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Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:10	(25 mins)
Race:	20:35	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT2 or GT3 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.10.5.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics).
Weather: Changeable, seeded from real-world conditions.
Track: Silverstone ('Northampton') GP v1.0.0.2 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_silverstone))
Race Start Time: 14:00.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

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Dave, what's this change in the readme?: F360 *** engine braking?

Haven't decided yet on car choice, yet I also read the F430 has GT1 tyres, ain't that a huge advantage? :angel:

Awww shucks, must've left that in by mistake. It's not true, there wasn't a change.


That's the 997. It can't run on NGT tyres, they just melt.

No mention of that of the 997 in the readme: "Ferrari F430: GT1 mid-­‐engined tyres"

Though if it melts the tyres it might be better to redo the physics for the 997 on the 996 with slight improvements and the F430 on the 360 with slight improvements, but that's a bit off-topic :P

That's another mistake in the readme then - oops - but the physics files don't lie.

Server up & four of us on it (so far...) ;)

Seems the Filfront link does not work so please get it from the other two if you havent got it already.

Ive installed the file for the lobby fix but still cant get in ?? :(

Into the lobby or into the server? If the server list changes while trying to log in to the server you can end up trying to log into another server!


Going to be a struggle round here in the porsche, the tyre wear round here is quite high and the rears are overheating badly

Cant get in lobby

Ok finally in after a week of trying. ???

Sorry guys not going to be able to make this tonight.

Was planning on racing but am just too hungover. Have a good 'un 8)

lol.  :stupid: had 3 humulus lupulus products myself this afternoon. pity, silverstone rocks.

have a good one. :)

Damn this ADSL rubbish, reset 3 times in qualifying. Then lasts 77 mins of the 80 mins before chucking me off  >:(

Not a happy bunny  :'(

Unlucky Picnic. So glad I'm on VM Cable and not that ADSL rubbish.

My race was interesting with a fair bit of action for the first half and then very boring for the second stint.

Couldn't reach my off-line pace in qually, as only managed 1:47.8 or something after I managed very low 1:47s off-line.

The BMW was nice on low fuel, but with a tank full of fuel it was diabolical. In the race I was having to try and find ways to get the fronts to grip with the full tank, like weaving down the straights, but it wasn't helping much. Second stint it was like a completely different car, 1-1.5 seconds a lap faster with half a tank of fuel (and some damage repaired) and it was much less lairy too. If I'd known how much faster it was on half a tank I would have not filled the tank in the first place and done 2x 60 litre stints instead as I would have definately made the time up I'd lose from refueling for longer.

I was having to run low wing to gain speed down the straights. I think that compromised me most through Maggots and Beckets, but elsewhere it wasn't really noticable.

Well done to the podium.

Thats it, the porker sucks!!! >:( It would seriuosly get out dragged by an asmatic donkey on the straights! Not a good race really, decided to go long first stint, only to find that hard/hard only last 40 mins anyway, so plans to run med/med for last 25 mins scuppered, and the fact that for the second time this season, the tean KC fuel man was having a wee or something when I came in, so no fuel was added at stop. Then get stop/go for speeding in pitlane, only for my pit to be occupied by someone elses BMW when I came back in, so another 40 secs lost there. When are we going back to sprints, cause pitstops are really  :censored: me off!!! Nice dice for last few mins with Legzy, as I had to short shift everywhere to save fuel, him & Blunder were all over me, nice driving guys. Oh well, back to my trusty Aston for next week. Laters guys.

You have to remember to request pit stops (even for stop and gos) so you can tell if someone is in your box. If the blue light won't come on then you shouldn't come in.

Not good Pete  :-X

Sorry for tap on warm up lap JR. It looks like you caught Dan and I out somehow, just a shame it took Dan off (maybe we are never destined to race each other at Silverstone Dan :-[) Totally our fault for sleeping of course and hope it didn't damage your car.

Quite race really and highlights were meeting GT3, who were excellent, and Stew/Legzy at end. Legzy, less chat and more driving next time ;). Congrats to Stew on that one I think.

Congrats JR, Gazza and GT3 fellas.

