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Title: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: vosblod on September 28, 2009, 09:57:51 AM +0100
Race three already. Lorenzo's two wins in Works means he has a 44 point lead meanwhile, in the Privateers, Al H has the top spot by a whisker. Early days in both championships. Please bear in mind there are a mixture of driver abilities and no second chances with Pro.

Race List = IGOR
Server = ukgpl.4 (see note below)
IP address = 84.64.42.154 (tbc)
Race date = 04-10-2009
Time = 21:00 UK time (20.00 GMT)
Track = Kyalami
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (37 laps)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=225;theme=6)
The track can be downloaded from : standard papy track
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1925 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1925)

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 p.m (UK London Time = BST = GMT + 1h).

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left. Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday).
We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.

With the new token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=225;theme=6). Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, namely Works and Privateers. The current driver split is;

WORKS drivers
Evil Clive    
Tim FMG    
Andrew Hodgson    
Hristo Itchov    
James Rye    
Ruud Savelkoul    
Sam B    
Jethro W    
Will Tway    
John Roberts    
Phil Thornton    
Ken Murray (R)    
Fulvio Policardi (R)    
Doni Yourth (R)    
Mike Beattie (R)    
Lorenzo Galluzzi (R)    
Kruger Enge (R)    
   

PRIVATEERS drivers
Al Heller    
Bookie W    
Graham Poole    
Bartosz Podreckony    
Rick Nauman    
 Sharkfin (R)    
Steve Bird    
Vosblod    
Burtoner (R)    
Billy Nobrakes (R)    
Viss (R)    
Peter Maestro (R)    
Bernie D (R)    
Michael Turner    

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: In the event of more then 19 entrants a second grid will be run for the Privateers on ukgpl.6. (IP 80.5.200.198) Instructions will be provided in the chatroom – please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count. If you can try to make sure you are in the chatroom by 8.50pm this will enable a decision without any delays to the start time.

Ensure you have the pit wall in place.  The standard papy track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it.  The absence of a pit wall will not stop you joining the race but anybody seen miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will be disqualified.
Instructions for restoring the pit wall are;
If you have installed the GFX update that removes the pitwall here is how to get it back for the race .
1. Rename or remove kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
That will give you back a wall you can crash your car into. If you want the old papy Armco GFX back do this.
2. Rename or remove Armco_s.mip.

Kyalami (My home in Zulu) is a motor racing circuit located in Midrand, Gauteng, South Africa. The circuit has been used for Grand Prix and Formula One races and has hosted the South African Grand Prix many times. In recent years, the area surrounding the circuit has developed into a residential and commercial suburb of Johannesburg.  The original, sweeping circuit was in use from 1967 until political sanctions eliminated the Grand Prix after the 1985 race. When the circuit was rebuilt in the early 1990s as part of a commercial development, the pit straight, Crowthorne bend, Barbeque and Jukskei sweep corners were either eliminated or heavily modified, with the result that the circuit became a narrow, twisty ribbon rather than one of the fastest circuits on the calendar. Formula One abandoned the rebuilt circuit in 1993 after just two races (and a bankruptcy on the part of the promoter).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Andrew Hodgson on September 29, 2009, 09:55:28 AM +0100
Ooooh, crashayami

Hope I don't cause a T1 pileup like I did in the ROC :angel:

Oh, and doing more than 6 laps would be nice. Those lovely grass run offs are much nicer than Laguna's white polos and armco of doom :)

Andrew


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 02, 2009, 11:05:47 PM +0100
Why am I dreading this race?!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: JamesRye on October 02, 2009, 11:22:31 PM +0100
am hoping to make this one.....if I get back from Brands Hatch on time  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: fpolicardi on October 04, 2009, 03:54:12 PM +0100
Now I read on the rules:
"A driver who fails to start any of the first 5 races will only be elligible for an initial allocation of 10 tokens (rather than 20)"

I hadn't race the first race at Glen and I picked the Ferrari (15 token) at Laguna, wasn't I eligible to drive the Ferrari? And now how much token can I spent for tonight at Kya?

