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Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:10	(25 mins)
Race:	20:35	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or GTC from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.10.5.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics).
Weather: Changeable, seeded from real-world conditions.
Track: Road America v1.0.1.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_roadamerica).
Race Start Time: 14:00.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

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Kingdom for Murcielago setup.

I googled the layout and it looks like the typical boring American circuit, but apparently I'm wrong? ;)

TOTALLY WRONG... :drool: :drool:

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If you like it that much, try this event, you can even race the Spyker for 6 hours at Road America ;D

http://forum.racedepartment.com/rd-le-mans-series/

I thought this to be a "Marcos" race, but I might be wrong. :-\  I'm slower than in a Ford GT in the last season. :(

Think you read my sentence wrong :P I haven't even seen nor driven the track except the layout which seems to be made with a ruler :D

I already have a hard time driving 80 minutes though, brave men which can drive for 6 hours straight :o

I suspect you are losing time trying to grapple that thing through those fast corners TT :'( I can't get complain as the MC12 feels great through them and I'm quite looking forward to this.

I think you're right, sbg. :-\  Still, when I floor it... 8)

Aston feels ok round here, nice and stable, but still only in mid 2:03's. Need lots more praccy.

Got my new HP LP2475w for this. It's shiney  8)

OK, now I've done some online laps, things are not so rosey. I now have chronic understeer at every corner, and can only do mid 2:05's with the cleanest of laps. I know it's a set-up issue, but I don't know how to dial it out, can anyone help? :helpsmilie: :stupid:

LOL. Same here, although I'm in a Lambo.  ;D

try soft-medium or medium-hard tyre combo.

softer front ARB.

very low diff (5-10%).

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@ Lambo fahrers, what wing settings r u guys using?

@FreQ: good buy.

Cheers mate, will try tonight.

Harder rear springs. You can do that easily - if you're not driving the Marcos. ;)
I always set harder rear springs than front in the F430 and it worked great at entrance and exit. :) Dunno how's this for Aston.
Also higher rear ride-hight might help.

I think I ran with 2-6 last time around here. Although if you wanted to have a healthy top speed to compete with the rest in the straights you would need 1-1 :D


Before the last carpack adjustements I though the MC12 was the best car, now with those slight changes where it only has been improved... I think it's gonna dominate in the good hands, i.e. driven by sbg for example ;)

If you have understeer while accelerating out of the corner reduce power from diff.
If you have understeer in general in a fast corner (120km/u+) (part or full throttle) reduce rear wing.
If you have understeer in a slow corner increase rear ARB.
Or you encounter global understeer, soften front or harden rear springs.

If it ain't any of those situations it's in the dampener (fast/slow bump/rebound etc.) stuff, but I always have to look up those things on what they do :P
Handy guide which generally helps your setup: http://www.langamers.it/gtr/Guida_setup_GTR/Guida_GTR2.pdf

Many setup changes depend on the car and the way that you drive I think.

In the Viper GT1, I am doing OK so far by tweaking a setup for the F550 that I have. High 2.01 ish so far for race pace but not practised on line yet. Under 2 mins is Alien time, count me out of that. ;D

I have a higher than usual front ARB to help turn in. Lower than usual rear wing. Currently using 4. I have a lower than usual power in the diff and higher than usual coast in the diff. There are some high speed coasting moments on this track so a higher than usual coast in the diff seems to help with stability there.

I am having an issue with the gear box though. 6th gear is only just long enough for this track but I still have to rev the nuts off it with 6th gear set as long as it will go. This is killing the engine a bit. 6th gear would not be long enough for Le Mans in the Viper, I am sure. :'(

Am I missing something? Or is that it for 6th gear in the Viper? I have tried Two different Vipers and they seems to have the same issue.

That only makes it understeer more ;)


Same problem which is indeed weird, it's even worst at Monza, surely that can't be right.

I see. Must be a combination of the other settings and a high front ARB. Or maybe the way that I drive. The car seemed more responsive on turn in with a higher front ARB. On this track anyway.


Nasty! :'( I was really looking forward to trying the Viper out at Le Mans some time as well. :(

That is correct, stiffer ARB makes it more responsive, but normally it prevents weighttransfer and causes understeer.