This track really shows the 360 GTC can't keep up with all those add on cars.

That's a bit of a pitty, on the other hand I had a challenge in front of me.

Started 10th I think, just fueled the car up to 100L, seen others do that stratey before with great succes :)
It drove pretty horrible but not that bad. H@L9000 did the same strategy I think cause when I pitted one lap later we drove out side by side, while at first I was still close chasing him. Spanner was suddenly like 10 seconds behind insted of in front.

The strategy works, but it gave me a pretty boring race. Hard to keep up with the guys in front, it's like the average F1 race, overtaking in the pit :P

Then at one of the last laps my tyres were so horrible and my times were dropping hard, so Spanner could get me on the straight ;)

Overall pretty happy with an almost clean race, only 1 off moment and no spinning :P


ps: I was suprised the race ended at lap 43 of 48, guess it does stop at 80 minutes :)

Dunno how I could catch you out, as that was a known slow corner, even in a formation lap it requirs braking. I checked the replay and don't see it as I've done anything weird. If you do you can send a report.

Terrible luck for Picnic, he was going to win that by miles. :'(

I thought I was going to struggle a bit after I missed all my pre-race setup time with a busted HomePlug (bah! technology! :taz:).

Sure enough I qualified dead last, and slowly but surely the cars ahead eased away.

I can't now remember whether Lazlow fell off before or after the stop, but having failed to catch API despite the Porka's customary lengthy stop, I was having to push a fair bit to keep the gap back to Lazlow to around 10 seconds. This wasn't helped by 57GoldTop's Fezza, which was singularly unable to lap me and pull away, and I was losing so much time that when the gap behind was down to about 6, and the opportunity presented itself courtesy of another car lapping the both of us, I repassed him and proceeded to pulll away :angel: ;D and then Lazlow was out anyway. ::) :-\

In the last 10 minutes I suddenly started gaining on API again, depsite a front left which must've looked like it'd been through a combine harvester. The gap was dropping, dropping, dropping... then Picnic was gone :( and instead of a battle for 2nd, the class win was tantalisingly close. The gap kept dropping, and whilst I was low on fuel, I had enough for one more lap... but it wasn't enough. ::) :D

As I said, totally our fault JR. Sure you didn't do anything odd but we just cocked up, at least I did anyways. Or, perhaps I'm just faster through that corner  ;)

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090913%20U10LE/index.html)

Decided on a splash&dash strategy which would have worked out nicely if it wasn't for those pesky pitmen. Somehow they didn't put in enough fuel and I had to come in again 2 laps later losing a handful of places :(

Had some nice battles with Blunder and Matt and a few comedy moments with Dave :) Hope I didn't distract you too much.

Congrats to podies.

Yep, same strategy. ;D

I knew I had to apply the pressure before you got some temp in your tyres after that pit stop. We had a nice chase there. :)

I was doing OK to start with until I lost it on the S/F straight following Simon. I was distracted by him trying to warm his tyres up. ::) Dipped the left tyres onto the grass and spun because I kept the power fully down like a numpty. :'(

Nice chase with Jimmie and a few other after that. :)

Well done podiums. Gazza gets 3rd. Nice. Go Team. ;D

No i didnt get caught out by you two,  Just had one of them weird low rev spins on cold tires. ::)  Wasnt sure what the regs were regarding getting back into position so just slotted in behind Simon.   Legzy was the only one kind enough to let me go back past...Cheers mate ;)

First of all, sorry to Mr. Blunder for a contact in the pits. I just finished with the pitstop and your stall was directly in front. You were outside my view and I didn't see you come in until contact. ::) Saw you stopped a bit out of position and I hope your crew didn't object. :)

@Stewprovo: thought you were gonna take the F430? I found the porker exquisite and refreshing after grappling with first Gallardo and then Esperante. I had a constant feeling I'm not using the car's potential and that I could go faster. Well, I guess that's true, it takes JonM to put the car on the limit... :)  

After a first few laps the race was rather uneventful. Seems like F1, if there's no mistake / disco / freeze the only overtaking goes on in the pits. :P

