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Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:10	(25 mins)
Race:	20:35	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or GTC from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.10.0.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics).
Weather: Changeable, seeded from real-world conditions.
Track: UKGTR Potrero de los Funes v1.0.0.0 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54900#post_potrero)).
Race Start Time: 14:00.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Upper Endurance (you will need the lobby patch (http://www.simbin.se/files/gtr2_ofp.zip) to see it)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=219;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).

So this is how a non-castrated Enna Pergusa would look like!  8)

Great track.

Looking forward to getting my teeth into a new GTR2 track, nice one Dave :thumbup1:

I hope I can do better in the Marcos than the last time on this track. ;)  But I agree, it's a good track, a shining star in these new "I will see it all from my seat" tracks.

EDIT: How much wing do you guys use on GT1 cars?  :)

Server coming up now & I'm on learning it  ;D

I am jumping back and forth from Lister Storm to Aston martin DBR9 to DBRs9 and I cant really chose which one I will take for this race  ??? I have been doing some laps together with H@L and We both have to say that the track is a real hit.. nice long sweeping corners combined with some tricky of camber ones.
My wing/splitter settings are like this.

DBR9 = Wing 7 - Splitter 2  time 2.07.200"
Dbrs9 = Wing 7 - Splitter 2  time 2.20.225"
Lister = Wing 7 - Splitter 2  time 2.11.856"

Medium Tires on all (front and rear)
85L of Fuel

I'm 2:07s in quali specs with the Marcos, 12 wing, will try to lower it. Though this is still at least 3 seconds above lap record.  :(

MC12 will be 2/11 as any lower rear wing makes it uncontrollable for me. Think oversteer is your friend around here, especially around that very fast right hander and chicane near end. They can be taken flat out in the MC12 (exciting :)) but I had to lift in the less pointy Aston and lost a lot of time. 

Good track to hotlap and, if trial race is anything to go by, race should be fun.

This should be fun.
I simply love that track. Must download and test it.
Too bad FIA GT won't go to Argentina this season. Damn crisis  :'(
I'm tired of all the Tilke tracks and I am so happy when I see a track built without taking down the hills or forest.

Hey Cristi good to see you here as well :)

just as i was getting bored, you bring along a cool new track...damn and i am out on sunday night so will miss this  :(

Hmm, server running Birmingham GP?

Either you're looking at the P&G server or you've not installed Potrero yet? :-\

So are you going to join us in the GTC's Rob? More people of our level to battle with 8). I've just about managed a 2:18 now finally! :sweatdrop:

"Game Not available host maybe running a modified or updated game"

Hmm I am running this in GTR2, and have installed Srou_Potrero from link in downloads?

I try downloading the Car Pack incase its that.


Update:- Nope still saying same message...

Is this a new GTR2 install? Isn't that the error one gets if you're not running the same version? Ensure you have the GTR2 1.1 patch installed. Track missing and mismatches are separate errors.

You've done all the latest car packs? the GTR2 1.1 patch?

Had some fun around here last night, especially watchy Legzy struggling around here miles off the pace. Even gave him my Porsche setup having done a 16.1 with it earlier. Though even Oily has said he thought my porsche setups are undriveable, i guess i have a very smooth style with it so as not to provoke it any further! So which car will it be then Legz?

Had a good stint running with Jorgen in the GT1's and looks like we might be close, both doing 2.07.4's which should make things interesting as by the looks of things everyone is miles faster :o Just hope i finally get to race this track this time having been dumped out just as the session changed.

it was fun last night Spanner (with Ade too) if a little frustrating for me.

I'm currently leading the GTC championship (Shark missed a race ;)) & so I'm somewhat surprised to be almost four seconds a lap slower then almost everybody here. I'm beginning to wonder if swapping to the Porka at the last race was a bit of a stupid idea as I was a bit average at best there too really :-\.

I'm thinking of taking a different car rather then be on my own at the back & I see the rules state:
So do I understand this correctly, that if I drive say the Viper (my 2nd swap) for the rest of the season, I'll lose 20% of my points earned for this race but all the following races will be back to normal scoring for me? Or do I lose 20% of my points for all futrure races too?