It actually transfers more weight rather than less, but this causes understeer as the extra-unloaded inside tyre grips less and the over-loaded outside tyre cannot compensate.

Ah okay, I thought less weight would get transfered over the outside wheel with stiffer ARB, making it less efficient, as the otuside wheel does moest of the steering.

Oh well, as long as I get the stiff ARB front = understeer right :D

Yes, it confused me big time at first! The way to think about it is that as the car rolls, the compression of the suspension on the outside wheel forces the anti-roll bar to pick up the inside wheel to keep it at the same level as the outside wheel. The outside wheel is the one which carries this weight, hence the transfer from inside to outside.

Very interesting. Thanks guys. :)

This makes sense now. I seemed faster with VERY high front ARB at Monza, this must work because the corners are mainly chicanes.

At Road America, my higher front ARB is helping on the slow/short corners but probably not so much on the fast/long corners then? Higher front ARB seems to be better overall so far. The car also 'feels' much better with higher front ARB.

For the record: normal front ARB for me is about 120 - 130. The higher setting I am using at Road America is 160. At Monza I use about 230. I (almost) always drive front engine cars which probably makes a difference to optimal ARB settings.

I also use high and stiff settings, but also at the rear, I have rear ARB at 100.

Aaaaaah, tech talk, good one too. Cool.  8)

Harder front (or rear) ARB also helps transfering weight much faster thus makes the car more responsive when changing direction, which is why we all go for high front ARB at Monza. In effect - car's easier to slide around, soft ARBs make it grip like crazy but are hard to control once grip decides to let go (PITA on this track if front ARB is hard and rear is relatively soft).

Hard ARB comes handy in that 5th gear fast right kink at the back semi-straight, doesn't it? I must admit this track is very hard to dial in setup wise (or learn, first time on this track :D ), never had so many problems with setup as here, very unpredictable in responding to setup changes, main theme is of course complete understeer-o-rama. It feels soooo lazy all the time and theeeen... tries to stab you in the back with fast snap oversteer.  ???

Local track designer hates race engineers IMHO.  ;D

Good point on the high coast diff (same part of the track too! :D ), will try that. Tinkered around with it few days ago but had too much wheelspin going on power, car was too nervous. That can be fixed though.

Low slow bump settings helped a bit too, made the car a bit more stable during braking, but going too low ruined weight transfer once again.

Medium-Hards or what? M-M or S-M get fried in no time (harder springs and ARB do the damage - fast).

Anyway, slow in fast out wins the day, that much I've gathered so far.  ;D And that looooong right hander in 3rd/4th... sweeeeet. Very technical track through and through to be honest. And still a mistery atm.

Oh yeah, to all you sub 2 mins in race pace - stop practicing! Better yet, anyone below 2.03  - stop practicing. ;D

Looks like you and me again, H@l. :)
Tried lots of combos here, high arb, low springs; low arbs, high springs; everything in between. ;D Marcos is a bit special here as it doesn't like trailbraking - as soon as you brake and turn at the same time it wants to buck. Found out I have to have springs and front arb set quite hard in front to support and mild the front weight transfer. Also, when I had rear arb low any twitch with the wheel while braking sends the car spinning - I had to set rear arb a bit higher (not too high, mind you :D ). Marcos with the high rear arb = suicide. It spins in 5th. :P

I like this track big time and also the hard time setting the car. 8)  Though Ford GT is much easier to set than Marcos. :P  Looking forward to the race. :clap:

No GTC times yet so to start the ball rolling: mid 2:13s in race trim. Z4 feels nice and quick, but I found getting the optimal gear settings tricky.

I reckon it should be a good car/track mix here, with plenty of long drags for the GT1 guys to make passes without GTCs having to compromise.

Another one to add to my growing list of favourite tracks :)

So, no pressure then  ;) Hopefully we get same the same four/five, more would be welcome, on the same pace cause last time out was a cracker. Like the track, especially seat of pants fast right handers.

The road is very spangly on some areas of this track for me, just before T2 especially. Its a little offputting so is there anyways to tone it down?

I'm doing a rain dance!

