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UKGPL Season 17 - Inter-League race - Spa-Francorchamps

This is the ninth Interleague race of our season 17, and will use the 67 carset.  Our guests will be our great rivals GBGPL, who have yet to defeat us after two races.  However the second of them last season was very close, with Hristo taking the win in front of Roo and Bosse.  GBGPL have been hampered by the temporary absence of their veteran organiser Pete, we all wish Pete the best for his recovery.  Hopefully one or more of the drivers who race in both leagues will be able to take over responsibility for this race.  Each league is to field nine cars, and there are no chassis handicaps, drivers will be racing to complete the distance and score points for their team.  The usual spirited greetings please, for our guests and friends from GBGPL!

Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom passworded 'Savage' by 19:55GMT, (You will need to set up a channel called ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
Igor and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password)

Server ukgpl6
IP address TBC

Race date = 28-06-2009
Track = Spa-Francorchamps
Time = 20:00GMT 21:00 BST
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 35 minutes.
Race length = 14 laps (complete 13 laps to score points as a finisher)

Chassis assignments will be posted here when finalised:
Lotus
Eagle
Ferrari
Brabham
Brabham
Honda
Cooper
Cooper
BRM

If you'd like to represent UKGPL in this race please post on the thread and advise what chassis you'd prefer.  Driver lists and points scored can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=209&theme=6)

I'm available for this one. Cooper is the preferred car  ;)

Ehm now I see that it isn't Silverstone but anyway I won't regret a Cooper.


Ciao

Spa, ooh lovely. I do a GPL race tomorrow there, so Eagle for me please! :D If you want me to, I can go for Lotus or BRM.

On holiday, so my place as Team Non-Finisher is up for grabs !! :D

If we are racing at Spa... just wonder why main title says Silverstone??  or are we trying to confuse the enemy?? ::)

Should real life not get in the way, I'll be able to make this one  :).

I'd expect to be in a position to go to bat for the club in this one.  Ferrari or BRM would be just fine, ty.

brab please .

john

I guess you know my preferences by now, or rather my dislikes ::), but whatever is available will do me.

Let's stick to what's proven and seems to have worked well in the recent races, guys. Just a few changes though.

Lotus - Sam
Eagle - Jethro
Ferrari - Doni
Brabham - Evil (your choice, Clive)
Brabham - John
Honda - Evil (your choice, Clive)
Cooper - Hristo
Cooper - Fulvio
BRM - <vacant>

Either a Brabham or Honda vacant too after Evil makes his choice. If some of the others wants a reallocation to what's left, let me know.

Looks like GBGPL are scraping a team together, Will Tway is trying to get them organised. It looks like they might be pulling in a couple of fast guys to beef up their chances, so we need to have some pace at the front of the field.

For the moment I will take the Honda as it is more likely to find a driver for the Brabham, but I'm happy to switch back if a wandering samurai turns up.

Ze plan is vorking , ze zink we are struggling to get our team in place.

Ve hav ze ringers in place , dont we ? ????

Oh hell that was a dream . :laugh:


Pete

A good race at Spa last night had me improving my PB in the Eagle by 2 hundredths of a second. There's a second or two to find at Spa at LEAST! ;D

I'm not worried, Clive. OK, the Honda is yours, that leaves a Brabham and a BRM up for grabs.

Fuel consumption runs this morning...and in turning only a handful of laps...has me in at a 3:21.78 as best.  Likely to improve slightly by race day.

Not to be picky, but can we put Hristo in the Honda? It's capable of 3:15s. I know, I saw that lap in question last night!

They have rebuilt him... welcome back Pete.

The bionic implants used to be removable from the Steve Austin dolls, so you could have them beaten up by your villain dolls, then put them back in and he would win.  Not that I had any dolls, but that's how I imagine it was supposed to work.  Steve Austin didn't impart any life lessons though, unlike Asterix, which taught us that men with large mustaches who drink magic potion become more dangerous.  What else is there to know?

Cooper is quite capable too. Besides, I tend to blow up engines of late, it's pointless being fast if you can't finish a race. And BTW, who is "we"? Were you referring to myself putting myself in the Honda? lol

Correctamundo, "we" as in the team, more responsibly team captain! ;D

For what its worth , I suspect that H will be almost down to 3:15's in the Cooper, and as he says at least the Cooper engine is ( just) a tad more reliable than the all conquering Waza turbine ::)

Duly noted. I'd best get practising then! 3:14s the target. ;D

I'd be happy with a 17, lol. We'll leave it to Jethro to battle the front, doing 13s (preferably  ::) ).

