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Title: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 19, 2009, 08:10:07 AM +0100
All members welcome - no registration required.

Practice 1:20:00(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:10(25 mins)
Race:20:35(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT2 or GT3 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.10.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics).
Weather: Changeable, seeded from real-world conditions.
Track: Valencia GP.
Race Start Time: 14:00.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Lower Endurance
Password: See above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=218;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track pack (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Legzy on August 19, 2009, 10:17:32 AM +0100
Looking forward to this one. This track is perfect for my trusty F430 & I did quite well both times a few months back :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Gazza49er on August 23, 2009, 01:25:07 PM +0100
Aaaaarrgghhh forgot im playing cricket 2day for a works event, not sure if i'll be back in time, have no idea how long this thing is going to be.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Cristi Rus on August 23, 2009, 06:05:02 PM +0100
Hi all.
My first race on SRou. See you on track.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Jeffrey on August 23, 2009, 07:09:37 PM +0100
Hi all.
My first race on SRou. See you on track.

Oh no, not you here ;D. Everybody moves 1 place back on the grid ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: ginsters sponsored on August 23, 2009, 07:11:14 PM +0100
Even you? :o Nonetheless, welcome aboard Cristi  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Truetom on August 23, 2009, 07:54:09 PM +0100
Hi Cristi. I race at R2P as Tom Ostry. Welcome. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: goldtop on August 23, 2009, 09:11:52 PM +0100
Another disco for me; saw the times going wierd up the pit straight so pressed esc. :(

Just about beat the GT3 guys in quali, which was the highlight of my night. Brimmed the tank and reckoned I'd sneak some back at the pitstop. It wasn't enough to keep me ahead of Gazza though and soon I was having to overdrive, resulting in the inevitable spins that followed.

Still, more enjoyable than my drive down the M42 after a great day at Doni.

Hope you all had a great race :)

Edit: Oh, and welcome Cristi. I hope you have a great time here. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: H@L9000 on August 23, 2009, 09:50:09 PM +0100
Lost connection with 20 mins left. :'(

Totally gutted. I think my modem (or ISP, however it works) reset the ip, got lazy with restarting it before a race.

Had a nice chase with TT and Cristi. Welcome Cristi :). Sorry if my car was in the way of anyone when I lost connection. Cristi was close behind, sorry if you hit it. :(

Have fun all.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: ginsters sponsored on August 23, 2009, 10:08:20 PM +0100
Tough break Tudor, has someone cursed Team KC this year? Time to get out the Shark dolls ;)

Brilliant first half of race after a terrible quali effort. Nice battles with Gazza and Cristi outta the way I caught JR and Jose battle quite nicely as they held each other up. Then my pitsop was a disaster. How on earth I lost so much time and so many places I have no idea  :'( Maybe the pit crew wasn't expecting me to reach half way as I haven't been there in 10 races  :). Seriously, it sucks.

Congrats to all and hope you had fun Cristi (the bimmer looked horrible on that track).



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: JPS on August 23, 2009, 10:08:25 PM +0100
One part of that circuit I hate, the uphill R/L chicane.....otherwise a good circuit

Very pleased with a top ten finish 8) GT2 valuable points for the Legends Team, had a very good battle along the way with MattRowe 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Jeffrey on August 23, 2009, 10:18:06 PM +0100
Was very happy with my qually lap, a PB for me.

During the first lap I hit a curb halfway and slided a bit, but enough for Jose to get by. I was then stuck behind him for 35 minutes  :o. I was a bit quicker but he was fast enough at the important places.
I then decided to pit earlier than planned as I saw SBG come closer and I just couldn't get past.
Did a nice quick stop and had a nice empty space when I came out. Weirdly people fighting for position let me by at that stage, very kind, but not necessaary :).

When Jose did his stop I had a 5 second lead. He came a bit closer sometimes so I had to put myself to it to push a bit harder by doing some hotlapping.
All of a sudden the gap was 12 seconds and increasing quite rapidly near the end, what happened Jose?

Good to see you here Cris, hope you enjoyed it :).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Stewprovo on August 23, 2009, 10:20:47 PM +0100
DC'd with 3 mins of quali left, no time to get a lap in, so was at back. Filled tank, went for it. Sorry for confusion on parade lap Dave, I accidently flashed you trying to find limiter (I've had to reintall program, and re-assigned buttons). I did not pass you as I was supposed to be at back. Really big sorry to Peter Allnutt for slamming your rear end at end of second lap. Just came over crest into last turn, was up inside Dave, and got a little airbourne with brakes on, I fully understand if a report goes in, totally my fault. Any way, a few offs later, and pit went ok, gained about 25 secs on guys in front by not needing fuel, only to run off the track, hit the wall at turn 1, and break the car, race over. Gratz to podiums, away next week, so see you all week after.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: goldtop on August 23, 2009, 10:24:55 PM +0100

 Then my pitsop was a disaster. How on earth I lost so much time and so many places I have no idea  :'( Maybe the pit crew wasn't expecting me to reach half way as I haven't been there in 10 races  :). Seriously, it sucks.


I told you we shouldn't have used those guys from McLaren ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: picnic on August 23, 2009, 10:29:25 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090823%20U10LE/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Josè Arrogantio on August 23, 2009, 10:48:53 PM +0100
I was planning to only take fuel at my stop so when I passed Ruskus I started trying to conserve my tires. Had less than 10 wear on my rears when I came in but forgot to change my selection to “No Change” so ended up getting four unwanted tires and wasting a load of time, stupid error.
 :wetfish: :wetfish: :wetfish:
Came out behind Ruskus and was able to close on him slightly but some small mistakes and collecting a spun GT3 meant the gap was pretty much constant at about 5 to 6 seconds.
My charge was halted when my screen went black and everything froze for about 8 seconds on the exit of turn 1. After that I was cruising slowly round to the finish a bit paranoid about it freezing again.
Gutted not to get the win. Had a chance to beat the mighty Ruskus and messed it up with a stupid mistake.
 :cursing: :censored: :cursing: :censored: :cursing: :censored: :cursing:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Cristi Rus on August 23, 2009, 11:04:16 PM +0100
Hey guys. Thank you for the warm welcome  :laugh:
Tom Ostry told me about this league a while back so I said I should give it a try.
Very nice battle with H@L - btw mate your gearbox was really good. If possible I'd like your setup. Oh I was lucky with your ghost  :D

I broke my PB with the M3 at Valencia. I didn't expect a time like this, though when I saw Jeffrey's 1.32.1, I knew it's gonna be tricky.
The race was very competitive and I didn't think the M3 will be this much slower than Lambo and 430. Guys behind me were obviously faster and when I made a mistake a couple of them went by. Than I hit a ghost in the last turn and it threw me out in the sand, lost good seconds in there, plus the long straight.
I didn't had time to test other cars so I went for a safer choice.
I'll give it a shot in the other cars as well, so I hope to see you next Sunday.

Cristi.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Truetom on August 24, 2009, 07:14:03 AM +0100
A usual opening laps close with H@l, it's a tradition, really. :D  Then Legzy, equal pace until my tyres were off, well driven, Legz. 8)
Panoz uses tyres like water, had hard fronts and med rears, even so the temps were a bit too high. I never saw any car that would eat tyres as much, at half I had fronts about 27 and rears about 22.  :no:  Point is, the car didn't feel as slow, though laptimes show a different picture. I keep telling me I don't know the car yet... ;)

Well done, winners. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 24, 2009, 07:36:38 AM +0100
A race of two halves for me. Thought qualifying went relatively well, improving on my time from practice by over a second, but still ended up dead last in class and seemingly miles off the pace. Just about stuck with the other GT3 cars in the opening laps, with Lazlow seemingly holding the field up, but as my front tyres wore I gradually slipped back. Eventually Lazlow took on the uncharacteristic role of Sir Falloffalot, but API and Picnic ahead were getting away quite rapidly, and the only person I was really battling was Smokey in his wayward M3.

Stopped bang on half way - tyre wear was such that there was no other sensible strategy - but by the time the stops had shaken out, I had a healthy gp over API, and no shot at Picnic's Z3M. I knew API's 811 would be a lot quicker until his tyres wore so I pushed hard, trying not to be too kind to the lapping GT2s, and to ignore Smokey's inconsistently faster M3 (which I nearly ran into the back of in turn 1 at one point!). API was drawing inexorably closer, and I was on badly worn rubber, but the clock expired about 5 minutes earler than he needed, and somehow we had a Team Shark 1-2 in class. ;D

Sorry for confusion on parade lap Dave, I accidently flashed you trying to find limiter (I've had to reintall program, and re-assigned buttons). I did not pass you as I was supposed to be at back.

I didn't even notice that flash, I knew you were out of position and in a faster class car so I was desperately trying to get you to go past on the formation lap so I didn't have to deal with you at the start. :D

Really big sorry to Peter Allnutt for slamming your rear end at end of second lap. Just came over crest into last turn, was up inside Dave, and got a little airbourne with brakes on,

That was a scary moment and a half!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: picnic on August 24, 2009, 07:53:41 AM +0100
Really big sorry to Peter Allnutt for slamming your rear end at end of second lap. Just came over crest into last turn, was up inside Dave, and got a little airbourne with brakes on, I fully understand if a report goes in, totally my fault.

I suddenly saw this car looming very large in my mirrors, I hadn't even realised you were passing Dave let alone passed him! Still no harm done, we didn't fall off and the damage didn't seem to slow me down. Thanks for the apology :)

Not sure what happened to Lazlow, in the early stages I could see him 3 or 4 cars in front while he played with the slower GT2s but as they cleared off I expected him to slowly cruise away, probably taking API with him but that didn't happen. Perhaps the tyres went off as both API and myself closed and we had a few very close laps racing. Great stuff :) After Lazlow finally pushed too hard and fell back I could keep up with API but never had the pace to attempt a clean pass, partially because I was continuing to short shift everywhere after my fuel fiasco at the last round, and partly because I knew API would need fuel at the stop so a safe pass would happen then.

So after the pit stops the second half of the race was a bit tedious, keep the pace reasonable and let the GT2s passed. Shame the turn out for the GT3s is waning, but I'm enjoying the car (most of the time) so roll on the 2nd half of the season.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Legzy on August 24, 2009, 09:55:53 AM +0100
So after the pit stops the second half of the race was a bit tedious, keep the pace reasonable and let the GT2s passed. Shame the turn out for the GT3s is waning, but I'm enjoying the car (most of the time) so roll on the 2nd half of the season.
I race in the smaller field in the 'Upper Endurance' events & know exactly how you feel Pete.
It would be great if some of the people not going for (or in the thick of) the GT2 Championship could think about driving a GT3 car (& some GT1 drivers to GTC) to even out the field a bit.
Also, some of the guys struggling to control the overpowered GT1's & GT2's will have a much more enjoyable race staying on the track with GTC's & GT3's.

Just my opinion/suggestion & not trying to force anybody to do anything :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Legzy on August 24, 2009, 11:17:00 AM +0100
Managed to equal my qualy from last time here with a 1:33.3 (just two 10th's off the lap record) earning a measly 7th on the grid :o. But with H@L & TT lined up behind me, I figured is was just a matter of time before they came past.

Made a good start & clung onto the back of Simon for quite a few laps without being able to trouble him. While the gap back to H@L & TT increasing just slightly with each lap as they fought. But then TT seemed to break free of H@L & started applying the pressure. Each lap was the same pattern, I had a whole lap of twisties to get the gap upto about 1sec before he'd hunt me down on the straight & I started having to get a bit defensive on the 1st/2nd corners to keep hold of 6th position ;)

Pitted just after half way having led for the 1st time ever in a race (even if it was just for a lap ;D), came out in 5th & watched SBG close the gap while my tyres warmed up. Then managed to fend him off my rear bumper for about five laps, before I started to think it would be better to let him past & secure 6th rather then risk losing it & dropping down the field possibly damaged... a few corners later I accidentally ran wide. I moved to cover but decided it was the time to let him through (not sure it would have been much longer anyway)  & it was at that moment I heard chicken clucking noises over Team Speak  :lol: (Team Mate Lazlow had exited out & was apparently watching from the pits! LOL). I managed to stick with Ginsters for longer then I expected, but he was better through the traffic & then just better. But I was happy because I secured 6th spot comfortably.

Not a lot of overtaking, but some most enjoyable close racing  :)

Well done all finishers.

p.s. Come on MJ, what's happening? I'm missing our :fencing: this season. :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: goldtop on August 24, 2009, 01:02:59 PM +0100
It would be great if some of the people not going for (or in the thick of) the GT2 Championship could think about driving a GT3 car (& some GT1 drivers to GTC) to even out the field a bit.
Also, some of the guys struggling to control the overpowered GT1's & GT2's will have a much more enjoyable race staying on the track with GTC's & GT3's.

Just my opinion/suggestion & not trying to force anybody to do anything :)

I'd been considering this, but wasn't aware that we were able to change mid season. I drove some of the GTC cars around Hock after the race and they were much more manageable and enjoyable for me. Would the few points I've accumulated to date in GT1 and GT2 be wiped if I were to change? I wouldn't really want to lose any team points.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: lazlow on August 24, 2009, 01:07:53 PM +0100
Decided to try left foot braking for the first time yesterday...which improved my lap times by 0.5 sec...but made my driving a bit eratic and unpredictable....I think I must of span off about 6 times, once right in front of a GT2 car :-[ because of this I thought it best to exit the race....didn't much matter though as I still finished 4th ;D.

I agree with "picnic", shame about the turn out for the GT3's...allthough I did find it fun trying to stay ahead of the GT2 cars.

See you all at the next one

Laz


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Legzy on August 24, 2009, 01:10:39 PM +0100
Would the few points I've accumulated to date in GT1 and GT2 be wiped if I were to change? I wouldn't really want to lose any team points.
No points previously earned would be lost.  :)

Personally I've all but given up trying to drive GT1's for now, they require a level of ability I simply don't have yet. I ended up quite frustrated with going off regularly & was nearly always on my own at the back of the class. I'm less of a hazzard in the other classes too ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Truetom on August 24, 2009, 03:31:38 PM +0100
It would be great if some of the people not going for (or in the thick of) the GT2 Championship could think about driving a GT3 car (& some GT1 drivers to GTC) to even out the field a bit.
Also, some of the guys struggling to control the overpowered GT1's & GT2's will have a much more enjoyable race staying on the track with GTC's & GT3's.

Just my opinion/suggestion & not trying to force anybody to do anything :)

Yes, I've been thinking about it and I might go for it in LE. :)  But I'm not getting out of the Marcos. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: H@L9000 on August 24, 2009, 03:33:24 PM +0100
Very nice battle with H@L - btw mate your gearbox was really good. If possible I'd like your setup.

Can do:
http://www.filefront.com/14378605/HL-BMWM3-ValGP-R-Hot.svm/
I decided to use hard rear tyres due to the high temps.

Oh I was lucky with your ghost  :D

Nice. :)

Well done podiums. GT2 championship is now very close at the front. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: phspok on August 24, 2009, 05:32:19 PM +0100
Good race, decided (Legzy) to run T2, as so far I have been the slowest of the slow group, and spent
big chunks of "race" trying desperately to get out of the way of the hugely faster fast group leaders
when I ran G3.
Had a great 1st half slowwwllyyyy pulling away from JPS, then having a wobble somewhere and him
catch up to a sec or less, then inch away again, wobble/catch etc etc. As usual lost more than 30 secs in the stops
This bothers me, I always, and I mean always lose at least 30 secs in the stops in GTL or GTR2
I even tried running hard rears at the last event, and only swapping the fronts, stil lost 30 secs
from where I was before I went in. What are you guys doing? adding 20 litres fuel and changing
only fronts or something?
Anyroadup, had set 1 stop in the setup. and taken no damae hit return as soon as the board came up
and came out 30 secs behind JPS, when I had been 3 secs in front before the stop.
he then helpfully fell off and now I was a few secs behind trying to catch, odd, I was able to
inch away before stops, now he was pulling away, if you didnt change all tyres how did you mae this  :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on August 24, 2009, 06:58:45 PM +0100
ps.Sorry to MJ - the one and only mistake I made during the whole race was right in front of you and gave you nowhere to go. :-[


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Valencia (GP) - Aug 23
Post by: Cristi Rus on August 24, 2009, 07:39:55 PM +0100
Thank you H@L. I'll give it a try when I'll have some spare time.