Title: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Legzy on June 29, 2009, 10:23:36 AM +0100 All members welcome.
Track: Leipzig 1967 (Download Here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_leipzig)) Time of Day Setting: 11:00 Start: Standing Practice: ~19:15 (60 mins) Qualifying: 20:15 (15 mins) Race: 20:30 (29 laps ~50 mins) Cars allowed: 914, GT40, DeTomaso Pantera 297kW, Ford Capri RS 231kW, Chevrolet Corvette 336kW (i.e. the slower versions) Server: UKGTL Classic Cup Password: see above (#post_event_password) Notes: (1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage. (2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7). (3) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=210;theme=5) (4) This race will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518). Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: phspok on July 27, 2009, 01:53:40 PM +0100 Cracking little track, well picked chaps.
Cars are to me quite well matched. I assumed the GT40 would romp away, and the 914 would be useless But not so, my 914, GT40, and Brown Capri times are almost identical in 1:43 range Managed a high 1:42 in GT40 once, could have done the same in Capri or 914 with the same luck. Panty and Vette for me are a sec or more slower. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: spanner on July 27, 2009, 09:16:34 PM +0100 Wanted to give it a go but the server isn't up, nor is the UKGTR one? PnG seems ok tho.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Legzy on July 28, 2009, 11:55:56 PM +0100 Just did a handful of laps & got a 1:44 in the spangly Vette.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Ade on July 29, 2009, 12:19:06 AM +0100 :stupid: 1:42.093 in the brown Capri.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: pribeiro on July 29, 2009, 10:40:06 AM +0100 1.41 with the Corvette
1.42 high with the Pantera I wish I can race tomorrow with a new router and everything fixed. :-\ Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: mr_oily on July 29, 2009, 07:55:04 PM +0100 Slow down you F-f-f-flounderers! Good luck PR - really hope you can make this one.
Jumping on in a bit if anyone's about. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Legzy on July 29, 2009, 08:13:07 PM +0100 Had some good fun tonight chaps. Managed to get my time down to 1:42 in a couple of the cars too. 8)
p.s. I've posted a poll for all our current & potential P&G drivers to let us know how you want 'UKPnG Season One' to continue... Here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6620.0) The poll closes on Friday afternoon. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: pribeiro on July 30, 2009, 09:47:08 AM +0100 Let me update my internet issues.
Yesterday, I finally bought a new router, after a 1 hour spent in the shop chosing one. ::) Belkin N Wireless Modem Router (http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/4074-FUL1F5D863101.jpg) A friend of mine, helped me to configurate it. But....despite my average connection speed went from 54mps on the old Lynksis to 150mps on the new Belkin, they say that can go untill 300mps... which made me happy, I can't get wireless feature working. Better, I can make wireless working, if I don't lock the line to avoid external attack. Which means that if I let the line open, I can surf with wireless. As you all know, when I race online, I use a cable for more stable connection, but when I'm not racing, I don't want a cable on the flor (two with my daughter's one). Any of you has or had this very same router and help me to setup it well, please? The ISP provider don't help me, because they only help who have their modem. At least, last night I was surfing well (and with even more speed) :) which means that if this evening evenything run well, I will join you at Leipzig. Thanks in advance. P.S. Forgot to say that, when I have the line locked while wireless, I get the info: "internet connection limited/inexistent/absent" Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Tibernius on July 30, 2009, 11:00:46 AM +0100 What I'd do is to temporarily disable the wireless for the race then re-enable it afterwards.
I used to have one of the Belkin 54G routers but never password-protected it. Have you tried contacting Belkin? Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: pribeiro on July 30, 2009, 11:17:02 AM +0100 I will try to contact Belkin later Tib. Unfortunately their help in portuguese is allowed
only by mail. ::) Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Ade on July 30, 2009, 12:19:51 PM +0100 PR if you type in 192.168.2.1 ( you don't need the www or the http bit it should let you into the online router setup, all the setting you need are there.
There's also a users manual on the installation cd. If you need help just pm me Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Blunder on July 30, 2009, 01:18:21 PM +0100 Sorry Tony / folks!
Busy photographing 7 ! yes 7 gorgeous young ladies in all sorts of different hair and make up tonight so gonna miss this one! ;D Tough assignment! ;D M. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: mr_oily on July 30, 2009, 01:25:39 PM +0100 Great stuff PR - looks like it should do the job...it'll probably supply the whole neighbourhood looking at that array of antennae!