I was intending to do Clubmans, however if we're short, I'd be happy to take the other Brab or the Beast from Bourne.....only have to finish, right?
Geoff.

Finishing is a priority, yes, but it helps a lot not making mistakes, those usually lose you more time than lack of pace. I've got a good Brabham setup you may try, in fact here are my most recent Spa setups for all cars:

http://uploading.com/files/HV7N0FMW/Hristo_Spa_67_setups.zip.html

The name convention either specifies "q" or "r" for qualifying and race ("pickup" is same as "r"), while the number is the version - the higher the more recent. So in the cases where a Q setup is more recent than a R setup ( or vice versa), you may want to try use that. Just adapt the gearing, ride height and maybe tyre pressures from the other older version as I usually get those settings working well early on.

I don't have Q or R setups for some of the cars.

Good luck,

-=Hristo=-

Current line up:

Lotus - Sam
Eagle - Jethro
Ferrari - Doni
Brabham - Geoff Heard
Brabham - John
Honda - Evil
Cooper - Hristo
Cooper - Fulvio
BRM - <vacant>

Perhaps we could poach Tim, now that he's won Clubmans?  ;D. Anyone else fancy giving the interleagues a try?

Good idea, if Tim is up for driving a BRM, he can take it.

Event starts in 10 minutes guys. 14 laps, should be around 45 minutes or so. :)

Sorry guys, one of my kids has caused some problem with my 69 carset and it keeps crashing Gem......have to re-install it to get everything happening.........I can't believe this crap.....
Anyone want a used family?

Argh! I driving the race of my life and then the engine explodes! Qualified 3rd on the grid, hassled Bo for the first half of the lap and overtook him into 2nd place. I then followed Iestyn in the nitrous powered Ferrari but I just couldn't catch him. Something must have happened later on as I saw the flagman wave green flags and then the pitboard showed I was in the lead! Winning an interleague race would be quite special and onto the 8th lap, I felt comfortable with my pace.

Then the engine blew  :censored:. Just one of those things I guess, but it just had to happen when I was leading. I guess I thrashed the engine a little too hard when trying to catch Iestyn. Well, I'm off on holiday in a week and won't see a computer until the 11th. Unfortunately that means I'm going to miss Silverstone (again  ::)) in D1 but i'll be back a day before the next interleague. Hope we can get more points than GBGPL  ;D.

You can find server replay HERE (http://www.selted.com/fulvio/UKGPL_GBGPL_SPA.rar)

thanks

john

I was looking forward to this race, and would have had a really good front-running time for probably the front row of the grid, when on the last lap I was doing, James had an almighty screwup at Masta and I couldn't avoid him. I was going flat-chat and hell-bent on the pole time Iestyn was doing, but that moment ruined any chance I had of it. Annoyed didn't cover it. We were already late starting through various problems!

Started well, ended up 4th after lap 1 when I got past John, and tried getting up to the cars in front. When Iestyn dropped out, I was 3rd. When Sam dropped out, I was 3rd, having had a moment of my own at Masta, but the car kept running! 2 GBGPL cars in the first 2 places, but me 3rd, and UKGPL having many people in the top 10. Coming to the closing stages of the race, I was just looking to bring it home, however the gods of war were against me and the wireless was switched off at around half 10. So much for an early start. I was a lap and a half away from the chequered flag and just half a lap from being classified.

UKGPL won this one I think, although not many finished. Congratulations to GBGPL who claimed the first 2 places on the podium, and John and Hristo for 3rd and 4th.

I desperately need my own ADSL connection, I can't be doing with a shared connection, especially when parents have the ultimate say over its usage!

After waiting to see if Geoff would be able to sort out his problem and be able to join, I spotted James unable to make the start at Clubman's, so I got him to replace Geoff. By the time there were only 4 minutes left though and so I hoped I could do some qualifying lap.

It turned out the setup was very old (I might have packed 65 setups for Cooper, sorry if that's the case), but it didn't feel that bad. The engine exploded on my flying lap though, so I had to settle for starting at the back of the grid.

