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Title: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 13, 2009, 07:47:46 AM +0100
All members welcome.

Practice 1:20:15(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:25(20 mins)
Race:20:45(40 minutes)note: no warmup

Cars allowed: any Lotus from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.10.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics).
Weather: Fixed, seeded from real-world conditions at the start of the event (note to server starter - set changeability to zero).
Track: Mugello v1.1.1.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_mugello)
Race Start Time: 14:00.
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stop is required.

Server: UKGTR Lotus
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=217;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(5) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 20, 2009, 07:12:28 AM +0100
I best do some practice for this, it's been ages since I've driven Mugello!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Truetom on July 20, 2009, 09:40:14 AM +0100
I hope to have a session this evening. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: goldtop on July 20, 2009, 09:53:20 AM +0100
I've had a few laps here last week, but need more pracci. I'll be here tonight in the Exige trying to get it under 2 mins.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: linco24 on July 20, 2009, 11:16:09 AM +0100
Is this championship open? I'd like to give it a go.

Thanks

Colin


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 20, 2009, 11:19:05 AM +0100
Is this championship open? I'd like to give it a go.

Very much so - the more the merrier!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 20, 2009, 07:37:38 PM +0100
1:54.5 best so far in the Exige but I was half a second up on that at one point before fluffing it. Front tyre temps are an issue and a slight lapse of concentration can yield rampant oversteer on the crested corners too. :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Ade on July 20, 2009, 10:37:30 PM +0100
After a bit of practice in the Exige I'm down to 1:52.717 on medium tyres and race fuel.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: goldtop on July 20, 2009, 10:54:20 PM +0100
Like the track and the Exige, but struggling to get anywhere near pace or consistency. Best time 1:58.486 race trim. I'll try to squeeze another hour of pracci before the race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Legzy on July 20, 2009, 11:51:45 PM +0100
1:55.1 in the Elise, but was up by 0.4 a couple of times & blew it pushing too hard.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Mark J on July 21, 2009, 04:49:29 PM +0100
hopefully will join you all this eve for this. Only ran about 6 laps so far with a 1:57 in the Elise with full race fuel and meds. Fun little cars around here though surprised how much understeer they have.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Legzy on July 21, 2009, 05:06:18 PM +0100
Fun little cars around here though surprised how much understeer they have.
Yeah, think I had my rear wing down to about 3 in the end! lol


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Busi on July 21, 2009, 05:16:45 PM +0100
I've tried Mugello for the first time in GTR2 today. Looks good but I need more practice. Hope I can be a little competitive tonight ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: spanner on July 21, 2009, 06:22:03 PM +0100
Probably wont be on later, dont enjoy the combination so will give it a miss.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: linco24 on July 21, 2009, 06:33:15 PM +0100
I'm burning my tyres out after 2 laps ???

Adjusted pressures, wing, and tyre compound, same results. Up into 130deg across the rears and 115's on the fronts


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Legzy on July 21, 2009, 07:21:01 PM +0100
I'm burning my tyres out after 2 laps ???

Adjusted pressures, wing, and tyre compound, same results. Up into 130deg across the rears and 115's on the fronts
I was burning up softs like you, but could almost get away with meds. You must be going too fast, it's not like it's a race you know  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: picnic on July 21, 2009, 09:09:17 PM +0100
Sorry to all for the mayhem I caused, why the car felt so totally different from Q2 to race is anyone's guess but I had no control of my rear end in the slow corners. Rear tyre temps were stupidly high whereas they were fine during Q2 when I was consistently lapping 1-2 secs quicker.

After 2 woeful performances I won't be bothering again, sorry.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Mark J on July 21, 2009, 09:10:11 PM +0100
Bugger was enjoying that...then Disco Stu kicked in, race over  :'(

Great track Mugello, love it.  8) The little feisty lotus' were great fun on it too. Shame the Exiges seemed to have a second over them on a lap as it made a race of two halves.

Not had a disco mid race for absolute yonks. Think my cpu/gxf card was a little too hot from several hours of intensive gfx work in Rise of flight beforehand  :-\

Good fun whilst it lasted, was running 9th i think at time of disco.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Tibernius on July 21, 2009, 09:14:42 PM +0100
Decided to retire rather than risk hitting someone...back end went for no apparent reason halfway through the last chicane.

One CTD in qually (froze, came back again with all of the menus corrupted) and another when I exited the race (graphics card driver had stopped responding, had to restart the PC). That's 3 in a week now. Don't think I'll bother getting an nVidia graphics card again.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Legzy on July 21, 2009, 09:21:12 PM +0100
Joined the server but didn't know if I'd be able to race or not till the 2min count down started. Loaded up a setup (the wrong one) & think I was last to join the grid.

Felt like I was quicker through most of the track then some of the guys just in front but like Picnic, my rear end was all over the place for some reason & I span it three times in four laps I think. :-\

Was running 2nd last & about to put a move on Smokey when my network connection died. Bummer, but I suppose at least I got a few laps in  :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Josè Arrogantio on July 21, 2009, 09:29:03 PM +0100
Was fighting for first with ade when the electric cut out for about a tenth of a second, very strange.  :o :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: JPS on July 21, 2009, 09:36:46 PM +0100
Great Formula...great racing..enough said 8)

This circuit just waits for you to make a mistake, and I had mine a long with the drivers around me..very pleased with 7th, all things considered :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: goldtop on July 21, 2009, 09:48:48 PM +0100
Went of early while trying to take advantage of a mistake by MJs tail happy Lotus. Then had a bigger off when I selected 1st instead of 2nd going into a corner to put me last. Pushed hard and caught Smokey who let me past down the straight - cheers mate :) and then went to work on catching Matt.

