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Title: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 03, 2009, 04:20:56 PM +0100
A non-championship race to check the Season 10 car pack. All members welcome.
The event will start at 9pm UK time, to fit in between Top Gear and the Indy Car Series and the MotoGP at 10.

Practice 1:21:00(10 mins)
Qual 2:21:10(5 mins)
Race:21:15(40 minutes)note: no warmup

Cars allowed: Any car from the v2.10.0.0 pack (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics))
It would be good to have some members in the Marcos and some in the Gallardo in particular.
Weather: dry
Track: UKGTR Donington National (download as part of the UKGTR Track Pack v1.2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_trackpack))
In-Game Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stops.

Server: UKGTR Season 10
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
  • Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
  • You will not be able to join the server without v2.10.0.0 of the UKGTR car pack (see download link above).
    You will not see skins without the optional skin packs.
  • Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
  • Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - T.B.C. - Jul 5
Post by: Legzy on July 03, 2009, 04:31:03 PM +0100
Sadly I can't make it, so Spa or Donnington get my vote. ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - T.B.C. - Jul 5
Post by: Tibernius on July 03, 2009, 10:26:07 PM +0100
Sadly I can't make it, so Spa or Donnington get my vote. ;) ;) ;)

Well I can make it, so Spa or Donington get my vote. ;D That or Oulton Park. ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - T.B.C. - Jul 5
Post by: Truetom on July 03, 2009, 10:29:59 PM +0100
How about Mugello in the light rain. We never get to use it anymore. :no:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 04, 2009, 02:45:15 PM +0100
Details posted; we'll use a standard track for this test, but I will slip Mugello into the Season 10 schedule just for you TT. :winkiss:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: ginsters sponsored on July 04, 2009, 03:11:13 PM +0100
I'll try and make it. Can I ask whats been changed in Gallardo?  :)

And Mugello is a must, ta.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 04, 2009, 03:29:02 PM +0100
I'll try and make it. Can I ask whats been changed in Gallardo?  :)

There are notes in the readme (also shown during installation) about what's changed. There are no major changes to any car.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Truetom on July 04, 2009, 04:04:35 PM +0100
Details posted; we'll use a standard track for this test, but I will slip Mugello into the Season 10 schedule just for you TT. :winkiss:

Thanks!  :)  Love the track.  8)

I'll try the Gallardo here - I made enough laps with the Marcos on this track...  :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Jimmie on July 05, 2009, 11:48:00 AM +0100
 :o no time left for new skins?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Tibernius on July 05, 2009, 12:23:34 PM +0100
Has the GT2 Gallardo been updated? Or is there one in the GT1 class that has been?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 05, 2009, 02:07:30 PM +0100
:o no time left for new skins?

I asked if anyone was doing some and everybody said no.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 05, 2009, 02:08:08 PM +0100
Has the GT2 Gallardo been updated? Or is there one in the GT1 class that has been?

Huh? Why don't you download the new pack and read the readme?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Jimmie on July 05, 2009, 04:06:35 PM +0100
:o no time left for new skins?

I asked if anyone was doing some and everybody said no.

Guess I read over that somewhere, did find a message that you're assuming nobody is making new ones ;)

Anyway I was working on them with a low tempo since it's kind of a boring job to do :D
But if I'm the only one making some new skins, then it ain't fair to delay your work on the new season.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: H@L9000 on July 05, 2009, 08:48:34 PM +0100
Could not make the race.

Feeling ill from too much beer last night.  :(

Sorry guys.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: picnic on July 05, 2009, 08:58:37 PM +0100
We haven't started yet, you've got 1 min to get better  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: H@L9000 on July 05, 2009, 09:04:23 PM +0100
LOL.

The only thing that could get me race ready in that time is more beer. Hair of the dog is not a good prospect at the moment. :nuke:

Enjoy the race all. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Jorgen Wahlby on July 05, 2009, 09:07:40 PM +0100
Verdamnt... I will not be able to download the pack in time for the race. I Still have 45% left.. :'(

Well well.. there will be another time  :angel:




Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: ginsters sponsored on July 05, 2009, 10:08:03 PM +0100
Took the GTC Fezza, which is fun, to gauge if GTC vs GT2 would be good for me and there was no way I could keep up them. Waited for Lazlow after his s/g and ran outta fuel with 1 to go :) Not sure if its just that track but, the beamer has a fair advantage over the Fezza which is a shame.