I had a good start and passed half the field during the first lap alone. Thanks of course to teammates that let me through! Although I wasn't taking risks, it was uncertain how the setup would fare in race conditions, but so far it went well. Until the end of lap 2 when it caught me out on acceleration on the exit of the final corner and so I spun around, dropping 2 places and 10 seconds.

Not that it mattered much because I couldn't keep the pace of the front runners and the cars ahead of me were mostly teammates, so it wasn't necessary to pass them, bar one GBGPL driver (who threw himself out the way on his own, tyvm  ;D ).

I spent the rest of the race trying to push hard but look after the engine. I was closing up on John and after the retirements of Sam and Jethro, I was up to 4th, but thought it's pointless to attack for 3rd and put both of us at risk, so backed off in the end. The car was overheating the tyres badly, especially front left, so taking Stavelot and some other right handers at proper speed was not possible. Despite that, the car was very consistent, even if slow.

A close call for the points, but we benefited from placing more cars at the finish and in the top 10, so grats UKGPL!

-=Hristo=-

I discoed after qualyfiying for Clubmans race and Hristo and Geoff were kind enough to let me loose in this race.

I hadn't practiced at Spa for about 6months and hadn't driven the Brabham for even longer. Embarrasingly I totally screwed up in qualifying and ruined JW;s fast lap. I cannot apologise enough for this, I thought that my gearing was wrong and that I could take the corner flat. Sorry.

In the race I was ultra cautious at the start, but still made a couple of places off the back of the grid. Was keeping pace with Evil Clive I think for about 4 laps before I ran wide and sheared off a wheel.

All in all, not my finest hour. At least I didn't smash anyone off in the race itself.

Jim

I wouldn't worry about that James  :)
I think this is only the 2nd or 3rd interleague I've actually finished  ;D

Happy with 6th, had zero practice before the event as I had thought I'd be racing at Silverstone in a Wazamobile.  ;D
Qualified ok (Hristo's setup - unchanged bar steering ratio, rear tyre pressures and fuel (obviously!)) and was quite happy with my time.
The race setup was again H's with only the above changes so I'm happy to have come 6th in a relatively 'slow' chassis with no preperation - Wish I'd had my whale as I think I could have been challenging for 5th at least in that :angel:

Apology accepted, please for the love of God make sure it doesn't happen again. I nearly committed Hari-Kiri with a spatula over that. If there's a guy on a quick lap behind you, and doesn't show any signs of slowing down a la in-lap, then he's on a quickie, and you should act accordingly. This is from personal experience, I've been caught out many times. ;)

Grats to John and Hristo for a solid drive into the top spots plus congratulations to all who finished from both teams....and commiserations to Sam and Jethro for bad luck.

We might have to review our invitations to GBGPL as they get closer to beating us every time we race ::) ::).lol  Well done Bosse and Roo for pacing themselves to the podium, another finisher in the top half of the field would have taken the victory.
 

But for me, that race was a  struggle of mammoth proportions!!

After the "server" problems and late start I did not have the heart to ask for an IP address. So I joined VROC knowing that my steering gremlin would be hyper active.

I gave up any chance of a good qually time and just tried to adjust the race setup to at least allow me some chance of completing the 14 laps ( a challenge in a Honda at the best of times!!)

From the start I was ultra cautious and allowed the field to spread out in front of me before increasing the pace on lap 2 or 3.


There was no point in trying to "race" anyone with "random directional compensatory mode" in operation as any hint of a slide could not be "corrected" with opp lock. Even with my cautious approach and laps around 3:22 at best I still manged about 4 or 5 major spins, but suffered only minor damage, which given the problems I already had, were as nothing.

Cars fell out and I followed the changing fortunes at the head of the field on Prib as different names appeared ..and went. GBGPL seemed to have a stranglehold on the top places and my display did not give me all of the "mid table" drivers, so I could not be sure exactly where each team was in terms of points.

I had a very steady Will Tway behind me and Fulvio and Tim some way in front. So there was no point in risking anything too adventurous to pass teammates so I concentrated on keeping going and saving the engine.

One of my rather spectacular spins through Stavelot allowed Will to get past and by the time I had got going again, and cooled the tyres so that you did not need Ray Bans just to look at them, he was some 10 secs up the road and still motoring.

I was now last and somewhat disheartened, but at least I had not been lapped ::) so I upped the rev limit of 10500 and checked oil temps down the straight to Masta for a few laps and was encouraged to see that everything was cool ;) and that Will was getting closer.