@Shark: saw Legzy flinged over the track in front of you. I bet you flinched like you saw a giant hornet comming at you. :lol:  

Good job with the Gallardo, boyz. I never could get that car that fast. :)

Bad luck for Pete. :-\

First few laps of this race were very exciting  :o  Made a mistake at the first corner on lap 1 which gave Simon a run on me and he got past me down the hanger straight. Got myself back together and started closing him down. He went a little wide after the bridge and i made a move down the inside, there was slight contact but i think it was ok? (havnt seen replay yet). Then i managed to close on TT, my car felt great and i could really push it. Was on TT's bumper for quite a few laps and we had a good dice untill he lost it at Stowe spinning very close to the front of my car  :o

Managed to pull away and at the pit stop i chose not to change rear tyres and put new softs on front, this ruined the balance of my car and i had terrible oversteer everywhere so it was quite a job just keeping it on the road. TT was catching me but just had enough gap from the pit stop to keep 3rd.

That was my 100th race here so was really happy with a podium  8)

Grats Jeff & SBG

With hindsight, I should have. In the corners, be it slow or fast, the 997 is ok, but when, for instance, I needed Dave in the GT3 350Z to have a big lift on the straight  :wheelchair: so I could get by, then surely something is not right. I know the classes are fairly close speed wise, but I could only just gain on most cars on the straights, including the GT3's. It just seems to lack a bit of grunt compared to everything else. I want to stay with it as I really do like the way it drives, but whats the point, when you make up a fair bit of ground in the corners, only to lose it all on the straights. I know thats what the balancing was all about, but I found that I was taking more risks going passed people under the brakes, and risking collisions in the process. I suppose the other solution would be to drop into the GT3 Cup 996, but that would leave me no excuses for my carp driving ;D . As for the pits, Simon has put me in the picture on that one, in my red mist moment, I forgot to request the stop for my stop/go, so all my own doing that one :(

 :P  You helped me a bit. ;)  But either way, you were faster and would pass sooner or later, so it doesn't really matter.  :)

Have to say I only vaguely remember that. Wasn't he behind me at the time? I really can't remember. :-\


Racing incident. Both racing hard at the time.


Don't think anything is wrong tbh. I needed Z3Ms to lift off down the straights for every race so far this season. Even in the M3 with low wing it wasn't that much faster than the Z3M in a straight line (just a lot faster in the corners). It's easy to say a car is slow in a straight line but it can have a lot to do with exit speed and wing settings too, so persevere.

I must admit I'd like to try the Porker, but I have no idea how to drive them properly or set them up. Should they be stiff at the front or back or what and how do you set up the brakes so that you don't get "the Jonzo effect" as I like to term it (1 wheel smoking into every corner ;)).

Regards your straight line speed just a thought, but have you checked your pedals lately? I had a similar problem with straight line speed last night but put it down to my usual slow pace. Spanner and sbg gave me a HU that my lights were flickering and sure enough when I checked my controller settings there was visible flickering on the brake bar/meter. Got round it by putting a few % deadzone on my brake. Took a couple of scruffy laps around Silvers and I was almost a second quicker per lap :o

Going to try to clean the pots up, but if that doesn't work it looks like getting a G25 while they're on offer.

Had a shocking qually session where it just wasn't coming together for me. Managed to be 0.55 up after two sectors on my very final lap of qually, but unfortunately got stuck behind Dave Gymer through that last slow sector & missed out on improving my time. Just one of those things, but actually had quite an impact on my evening. Assuming I'd carried or improved that advantage through & set a faster lap time, I'd have started ahead of Simon Gymer. Unfortunately (yet very enjoyable) it meant I was to spend the first six laps being held up everywhere by Shark's Bus & Minton (also trying to get past him). I managed to slip past Dan when he went wide (having missed two opportunities already) & a lap later I had Simon set up perfectly as I got the power down way earlier then he could & for half a second I was up to 5th. That was until my inside wheel (sadly now touching a kerb) lost all traction & I got catapulted across the track & Simon's nose & into the wall. >:(
I limped my damaged & punctured car round half the track to the pits & repaired all. Unfortunately picking up a stop/go for speeding at pit entry (cars with punctures don't brake well ;)). Did a lap & served my penalty. Exited the pits 10yards in-front of Simon, but two laps down & in 20th.
Gradually pulled away from Simon (& the blue flags I got for the 1st lap! :angel:) & set about first unlapping myself from 19th place man Dave & then trying to get through the GT3's & hopefully do enough to earn some GT2 points.

