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Title: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 18, 2009, 11:57:02 AM +0100
Season 17  Division 1 - Final Round - Monza

The championship is decided pending moderation, nevertheless the final round at Monza promises to be a cracker.  

Race List = VROC
Server = 6.UKGPL
IP address = 80.5.200.198
Race date = 19-07-2009
Time 9:00 pm (UK London Time = BST = GMT + 1h)
Track = Monza
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (33 laps)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)


Pit Stop Times
Single Stop Time
 
Double Stop Time
Cooper
No Stop
 
N/A
BRM
5
 
N/A
Honda
11
 
N/A
Brabham
18
 
N/A
Ferrari
25
 
N/A
Eagle
46
 
21
Lotus
48
 
21


 First Pit Window is: 26 (to go on your pit board) to 17 (to go on your pit board)
 Second Pit Window is: 24 (to go on your pit board) to 9 (to go on your pit board)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 18, 2009, 12:23:06 PM +0100
According to my calculations, with the 2 worst results dropped the championship is not decided yet.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 19, 2009, 12:34:05 PM +0100
The web site has already taken 1 dropped score into consideration, they are the greyed out results (6 points for Tim at Mosport and 5 points for you at Snetterton).  So that means even if you win and Tim fails to score you can only increase your points total by 44 (50 minus the 6 for the Nurby or Jarama rounds) so you would end up with 279 against Tim's 280.  The Mosport and Silverstone rounds are not modded but since Mosport is already Tim's worst score, he would have to be penalized and loose points for an incident at Silverstone for him not to have won the title.  As far as I know Tim had a clean race at Silverstone.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Turkey Machine on July 19, 2009, 01:16:08 PM +0100
Will be missing this one again. Shame, as I like Monza. Wouldn't have a hope in a frozen hell at victory though, the way I'm driving! ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 19, 2009, 02:45:33 PM +0100
The web site has already taken 1 dropped score into consideration, they are the greyed out results (6 points for Tim at Mosport and 5 points for you at Snetterton).  So that means even if you win and Tim fails to score you can only increase your points total by 44 (50 minus the 6 for the Nurby or Jarama rounds) so you would end up with 279 against Tim's 280.  The Mosport and Silverstone rounds are not modded but since Mosport is already Tim's worst score, he would have to be penalized and loose points for an incident at Silverstone for him not to have won the title.  As far as I know Tim had a clean race at Silverstone.

OK, I wasn't aware that the total points reflect the dropped results. Thanks, Phil, and congrats to Tim, a worthy D1 and Waza Champion !!!  ;D

And don't forget - ALL YOUR VICTORIES ARE BELONG TO HER!!!  :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 19, 2009, 02:56:36 PM +0100
Cool  ;D

I'll still be going for podium though  ;)  :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: vosblod on July 19, 2009, 05:28:06 PM +0100
Server IP for tonight is : 80.5.200.198


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Turkey Machine on July 19, 2009, 08:18:13 PM +0100
I may be able to make this after all! Anybody got a setup for the Lotus? ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Samb on July 19, 2009, 09:56:52 PM +0100
Eek! What a disaster. Qualified 7th, made a good start and proceeded to close up on Tim only to lock the brakes and nearly crash into him. Then to top things off, my lead foot gets the better of me and slide into Jim! Loot was certainly not impressed and who could blame him.

Ah well, apologies to Jim and many thanks to the mods for running Season 17. Congrats to Tim for the driver's title and to the Wazas for the team's title.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: JamesRye on July 19, 2009, 10:18:10 PM +0100
ah well...

tried a new setup from SAMB and it worked pretty well as I lined up in  P9 with a PB and it was a tight group.

was running well in P6, when SAMB spun and I collected him and sent him into orbit. I carried on OK but later on Phil spun on acceleration out of the second lesbo and I sent him up to the moon as well  :o. Re-watching the replay I picked a side of the track to try to avoid the spinning Phil, perhaps I should have slammed on the brakes as well but it happened pretty quick.

The tough old BRM soldiered on and things looked OK, but then she let go on the main straight, I had to spin it around and rev the old girl up a bit, so thats what did it then.  :( Shame as I reckon a P5 might have been on the cards but no hard feelings, its been a fun season the highlight of which was my battle with the superior driver Evil Clive at Jarama. Shame he had a disco there because it would have been tight. Loosing P2 on the last lap at Canada is a lowlight. Good racing guys  ;)


Jim





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: bernie on July 19, 2009, 10:50:59 PM +0100
Spun away da best practise laps  but plugged on and managed a 1 28 xx good enough for P3 but then was bumped in the last minutes to P4

Race start was good and H let me through into P3 as his Wassa, wassa heavy and a slowa outa da corners (as they say in italy)

Lap 3 and the dreaded crampa struckame left hand so wassa trying hard to keep onna da blacka stuff witha da one a hand which maka me spin into a da isa creama van and looza da more places .

Then mama mia I make a da good piella a stoppa and blowa da engine sky high when i am a try to leave a da pits withouta pay the man .

better luck next a time

Well done to whoever finished in a one a pizza and the guy what won da race  :)



 

  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: fpolicardi on July 20, 2009, 12:00:04 AM +0100
 8) ::) :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 20, 2009, 12:30:03 AM +0100
Ken was just unbeatable today, he drove without any mistakes and I had no answer to that as I made too many on my own, plus the requirement to save engine which lost me a good half a second a lap. The start was interesting as Bernie and Jethro passed me by, then I had to try very hard to put any pressure on Bernie.

It was just looking like we would have a battle when he had a spin in Lesmo 2, but luckily I managed to avoid him. Started closing in slightly on Jethro who was some 4 seconds ahead at that point, but I think his mind just wasn't in the race. I noticed him using the pitlane at full speed (lol) while he was ahead of Bernie, then he had a very strange wobble on the straight before T1, then he went off into Parabolica by braking way too late.

I was up to 2nd just to get depressed by seeing the gap to Ken has grown up to 20 seconds! I wasn't sure what his pitstop times were, but with my 11 seconds stop I thought it was all over. I tried to go as fast as I dared without overheating the engine though, but instead my rear left overheated too much and the handling became a lottery.

Even without the few offs I don't think I could challenge Ken though. Perhaps come near him after his 2nd stop, but he was more than a second a lap faster so he would've shaken me out with ease.

Anyway, grats to Ken for a well deserved win and to Tim again for the Drivers Championship! And of course, grats to Wazas for the domination in the Teams Championship!!! There's no stopping what can't be stopped. ;D

-=Hristo=-


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Michael Turner on July 20, 2009, 08:48:07 AM +0100
The cunning plan was this. Take the Cooper and by driving a steady race take advantage of others' mishaps and lengthy stops to achieve a respectable mid table finish.  :smartass: All came to nought when the engine blew after a couple of laps :o

Congrats to the winners and champions  :notworthy:and on to the next season


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Turkey Machine on July 20, 2009, 02:02:29 PM +0100
I f**ked it. Twice. At Parabolica. 'nuff said.

OK, maybe not quite.

Hristo's right, my mind wasn't totally on it. Not helped by dodgy speakers, pedals moving further and further backwards, and the hi-res version of Monza being just a bit frameskippy. Cup of tea helped though!

To qualify 3rd was impressive, especially with a Senna-esque last charge last lap in qualifying. I think I crossed the line with about 10 seconds or so left on the clock and just went for it, tyres warmed up, braking points sussed (well, except Lesmo), and it got me a high 1:28 for the 2nd row. Merci to the GH2 setup master! :)

Got a great start, breezed past a seemingly stationary Hristo into T1, tried vainly to go after Ken but it wasn't having any of it. He was in a class of his own, and after a few laps when I planned to go into the pits, I misjudged the braking at Parabolica and slid off. The car was still good, but it put me down the order since I had to struggle outta the kitty litter.

2nd time I misjudged braking at Parabolica it did so much damage to the engine it felt like a 65 car. I didn't realise how bad until after the 2nd pitstop. At that point, after a few laps more with struggling the car and doing 1:34s+ I'd had enough of going down the order and crashed it. I was enjoying it, until the car didn't feel like a Lotus 49 any more.

Not the best conditions to do a race. I will be working on getting my own ADSL connection for home, as I need it for the times I do races.

Congrats to Tim for the season, you just had the consistency needed. Shame I couldn't finish more races, I enjoyed the Lotus. I had the worst luck possible at Nurburgring though, 2 corners and the engine blew...... won't mention Albi despite being one of my best finishes. Congrats to the modders, we sure kept you busy at times! ;D


As an aside, I would very much appreciate it, and I'm sure European racers would, if races were run at 8pm instead of 9pm. Especially the longer races like Amateurs and Interleague.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on July 20, 2009, 04:08:28 PM +0100
I wouldn't - I'd miss even more TopGear's  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Turkey Machine on July 20, 2009, 05:02:54 PM +0100
*cough*iPlayer*cough*

or

*cough*Racing Underground*cough*


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Ken Murray on July 20, 2009, 05:45:03 PM +0100
Well this was a bit deja vu following the Historic race last week. This time however I couldn't relax until I was sure I had maintained track position over Hristo after my second stop. As I exited the pits I think my Prib display was showing about 5 secs and I wasn't sure if I'd get to Curve Grande first. As it turned out I made it and I don't think I even caught a glimpse of Hristo in my mirrors!!

I could relax a bit then and save the engine even more. It had been running over 200deg for most of the race and I had already been short shifting in to top early to try to save it. Also I'd lengthened top after qually to make it a bit of an overdrive anyway, I was so nervous of the Lotus fragility.

It's a shame I missed the start of the season due to my PC failure so roll on S18!!

Thanks again to all the modders and admin for making it all possible.

PS I'm quite happy with 9.00pm starts. Anything earlier can sometimes interfere with domestic goings on. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Hristo Itchov on July 20, 2009, 05:56:05 PM +0100
It's UK(GPL) after all, so I suppose it makes sense for the start time to suit UKers best.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Phil Thornton on July 20, 2009, 09:04:04 PM +0100
Pleased with qually and got a reasonable start but had to drive hard to keep the champ behind.  All in vain though, I got distracted by a yellow flag on the entry to parabolica on lap 1 and slid off into the gravel and Tim was through.  Lost few few places but enjoyed the fight back up through the field until I clipped the grass on the exit of Lesmo 2.  Ended up spinning and got collected by James.  Race over for me but thankfully James could continue, sorry M8.

The mods have started prep for season 18 which is likely to start on the 6th September to coincide with GBGPL's next season (so we can run the collaboration with the 69 series again).  This should also ensure we have enough time to get the interleague program agreed.  Keep checking for posts over the summer and make sure you vote in any polls the mods set up (for example what time you want the races to start - times are traditionally chosen to suite UK based drivers but there is room for flexibility).  There are plenty of off season races planned so you can keep your skills honed, looking forward to racing with you all in season 18.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Rick Nauman on July 25, 2009, 01:26:06 AM +0100
Well it's 5 days past but I thought I'd add my comments.  My race was miserable but I'm just reeeal happy I didn't take out Evil Clive when I locked up my brakes going into the Parabolica on lap... uh like 3!  He and I had a little see-saw battle going and it looked like it might be a fun race.  But trailing Clive at my fateful corner I braked early (but not real hard) so as not to be to aggressive early in the race.  But just as the gap closed up under braking it looked like Clive jinked a little in my direction and I totally flinched, mashing the brake pedal just hard enough to lock 'em up.  I slid across his bow and I think we touched but he motored on without losing control.  I skidded into the hedge row and got hopelessly sucked in.  I think his jink was just unstableness under hard braking and not intentional.  But I was so keen not to take anybody out in only my second race that I over reacted and almost did just that.

Thanks for taking me in and I'm looking forward to doing a full season with you  guys soon.

P.S.  For the life of me I can't seem to find the server replay of the race.  Someone link me?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: vosblod on July 25, 2009, 01:38:43 AM +0100
P.S.  For the life of me I can't seem to find the server replay of the race.  Someone link me?
In the usual place; http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/2009.07.19_Monza_D1/ (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/2009.07.19_Monza_D1/)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: bernie on July 26, 2009, 11:10:40 AM +0100
Well it's 5 days past but I thought I'd add my comments.  My race was miserable but I'm just reeeal happy I didn't take out Evil Clive when I locked up my brakes going into the Parabolica on lap... uh like 3!  He and I had a little see-saw battle going and it looked like it might be a fun race.  But trailing Clive at my fateful corner I braked early (but not real hard) so as not to be to aggressive early in the race.  But just as the gap closed up under braking it looked like Clive jinked a little in my direction and I totally flinched, mashing the brake pedal just hard enough to lock 'em up.  I slid across his bow and I think we touched but he motored on without losing control.  I skidded into the hedge row and got hopelessly sucked in.  I think his jink was just unstableness under hard braking and not intentional.  But I was so keen not to take anybody out in only my second race that I over reacted and almost did just that.

Thanks for taking me in and I'm looking forward to doing a full season with you  guys soon.

P.S.  For the life of me I can't seem to find the server replay of the race.  Someone link me?

Glad to here you are enjoying the racing  :)

Most on here would have loved the chance to put Evil right where he belongs  ;)

Better luck next time ( try stomping on the brake a bit harder )  ;D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Division 1 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 19
Post by: Doni Yourth on July 26, 2009, 03:38:25 PM +0100
Late, late, very late indeed...  Sry, fellas.

Grats to Ken for a fine win in a stellar drive.  Good show.

Big H a typical...ie, blisteringly fast...run to P2 in the Red Ball Special.

Great job by Fulvio to roar into P3 in the Coopie.  Not a primo ride at Monza at the best of times.

A decent run for me with only one real gaffe.  A spin at Lesmo2 got me trouble with my minimal steering lock not helping get righted any time soon.  Luckily, it was late in the going and I had lots of free track before Ken arrived.

I see by our Championship table for D1 that Tim has pipped Hristo for the title.  Grats, TM!  And excellent job to you, 2, H.  P3 in the title run goes to Sam who did a fine job in the BRM.  Two victories.  Splendid stuff there, SB.  I managed a close P4 but rue the day that I shorted myself a gallon of fuel at LMC and had to soft-pedal it home over the last lap and a half.  Dropped from P2 to P4 in that go and there's the difference in the final standings.

C'est la guerre.   ;D

Looking forward to Season 18!

PS: Guess there's not much chance of it running in iGOR, is there?  OK.  I'll just have to suffer the VROC steering glitch once again.  Sigh...