I finally caught Will with about 4 laps to go and thought that maybe I could "take" him. I was following him into Stavelot and maybe it was the tow or ?? , but the tail started to slide and with no way of correcting with opp lock, we performed another smoking spin, but miraculously avoided the hard metal bending stuff yet again.

Will was heard cheering and chuckling in the distance and I knew that barring a mistake from him or running out of fuel, that was it... last place .

I thought at the time that GBGPL had enough top places to be secure with a points win, but thought I would at least get the whale to the finish and score some points. Turns out that they might have been some very valuable points as we only just took the points victory.


Big thanks to GBGPL for a great race and apologies for the confusion at the start over servers.

Apologies to GBGPL for the confusion over servers, with all the UKGPL server masters present I assumed that the server had been sorted when the Clubmans server was started and the Clubmans drivers were asked to join.  Normally I'd hang around to make sure, but I needed to work on my setup for the Clubmans race.

However it was my responsibility, and I'm sorry that we weren't able to sort it out in time for all the drivers who were going to take part.  Many thanks to Fulvio for providing the race server.

Congratulations to Roo on the win, it was another very close race, and with the final score at 65-60 another finisher would have won the team race for GBGPL.

 

Firstly thank you UKGPL for the chance to have teses kind of events.

Big Grats to Roo and Bosse, for taking the top two spots.

I am sure that having taken a BRM for GBGPL s first Pro season this year and having manage to keep the same race engine all year without a blow up i was sure i could get the Cooper to the end.

How ever i did enjoy my 1 1/2 laps before it went pop with no warning .

I will try again after some 6 weeks of trying to get the new server i rent to run GPL it comes up with a message when i try to start GPL that a file is missing which is not even in my  system .

When i run VROC the remote server drop down is greyed out , anyone a clue as to why ?
I am talking the server screen not in VROC itself .

Thanks for the race .


Pete

Pete I think I had the same problem on T7 server. If your remote server hasn't a 3D GFX installed and so neither Directx you can't run GPL in D3D mode but only in Software mode. Software mode doesn't run on Remote Desktop and it shows an error like you said. You have to connect to the console screen via VNC or other remote control program to launch GPL in sw mode and it will run only at full screen.

I'm not sure to have understood the Vroc problem ??

Hope it helps.

Sorry to bump such an old thread but I'm hoping someone might be able to help me by posting this replay somehow, somewhere?
Would also like the Kyalami race from your season 16 if poss'?

I noticed I have a 'record' here already & don't have these races in my archive.

Cheers,
roo

Sorry Roo, the oldest replays I can find on UKGPL server are season 19

Maybe you can mail Fulvio Policardi for these replays as he hosted these races.

Hi Roo

I have a copy of the server replay for the Kyalami race (Season 16 Round 7) you can download it via this link: https://www.sendspace.com/file/jl7ny3 (https://www.sendspace.com/file/jl7ny3).

I'm sorry but I don't have a copy of this race (Season 17 Round 9).  As Cookie has said the best person to try would be Fulvio Policardi as he looked after the T7 server (I didn't have admin access to the T7 server). I'm not sure how much success you will have, the T7 website (http://www.team7racing.net/ (http://www.team7racing.net/)) hasn't been updated for some time.

Regards

Phil

Wow, I might *might* have a copy of this race replay lurking somewhere, I rarely dumped any older race replays so I'll have a dig this week and see whether I can find it.

Thanks Phil for the Kyalami race. I had a deeper dig around & found the spa race :D
If anyone wants it, let me me know.

cheers,
roo

Blast from the past :P. Interesting, could I get a copy, Roo?

I remember this race.. my last one here before Uni. I just got a PB in qual and have only a copy of that. Was a lonely race out front, so lonely in fact that I dropped it and cost GBGPL the win! A little less petulance, as Hristo notes, and I could have brought it home. I was young ::). 2 months later, I chopped another second off the Ferrari before my hiatus from GPL.

On that note, the last race of GBGPL/Groundhog is on Monday - 67s at Monza.. going out in true classic pickup style after 10+ years :) - Everyone is welcome!

sorry for slow response, I've not quite switched over from ghog ;)
here's a link for you :)
replay (http://www.filedropper.com/gbgplvukgplspa20090628rpy)