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Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:10	(25 mins)
Race:	20:35	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT2 or GT3 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.10.5.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics).
Weather: Changeable, seeded from real-world conditions.
Track: Anderstorp GP
Race Start Time: 18:00 (sunset race).
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Lower Endurance
Password: See above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=218;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track pack (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
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(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).

Hi everyone Nsfast invited me over here to team up with him in the league. I just wanted to introduce myself before hopefuly getting on track with you all. I come from the Midlands, UK and have driven many GTR2 races over the past few years. Unfortunately i have seen the decline in the popularity of the game first hand in recent weeks and the league i used to compete in was forced to close  :'(

As a result i found myself looking for a new league & Adam pointed me in your direction. I know its mid season so i will try not to interfere with any of the championship front runners. Hope to see you all on track soon  :)

Ooh, fresh blood for me to dream about beating for a week before having my hopes dashed cruelly. :laugh:

Welcome to UKGTR!

Welcome Jayblue, look forward to seeing you on track :)

Looking forward to getting back in my favourite F430 ;D, after the dodgy experience with the F360  >:(

Welcome Jayblue from a fellow Midlander :)

As you can see, GTR2 is well and truly alive and kicking here. We are mid season but feel free to join in the fun anytime you like and "interfering" with championships is positively encouraged ;D

Make sure you have the relevant packs/tracks installed and take some time to try out the cars as they are balanced and perform slightly differently to what you might be used to. As well as the race schedule (top right) there are usually a few of us for online pracci in the evenings, so pop along and say hello.

If you get stuck with anything, shout up and someone will help you out.

Hope you're not too fast ;)

Welcome Jayblue  :)

Bit doubtful for this one, which is a real shame as Anders is my fave track (no idea why).

Welcome Jayblue :yes:


Fave track ??? How can that be? You must be as :wacko: as Popabawa. ;)

 :laugh: Yeah Anders has certainly never been one of my favourite tracks. Thanks for the welcome guys, nice to see such a friendly forum for a change! I have all the packs downloaded and i am installing them tonight. No doubt it will take a while to get to grips with the tweaked cars but then i guess thats part of the fun.

welcome Jayblue.  :)

What a shame you join as we do one of the most boring tracks in GTR2  ::) i hate this track, we must have raced here a gazillion times, couldnt we have put something a little more imaginative in the schedule. :-X

Will pass on this i think  :(

   ;D ;D

Welcome Jay. Good to have you with us.

Anderstorp is one of those tracks which is boring to just hotlap at, but which always seems to produce good racing.

Just me then that enjoys it around here ;D

You dont get much chance to relax around here.

I'll take that as a complement  ;) I bet iR will never get round to mapping a track like this though. Think it stems from this event https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=514#event33 , looking at some of the "legends" (Jon must have been in nappies at that stage  :)) there that is still my best ever result if I'm honest. Sadly I peaked 4 years ago  :)

MJ you are just so wrong  :) I've never had a dull race at Anders and one, or two, spectacular crashes, as its a real risk and reward kinda track.

Well, I'll race here anyways. :P

IF I can get rid of that st00pid wandering 997 does on the straight. >:(  It's driving me nuts! Wanders right off the racing line during braking after the big straight. :-X  I remember some murmuring about that at the start of the season. So: what did you guys do to stop it? :(

I'm glad I'm not the only 997 wanderer, I thought my wheel was badgered, but its just the porker, thank god....what am i saying, i'm talking myself out of a G25!!!EEEK!

Just made a fresh install of GTR2, installed XD and a few other bits and bobs and then the car pack, skins packs and sound pack. I must say really nice job on the cars, there is a lot of choice and they all look great. With regard to car choice i was wondering - do teammates have to drive the same model or is a team made up of just the drivers in whatever cars they may choose? Also is this a two class race with two sets of results and two championships, one for GT2 and one for GT3?

Entrants can choose whichever car they like, regardless of what car their teamies choose. Some teamies like to stick with the same cars as it can help with testing/setup. You are allowed one car change per season without penalty; If you change car again, I think you are penalised 20% of your points for that race only.

These races are dual class and have seperate championships for each class as you assumed. If you click on the series links in blue top right of this page it will show the current status and forthcoming events in that series.

Thanks for clearing that up for me, now i can get to testing a bit more to see which car i like for Anders. With so much choice i think GTR2 will be fired up quite a bit over the next few days!

@Jayblue, welcome 8)


Lower preload, increase coast?

