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Track: Long Beach download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54520#post_longbeach79)
Time of Day Setting: 11:00
Start: Standing

Practice: ~19:15 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 27 laps (50 mins)

Cars allowed: Healey / Jag E-Type / F250 (Available HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_f250swb)) / Plymouth AAR Cuda (Available HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_plymouth))

Server: UKGTL Classic Cup
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7).
(3) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=210;theme=5)
(4) This race will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#msg54518).
(5) Lobby connection fix can be downloaded HERE (http://www.filefront.com/14042699/FixGTL.rar//)

In case you have been hiding under a rock, there are GTL lobby problems. But.... all is not lost!

This is what I did to connect to the server:
1) Stick this file in your "C:\GTL" folder. http://www.humyo.com/F/9349539-1469477767
2) Fire up GTL as normal, then go to multiplayer.
3) Connect to IP (not lobby)
4) Add the IP to connect to (81.19.209.165).
4a) Log in (this looks like when you log into the lobby, it's suggested you use a password that you don't use elsewhere)
5) Click on the server & you're in (after a brief wait)  

1) Download & run this HOSTS HACK (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_hostshack)
2) Start GTL & select to the lobby
3) Register a new lobby account (I suggest the same name but with a blank email & password)
4) Log in with your new account & you should see a list of servers

:euro:

With that fix, there is no need to touch your host file (unless you've already changed it, then you would need to remove the GTL changes you did). If this fix has not worked for you, then please check out this thread for more info/questions: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6869.msg119486#msg119486

But most importantly, do not suffer in silence (also, don't leave it till the Thursday night ;)).

Can I still use the AntiDeco patch or should I use the alternative lobby thing for this race?

err.... :-\
we still need to know who can get in via the new lobby, before a decision is made. But the signs are that you should try the new lobby method :)

Struggling to break through the 1:46 limit in the Healey. Once again I can't get the front tyres warm. :-\

Not the greatest track to return to, I really struggle round street courses. I think i end up concentrating on the walls and struggle to find the proper lines. IT normally ends with me understeering into a wall :(
Done a few laps round here to work out where the corners go. Jags not much fun around here, and who in their right mind would take Plymouth :o

1:45 in the Plymouth  :clown: ;D

Oily, Oily, Oily!!! 8)

Apologies if I sounded impatient. Just want to try the connection before Thursdaynight  ;)
Have found the GTL Lobby thread so won't bother here with comm issues.

As it seems we so far have a 100% success rate of our drivers getting access to the "new Lobby", our UKGTL Server has now been updated to broadcast in the new lobby too.

This is what to do to connect to the server:
1) Download & run this HOSTS HACK (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_hostshack)
2) Start GTL & select to the lobby
3) Register a new lobby account name (your old one with a blank password should be fine)
4) Log in with your new account & you should see a list of servers

:euro:

This race will now use this lobby method on Thursday (I'm 99% sure ;))

Any chance somebody can test they can see & access our server with Long Beach on please?

I will test this as soon as I get home from work (within a few hours).

Works for me. :yes:

Me too, though i had to add the IP address to the text file as it was still reporting the old address.



(EDIT - For instructions on that, see HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6869.msg120969#msg120969)

Hahaha not a chance Legz! As much as I hate to hear about her in the arms of another man, Ade you go for it son - I know she'll be thinking of me ;)

Not put in any proper laps around here yet, out this evening unfortunately but will be on later after Mosport if anyone's about.

Take a random guess mate... I'm sure at a minimum you'll catch Ade & me ;D

Just been on-line at long beach - connected no problem

Can someone will to let me know the relative speeds of the cars we can select - just list quickest to slowest if you can.

Cheers
Laurie

At a guess, I would say

E-Type
AAR Cuda
Healey
250 SWB

Lobby tested, working fine, got in without problems.

Is the race length correct on the race announcement? 60 minutes? :-\

P.S. I connected to lobby and game successfully.

The race length is correct at "~50mins" (it will be just short of that).
The practice length is the one set at 60mins. It just gives people a chance to get on the race server early. ;D



EDIT- have now done 1:43.5 in Jag & 1:45.5 in Plymouth. The Plymouth will need a special driver on this track to benefit from its grunt

Sorry, must have been having brain fade and reading the wrong line, twice. :wacko:

Also joined server without any issue.  :D

Well done PR - brilliant news bud.

Didn't make it back in time in the end last night but looking forward to some much needed practice this eve.

Any chance of bumping up the race length just slightly for this evening, always great fun those practice races but they're a little on the short side (unless it's Bathurst ;))?

No problems connecting to server. I'll be around later for some much needed pracci.

I've now done a good few laps in all four & the order for me is:
E-Type (just shades it)
F250 (much faster round here then expected & quicker on the straight then the Jag)
Healey (probably the easiest & nippy round the bends)
Plymouth (It requires someone better then me to get the best out of it here)

Thanks Geoffers and Legzy for the advice.  I'll be in the E-Type tonight

Laurie

NOTE - Remember that when you register your new lobby account, you then have to log in with your new details... not your old details that will still be there at the log on screen  ;)

I can't get in at all. I can see the lobby no problem from my workstation, but from my games box I can do the "Direct IP" login but can't get into the lobby. :'(

Well that was a let down, I never got the start, no green light, everyone started moving, so I went and got DQ'd for a false start.