Thanks in advance :)

Still cant get bloody thing to work with 2.10 car packs:/

I bloody give up!

Really do

Reinstalled game, added the UKGTR 2.9 skins, 3.0 skins, The individual skins,ie gt1,2 tc etc the 1100 patch, UKGTR cars 2.10.

Still says same thing, Everything was working ok before, I never changed a thing, something must be either changed on server or not set properly :/

Have you applied the lobby patch from simbin?

Sounds like your getting desparate err... both of you ;D

SORTED was joining wrong bloody server!

Was in GTR2 trying to connect to PnG server and not the GTR2 server :P

Engaging brain is always harder than pressing the 'post' button :P

Just for that race.

 ::) ::) :P

Managed to do a 2:14.9 in the Z4 :o...but will more likely be doing mid 2:15's (I hope).

Can't get near Lazlow, despite hours (& hours) of trying & in five different cars too.
I was quickest in the Viper having put quite a bit of time into it (2:17.2) & almost the same time in the Z4 (2:17.4) after a handful of laps (don't want to use that car)...
997 Porka & F430 were spot on the same for me (2:18.1), but I have zero consistency in the Porka. The Morgan is nice & feels fast but I'm just surprisingly slow with it (2:19.0).

So think I will move away from the Porka sadly, but not sure what too yet as the Viper mullers tyres & fuel :-\

GT1s - u guys really running high wing settings? Here?  ???

No :P

Well I tried higher settings on the wing (10-11) and my time stayed close to the same. The car felt better/safer in cornering but had alot more drag to it (slower topspeed)
and I feel it's going to be "harder" both on the tires and on the fuel + it's going to be ALOT harder to keep up with all the "aliens" on the straights out there... :angel:
SO I will prolly go with a wing 6-7 & splitter 2 if the weather stays the same.

PS.. thx a bunch to both FreQ and Jon Moore for the (s)how last night...you really can push it around those corners.  :o DS

I had been running 4 in the Viper, but after a bit of help from FreQ I found I am faster with 6. Thanks FreQ. :)

Some one was saying on TS last night that you need a good balance as the track has sections requiring lots of down force, but dont forget the straights. ;D

Cant remember who said those wise words, sorry.

This track requires allot of technique, we need a track guide. ;D

I am going to go and study some fast laps. (after the F1, go Fizzy ;D).

OK. Non-alien race pace would be?

Quick stupid question / I have noticed....

If I run an off line race and set the race length to 1 hr 20mins, I get a 2 hour, 120min race!

The generate weather link is also showing 120 mins!?

I assume when the server is set we will get 80mins!?

Worth a double check Dave ?

Running The Morgan this time but am very slow! 2.19's in the race IF I go well!  :'(

I'm an non :alien: and I guess my race-pace will be in the mid 2.07 but occasionally some 2.1x.xxx will occur cause of traffic/bad driving from my part.  :wheelchair:  :blink:

Edit I'm in a DBR9...

Are you sure you have chosen the UKGTR Potrero and not the 'normal' one?

I dont know the track...... but I fancy the 911 Cup Car again..... decisions  ::)

Switching to GTC for the rest of this season. Those GT1s are just toooooo fast for me.

Been having more than my fair share of discos lately, so I'm just hoping to finish. Hope the team KC pit crew gets its act together for this one too :)

LOL. I won't be winning then. Managed a 2:17 at best in practice. Horrible circuit.

 :taz:

Old man is doing work at the house and has screwed the electrics. Power keeps cutting out for a sec. Unbelievable.! >:(

Have a good race all.

After about 6 laps practice before the race, I managed to find another 2 seconds in qualifying which amazingly put me second on the grid. Was quite happily following Lazlow. He appeared to have the pace on me and was probably taking it easy? but I was hanging on with about 2-3 second gap. Dunno what happened next, but I slammed my right side into a wall somewhere and limped back to the pits with only 15-20 minutes gone? Pitted and took them about 2 minutes to fit new mediums and fix the very badly broken car. Managed to come out without being lapped in GTC so all was not lost and I just tried as hard as I could.