If still not working either try decrease front toe-in (towards positive) and/or increase rear toe-in (towards negative).

It'll increase straight line stability though ruin your turn in possibility if overdone and if the car is still bad after this I guess something is wrong in the physics file (there's already something definitely wrong cause it cooks NGT tyres :P and therefore has GT tyres).

Thought it was only noticeable in the wet ??? never seen it anywhere else.

If you meant the tyres, I'm not sure if it was in dry, wet or both (I don't driver Porkers), but the physics file states its using GT tyres (thus for both dry and wet), Dave knows the exact reason :P

i fixed the wandering ages ago in the porker. Did give tt my setups so not sure why he is still struggling with it ! ::)  Perhaps your ffb is ramped up too high so exasperating the problem ?

reducing front caster helped a lot. Been a while so cannot remember what else i tweaked but was a few things. Then won at Spa  :)

Preload 3, coast 60%; don't think this is the reason, works ok elsewhere. :)
From http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html
"When the wheel on one side of the car encounters a disturbance, that wheel is pulled rearward about its steering axis. This action also pulls the other wheel in the same steering direction. If it's a minor disturbance, the disturbed wheel will steer only a small amount, perhaps so that it's rolling straight ahead instead of toed-in slightly. But note that with this slight steering input, the rolling paths of the wheels still don't describe a turn. The wheels have absorbed the irregularity without significantly changing the direction of the vehicle. In this way, toe-in enhances straight-line stability.

If the car is set up with toe-out, however, the front wheels are aligned so that slight disturbances cause the wheel pair to assume rolling directions that do describe a turn. Any minute steering angle beyond the perfectly centered position will cause the inner wheel to steer in a tighter turn radius than the outer wheel. Thus, the car will always be trying to enter a turn, rather than maintaining a straight line of travel. So it's clear that toe-out encourages the initiation of a turn, while toe-in discourages it."

I use on most cars and tracks front toe -0,30 and rear +0,30. This wandering occures on 997 only. :(  Ok, will try that as well.
Well, I don't know about that. The car feels ok otherwise, it's just this wandering that's driving me nuts. ::)

Well, this was dry. In wet it must be even worse. :(

I remember you and JPS talk about it on the forum, was reading it but I can't discern which of your setups actually worked this thing out. I was preocupied with the beautiful-no flaws-F430. ;)  Besides, I'd like to know what it is, so I can take it into consideration for future problems on other cars. :)
I have it on 50%, so I don't think so. :)
Again, from http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html

"Positive caster tends to straighten the wheel when the vehicle is traveling forward, and thus is used to enhance straight-line stability."

I usually drive with high-ish caster (above 4) and it works well elsewhere. It might be a thing to try, though the theory states differently. :-\

Congrats again, MJ. 8) I remember that and also that you fixed the wandering which made me feel ok as I was confident you can help me with it if I have the same problem. Then you forgot. :D

Anyways, I have to make some more laps to try new ideas from here. :)

You say that, but when I went back and tried the various 996s, it was there too, just not as pronounced. Once I knew what I was feeling for it was quite obvious.

Try preload on 1 (higher number make your car more responsive while transitioning from braking/accelerating, but can also upset your car)
Coast is insanely high, but seems like a fine number trying to cancel out the wandering.

I mostly have the rear toe-in on +0,10 and only increase the front -0,10 when I wont a more chuck-in corner response. Would just try those on stock value :)

Do the suspension and camber/caster settings all have the same values on both sides left and right of the car?
Perhaps suspension or ARB too stiff so that 1 wheel or more wheels lose contact under a bit bumpy braking.

Hi everyone i'm Jayblue's dad. I also raced at the league that eventually had not enough racers to continue but my son told me about here so i thought i'd join in. I have raced with Nsfast many times, quite often we are racing close together. Looking forward to seeing you all on track on Sunday.

Hiya Bob. Welcome. :)

@Jimmie:
I have generaly simetrical settings, only occasionaly I do it differently on a track where I know what I'm doing and why (wife drops on the floor laughing :P ). Will try with lower preload and lower rear spring values. I have arbs quite low here as it brought better results. Wandering was the same with stiffer or softer arbs anyway.

@Dave:
Since implementing 2006 mod I rarely had any porker business, so I wouldn't know. MJ and JPS drive them so car variety is mostly on me. :P 

Itching fingers and err, seat - wanna try all this NOW! :D

4 YEARS :o
Wow! I can still remember that race TBH :-[
Quite like anders though I don't think I've ever got to grips with it fully, some of the bends here are great. The one's with the banking...A real late brakers paradise 8) So much time to be had if you go in fully committed, and so much time in the kitty litter if you get it wrong ;) Should be able to make this one. Dunno if I'm gonna stick with the F430 yet :-\

Hi Bob, look forward to seeing you on track.
FYI, I'm trying to start a new tradition, where all newcomers let me finish in front of them for at least one race... so bear that in mind on Sunday please  ;) ;) ;)

Hello and welcome to BlueJay and gsi bob :) Goodluck in your first races here 8)

Hi BlueJay and gsi bob, look forward to racing with you 8)

TT I tried everything to tame down this bizarre wondering, I'am considering going back to the 996 or Turbo for the next race :( 

IIUC, 'Preload' effects the transition between coast & power diffs. I would imagine this wandering was happening in the middle/end of straights, so unlikely that preload would have any effect. And if it did, a higher preload number leads to a smoother transition, so to lower it would just cause a more violent reaction.
Again with coast, that's when your foot is coming off the accelerator, not when it's planted... so again I'd think this is unlikely to help.

I agree that a +0.2 would be more likely to help then a -0.2 for front toe, I'm sure I tried that when we started with that car & I don't recall it helping :-\.
While at the back, I've always been of the understanding that a rear toe measurement of +0.2 would do less wandering then a car with 0.0 rear toe... not the other way around.

My suggestions of things to try one at a time would be:
1: Make rear toe a more positive number (i.e. +1.0 might be worth a try, if it works you can slowly reduce it down).
2: Try increasing front rebound & decreasing rear bump to their maximums. If no effect, then you can disregard them & if it's worse, go the other way.
3: Try increasing front springs & decreasing rear springs.
4: Try increasing front ARB & decreasing rear ARB.
5: Power diff, I can't decide if lowering would be better or raising. Try on 100% & try on 5%, see if either has any effect on the wandering?.
6: After that, you've only really got ride height & aero settings left that effect acceleration.

Having thought about it, I almost fancy jumping back in it to find out myself. :laugh:

I was under the assumption that it was mainly there under braking, but if it also happens on the straight then preload won't really change anything yes.
I thought preload works the other way around though (number wise), but I barely notice the difference anyway.

It's there all the way, though it's more noticable on braking as corrections bring more eee, feelable (is this a word? :D ) results.

Ah, I remembered wrong then  :P.

Hi again guys, just working out my race strategy and i have a few questions. At my mandatory pit stop can i just take 2 tyres and no fuel, or just fuel but no tyre change or do i have to do both? Also with regard to the weather will we will running the rather chilly temps they have over in Sweden on the server on race night?

I'm actually not sure, but if I'm correct you only need to stop and what you do else is your own decision :)

To be competitive you need new tyres anyway and no car can make it without a bit of refueling.
Did anyone ever try hards for 80 minutes?

Jay, you need to stop & either change one set of tyres or take on 1ltr.
You can obviously do both or more, but that's the minimum.

p.s. you can be competitive in some cars with just a "minimum pitstop"  :shifty::whistling:

Just out in max fuel at the start and refuel if you need and take 4 new shoes :).

There is a minimum temperature they use here to prevent freezing leven, so it won't be too low.

Some GT1s need hard rears just to go 40 minutes. At the vast majority of tracks, hards in the slower classes cost for too much in lap time to have a hope of making up the difference by not changing them in the stop.

Jay

I think the link below may help with testing temps  :)

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5145.0

Thanks that's helped out. Mostly ready for the race now, just a few decisions on tyres and fuel to make but i'm happy with my pace.

I'm never happy with my pace. :D  Always an alien comes by and shatters my castle in the clouds. ::)

To make you happier TT, my race pace is mid 28's. Be on late tonight to improve on that hopefully :)

Boo-yakka-sha, etc.

Strange, i dont get any major wandering around here. I can only suggest your braking too hard and the fronts are close to locking up.

Best is a 1.30.6 for me around here, but its hard work!

You might be right, DG. I don't race with porkers very much, so I forgot. Just made a few laps for R2P event (3hrs of Road Atlanta :o) in the "old" RSR and it's there as well, just seems a bit more controlable. :)
Btw, the R2P version of Road America is much better than ours. :-\ http://files.race2play.com/gtr2/tracks/Elkhart%20Lake.exe 

Sadly going to miss this one due to dislocating my thumb at Mallory Park today on my track bike, funny thing is, the bikes fine, but my thumbs trashed. Have fun guys, hope to be back next week.