7 gorgeous young ladies in all sorts of different hair and make up No Oldies in attendance tonight at all then? You'll all be missed but I'm sure you'll look fabulous darlings :-* Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: phspok on July 30, 2009, 02:34:01 PM +0100 These photos will of course be available for club members to view at www.??????.com
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Phil Gilliland on July 30, 2009, 03:01:22 PM +0100 Busy photographing 7 ! yes 7 gorgeous young ladies in all sorts of different hair and make up tonight so gonna miss this one! ;D You dirty old man. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: pribeiro on July 30, 2009, 03:18:34 PM +0100 @ Ade: thanks for your help offering Ade, I will PM you if things goes wrong then. :)
@ Blunder: you lucky.... :D @ mr_oily: in fact they say that the wireless range is huge. That is why I'm affraid of setting wireless without security line. :P Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: LigelC on July 30, 2009, 04:27:39 PM +0100 The race detail post states "Ford Capri RS 231kW" (which I think is the 310HP version) - does this mean I cannot drive the Team Shark Capri this evening? There seems to be only one 231kW version in the car list namely #872. Shame you can't make it tonight Bill as Legzy and Tony have come up with a cracking circuit again. Why don't you get someone in to do the work then you can enjoy your retirement. Busy photographing 7 ! yes 7 gorgeous young ladies in all sorts of different hair and make up tonight so gonna miss this one! ;D Tough assignment! ;D M. Now that's a really understandable reason for not turning up - will they really only be in "Hair" and "Makeup" talk about 'lucky bugger' :eek: :tt1: :tt1: :tt1: Laurie Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Legzy on July 30, 2009, 05:23:50 PM +0100 The race detail post states "Ford Capri RS 231kW" (which I think is the 310HP version) - does this mean I cannot drive the Team Shark Capri this evening? There seems to be only one 231kW version in the car list namely #872. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: BillThomas on July 30, 2009, 08:02:47 PM +0100 Shame you can't make it tonight Bill as Legzy and Tony have come up with a cracking circuit again. Why don't you get someone in to do the work then you can enjoy your retirement. Laurie I've already opted out of lots of fiddly or standing still jobs - decorating, upgrading my computer myself, have lost lots of dexterity. My wife likes her garden and I do the donkey work, cut the lawn etc, I then get positive support for my racing particularly latest equipment eg G25. All about brownie points Laurie. Bill Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: pribeiro on July 30, 2009, 09:11:48 PM +0100 Report tomorrow how I turned a 1st place with a 4 seconds lead into a killed engine.... ::)
I'm happy for having internet again, after 2 weeks of madness without it. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: baracus250gt on July 30, 2009, 09:13:19 PM +0100 Great track... shame about the driver. I properly haddocked it!
Great last second Q lap from Ade to snatch pole!! Not sure what happened whilst crossing the line on the first lap though! Was following close behind Steve H in the lead and his car stopped dead so I had an almighty smash. Next lap I clipped the kerb on the inside of the 2nd part of that fast chicane and spun around. Lap after that I clipped a lamppost and whilst checking in my mirror to see if I had a puncture I smacked another one full on, killing my engine! I think my steering was damaged from the NetGlitch but not sure - was just getting into the swing of things!! Might have been the 103 litres of fuel! It's really hard to see the apexes and kerbs when following someone closely and one slight miss of a turn in or braking point ends in disaster here more so than Monaco even as the speeds are higher at the dangerous parts! It's like you have to really attack those chicanes otherwise you would lose way too much time, but there's a huge risk. Kind of like a whole lap of the chicane at the top of Imola's hill (after Aqua Minerale)!!! Nice track though, reminded me of Enna Pergusa in GTR. Very satisfying when it goes right! Can't wait to see how many "survivors" there are - but you all lasted longer than me so grats!! Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Steve Holmes on July 30, 2009, 09:22:27 PM +0100 Yeah, that end of first lap just ruined my first time back behind the wheel since, err, whenever I last had a disastrous UKGTL race, lol.
Came round in 1st, nice little power drift onto the s/f finish straight, not touching the kerb, and the rear of my car is launched up in the air for no reason. Typical some glitch happens when you're leading - Bara may well have been a touch quicker but with the top speed advantage I wasn't going give that lead away. Kind of lost concentration and also overcooked the tyres pushing too hard back up the field and after one too many crashes gave up. Will maybe try GTL again sometime soon, it was pleasurable mostly. Maybe I sorta miss simracing. :-\ :) Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Simon Gymer on July 30, 2009, 09:48:20 PM +0100 Haven't played GTL in a VERY long time (other than figure of 8 sillyness).
Downloaded the track just before joining and no idea where any of the corners were, but after two qualifying sessions (thanks for the extra one, helped me be ready for the race!) I was up to speed. Was up to 4th in two laps and then not too long before 2nd place and then when Paulo crashed I inherited the lead. What on earth!? Ade caught me up after 10 laps or so and sat behind me till I finally clipped one of those sodding curbs. Had a nightmare lap after that and dropped down to 4th. Caught up to Phil only to ram straight into a lamp-post! Then caught him up again with a few laps to go, overtook him with my straight line speed advantage in the GT40 and held onto 3rd place for an amazing result. That track reminds me of Enna. You have to have balls of steel and be very good at aiming for the gap. LOL. That will undoubtedly be my best result of this season (in fact that's one of my best ever GTL finishes full stop). See you next time. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 30, 2009, 09:49:44 PM +0100 Nice to have you with us Boss
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: LigelC on July 30, 2009, 09:58:07 PM +0100 This is a great little track for racing - except for the LAMP POSTS which I managed to clobber and wreck the car when trying to get out of someones way. Prior to that I had a very enjoyable drive.
Watched the rest of the race from the stand: 1 Great drive by Ade, he looked as if he was on rails :notworthy: 2 Great dice between Simon and Phill - lost count of the number of laps it lasted :thumbup2: 3 Another good battle between Laslow and Legzey :thumbup2: Thanks for the entertainment. Congratulations to the podium - Ade, API and Simon and to all those who managed to finish :clap: :clap: (just sorry I couldn't manage it my self-still maybe next time) Laurie Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: phspok on July 30, 2009, 10:00:04 PM +0100 reat fun race though rather frustrating :sweatdrop:
Got fastest lap in prac, cool, started qual, sound went wonky on and off in one side stopped car reseated all the ancient leads, ahh now it's ok screwed up 1st run trying to hard, got a banker in 4th , not bad, was on a stormer... 1 sec quicker before the last section, came round final turn I CAN SEE POLEEEEEE....thud "Next session" Grrr, ah well 4th is fine, bit of good natured tussling, but no contact I saw, passed PR on the drag down though the park, Barra and Steve are flying through the air as we round the final turn... woohoo I'm now in the lead, drove carefull, then as we are approaching the fast chicane I'm thinkin "Hmm cool, PR's tinter seems to be holding up... touch a kerb, spin, have to sit there till everybody (I could see) had passed, got going, caught people up, sat behind Alex for a while went sideways up a kerb trying to avoid contact under braking got going again.... caught spanner eventually, who lost it, people dropped out , ended 7th. But I think I got fastest race lap as consolation prize :-\ Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Legzy on July 30, 2009, 10:14:24 PM +0100 Results & Replay in usual places.
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: pribeiro on July 31, 2009, 09:39:39 AM +0100 The only time I drove the 914, I did two laps in the 1.43. Done before 1.41 and 1.42
with the Vette and Pantera. Although a bit slower, I thought that it could be a better choice for me to pick the Porsche, because of the less weight and for being more smoth on those chicanes and less tire eater. I was surprised when for a few minutes I got the pole :o with a 1.41 low after some tweak with the power & coat and both antiroll bar settings. However ADE did an excellent job puting the 2600 Capri in the pole and Baracus and Steve grabbing the next places. Just before starting, I was thinking that the starting line could be more to the front, right before first corner ;D because my 4th place would be in very danger with all the super powered cars around me. :P I did a very good start and after first corner, I realised that I was in 3rd :yes: for two laps things were hard but very enjoyable (after 2 weeks without racing online). Then, Baracus and Steve crashed and I got the lead. :w00t: With nobody in front of me, I could focus on my own driving despite Simon (was nice to see you again racing with us) :) sometimes close the gap, floating between 2 and 4 seconds. So, at lap 10 when the gap to Simon were right on the 4 seconds, I misjudged the exit to the woods section and hit the lamp post...or it was a tree?...whatever... :eek: spun and my engine went down for good. :hammer: I was so happy to be back and I was with so much hope to give my first win to Prodigy team.... well, we must wait for another day. :whistling: Congrats to the fantastic driving and win ADE and to podium. Excellent car choice, thanks for providing us to drive the less choosen cars. ;) Cheers Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Legzy on July 31, 2009, 10:39:23 AM +0100 Well I'm really pleased.