And, no, you can't have a video! :P

I find having a car 0,5mm above minimum height (front, rear 1,5 above minimum) + front 0.6 and rear 1.3-1.4 packers do the trick. A bit higher car also helps in attacking the curbs, minimum height is too risky, front end bites the curb and into the gravel you go. T2 - my bet is (check telemetry) u're scraping the floor with the front part of the car, not the rear.

What does a 'packer' do? I always have it set at the default minimum (or one click above that), as I have no idea what effect it has on the car? ???

The faster you go the more springs compress.
Sooner or later car starts to bottom out.
Packer's a rubbery thingie put on top of the spring, preventing it to compress to the max (actually, spring can still compress to the max, but ride height isn't compromised since packer can't be compressed and that ensures desired minimal ride height).

Keep in mind once you're riding on packers springs aren't doing their job anymore (since they're compressed to the max) and that makes the car ride on (very hard) packer itself. What you want is the least amount of packers possible. Ah the joys of compromise. :D

Car on packers= twitchy car to say the least - you'll recognize it in a following situation: you enter a very fast corner, start accelerating and once you reach the speed where spring compresses to the max packers kick in. That's when your front end (or rear, depends where the spring reached its limit) tends to suddenly snap/lose grip. Reason is simple - you went from a soft sprung (springs) to very hard sprung car (packers).

Effect is much more noticeable in F1 racing (where aero downforce does it job much more thoroughly than on this washing machines of ours).

Also: the lighter you are the less you need them (obviously), so you can ignore sparks from under your car if they only happen for first few laps only - before you burn enough fuel.

Anyway, you do not want to bottom out, especially under braking (front packers, soft springs, heavy load on full fuel, for instance. T2 @ Road America). Same goes for climb towards S/F straight, there's two two bottom-out parts right there (mostly on the left IIRC).

If I felt my car was bottoming out, I always just raised the ride height. So would putting packers in be better/same/worse?

(& thanks :))

Well... depends. Welcome to the world of trial&error.  ;D

In principle you want to ride as low as possible, hence the packers. Fast moving air below your car is where the grip comes from (at high speeds), packers prevent scraping the floor.

But packers will ruin your day on very high speed corners (they're too hard and you'll bounce off the track if it's bumpy).

Being too low (packers or no packers) will result in plowing into kerbs and that's a no-no.

You can also use them if telemetry shows your car gets too low at the rear end while in 6th gear. Rear end must ALWAYS stay higher than the front end, if not - think if u ever got a feeling you're riding a powerboat down the straight in Monza - steering becomes very light and lazy - that's when front end was in effect higher than the rear. Big no-no. Slows you down to begin with (car's gulping air at the front end) and, more importantly, completely ruins the balance of the car (especially when u eventually slow down and front end bites again).


Black art, this setup stuff. I love it. :)

A few of us starting to gather on the server... :)


Got down to 2:14.0, but a 13.2 or better is just sat waiting for me  ::)

I have a cure for this. I think we used it at Zandvoort in GTL or something similar. Anyway, it worked for me. Just unzip to your Roadamerica folder.

http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157810&highlight=sparkly

It's the nosparky zip

what times are you fast gt1 boys doing?

i managed 2:01s and 2':02s with race fuel and meds...any good ?  JonM was my only other benchmark on the server...yeah right! :P Not sure if he was on qual or race fuel ?

Hope to make this one after a several week lay off from GTR2. Will probably be driving the splendid looking Legends Maserati  8)

Well, after some set-up genius from SBG, I'm now happily into the low 2:02's in race trim, so I'm happy with that, should be a fun mid pack battle for me, just been online with Gazza, and he's running low 2:01's!!! Nice tracl though.

Managed to get my time down to a 2:09.3 in the Z4

Yay!!! Low 2:01's in race set-up, looking forward to a possible top 10 tomorrow.

Hoping for race pace of 1-59 to 2-00's and 1-57 something for qually

Sigh.

Jon, your setup... worked, kind of (i.e. can do a lap without visiting kitty litter :D ). Thx. :)

Above mentioned times are still... depressing.

Btw, do we have the Algarve track? Looks great and really technical. :)

Think i've only seen it for rFactor.


Struggling a bit round here, difficulty stopping the car and end up locking up and losing the front into the corners :( Managed a 2.02 eventually with 40-50L in it but with full tanks i'm a few secs off.

I can't see the server in the lobby. Can anybody else?

Nor me. I'll give Picnic a call.

Something very odd going on on the box - hopefully the server is now up, but I've had to shut all the others down to get there... ???

hope the GT1 racing is as fierce as it was in the Algarve round of the FIA GT today  8) did you see it? great last lap

Piece of advice, don't drive the F360 Modena.

Carp qually session, carp race. Ended up on my hood in the middle of the track with Race leader JonM bearing down on me.... pressed esc to not ruin his race too (& put an end to my misery  :'( :( >:()

Championship over for me now (though it would have been hard to beat Jim in his Z4 anyway, well done mate :)).

Epic race! :D

At first I was in doubt if I would join the race cause I was still learning the track (around 20 laps of practise), but decided to have a go and just go for a steady pace fueled up with 100L.

Had a little battle with TrueTom in the beginning then I lost him a while for a bit, then later I passed 3 guys in an accident/off-moment.
TT was chasing me later on and I dived into the pit at lap 20. The lap before pitting, I was adjusting the amount of fuel cause I saw that I had 25L of fuel left, so adjusted the amount of fuel to be fueled up to 75L.
Totally forgetting that I still had to finish this lap (and thus miscalculated my fuel amount).

After pitting I gained 2 places and was chasing Gazza49er. After a couple of laps I came to a sad conclusion that I didn't have enough fuel in ::)
Had to save around 6L... oops :-[
Anyway I went hypermyling and saw that TT and SBG (I think) weren't gaining any time on me (they were even losing a bit ~15 sec behind), they were obviously fighting for position so I was in a good position now hehe :laugh:

Though with around 6 or 7 laps to go TT won the fight and suddenly was closing the gap with 1,5 sec a lap. Couldn't do anything about it, so just shortshifted on and was going to take the loss. With 2 laps to go I saw I wasn't going to make it (2L short) so had to drove really slowly so JonM would lap me and I could finish the race ;)

ps: sorry for some backmarkers that I wasn't overtaking with the expected speed you guys had in mind (lead to some awkward situations :D)

Was going to try some new cars with the car pack changes, but ended up having no time at all. Turned up at the end of practice and had to take the Morgan again as something familiar. Took my Suzuka setup and took more wing off (2-5) and after a few qually laps made some other important changes.

I know the track quite well, but I didn't exactly know how to drive this version. Where could be fast in the corner, when to turn in, where to brake etc. Setup was ok everywhere except the carossel and the kink where the Morgan showed it's big weakness (no front end grip). You end up having to drive the car in a certain way to use the nice rear end grip.

I think I qualified 3rd in GTC with a 2:12.something? On lap 1 though I got a great run on API in his Mosler and was up into 2nd and away. Medium tyres and fuel tank of fuel (only 85litres now :'() saw me doing race pace same as qualifying, maybe a little quicker on the odd lap. Slowly pulled away from the guys behind whilst Lazlow shot off into the distance in the BMW.

Lap times were consistent even on worn rubber so at half distance I decided to switch strategy and come in with only 20 minutes left. Did that and was in the pits with about 18 minutes to go, switched to soft tyres and put enough fuel in to get to the end + 1 lap. The softs and lower fuel were amazing. The car was so much faster I dropped into the 2:10s for the first time and then into the 2:09s, showing how fast I could have gone in qually had I done any practice.

Unfortunately it wasn't enough to beat Lazlow as he was still quicker than me and when I came out of the pits 15 seconds behind him I knew it was game over really. I didn't really have any GTCs to race the whole race and it was so hard keeping concentration even on the straights where my car had a tendancy to wander around a bit. Overall a pretty dull race then, but a happily accepted 2nd place behind the deserved winner Lazlow and Prof behind me picking up a podium place meaning a 2, 3 for the team in GTC. :)

Had some scarey moments as GT1s passed me in some very scarey and unexpected places, like the carossel, the kink and the evil 4th gear right hander half way round the track. Still no contact and it gave me some excitement in the race whenever I got lapped by one of the GT1s. :) As always the total opposite of pleasure to see TrueToms butt ugly Marcos lap me, but it only happend twice I think so I didn't have to stare it for too long. ;)

Good race for me. Qually went well and then the race was just a matter of keeping a decent pace going through the race. Looked like some great battles behind at the start but that helped give me a nice gap early on. Car handled great. Nice race all, well done podiums 8)

Great race, love that track. ;D

I had TT closing down on me in the first flying lap, but I managed to hold him off. :)

I had a good fight with Busi after he made a mistake that allowed me to pass. However, I lost control at one point and was about to spin when Busi saved me. LOL. Cheers mate. I hope you had no damage from that, sorry if so. I was fine. ;D

I had a good fight with SBG for a while as well. He was faster overall but I drove as defensively as I could in an attempt to maintain track position. I seemed to gain a good few seconds over him in the pit stop. Not sure how that happened?

Well done podiums. :)

another dismal showing for me. I had the pace for a top 10 finish but everytime i got further up the grid, i then had an off and lost valuable chunks of seconds each time. Happened about 4 or 5 times  ::) But fortunately others around me seemed to be suffering the same and the gap stayed relatively marginal for first half of race.

Stayed out longer on first stint than others thinking i would gain some time but when i emerged from my own stop i found myself 45 seconds behind the cars in front ...what the?  ??? Decided to retire as nobody to race with such a ridiculous gap. How the hell did i lose so much time pitting? i cant believe you guys only swapped tyres or just put fuel in etc to make up time. I was stationary for 70 secs for full fuel and new boots. Seemed to take for ever to put 42mins worth of fuel in.

Great track but can be very frustrating in some of the tighter corners.

Congrats to winners.

Can't believe I got 9th there :laugh: no pace in qually, made a last minute change to run lowest wing both ends, improved my qually time a load but it turned out to be a big mistake as I kept running off in the fast corners, doubly so once the front left reach wear 10.

Made up about 4 places in the pit stops thanks to a very slick stop but knew some would be catching me fast in the second half.

White knuckle ending with Spanner homing in on me like a radioactive cruise missile during the last 10 minutes!

Very good driving from the GTCs, perhaps too generous at times. Sorry about sucking you off into the gravel API. ::)

Good race. :)

Qualifying session went well. I set my new PB and achieved the second place in the grid. Awesome lap Lazlow! :o The race was going well until my screen got frozen for about 20(?) secs. After that I had to switch to the desktop to get the textures work right. So I lost about 30 secs in that incident. Sorry if someone did hit to my frozen car! :-\ After that I just tried to drive as fast as I could and gain few positions if possible. I climbed as high as 4th position which was a big surprise for me!

Well done Lazlow and Jon. Go Team Oldie!  :)

No problem Dave.  :)

A consistent race for me and a rare podium for me if Shark has counted correctly.

I lost a place to Legzy in the early laps when I was slowed by a struggling GT1 which could pass me on the straights and then have problems in the corners. I was able to follow Legzy and ragained the place when he fell foul of the madly fast right kink.
After that I spent the race watching the other GTC podium people drive away from me (Great pace Lazlow and Shark) whilst driving away from the rest of the GTCs. I feared my pit stop would lose me places (lots of fuel and front tyres) but instead the gaps just grew and it was a case of getting safely to the end and avoiding the GT1 lappers (good driving folks).

Well done to the podiums and a good evening for Team Shark with four out of six podium places  :)

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090920%20U10UE/index.html)

That was epic!! Quite sure the best I've ever had here :o ;D ;D

Firstly a couple of little "sorries" to Gazza for the tap (it was really difficult to follow your slightly warping car all the time, hence the tap cause it didn't even look like I touched you, soz anyway) and sbg for trying a desperate overtake in Turn 3 where I ran off and you probably lost a second or two trying to avoid me lol

But man, an incredible race for the whole distance! :D First laps I kept my 4th position and saw how FreQ and sbg were REALLY battling it out for 2nd, I could only get close due to my poor top speed, but there was a moment we were 3 abbreast! Watch second 825 in replay :laugh:

I did a couple of little mistakes and I was behind H@L and Gazza, great battles too. Ginsters also lost ground with a mistake and in the pits I think.

After the pitstops I was up to 3rd with FreQ 14 seconds ahead of me. I thought there was no chance to even get close to him, but I started a sequence of qualifying laps in the high 1:59's and I kept getting close to him until I was right behind.

Now overtaking a Viper in a Lambo is a challenge already, but doing it to FreQ in a track like Road America... looked impossible! After a mistake I got past but he got me back in the main straight. Another mistake and I could get past in the second to last lap, but I had to defend for the next 2 or 3 straights where he was taking like 100 metres on me :o luckily I kept my nerve and ended ahead in 2nd. Jon was unstoppable today :)

Grats winners and podiums! A race to remember!

Gutted

Good race though. Can't believe I passed SBG on lap 1 and we all had some fun for quite a few laps. Was really happy after the stops but couldn't stop Busi closing in. I thought I was in real trouble after practising yesterday and being well off my Lister pace, so 3rd in hindsight isn't so bad.

Laters peeps

Glad my engine blew - just don't enjoy this track. Can't get any sort of setup to work or get a feel for a decent lap. Hate the place.

First things first:
Huge apologize to Mr. Oily - as I said in pm I really don't know what happened there, surely the whole thing wasn't in the league of the result. :( Will do a report when I get home today and sort the thing out properly. :(
Another one: sbg. Saw a gap between you and Shark, never felt the contact. When you disapeared I said ???

@ Jimmie: it's true I was gaining a lot in the last laps, though it's not easy to overtake with Marcos - sbg can say a bit about that ::) I made 3 mistakes in 3 attempts and looked like a rookie all the way. Marcos needs the whole track to drive, though I must say I'm beginning to see what needs to be set to make it do it my way. That said, I might have caught up with you Jimmie, but overtaking is another matter. Your going off made it easy for me. ;)

@ Shark: fortunately I drive from the roof position and that has many impacts - for instance:
- I don't have to watch my ugly butt (goes for RL as well :D)
- actually see a bit in front despite that hump the car has on the hood :P
- the sound is still the best there is 8)

Love the car and I hope I proved it can be made a viable choice with the proper motivation. Hope to get some aliens out of the "I always drive the same car and win" shell. ;)  I myself am proud of driving every season with a different car. 8)  Isn't that the sole purpose of getting a mod in, to try something new?  :dots: Those that have less spare time, please ignore this comment... ;)

About the race: qualified 9th with more than 0,5 sec slower than my pb. Doesn't matter as my pb (a bit over 2 min) would set me there somewhere as well. Well, maybe a bit closer to H@l, though the Viper proved to be much better in the race - or maybe H@l did. ;) Well done, me boy. :thumbup1:
Race was ok-ish, if I don't count the two contacts. :( Car was no more difficult than usual :P and was lovely to see it catch others down the straights. I'm afraid the remaining tracks will be less suited for it, so my current third place overall will be a forgetted flash in the history. Oh... :wub:

GTCs were superb. 8)

   

Also  :-[

That promised so much and was fantastic fun for 10 mins. Great dice with Freq and Busi, then Busi tried a pass that went slightly wrong, I got some breathing space but then made a slight mistake through fastest right hander chasing Freq again. Effectively race over as the car was damaged and ruddy awful from that point on.

Thanks for the apology TT and no worries, tis a shame I haven't got another one from elsewhere though. Congrats to the Jon and GTC were gents, again  :)

The last couple of laps my tyres were cold (60C) and brakes as well so I had lots of small off moments missing the apex :D
I wouldn't be able to defend your attack since I was really cruising it hoping to make the finish, but in the end, had to wait in the last lap anyway for JonM to lap me :)


Definitely agree with that, it ain't fun to drive alone a whole race (without having fought for it).
Was fun seeing you struggle through the corners especially that very long one. Yet overtaking was almost impossible because it would blast away on the straights :)
The Marcos is indeed real fun to drive, though I'm a cockpit view driver, so I don't see anything outside in that car really (even when removing the interior window banner with an invisible one... :o)

Decent quali with a close to pb put me a couple of places up the grid. Legzy got me down the straight into T3 and then proceeded to pull away. Had an epic battle with Blunder in the Morgan. He seemed to have me on the straights and I made ground through the corners and we changed position several times throughout the race. Great racing mate :) I made up time in the pits but with a couple of laps remaining I did a Lewis exiting T2 which put me right at the back.

KC pitcrew behaved themselves tonight. My fuel strategy was spot on as the Z4 gulped it's last sip crossing the line.

Congrats to both podies.

Agreed. I crossed the line with 3 litres in the tank.

Good quali for me, ended up 6th. In the race, tried to resist those behind for a few laps, but just could'nt get any heat into the front right, so all the left handers were a bit of a mare. Had been running low 2:01's in praccy, but could only just get to within 1 sec of that in race. After stop, tried and failed to catch TT, who overtook me in the pits by about 2 secs, but fell off the long right hander b4 the fast right onto back straight, only to do exactly the same the following lap, putting me 15 secs behind. Was lucky to be gifted 7th by Jimmie's unlucky fuel issue on the last lap, and sorry to see teamie sbg having late problems after what looks like a good fight. Gratz to podium, see you all next week.

My worst race ever. No proper setup, no nothing. Horrible.

Lovely track though (at least I think it is, would have to put a proper lap together to enjoy it anyway :D ).

Couldn't wait for race to end, bored beyond belief, running dead last. Was frustrating seeing GT1 leaders go by. Half a lap I could stay with them, other half of the track.... woooosh and they were gone. How is a complete mistery to me. ???

MJ, why did you disco, I was there to race you if only you'd wait for me, ihihi. :D

@ Legzy - never ever saw such a huge accident before. So... thanks, I guess... (you scared the living daylights out of me, pinballing around like crazy, lol. Must check replay to figure out what happened, I went out loud "If this was real he'd be dead without HANS".).  :o  ;D

Whos Hans? ;D

Dont think Oily was running with 'simple debris collisions' on talking about it on TS so probably didnt help regarding the severity! Watching Oily somersault 100feet in the air kinda threw me off my braking and ended up in the gravel and seemed to be the end of a good result for me. Seemed to be slowly gaining on the group up ahead as well as they fought.

Ended up racing nsfast for most of that which was fun and we were barely a few tenths apart at times. Brilliant 8) But i was struggling to be consistent which meant a few offs, running wide, and locking ups whcih meant swapping places a few times with nsfast. Managed to get ahead and managed to stay ahead and gain on the next car, Gizmo, getting quite close and thinking of a move but another 'nearly' off dropped me back and just couldn't quite get back up behind.

Thanks to those GTC who were considerate and let me though, sorry to those who thought i was going to sit behind you and didnt want to let me through ;)  

was there any sneaky pit lane cheat i wasnt aware of like being able to come off the pit limiter well before that very far away green light at end of pit? Am still confused how i could lose so much time at the stops. The stop went totally functionally.  ??? It was very dispiriting to be in a good first half race with enough cars in range to feel a race will develop over an endurance length to then be -45 seconds  :o  ::)

Don't think so - in fact I lost a couple of seconds going in when I braked too early. The stop itself I took four tyres and about 50 litres (fuel consumption not as bad as I feared - my lack of wing probably helped), and having seen the replay I think I lost another 2 seconds by stopping about a third of a car length too far forward, though I didn't realise it at the time.

What I didn't do was waste any time looking at the board - I used XD to tweak the fuel amount, killed the ignition as I rolled into the box to save more time, and acknowleged the board without reading it.

I happened to drive into the pits during practice to see where the pit-limiter kicks in. :o It actually worked and suddenly it opened to me! I just knew where to start braking! ;D

With 3 spins before your stop you were approximately 36 seconds behind where you could have been.
You also had a slow 1st flying lap compared to most of the other GT1s (approx an extra 10 seconds).
Add all that together and you get 46 seconds off where your pace could have put you.

Then you factor in the smaller factors:
Did you start on a full tank?
Did you have a rubbish in and out lap?
Did you stop the engine quickly and select pit board options quickly?
Did you know where to brake to be quick into the pits?
You are driving one of the thirstier cars so a bit more is expected in the stop.

After all this talk about saving time in the pits may I put my moderator hat on and remind people that:

•Drivers shall at all times and in all sessions obey the pit lane speed limit.

Pit speeding especially during qually sessions seems to be creeping in.