Couple of discos in front of me( I saw Legzy energising) and Matt went off on the last corner allowing me to get closer. Had a nice little scrap with Matt and almost had him when he ran slightly wide on the penultimate lap. Next time mate ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: phspok on July 21, 2009, 09:53:28 PM +0100
That was a good bit o'fun. Never driven at Mugello before, never raced a lotus before
I normally avoid cars with bags of cement in the back. made a very tame easy listening
setup, was off the pace, but oddly my best qual lap was when I did a few practice
laps with race setup at the end of qual  :o
low fuel and softs were not good for me apparently  ;)
Was almost keeping MJ in sight when he had "electrical problems" and sat quivering on the track
had some fun trying to keep Dave behind, had a misunderstanding in the 2nd to last with Laz
odd, Les Paul did the same thing near the end of the race, must be my crappy wide line there
Took a conservative not too loose setup, thinking rears would go off, but actually was other way round
fronts got very slidey, and i went off a couple of times misjudgin braking. took 27 secs to get back
on the track once, as the grass seemed to have a turntable on it, and I did donuts one way then t'other
ANyroad up, grat to Ade. Chortle, when you lapped me one from end, I assumed you woudl go steaming
past up the straight! but err why is he crawling past so slowly  ;D



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Michael Sunny on July 21, 2009, 09:54:29 PM +0100
Hi to all!

I was so enjoing this race. I like to drive Lotus and Mugello is a great track.
I'm back after a while and I hope I will make time to race in the Lotus cup.

Hope you will not punish me for missunderstanding in warming lap :angel:.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: lazlow on July 21, 2009, 09:55:14 PM +0100
Eventfull race to say the least...I'm feeling a bit dizzy after all my spins  :laugh:
Fantastic track, and a fantastic Exige (once I found a setup!!)
Sorry for the collision Matt...I hope I didn't disrupt your race to much.

Laters
Laz

p.s. well done Ade on the win  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: phspok on July 21, 2009, 10:06:50 PM +0100
No Biggie Lazlow. was a bit miffed at MJ then being out of reach, but he evaporated soon after anyway
One thing: In praccy earlier my pc had a Graphics driver prob which "WIndows has found a solution to"
update driver it said, doesn't it always... Maybe I will anyway.
The screen hung for about 5 secs then the game continued as if nothing had happened, "fault tolerant PC"
This I approve of  8)
Card is Nvdia 8800GT under Vista X64



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: picnic on July 21, 2009, 10:53:46 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090721%20U10LC/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Busi on July 22, 2009, 12:37:54 AM +0100
Great fight for Elise victory! Started at the front but I braked too late in T1, TT went past.

A first little fight with a couple of attempts in the main straight, but I couldn't make the move, either brake too late and TT retook the place or brake a bit too early and he kept the place. I went off again, had to catch up again, then I finally did it after lots of action :D well done podiums


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Truetom on July 22, 2009, 05:26:05 AM +0100
1 laps too many. ;)  Lots of action and fair driving, swapping places, different lines and all the things that matter. ;D F1 could something. ;D
Valencia avenged?  :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 22, 2009, 07:24:31 AM +0100
Another "almost" race although I actually did enoy it. :laugh:

Couldn't get a handle on the rear end in practice and qually and ended up near the tail of the field. Car was a nightmare on cold tyres and the back just slithered away from me during the pace lap, putting me virtually to the back of the field. The good news was that the spin turned out to be an excellent way to warm the tyres, and pretty soon I was fighting my way back up the order.

Once into the race the car was transformed - it's a complete mystery to me why it handled so much better in the race but it really was a lot nicer to drive, with even tyre wear and temperatures.

It was almost a stunning drive up to 6th place, ahead of JPS and Lazlow. Almost, that is, but not quite - on the final lap I blinked at the wrong moment braking for turn 1 and, yep, round she went, into the kitty litter :o and letting Lazlow, and worse still my nemesis JPS, past. ::)

Pity about all the CTDs and discos - by the sound of it half the field need to sort the cooling out on their graphics cards! :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Ade on July 22, 2009, 12:18:07 PM +0100
Well chuffed with my first GTR2 win :clap: was getting worried in qualifying when i got into the 1:51s and found myself in pole position  :o thanks to Jose for beating my time  and saving me the embarrassment of leading what would have been my first formation lap (would have only made a mess of it) :D Had to give Jose a bit of space until i could work out a good place to get past ( you were getting a bit out of shape round the last bend) when i gave you a nudge up the backside (hope there was no damage done) got a bit of a run on him down the S/F straight and out braked him into the 1st corner, could only keep a half second lead on him until i saw him go off at the last bend :( It was then a case of keeping a good 20 second gap to  second place to give my tyres a bit of a rest.

Chortle, when you lapped me one from end, I assumed you woudl go steaming
past up the straight! but err why is he crawling past so slowly  ;D

I ran with 10 wing to be on the safe side (cant drive any of the cars in GTR2 with the wing set below 9 anyway) took soft tyres all round for the race as they had less wear, although they did get a bit hot when pushing it with Jose for the first half of the race.

                                                  Great race, love the Exige
                                                            Cheers Ade


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: linco24 on July 22, 2009, 12:34:37 PM +0100
I had a very average race. Was cooking my softs after a few laps and meds seemed to be holding up just okay in qually and praccy. So, went with hards on the rear which wasn't the best idea. Temps were fine, but rear end grip wasn't great.

I also ran with 6 rear wing and I was getting passed very easily on the main straight....


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lotus Cup - Mugello (GP) - Jul 21
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on July 22, 2009, 02:50:50 PM +0100
I also ran with 6 rear wing and I was getting passed very easily on the main straight....

I had wing 6. You were getting blown away down the main straight because your exit onto it was rubbish :P :laugh: and because these cars seem to have a massive slipstream! :o ;D