Please clarify to me this cause I have a bug in my English comprehension  :wacko:

Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 04, 2009, 04:18:25 PM +0100
I think that's "any of the first 5 races" meaning "none of the first 5 races", but a mod clarifying that would be useful. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 04, 2009, 04:45:52 PM +0100
Now I read on the rules:
"A driver who fails to start any of the first 5 races will only be elligible for an initial allocation of 10 tokens (rather than 20)"
That is just to prevent someone who joins half way through the season having an unfair tokens advantage for the last 5 races.  It doesn't apply to you Fulvio, you have already started one race and consequently received your initial allocation of 20 tokens.
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I hadn't race the first race at Glen and I picked the Ferrari (15 token) at Laguna, wasn't I eligible to drive the Ferrari? And now how much token can I spent for tonight at Kya?

Please clarify to me this cause I have a bug in my English comprehension  :wacko:

Ciao
Hover the mouse over your points total in the championship table  (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=225&theme=6)and it will show you have 15 tokens.  So since you will get 10 for starting the race, you have 25 to spend on a chassis tonight.

So far you have spent:
20 initial allocation + 10 start - 15 for Ferrari = 15.  (as shown in the championship table)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: b_1_rd on October 04, 2009, 05:24:33 PM +0100


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Ensure you have the pit wall in place.

In the words of Dale Winton!

"Bring on the Wall!"

 ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: James Andrew on October 04, 2009, 06:01:40 PM +0100


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Ensure you have the pit wall in place.

In the words of Dale Winton!

"Bring on the Wall!"

 ;D

Oh. My. God.

You did NOT just quote Winton. Jeez.   :p


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: b_1_rd on October 04, 2009, 08:11:44 PM +0100
 :laugh:

You going to try and tell me now you never watched it  :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 04, 2009, 08:16:58 PM +0100
Watch people in skin-tight lycra try and jump through polystyrene cutouts?

Absolutely not. Preposterous. Regardless of how funny it is. ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 04, 2009, 08:41:49 PM +0100
I have no idea what you guys are on about - But am pleased to see my guess on the passwords was indeed correct  ;D

Can I spend the tokens left in my account on next seasons chassis allocations?  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Andrew Hodgson on October 04, 2009, 09:57:05 PM +0100
Apologies to evilclive. Got a draft and made the pass, only to overcook the entry to Crowthorne and stick the rear wheel on the grass on the exit, spinning me into your path :(

*grovel grovel*

Lasted until the 7th lap this time! :( Perhaps I should have used the Honda after all!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 04, 2009, 10:16:53 PM +0100
Jethro'd  :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: EvilClive on October 04, 2009, 10:44:56 PM +0100
Apologies to evilclive. Got a draft and made the pass, only to overcook the entry to Crowthorne and stick the rear wheel on the grass on the exit, spinning me into your path :(

*grovel grovel*

Lasted until the 7th lap this time! :( Perhaps I should have used the Honda after all!
NP Andrew,  although you did have me guessing about where you were actually going to form that roadblock  lol ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 04, 2009, 10:47:15 PM +0100
Jethro'd  :-\
Sorry about that Tim. I was overtaking John on the main straight, saw you ahead, braked where I could outbrake John into T1 and found your car approaching rather rapidly so headed for the inside gap you left. I think it was a warp collision as I didn't feel anything. Major apologies. :(

If I hadn't screwed up around the outside of T1 on lap 1, I could have won that race. I'd managed 2nd on the grid hoping I had enough pace for pole, but H had that Honda boostered in the pits by HER. He got a great start, but when I let the Lotus unwind on the run down to T1 I'd pulled alongside and hoped I didn't hit him. Around the outside understeer crept in and spat me onto the kerb. Around I went, I hit the brakes and hoped I didn't hit the wall. Hoping didn't pay off, the rear hit it at an angle and for a lap the car felt very funny. After getting it back up to speed and getting the tyres up, I overtook everybody that was in front of me up to Lorenzo and Hristo 10 seconds up the road. EvilClive and Andrew gave me a nice escapade when they collided on the run to T2, and kept me guessing where they'd end up on the tarmac! The gap had stayed that way throughout my charge, so I knew I was in with a chance. Sure enough, when they came across Phil that chance arrived. I have to bribe more people since I knew it should have taken H with Phil and not Lorenzo. After lunching him on the straight in his ailing Cooper, I tried to close the gap to the lead, but kept making silly mistakes and not enough pace. Still got fastest lap though! ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: MikeBeattie on October 05, 2009, 07:43:11 AM +0100
Well my plan was to make it to the Finish, which would be a novelty for me !! So I was playing it safe. I had a good start off the line and got Tim and Lorenzo by the time we made it to Jethro 1 (AKA The corner frommerly Known as T1) Suddenly I was third !! Err panic :)