Ouch. :o :wheelchair:

Not to good, eh?  :-\  Get well soon.  :)

Managed to fluke a 1:28.6 with Race fuel... but far more realistic will be mid 29's... assuming we don't see rain

Pffft, soft you say? ;)

Seriously, ouch, get well soon Stew. I'm not gonna make this one either, try to have fun without me :)

Sorry to hear that Stew and I hope you get better soon. In the meantime I'll be borrowing your 997 if that's OK. It'll be my second car change, but it's worth the penalty to get out of that F360 :)

You break it, you bought it!! ;D Watch the wandering on the straights, and amaze at how late you can brake.

I'm killing my tyres around here in Z3 ??? Might have to do a 2 stopper :o
Mid 1:34's for me

PS If the turn out in the GT3's is low, I might give this one a miss. :'(

If it is low, rather then not race at all... you could always join us in the GT2 997. You were quite decent in that.

EDIT - you've already got 3 GT3's on the server... with at least you & Picnic to come  :)

Not gonna do this, what a horrible track.

"Dear passengers, we shall be landing at Gatwick instead of Heathrow. I simply hate the place!"

Translation: "JonM is embarrassingly faster than me". ;) :laugh:

 :P

I'll join for a ride, even if I don't like the track.  :)

Disco. I hope I didn't hit anyone, I heard a clonk (but no impact)...  ??? :(

Didn't have any time to practice for this one and eventually had a couple of silly mistakes just before half way. Decided to leave rather than ruin anybody's night.

Good luck to team mates, must find some time to practice before the next one  :-[

Had a good race. Qually'd 1st and just tried to be steady in the race. Thanks to the guys being lapped you were all great 8) Well done to all the finishers and to gsi bob and JayBlue on a great first race. Well done Api and see you next Sunday.

Best race I've had in ages. Which is odd because I would not list this as a track I'm a fan off :-\

Will give more detail tomorrow, jumping on the server again to practice for Tuesday's race  ;D

Things went well for a first event here. Jon was clearly too quick in both quali and the race but i set my sights on maintaining my quali position for the race. Initially the guys behind held on to me but as i got a rhythm going i pulled away gradually. Jon had a big lead at his stop but when i left the pit i was only 8 seconds behind him again. Unfortunately i gambled on not taking new rear tyres and my car was very difficult to control for a large part of the second stint, i had one off with all the oversteer and decided to settle to a comfortable pace after that.

Great win Jon, congrats to the podium and winners of GT3 too. I was very impressed by the standard of driving on display, all the backmarkers were beyond reproach in allowing themselves to be lapped. I think the league is really good, thanks to the admins and site owners. Also it was great to be back on a grid with over 20 runners in it, really rejuvinated my GTR2 enthusiasm. Looking forward to next weeks event, i was going to do tuesday night too but i have to go out somewhere  :(

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20090927%20U10LE/index.html)

Enjoyed driving the 997 instead of the F360 although I did find the track pretty dull. Went for a tyres only strategy, but somehow must have miscalculated my fuel which meant another stop for a splash/dash late on. :(

Hard luck to Bob who I think took some damage on the last lap, allowing me to pass after we'd had a nice little battle throughout the race.

Congrats to both podies.

Nice race. :)

Had a good fight/chase with MJ and Gazza early on. Had a nice chase with Legzy in the second half of the race.  Not a big fan of the track but, I have had some good races on it including tonight. It has very different character from the other official tracks. Although not to good in its own rite, as part of a championship, I like it.

I span out from 4th place with approx 15 mins remaining which lead me to bang my hand on my desk in anger which I do not do often.  >:( I was very keen to stay in front of Legzy and MJ, but they out concentrated me. In an enduro race, that is the same as out drove me.

Well done podiums and thanks GT3 drivers. Also well done new drivers. :) You can see that Jayblue has good taste as he decided to take one of the lovely Team Pseudo cars. ;D

what a cracking race that was and i dont even like this place!  :o

Never been a fan of anderstorp but cannot deny i always have a great race there with plenty of battles and this was no exception. 8)
Wasnt even intending to race tonight but jumped on a server late this afternoon for about 20minutes and was fast out of the box so thought eh, why not.  :)

Glad i did. The race was absolutely flat out mental, an 80minute sprint !!  :o I enjoyed fantastic races with H@L, Gazza and finally Legzy for a nail biting end that saw us cross the line less than a second apart  8)...not bad after 80minutes of continuous battling racing !

still completely befuddled by pitstop voodoo  ??? i didnt put a foot wrong tonight and yet still lost out massively in the stops  :'(
I was only 6 seconds behind Simon in 3rd when he made his stop, whereas i was running longer to 50mins so i carried on. Even near the end of my stint i was still pumping in 1:30's and 31's on worn tyres and had a 43 second lead over him. My late stop meant i assumedly took on less fuel and yet when i emerged from the pits i was 36 seconds behind him !!?  ::) I just cant see how i could lose so much time as the stop was totally routine  :-\ Even Legzy and H@L had jumped ahead and i had a decent lead over both before i stopped. :surrender:
It was quite disheartening but the racer in me fired up the adrenaline and chased those ahead down. H@l went off track and i chased Legzy hard for the last 5 laps or so right behind him and hoping he would crack under pressure. I so nearly had him at the penultimate corner when he got nervous at that tight left hander but his car was sufficiently wide enough to prevent me getting past. ;)

Brilliant fun and great racing. Well done Jon on the win and pody guys.  8)

One of my worst performances ever, unfortunately. :-[

Got my strategy totally wrasse about face; started on softs thinking that with the low temperatures they would go to half distance. For the first few laps it was looking okay, but once they started to wear I was struggling to stay ahead of Lazlow and nsfast. Decided to pit early and switch to mediums, but temperatures then dropped and could never really get them properly warmed up.

Should've tuned the car for mediums and done two equal length stints, or at least started on mediums and then switch to softs for a short final stint.

After the stop my car was woolier than a sheep in a sweater, wandering all over the place in the braking zones and just feeling like it had no grip at all, and I had 3 big offs which cost me 20-30 seconds apiece. :( The final one was after Lazlow's splash and dash; TBH I did the last 40 minutes wanting to park it, and only hung in there for the sake of the team championship.

Sorry to Spanner who ran off behind me in the banked left hander when I was stayng high and slow to let him lap me.


Total fuel burn will be the same, so if you started with the same amount he'll have added the same as you... ;)

Decided at the last minute to have a go in the Porsche 997. Never been a fan of the way they drive or the way I drive them, but it was certainly something very different for me! Anderstorp is quite a boring track to hotlap, but we always seem to have good races there. I think it's the fact that there are clear cut overtaking opportunities all the way around the circuit and the nice long front straight too.

Anyway, managed to qualify 4th behind TT and chased him hard at the start on a full tank of fuel and some medium tyres. In the very early laps I took it easy and TT pulled away a little, but once I was happy the car was properly warmed up I started to catch him and put him under pressure. He secumbed to the pressure and span at the end of the back straight, unfortunately right in the middle of the track. I had no chance to avoid as I was so close. This damaged my front end and meant I had no headlights. I carried on whilst TT lost a lot more time though. As 40 minutes approached it was starting to get pretty dark and hard to see the braking point for T1 especially without any headlights.

Pitted at half way, topped up to 63 litres (which was probably 1 or 2 laps too much) and got my lights back with some damage repair at the pit stop. After that I never looked back and was never challenged, which was a shame as it meant the second half was pretty dull. I had one off near the end when I missed the braking point half way around the track, but no other mistakes and managed 1:30s consistently in the second stint.

Overall, I'm surprised to say I actually quite enjoyed the 997, I might use it again. :-\

Nice to see the new faces arrive and glad you enjoyed the racing.

that was 80mins of blinding fun!

For the second week in a row, I've had a poor qually. Didn't manage to get within 1 sec of my race setup PB with my qually setup, regularly blowing laps where I was up buy 0.6 etc.  >:(
Effectively that meant that instead of being 2nd/3rd on the grid, I had to settle for 7th. But I would start the race confident that I could go faster & work my way up.

Well that was how it started... Gazza, MJ, Hal & me all within about a 20-30 meter spread for the 1st eighteen laps! Amazing stuff, till Gazza fell off. Then as I continued to pester Hal without being quick enough to make a pass, MJ started sneaking away. Hal had a little moment & I managed to sneak through just before everyone started to pit.

After my stop for 4 new tyres & fuel (yes MJ, I took on four new tyres & fuel... are you stopping for a cup of tea too? ;)), the car felt wrong. I think I had two little excursions/spins off & that let Hal back through. It wasn't long before I caught him again & stuck on his rear bumper for another 6/7 laps, but once more I just didn't get the opportunity to pass him (good driving Hal). Then I thought I'd blown it, going well well well wide at T1 as Hal disappeared down the main straight  :'(. Imagine my joy surprise to see a cloud of dust & Hal facing the wrong way at T3, gifting me back 4th spot. Unlucky mate.

Now with about 11 laps to go, I had MJ closing me down at pace. He had already worked the gap down to 5 secs & I knew I needed to pick up the pace to stay ahead. So I immediately lost concentration & got a cut track while losing 3secs  ::), but from that moment I banged in good solid 1:30's & plonked my rear end where it needed to be to keep MJ behind me.
What a finish, what a race.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

See you all on Tuesday night for the next UKGTR2 event: Portimão (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6870.msg119488#msg119488)

That was a bit of a disaster for me!

Qually went horrible and ended up 8th  :o

Start of the race was fantastic with me Legzy, MJ and H@l all battling very close and i managed to get past them all with some good driving, but then i realised i had started the race on my qually setup which meant i had soft tyres front and rear and by 25 mins the fronts were ******  :(.  This was allowing MJ to catch me back up and i had to pit early.

Panicked at the pitstop and put way to much fuel in and wasted alot of time. Did quite a good steady second stint but was all alone really and was to far behind to catch anyone.

My fronts at the end had 33 wear as they just about managed 50+ mins.  :o and i had 33 litres still in the tank  ::)

I dont mind this track and always have close races but im just not very good round here for some reason.

Grats to all podiums.

I was confident I could keep you behind and prepaired for a steady pace, then put a tyre on a curb and spun. :( It was just a mistake, I wasn't even nervous as I trusted you not to make st00pid moves. Well, then I made one instead. ::) After the contact I had a damage, car was undrivable and I had to pit. Spent there a lot of time repairing damage and came out dead last, 20 sec behind the last GT3. This was in the opening laps and that meant one more stop for the tyres. Was driving quite quickly (3rd GT2 laptime) but the the time lost was not possible to regain. Gap to Gazzer in the last 25 minutes came from 42 seconds to 14 at the end, but I ran out of time. :scooter:

Too bad I made a mistake, was gonna be a tight duel with Shark for 3rd place. :-\

Grats to Jayblue on 2nd and to Jon for the win. Likewise to GT3s.  :)

@gsi bob: was I the cause of your spin? I though I left you enough room, but suddenly saw you spinning. ???

That reminds me... thanks to all the guys that made it as easy as possible for me to get past. One of whom was Dave, who I think may have gone off for his efforts? Sorry chap  :(
& a sorry also to JonM who I think I might have given a fright to as I rejoined the main straight from the pits. I was blasting along, I could hear another engine but I knew non of my competitors were near me & so if a GT3 car was there, I'd be able to push on.... so I looked behind but no car ???. So I assumed (stupidly) that it must be the sound of the car just ahead... as the thought on me being lapped didn't even occur to me these days!  :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm such a plonker, sorry ;D

Not your fault at all, once I was on the mediums I might as well have been driving on banana skins. One corner I could run off the racing line at almost full speed, the next I was sliding off at half speed. ???

I know that feeling. 'Oh no, he span out ahead of me. That is a shame'. (chuckle to self >:D). We both made at least 1 big mistake so I think you were faster overall.

TBH Legzy It was no problem, I don't recall it affecting me in anyway. No worries 8)

Bit of an average race for me which nowadays i'm disapointed with, running near the back of the GT2's. 1.30.0 in qually has been my best ever which only put my 10th. The cold temps early on seemed to ruin the tyres and i was getting more wear on the fronts as the gaps ahead and behind grew. With the group ahead playing together i was pegging the gap to some degree and with legzy falling off gave me something to aim at but a few too many mistakes from pushing too hard dropped me back about 20 secs.



Ta, no worries. I was planning on getting past on the straight and you high line through me a bit, flash of the lights would have helped.

After my stop had TT appear out the pits behind but sadly wasnt going to hold him off for long, especially with Shark loitering around in 3rd.

Nice to see some new blood,hope you enjoyed it :)

 Really enjoyed driving with everyone last night.Had a very busy
 weekend so was not properly prepared for the race, so sorry
 for the various mistakes, (not done rolling starts before or raced
 with two car classes etc).
 Apologise to Mark Jonzo for the nudge and Adam (nsfast) i probably
 braked a bit late so sorry.
 TrueTom no problem,not your fault.

 Thanks for the driving experience all,cu next race,Bob.