I knew I didn't need anymore fuel, but tyres were an issue. Managed to get back up to 5th in GTC after every one else's pitstops and was chasing Prof down. Managed to get the gap down to 4-5 seconds with about 15 minutes to go and just after Gizmo passed me in his Corvette I lost the line slightly, went to fast into the final chicane hit the wall and killed the engine. Race over. Tyres were completely shot by then though and I was struggling with pace only managing mid 2:17s.

Have to say I hated the circuit. That stupid slow hairpin stuff near the end was almost impossible to drive, but the rest was just plain evil too. Was hard to let GT1s by cause you constantly had to sweep from one side of the road to the other for the next corner and I'm sure it looked like I was blocking sometimes!

Hope you enjoyed it more than me.

Considering my missed round last time out and this dismal result, that's basically championship over now as I'm likely to miss 2 more through holiday before the end.

 :'( I'm out.. the freekin PC froze up on me on the 28 lap i think >:( :censored:

I had Jon Moore just on my tail and 24/7-Jure not far behind. I really hope you guys didn't crash in to me (and no one else for that matter) :oops: If soo I am really sorry.  :-[

This circuit has great rhythmn, terrible quali...started 24th I think and finished 16th and 7th in class..very pleased with that, the Porsche was probably not the car to be in for this circuit, but thoroughly enjoyed driving it here...battles with 57Goldtop and to some extent MattRowe 8)

Quali/Race report.


I didn't really know if I would make it in time for this race, jumped in on the server and realized that it was more then 1 hour left.
Got in to the car drove a couple of test laps to see that all was OK. managed to drink some coffee and look at the TV for 5min before race started.
After a quali that was "soo soo"  :-\  I had Truetom just ahead of me on the grid (I could barely hear my own car when that think roared of) Race went OK until I hit the wall
on the opposite side of the last corner uphill. Had to pit and it took more the 1min to fix That little "bump" I had. Out on the track again and chase up on lost time
(as if that would help ;D ) finally caught up on Dave and Jure and drove with them for a couple of laps until it was in for a quick fill and new set of tires.
Came out just behind Spanner, but I had a really hard time to keep up with him (good race as long as it lasted there Spanner ;) ) Then I could see how he passed
same cars don't know who it was but I had Jure in front of me and Jon behind me on that last corner uphill before the finish...then my PC gave up on me  :offtopic:
Just had to press the ON/OFF button on the PC for a reboot. waited like 10 sec before I did that. Just hope I didn't cause more damage to others on the way.

Over and out.

Hard work.

I qualified above my talent level and was overtaken by API and Ade in the early stages as my Z4 struggled on the long straights. A decent pit stop (for me) put me ten seconds ahead of Simon who swallowed up most of it before he disconnected. After that I found myself in a 25 second window both ahead and behind and the biggest danger was hitting the wall before the flag.

Congrats to Lazlow on the fantastic speed once again (would love to see your setup) and to the other podium sitters.

Much more enjoyable race for me in the GTC class. Quali'd mid pack and had great fun battling it out with JPS and API. Made a few mistakes when the GT1s started lapping - so many fast parts of the track they just seemed to appear from nowhere, so I ended up driving in my mirrors for much of the race. Ended up last of the finishers ::)

Bad luck Jorgen. Thought with similar pace practising it was going to be close, nevermind :(

Surprised myself getting ahead of Jure in Qually but managed to slowly eek out the gap watching H@L and Gazza have a good dice but just couldnt keep up with them and the gaps slowly built up with TT behind. Come the pitstop, i'm pressing the request button continously, hear a garbled message but the light still doesnt come on. Not sure if i have enough for another lap so have to dive in and find SBG right there or at least in the spot right next to it. Didnt fancy reversing back in to the box so had to come out and do a very slow lap round and managed to make it back for a proper stop. Came out and managed to slowly gain on Dave before getting passed but the 20 secs to TT was too much.

Surprised myself with that pace, shame about the pitstop. Love the track!