I'd actually practiced for this, was just starting to get zoned in (not enough laps in qually to really get my eye in) and was hoping for race-winning pace here.  I wonder if it was caused by the new way of connecting. 

Anyway, very disappointing.  :(

I was so happy for my return to GTL races online that I had trade the E-Type for the Healey to put more variety to the field. Three weeks without racing at SROUK was making me crazy  ;D
Not unhappy at all with the 10th place in qualification, I saw the Shark's Healeys behind me which gave me some confidence for the race.
Lost a place for a Shark at the start,  :P but soon I got it back, meantime I was in a huge fight with Simon, Spanner, Dynosaur and API and later with Geoffers aswell.
A full battle race tonight, fortunatly. Always busy and concentrate, awesome!  :)
Spent the most of the time with teammie Dyno but he was unlucky near the end.  :(
Congrats for your win mr_oily, fantastic pace, and to podium finishers.
It seemed like all drivers had an extra care driving tonight, thumps up for all, great driving.  :notworthy:

Now I am sure, albeit I like a lot P&G, I will never left GTL. Well, unless Simbin make a GTL2  :whistling:

Cheers

Really enjoyed that tonight. The E-Type was obviously the car to be in, so hats off to those who went for the other options. I took full advantage of the easy drive and qualied in 9th.

Had an ok start and kept in there on a hard but fairly fought 1st lap and settled in 9th. Spanner was easing ahead of me for the first half of the race but when he spun at T2 I took 8th where I remained to the flag. I had a nervous time with Simon closing in on me in his Healey at one point, but kept the concentration together and managed to pull out a 5 or 6 sec gap for the latter part of the race.

Congrats to pody.


Totally agree Paulo. Definitely something magic about GTL. 8)

Usual problem with the Healey - no front tyre temperature. Wasn't too bad for the first few laps and had some fun battling the heavy iron, but after that had nobody to race, and once the rears went off the car lost all sense of balance and didn't want to brake in a straight line either. :(

Even more frustrating was Shark turning up with (alledgedly) no practice and immediately being nearly two seconds a lap faster. :-[

Think that might be my last outing in GTL. The cars just feel so numb compared to P&G. :-\

Unfortunately the straight line speed disadvantage of the Healey was really telling here and despite being very consistent and and going pretty quickly I thought, I could only manage 9th.

The worst thing was that after the first few laps which I can only describe politely as "controlled melee" I never raced anyone. 45 minutes of lonely racing. The Healey itself made that fun for about 10 minutes, but after that I was fairly bored. :'(


I've raced at Long Beach once before in GTL in '79 cars, so maybe that helped. I located my last Healey setup from Trois Riveria and then changed it wildly anyway. I'll post the setup on the team forums see if it helps or wheter you are just so old now that you can't keep up with the youff.

The front end is not what the Healey is about, you just press the right handle pedal a lot more if you are understeering and the back end will wheel spin it's way around to help out the front. You really have to throw the Healey around but with precision and care at the same time.


I hope that's not true.

I really feel the cars are a lot more alive in GTL than PnG. PnG more realistic? Maybe, but I still think GTL is more fun. The Healey in PnG is boring as hell, but the Healey in GTL is probably one of the top 3 most fun cars to drive in any class.

LOL, how many times have we had that debate. I remember the good old days when I couldn't imagine more fun then GTL & PnG did nothing to change my opinion initially. Then I 'got it' & with fear of MJ reading this... I have more fun driving the PnG cars now :-[ ;D.


Anyhow, managed my best finish of the GTL season last night despite selecting the slightly less obvious F250 choice. A car that I've always felt let down by before, but I did feel quite happy in it on this track. A note on the track... this track was selected to race because it hadn't been used here since June'07 & got great pre/post race reviews. Pleased we did & hope the gap till the next one isn't so long.

Set a PB in qually to start 6th, held it there through the first lap till someone span out at the last hairpin gifting me 5th. Then harassed Geoffers for a few laps till I managed to take advantage of my Fezza's extra prancing horses at the start of the back straight (after going up the ramp). Then fended him off till I got a little cushion & then he just disappeared. Guess you had an off? So the next driver was then Dyno (or PR?) & I had a 10 sec cushion. Started to catch Ade in front who was about 7 secs up the road, but once I got the gap own to under 5 secs... he pulled his finger out & was long gone by the end. Though I was getting a bit nervous when Geoffers who had obviously recovered was on a late charge.

Managed to bring it home in 4th, behind the three championship leaders. :smartass:

See you all at either Watkins Glen  (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6861.msg119412#msg119412) on Tuesday or Albert Park  (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6374.msg110433#msg110433) on Thursday

Yep! Clipped the wall at T10 with the rear wheel arch & spun.