Roll on S10 :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: picnic on July 05, 2009, 10:20:51 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090705%20U10/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 05, 2009, 10:37:33 PM +0100
Didn't choose a car until 5 minutes before the race - decided to give the C6-R a go as I had a C5-R setup I could graft onto it. Couldn't really work the fronts properly but thanks to Picnic starting from the back it was just good enough for 3rd ahead of him, despite running off repeatedly in the opening laps with no idea what the car would be like on cold tyres, and later being too busy trying to adjust the brake balance and flash a "thank you" to a lapped car to actually notice the braking point for Goddards and running smack into the tyres. :o ::)

TT was very quick in the Gallardo - so quick, I suspect him of cheating in some way. Such as practicing. :laugh: :P

Not sure if its just that track but, the beamer has a fair advantage over the Fezza which is a shame.

Dono is definitely a power track - BMW loses out on fuel and tyre wear in Endurance.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Truetom on July 05, 2009, 10:50:57 PM +0100
TT was very quick in the Gallardo - so quick, I suspect him of cheating in some way. Such as practicing. :laugh: :P

Lol, I did make some 30+ laps, though I got the setup about right in the last 5. Gallardo is rear happy and I had to set the front quite rigid or I was spinning the whole time. ::)  Also, the softs were ok, had tyre wear on front left just above 20. Fuel usage was about 1,80 l / lap. :)  How was Marcos, Pete?  :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: picnic on July 05, 2009, 11:37:16 PM +0100
How was Marcos, Pete?

Being totally inept at setups I used the default with minor ratio changes to the gears. I generally found it fun, but I really wasn't pushing the tyres! Only had 6-7 wear on the rear meds after forty mins racing, tyre temps were almost always stuck in the 60° range.

When I first joined Dave asked on TeamSpeak if I'd be happy to try the Marcos, I said why not but it then turned out someone else had one so I switched to the TVR only for that person to change. So I returned to the Marcos and only just got back on the server, well qual was only 5 mins. All in all I had 5 laps practice in the car before the race and no qual time meant I spent the first few laps getting passed the GT2/GTC boys. I did my quickest lap 3 from the end, lap 35, so I guess there was room for improvement ;) With my 2nd division pace the Marcos wasn't that difficult. I suspect though if I was capable of pushing it closer to it's envelop it spit me off left, right and centre  :o

Actually this car has promise, my fastest lap being a second slower than Jose's, I wouldn't usually expect to be that close! Mind you it is only a short lap  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: phspok on July 06, 2009, 10:24:39 AM +0100
Chortle
I took Marcos, but was struggling to see the left kerbs, and got bored with running over the grass
trying to judge where the edges were. So burned it's plywood, and went for the Moggy.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Josè Arrogantio on July 06, 2009, 01:15:05 PM +0100
MC12
Laps of practice – about 100
Setup – Quite refined, don’t think I could make it better.
Best Eclectic Time – 1:02.271

LM600
Laps of practice – about 50
Setup – Not very refined, changed ride height, diffs and cooling ducts only.
Best Eclectic Time – 1:02.768

The MC12 seems less stable than the Marcos; it is a lot harder to save a slide in the MC12 and the Marcos is better over the kerbs.
Tyre wear was about the same in both cars despite the Marcos running on Softs and the MC12 on Meds. The LM600 could probably be on the pace of the MC12 with a bit more setup work. The lack of visibility is not such a big problem once you get in to a rhythm.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 06, 2009, 06:46:47 PM +0100
Just watching the replay, I'd forgotten about the moment on the second to last or so lap when Pete and I caught Matt Rowe and Fish Tail and we threaded out way through down Schwantz and into McLeans - great driving guys and Matt, you were unlucky to end up on the grass. :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 skin test - Donington National - Jul 5
Post by: Mcfids on July 06, 2009, 06:50:57 PM +0100
Chose the Gallardo which I found to be a lot less erratic after the physic pack tweaks, although as TT said its a bit rear happy. I had a quick mess about with the default setup to sort out wing and gear ratios but that's all I had time for. It's a lot of fun to drive now IMO but it's not very forgiving when pushed - coppice was especially annoying as I spun for the nth time :)

and later being too busy trying to adjust the brake balance and flash a "thank you" to a lapped car to actually notice the braking point for Goddards and running smack into the tyres. :o ::)


That was me you were lapping and I remember thinking at the time 'Jeez, DG's got some serious anchors to start braking at that point...'    ;D