Set a PB in qually so was happy with that. It was a nice tussle between me, Joss and SBG all of us swapping the top spot in the last few minutes of qually. The race went well for me. I only had a couple of hits into the wall and in the first stint so had to get repaired when I fuelled up at the stop. I thought I'd put too little fuel in and was going steady in the 2nd stint but when I realised that I'd be ok I thought I'd increase the pace but there wasn't really any extra ;D Jorgen you froze offline so it didn't cause me any harm mate :) Great track, I really enjoyed it. Nice race all and grats to the finishers :)

Just like the test race here I had terrible pace all through qually and the race. Pity because I quite like the track, I just don't seem to be able to find a working setup and a consistent line.

Very temporary fight early with Jorgen after he made a mistake or two, and then Jure who was clearly struggling with his tyres towards the end of the first half of the race.

Tyres were holding up well so I decided to not change them at the stop, which saved me 15 seconds or so. Kept bouncing off the walls though and the damage was building up. Car got progessivey worse during the second half and at more than 2 seconds a lap quicker, I never had any real hope of holding off Spanner.

In the end it was only rotten luck for others that didn't see me last in class. :-\ Getting through the traffic was fascinating though, a real challenge here but not dangerously impossible with a fair number of fast straights and the ability to run offline through some of the very fast kinks. :o ;D

It was a good race for me, perfect actually with just a couple of minor mistakes that barely cost me time.

Started 4th and managed to get past FreQ, then leapfrogged sbg in the pits.

Lister here is amazing, both Jon and FreQ (in last fun race we had here) could take an easy win :o grats Jon and all podiums and finishers :)

First of all: a big apology to Jure. :( Was preparing a dash to inside for the next corner and there was the lightest of touch. In RL just the paint would be shared but here his car started to turn. Bumped it a bit more to righten it into forward motion and he made it - hope there wasn't any additional damage. Let him past, then he made a mistake. Went past and would have let him by to make it up, but he started to fall behind. :(

A lonely race from there on, only GTCs to keep me company - you guys were great. 8) I bet you heard Marcos form half a lap behind and it scared to hell outta you, so you jumped away SCREAMING.  ;D

Car was doing better than I thought, even managed to slide a bit without spinning. Only, it was slow. :D

Bad luck for Spanner in the pits. I think we'd be somewhere close at the end. :(

Grats to podys. I like this track, though I'd like to try it in a more forgiving car someday. :)

Good race that :)

Quali was a fun way to start, first half of race was better though. Got past Freq after he couldn't get the Viper around one of those tight turns, which couldn't have been easy all race. Then racing Busi for 30 minutes and really enjoyed how he would gain on certain parts only for me to eek out a little time at others (is that a sign of a good track?). Had a 2 second gap on Busi when I pitted but ended up losing two places again and it kinda made for a dull second half of race although chasing Freq was a little fun. Clearly my strategy let me down and I was reminded about something Jordan mentioned about McLaren, team Shark has a bank of staff and computers to sort strategy whilst team KC has Tudor working in a shed with an abacus  :)  

GTC gents were top drawer :) Thx all and congrats to Jon and Lazlow. Worth noting that six different cars made the top 6, top track and balancing I guess  :)

@ Tom: No harm done, where would we be without my obligatory spin and car damage in early stages!!??!!  ;D ;)  All you did was give me 25 seconds of repairs and a car whose forcefeedback vibrated like crazy for two whole laps, that explains why I couldn't keep pace anymore, lost about 1.5s per lap. No matter, track itself is still lots of fun, didn't mind I wasn't racing anyone (Dave was behind me but I knew with a limping car like mine it was just a question of time before the inevitable happened which it did, right in front of him at penultimate corner where I completely lost it (lap 17 or so), ruined some more body parts and front right tyre. Luckily it all happened right in front of the pits which were planned a lap later anyway so it was no biggie.


@ Jorgen: at the time you were behind me in the later stages of the race (just prior to your disco) - data showed you were one lap behind me so I let you unlap yourself - did you get and blue flag warnings? Was kind of funny, myself trying to catch Spanner (I was on fresh rubber) but you weren't fast enough to pull out a lead on me, so I was worried you'll get one blue flag too many and get a drive through.