Good race though, had a battle with someone nearly all race. Was 4th early on until the car developed a bit of an understeer & Legzy found a way past. Hung on for a few laps until the spin which dropped me behind Dyno & PR. The extra power got me past PR & then spent several laps chasing Dyno's E-type before he ran wide a the last turn & I got through. PR also past Dyno & was never too far behind after that. The understeer had gone away by now & I set my sights on a vain attempt to catch Legzy (great driving in Fezza, by the way). I gained about 0.5s a lap but still would have needed another half dozen laps to get on terms. So had to settle for 5th, well pleased though as I'm usually crap on street tracks.

Congrats to Oily, Lazlow & Ade, I thought I could stay with you in the early laps until the understeer set in ::)

May not make next week, as it is Mrs Geoffers' birthday!  :angel:

What an amazing track - well done organising ones. Chuffed to bits with finally getting that gold colour on the standings table, honestly thought I might make it to the end of the season without ever repeating my one and only victory - I had this horrible feeling I was going to clip the inside wall at one of these corners and that would be game over but somehow I managed to keep it pointing in the right direction.

I actually feel for Jim as he was the one who told me in practice to crank up the camber front and rear which instantly shaved a second off so thanks and apologies!

I knew tyres would be a problem so spent the first half playing a difficult game of trying to manage them with Lazlow breathing down my neck who never really left me in peace for more than a lap or so! To be honest he was driving really well, applying the pressure was putting me off just enough and he was absolutely all over me in the braking zones so I'm not sure how it would have worked out if I'd have tried to raise the pace...probably in that wall I mentioned lol. Having the gaffer on the bonnet for moral support during the latter half must've done the trick - sorry you weren't feeling it last night WT but cheers for the assistance  ;)

Fair play Tibs for choosing the Fezza and great drive Legz. You looked quick in practice and that was a fine result - I did some laps in it and just couldn't get the thing around the corners so I can only imagine what race distance must've been like. Same for PR, that was an outstanding drive just there below the radar....I can only think you were doing qually laps constantly to bring it home where you did!

Just three magnificent tracks left...

P.s - apologies for being slightly antisocial in chat at various points throughout - all getting tight at the top and I don't have much spare capacity at the best of times  ::)

A difficult race for me. Did not handle Jag with care, and that melted the tyres which made the handling very interesting. Couple of lapses in concentration and I ran wide and lost places. This track is so tight, you really can´t sleep at the wheel for too long before you pay for it.

What I remember were some battles with Geoffers and PR, lost both, hehe. Good driving! And a big sorry for Ade, I tapped you in the last corner before the start straight, waited but if I did you damage, please report! I was not careful enough coming to that tight right hander.

Good to be back but it made me realise how much i struggle with these types of cars.

Got on early to try and give the jag a go using Oilys setup and after a bit of a tweak instantly went 2 secs quicker than i've been round here. With the high camber front and rear it was pretty oversteery and thought i'd quickly put some laps in with race fuel. After about 20mins it didnt feel too bad. Couldnt beat my first run time and was hoping to stay in the top 10 but just slipped out. Managed to get a blinding start and was up in about 6th after alot of jostling but it took a while to settle down where i didnt need to be so defensive!
Managed to slowly gain on Goldtop behind and even managed to gain on Dyno and Pribero ahead but was struggling early on with the tyres going off, probably just was pushing too hard so just ended up going backwards and seemed to hit most of the wall in or out of the corners until finally catching the second corner wrong and span around. Got going just before Alex with API stuck behind came past and thought i was going to managed to keep ahead of Alex struggling around in the 'Cuda. Sadly API got past and quickly managed to zoom up to me and got past as i was struggling with traction both ends.

With a few laps left somehow i was going to be short on fuel even when i started with more than i should have needed. Somehow i managed to roll across line with the engine dieing just before the grid lines!

Interesting race. Left my Intimidator-act in the trailer before the race.
Primary target was to keep the Cuda out of the wall and was expecting to be lapped 3 times.
So I was a bit surprised with my 14th qually position. The Cuda is so sloooooooow in the twisty bits and really a handful on the semi-straight because the back was stepping out with each gearshift  :o
Race started well with fellow Cuda driver Matt next to me. Had to smile when we went 2 wide to the twisty bits and keeping the rest of the field behind us in what looked like a traffic jam  ;D Then saw Matt spinning with another car, hope it was not my doing  :(

Managed to somewhat fight a Shark in the Austin (Simon I believe). Apologies for the tap, miscalculated the number of miles to stop the whale tanker  :-\
Had a bit a lonely run after that but was too busy dragging the car around the track; didn't ha time to worry about tire wear for once :D
Halfway the race API came ploughing to the field. Tried to give him a fight but was a sitting duck on the ramp (well spotted API!).

Managed to finish the race just one lap down so I was happy  :angel:

Great to see the return of the regulars API, PR and Ligel!

See you all next week down-under.

Sorry guys was out having a birthday meal last night for today :)

Some people have got their priority's all wrong  ;) ;D
Happy Birthday