From what I saw, the driving on the first lap was very well suited to this tricky track. Only Tibs I believe was unlucky enough to have 'Game over' on lap one. Not sure of the circumstances obviously. I really like that track, it's like a high speed street circuit that's very unforgiving of mistakes & offers some very different experiences to any other tracks I recall using. Was great to see returns to GTL from Simon & especially Steve who I managed to swap positions with a few times (even if it was just because you were trying to keep control of all the Vettes horses! ;)) That's also probably the most I've enjoyed a GTL event since Tony's Lakeside event, having not been able to get myself totally into the races recently. Maybe it was the added danger that helped my concentration :-\ I basically spent the whole race with in reach of team mate Lazlow, never more then a couple of seconds ahead or behind. It was funny that mid race, he'd managed to open up what was probably the biggest gap we had, my front tyres were going off badly & then suddenly my car was a dream to drive & for about four laps in a row I set new fastest laps, catching & taking Lazlow in the process ;D, only to stuff up the 2nd chicane with about a lap & a half to go, handing him back the position ::) :-[ ;) Well done to all those that survived, unlucky to those that didn't. See you in the Netherlands next week 8) P.S. Great Team Oldie result last night too! Despite 50% of the team being AWOL, we managed three drivers in the top six & closed that gap at the top to the Green Ladies considerably! :-* Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Legzy on July 31, 2009, 11:01:24 AM +0100 Lapchart (http://uk.geocities.com/bcl03z/GTLlapCharts/GTL/Leipzig67_30-07-09/index.html)
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Tibernius on July 31, 2009, 11:27:41 AM +0100 From what I saw, the driving on the first lap was very well suited to this tricky track. Only Tibs I believe was unlucky enough to have 'Game over' on lap one. Not sure of the circumstances obviously. I was too busy watching Ade's car and missed my braking point into one of the chicanes, hit one of the bails, spun across the track and then hit Spanner. :-[ Destroyed my rear suspension in the process. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Geoffers on July 31, 2009, 11:28:12 AM +0100 :jumpjoy: After a disco, CTDs trying to join & a blown engine in the first 3 races, I finally got a finish.
Very tricky track this, so I tried hard to drive conservatively, but still got caught out 3 times when the red mist took over & I clipped those damn kerbs. Ran 6th early on until I span at the second chicane. After recovering, chased the Lazlow/Legzy/Steve battle for several laps mid race & just got up to Legzy when the second chicane got me again. Finally I was having to push hard near the end as Matt was catching me & clipped the kerb at T2 & spun again. So came in 8th of the 10 finishers. Congrats to teammate Ade on a great drive & also to API & Simon. :clap: Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: jimmer on July 31, 2009, 12:03:20 PM +0100 due to other commitments i don't get to race very often but that was a GREAT TRACK!!! ;D what fun and fast :o.Good track and car combo. thanks admins keep up the good work :clap:
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: mr_oily on July 31, 2009, 12:39:33 PM +0100 Fantastic track, GT40 handling sweetly, a good start, good race pace, nice bit of pressure on Geoffers and co then....a lamp post. Blast!
Knew this would be a game of survival but this track teases ya to keep pushing...in the end I just didn't have the talent, or the self control :( Well done Ade - you really deserved that one, awesome pace in the Capri and it's still mystifying me now how you were so damn far ahead LOL Nice to see ya back Steve/ Simon - not lost it either of you I see! we managed three drivers in the top six & closed that gap at the top to the Green Ladies considerably! :-* Enjoy it while it lasts. Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Ade on July 31, 2009, 01:17:12 PM +0100 Love the track :o 8) found my setup from Goodwood worked well, apart from throwing the brakes forward to 65 (seemed to help with braking through the corners (especially on the flagstones on the S/F straight) managed to pip pole in the dieing minutes of qualifying ;D
Made my usual crummy start (felt like i was flicking flagstones out of the back) found my self down in 6th. After folk in front had succumbed to the power of kerbs, straw bails and lamp posts ;) i chased Simon in his GT40, he finally caught a kerb with those big fat wheels and spun it round :o played it safe for the rest of the race holding a 20 second lead on API slowly building it to 30 seconds by the end :o :clap: Well done all the finishers, bad luck to all the crashers ;D Cheers Ade Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Jeffrey on July 31, 2009, 01:28:15 PM +0100 Nice to see 4 different cars make up the top 4 :)
Title: Re: UKGTL Season 8 GT Classics Cup - Leipzig - Jul 30 Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 31, 2009, 07:20:00 PM +0100 Great track, mostly good driving manners and I thouroughly enjoyed that. Must say a quick "Thank you Sir" to LigelC who kindly gave me a pass. I tried to flash my lights to acknowledge your good deed but they were as trashed as the rest of my poor car.
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