A lap or so later Lorenzo cruised up behind and I let him by on braking into J1. I now had a reasonable gap back to Tim, Evil & Co and was only losing minimal ground to Lorenzo and this continued for several laps. Iwas keeping an eye on prib and saw Tim's name was no longer behind me, the next time round I read the reason and fear shook my body :o Jethro was now behind me !!! It took him about 5 laps to close in, and he obviously had some speed. He taggod onto my tail as we cleared J1 and then started looking for inside lines at the sucessive turns. Out of Sunset I kept left to hold the inside for Clubhouse, but the darn yellow noede Lotus seemed to want an even further inside line behind me. Fearing we were about to create Jethro 2 ( or is that Jethro 3, Tim?) I fumbled the apex, slid wide and was relieved to see Mr Chapman's creation pass cleanly up the inside.

So now down to 4th, I still had podium hopes !! The sub plot being, Jethro catches the lead duo and Hey Presto I might even win !!  :D
However, it was not quite to be, I had a couple of spins the second at J1 left me up against the fence on the inside and by the time I extracted myself both Fulvio and John were past. I set off in pursuit but the three of us must have been doing similar times and I couldn't close the gap.

Grats to the Podium, and Hey finally I've got points for finishing !!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Kruger Enge on October 05, 2009, 08:18:28 AM +0100
Well, managed a PB in quali, first time below 1.20 with Brab and the car felt excellent in the race, I was able to lap close to Hristo and keeping Lorenzo behind, though I believe it was more down to Hristo preserving his car.

On Lap 7, my clutch failed and smoke spluttered from the back.

Game over. Pity as I enjoyed it so much.

Grats to podium.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Hristo Itchov on October 05, 2009, 11:57:25 AM +0100
I just managed to get the pole away from Jethro on my final run, although it wasn't an ideal lap. My start was good, but his Lotus had more grunt down towards T1 and he lined up on the left in the braking zone. I tried to keep the utmost inside line and managed to do so, but Jethro disappeared and I thought we had made contact there, but couldn't be sure.

After that I had a very fast Kruger on my tail and although I was trying to preserve the engine my speed wasn't much compromised, so he had a genuine pace in those early laps, but the power of Honda saved me on the straights.

Eventually Kruger disappeared and was replaced by Lorenzo who was even quicker, but again I had enough engine power to compensate for my slower pace through some corners where he'd catch up completely. As long as I didn't make major mistakes he would've had a hard time passing though.

That fight went on until we came up to lap Phil before the hairpin. Phil kept the outside line on the exit of the previous corner and so I compromised my speed a bit to be able to go toward the inside and pass him. On my PC it looked completely clean, but apparently he felt a contact and was spun around, which then put Lorenzo in a position he couldn't avoid contact.

Now that I had clear road I focused on preserving the engine and going consistently, but then Jethro appeared in 2nd and he was going very fast. With a gap of around 6 seconds with 12 laps to go he just needed to close by about half a second a lap to jethronate me from 1st place as I had no illusions I could keep a Lotus behind on the straights.

So I put my head down and pushed as much as I dared but without stressing the engine and soon enough the gap stabilized and I could even increase it in some laps. There was no point relaxing too early though, so I kept up that pace until the end and scored my fastest lap near the end.

Apparently luck was more on my side in this race, but I think consistency won above all. Grats to all finishers!

ALL MY VICTORIES ARE BELONG TO HER!!!  ;D

-=Hristo=-


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 05, 2009, 03:00:50 PM +0100
I just managed to get the pole away from Jethro on my final run, although it wasn't an ideal lap. My start was good, but his Lotus had more grunt down towards T1 and he lined up on the left in the braking zone. I tried to keep the utmost inside line and managed to do so, but Jethro disappeared and I thought we had made contact there, but couldn't be sure.
No contact H, I just fluffed it on the outside hoping I didn't cut across you.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: EvilClive on October 05, 2009, 05:01:58 PM +0100
An early exit for my wazamobile after being "nobbled" by Andrew's Eagle.

Qually went pretty much as expected with a mid grid spot,  about 9th I think. I cannot get anywhere near Hristo's pace in the Honda around here ( or anywhere else come to that!!).
The start however went better than I could have hoped as I got the power down and the Waza turbine on song perfectly. I even had to take to the paved area to the left of the S/F line to slip past team mate Tim. I think I pipped a couple of other cars on the run down to T1...sry J1.... where a certain green thing was grass cutting, so I gained another place to find myself tailing Lorenzo.

End of lap 1 showed me in 5th!!  not bad for one lap's work on cold tyres :)

Lorenzo and Mike ( who was in 3rd ) started to pull away, not surprised by that as they were always going to be quicker and I started hunting for race pace and a steady run.
Andrew started to close in his Eagle and was better on heavy fuel in the braking zone for T1, so I guessed that was where he would try and pass when he got close enough. Which on lap 6 he did...except that I also braked a fraction later  hehehe! and I think that sucked him in a little too deep ::) evil I know, but it had to be done ;).
I stayed wide on the entry and watched as his Eagle scrabbled for grip to overcome centrifugal force, whilst I turned in beneath him and looked to outdrag him to T2. Andrew meanwhile had just about stayed in contact with tarmac and tried to counter my move with a hefty dose of Westlake power. Unfortunately nobody told the left rear tyre that all this horsepower was coming its way as it ran happily on the grass. Suddenly, just like the film.. The Eagle Has Landed.. it landed right across the track in front of me  :o .. so I hit it :-\  which I might have survived, but the resultant bounce off into the wall removed a wheel and sent me back across the track looking for more victims..but I failed at that too  :-\.... race over. :( but as a result of a racing incident as far as I am concerned.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Rick Nauman on October 05, 2009, 05:23:00 PM +0100
Is there a thread somewhere for the Privateers Kyalami race?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: bernie on October 05, 2009, 08:17:44 PM +0100
Is there a thread somewhere for the Privateers Kyalami race?

we are all waiting for Vos to get his finger out  ::) ::) ::)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: vosblod on October 06, 2009, 09:29:52 AM +0100
Is there a thread somewhere for the Privateers Kyalami race?
we are all waiting for Vos to get his finger out  ::) ::) ::)
Apologies I wasn't in the office yesterday - that's where the server/replay is. Will put it up shortly...

UPDATE : now imported https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6910#event1928 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6910#event1928)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Ken Murray on October 06, 2009, 01:10:13 PM +0100
This was back down to earth with a bump after a decent showing at Solitude in the 66's. I mainly took the BRM because I'm still struggling to get a neg Kya lap with the damn thing. My PB is fractions off so I thought with my fancy projector rig that I waxed lyrical about last week that a 'green' lap might have been a possibility. Not a chance, I didn't get anywhere near, I couldn't even break in to the 20's. Not sure if it was setup related or the way I was driving but I kept cooking the right front.

When I spun with about 5 to go I quit in frustration. Anyway at least I got a race start under my belt and I have a few more tokens to play with, so expect to see the Lotus and Eagle on the grid at the next two events!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 14, 2009, 12:01:03 PM +0100
Is there a time-frame for moderation on this one? I'd like to know if I get penalised for a record 3rd race in a row...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: vosblod on October 14, 2009, 02:57:08 PM +0100
Is there a time-frame for moderation on this one? I'd like to know if I get penalised for a record 3rd race in a row...
Three reported incidents so took a bit longer then usual, should be posted very shortly.

UPDATE : Now posted and you didn't make it 3 in a row Jethro


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Kyalami - Oct 4
Post by: Hristo Itchov on October 14, 2009, 05:52:24 PM +0100
Well, I think I had enough patience there, Phil was on the outside, I went for the inside and there was more than enough gap to make the pass. Besides, our differences in speed were such that braking or lifting up in that moment wouldn't have made a difference. I'm pretty sure Phil was trying to let us by in that very moment. By the time I realized that I did my best to go more to the inside.

Shame for the warp contact, but there's nothing different that I would've or could've done if we're in the same situation again. It's easy to look from my onboard and think I should've slowed down more and earlier, but there are more things going on than looking ahead and predicting a backmarker's movement to a T. while making a corner and protecting your position from the car behind.