With six minutes to go, I caught team mate Blunder & after a brief but edge of the seat fight for a few corners I passed & got into the point scoring positions (11th) & with Stewprovo in 10th just 1 sec away. My tyres were shot but having come this far I couldn't help but continue pushing.

I was immediately on Stew's rear bumper. Then I just took a look up his inside & ...... 'whoops, there goes my braking point!' & I slap on the brakes, turn the wheel in, catch a bump & the car is sideways :o :o & my car literally went with both front wheels at 90 degrees running along the kerb & it settled perfectly as it hit the apex. So I accelerated away with Stew hot on my heels (sorry about that  :angel:). Stew then pulled off the most daring/funny overtake I've seen & held it himself 8) & I then went just off trying too hard to get the place back with adrenaline pumping hard! Had to get past Blunder again & had one last chance to pass Stew but like an over excited fool I span myself, nudging Blunder as he then came past (sorry buddy). With one lap to go, I caught Blunder again & this time passed as his back end twitched out on him.

Disappointed I didn't finish in the top 5 where I think I probably should have, but what an immense race! Nice one. :yes:

Only two F430's last night, compared to the six, seven & eight's that we normally see on the grid. Balancing must have done something good :)

That was the most fun I think I've had all season, we were swapping mad but clean overtakes for pretty much a lap, and you still wouldn't leave me alone ;D, I then realised that you couldn't tell I was running out of gas. Hope we get to repeat soon, only maybe a bit further up the grid. Nice driving mate :thumbup2:

As this really wasn't ringing too many bells, I went to look at the replay.

You had as you say got onto the curb on the inside, but I couldn't see you, I just knew you were there somewhere. The curb then spat you around and you speared past Dan's nose (not mine) behind me. I presumably saw this in the mirror and thought, "phew some respite". ;D

I thought I would remember your buzzing hornet spear past my nose, so it makes sense now as it wasn't me! ;D

Just about avoided you there Legzy!

Were you running more than 1 rear wing? 'Cause I wasn't. ;)

TT didn't seem to have a problem passing me in the 997 - in fact, the 997 appeared to be able to brake crazy late for Vale Corner too! :o

  It must be a set-up thing then. The 997 is very good on the brakes, hence the overtakes I had with Legzy at the end. It does really eat tyres tho, is that normal? I need to get a 997 set-up from TT as well as the 430 one I got from him, then didn't use.

Did i?? i really didnt think i touched you, really sorry if i did, i would of waited if i thought i had hit you. I will check replay later tonight.

Don't worry, my man. As I said, you would have passed sooner or later. :)

Gawd, i was out of practise for that one! ended up sweating buckets through that with the concentration, well, other than the odd two or three laps lol.

Pretty happy with qually, hadnt been able to get into the 48's since the first run on thursday night and felt i could have gone faster but ran out of time and caught a GT3 which put me off.

In the race I was just managing to stay with the group ahead watching Shark defending from everyone with cars strewn along the circuit! After Legzy fell off and H@L it was left to me and after a few laps tempted to chuck it up the inside at priory as Shark was taking a rather wide but slow line but thought better of it until he went a bit too wide and i managed to get up the inside in brooklands. But i was trying to give you plenty of room around the outside and took a rather tight line, got on the kurb and spun out.  :-[

Then spun out on the next lap while trying to explain it on TS :-[ :-[ I'll blame it on Oily being there ;)
So ended up a bit further back than i wanted and after the stop was on a mission to try and get back up there.

Not sure about people moaning about the 997, one of the nicest cars to drive that can turn-in nicely and get the power done nicely! in this instance with the GT3's your only going to win through the corners as straightline speed isnt that far off.