Anyway, quali was so-so, should be at least 3/4 of a sec faster, but no matter, guys in front were aliens (except for Spanner :D ). What I did do AFTER quali ruined the race anyway (that's without other disasters :D ): I was watching the track temperature in quali and it went straight to the top, +12 degrees in 20 mins or so. (Dumb) Logic told me race will be the same so I acted accordingly and lowered the tyre pressure. Big, big, BIG mistake (was running medium/hard in race trim, quali on med-med), race tyres were sooooo cold. Fronts never reached more than 194kPa, rears were at 194-195 tops. Add plenty of broken aero parts for most of the race and thus even lower temperatures since I couldn't push to heat them up... classic catch 22 and highly frustrating.

Race engineer half-saved my day, she proposed med-med in second stint, we were even discussing soft-med but decided it would be too risky, fearing we'd fry left-front. In retrospective (medium rears were quite decent if not perfect in 2nd stint, and that's on "hard tyre" pressure, so you can imagine how underinflated hards were in the first stint:D)  we should have taken soft-med, I'm pretty sure it would last the distance.

Had a great setup to be honest but it was highly sensitive to any changes so we shouldn't have touched the original tyre pressure anyway... ::)

Live and learn.  :)

Great track, great race.  8)

GTCs - you're too polite.

Really enjoyed that until I lost concentration with 5 mins to go!
I was not catching the guy in front and was way ahead of the guy behind!
So I slung it in the wall and killed the engine! :)

Monsterously difficult track, spent a long time practicing just to be at least on par with the guys at the back!

Have changed my steering lock to 360 degrees and now gonna stick with the Morgan for the rest of the season so hopefully I will get better! :)

Don't hold your breath! :)  ;D

Really tough track & seems totally unsuited to my lack of driving style, but enjoyed it loads.

Tried out 6 different cars in the end. The Z4 was easiest, Viper was quickest but no way I could cope with the tyre wear. Just couldn't get the Porka lapping here having swapped to it in the last round & didn't really want to go back to the F430 that I started the season with. Settled on the F360 in the end, aware of it's freak 'spinning' problem.

Having spent hours & hours (& hours ::)) trying to get to grips with this track, I managed a PB in qually by over 2 secs  :o :drool: :lol: giving me 3rd GTC slot.

Race start went well, had gone with mediums as that seemed perfect for the temps. Was going well holding 3rd comfortably with Ade then gaining slowly. Simon had issues & had to pit & then I dueled with Ade for 10 laps before we pitted together.... & left the pits together too! :laugh:

Unfortunately, the track temp started dropping & my meds were getting colder & Ade's softs were now perfect. I couldn't stay with him any more & let him past & disappear off slowly. That was it really... I thought.

Ade started having engine probs with 10 to go & I guess his tyres then started suffering too. I managed to get the gap from 7 secs to 0 secs... then had my only spin of the race & he got away again. Sadly he was able to cruise to the line with out any further grief from me. Just one more lap might have done it  :-\

Well done podiums. Lazlow & his Z4 were too good on this track. :notworthy:

Great to see Team Oldie drivers locking out the top three spots in the GTC champ, even if I have lost my top spot (by one point ;)) after my 20% penalty for swapping cars again.

Nope, it just shows how the Lambo is way different to the other GT1's, good on corners, crap on straights lol


Top 8 GT1 finishers in 8 different cars how about that :)

Very Tough, track but I did enjoy I was in the mix with the drivers at back of the field.

I quit as I had something weird going on with the graphics, check this out:-

www.burtoner.com/gfxglitch1.JPG

Yeah, I can understand how having a Legends car keeping up with you in your rearview could be quite shocking/upsetting ;)

That track looks awesome! It looks like you're going over millions of speed bumps ;D

JPS, what did you do to him?!? :nono:   Might be handy for future antishrink situations...  :D

Bit of the McQueen magic, don't know if it works against Sharks though  ;D ;D

LOL

Too many quotes within quotes.

Feels like I'm falling deeper and deeper into my own mind.

Brain...fighting hard...to stop falling further....and further.

The darkness is coming.

Don't worry, it's only a short fall. :D :P :angel:

 :lol:

Edit: I hope I can reach that eluding 500 mph with Marcos at Road America...  :devil: