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Title: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 29, 2009, 05:23:16 PM +0100
All members welcome - no registration required

Practice 1:20:00(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:10(25 mins)
Race:20:35(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT1 or GTC from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.10.5.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics).
Weather: Changeable, seeded from real-world conditions.
Track: Estoril.
Race Start Time: 14:00.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Upper Endurance
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=219;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Jayblue on September 30, 2009, 11:44:27 PM +0100
Well i thought i'd get the ball rolling here. My first race with the GT1/GTC cars, so i have only tested a few and still need to make a decision on which car and class to go in. Lots of choice again so i doubt i will get to test them all but at least if last week was anything to go by the racing will be good close stuff!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Truetom on October 01, 2009, 06:29:39 AM +0100
Tried a few laps and I'm Marcos is really clumsy here. :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 01, 2009, 08:06:41 AM +0100
I think perhaps I should actually do some practice for this one. :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: lazlow on October 01, 2009, 09:54:08 AM +0100
Looking forward to this race....this is the track where I had my first win in GTR2....can't wait. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: spanner on October 01, 2009, 06:19:33 PM +0100
I assume it will be up after the GTL race?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Legzy on October 01, 2009, 06:31:42 PM +0100
I assume it will be up after the GTL race?
Does a leopard have spots? ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: spanner on October 03, 2009, 09:39:55 AM +0100
I was looking forward to this, but the Aston isn't so nice. I'm spinning the rears all the time, struggling with traction but managed a 1.36. Annoyingly my first flying lap in a car i've never driven before but admittedly its the 550, i went quicker than i've managed in the Aston so far.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Stewprovo on October 03, 2009, 10:54:19 AM +0100
Dropping down into GTC 997 for this, the GT1Aston is too much hard work for my poorly thumb, managed a mid 43 with hard front, med rear + 100l of fuel, so I'm happy after my first practice.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Joss on October 04, 2009, 06:10:58 PM +0100
Can't see the server? Has the name changed?

Will praccy offline


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Legzy on October 04, 2009, 06:27:51 PM +0100
Can't see the server? Has the name changed?

Will praccy offline
I've restarted the server, got an error 1st time about broadcasting in lobby, but was fine 2nd time. Please confirm all OK now?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: spanner on October 04, 2009, 06:34:35 PM +0100
Server is up and people are on it


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Jimmie on October 04, 2009, 08:58:10 PM +0100
Well that ended fast... start of 2nd lap to be precise.

I'm not mad at you :) but it was a bit crazy aproaching my rear end with that speed though! ;)




Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Stewprovo on October 04, 2009, 09:42:42 PM +0100
Quali'd badly to start with, then dc'd with 8 mins to go, came back, had chance for 2 runs, was punted off by GT1's on both occasions. Started from back with 125 mins of fuel, hard/hard, with plan to go well into race before a quick change of fronts only....I wish!!!!! front hards only just made it to 40 mins at 78% wear, had a small spin and was collected by a GT40, sorry to whoever that was. Too much damage to continue, was just causing probs for other peeps, so quit out. Hope to see you all next week.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: spanner on October 04, 2009, 09:53:16 PM +0100
After the disasterous laps in concentration i was kicking my self while also trying to drive a damaged car. Was working my way through the GTC's but with the leader catching me though and the tyres getting increasingly worn and the car handling getting worse i thought i'd quit out.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Jayblue on October 04, 2009, 10:15:06 PM +0100
My quali went ok, i was expecting a slightly better time but the track was so busy - not used to that much traffic and struggled to get a good clear lap, then when i did i blew a corner somewhere!  :laugh:

I hope my formation lap was ok for everyone, as all my previous leagues did standing starts it was my first time. I initially got away well on the opening laps and was comfortable with my laptimes and pace. As the race progressed my car developed bad oversteer and Jon started to catch me. The track temp also dropped by over 10 degrees, leaving my hard rear tyres cold! So by our stops Jon was right with me. I changed to mediums all round and got a good stop, don't know what strategy Jon was running but we pitted together and i left with a 22 second lead  :o

After that it was just a case of keeping it all together and concentrating when passing the GTC's. Throughout the race everyone was once again very helpful in this regard so thanks guys. I think i need more practice at lapping people though as Jon seemed to consistantly make up time in the traffic. Overall delighted with a first pole and win here, and i think i did enough to claim the race lap record too which will be nice. Congrats to Jon & Busi and the GTC podiums!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Joss on October 04, 2009, 10:15:22 PM +0100
That was quite fun, and it was good being really close to TT and Busi in stint one. It's not as nice though when you're the slow one in a group, I feel like I've spent the whole season holding people up so far!

Car felt OK on new rubber, but fell off a cliff during stint 1, no grip at all so I just had to try to stay on. I think I probably scared people behind me with earlier than expected braking. Stop went well but I lost too much time before it to jump Gazza, who just held on before the end. Was going to try (probably in vain) to draft past to the line but got baulked. Oh well.

The Viper is fun in small doses, but I'm looking forward to getting out of it now :)

Unlucky to Ginsters (it was mad with all those cars so close) and grats podiums :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Manteos on October 04, 2009, 10:15:29 PM +0100
I think I deserve a DQ for this one... Mandatory pit not respected for me... I really forgot it... I put 100 litres at the start and I saw that it was enough to finish, but I haven't complied the rules :(... Sorry to everybody.

Cu soon :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: JonM_uk on October 04, 2009, 10:25:21 PM +0100
Good race for me :) I hadn't done so much praccy for this event but I think my setup was good and I was driving to my limit come 10 laps in. Qualified in 3rd behind JayBlue and SBG and was very happy with that. Thought I'd go for light fuel for the race and try and put myself in contention for the win by getting past SBG and JayBlue and see if I got lucky at the pit stops. The race started and I got hit in the rear on the pace lap causing a bit of damage(7.9s in pits) but it didn't seem to do anything to the car so all was well :) I chased SBG for a good few laps without really being able to put him under pressure but I got lucky when his tyres must've been wearing and he spun in the chicane letting me past. I then started closing JayBlue down a few tenths a lap from about 6-7s back I managed to close right in for the pitstops but I didn't park the car in the correct place for the pit so lost a bit of time there. After that was 22s behind JayBlue and decided to really go for it.......But the gap just kept increasing and there was no way I could live with the pace of JayBlue even if I had fuelled 100L and got the pitstop spot on 2nd would've been my best possible finish. Busi Started closing me down at the end but he just didn't have enough laps to catch me. Seems with his pace he should have been fighting for the lead. Well done all great race. Grats to JayBlue and Shark on their wins and all who took part 8)
see you next time :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: picnic on October 04, 2009, 10:28:04 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20091004%20U10UE/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: goldtop on October 04, 2009, 10:33:08 PM +0100
Quali'd mid GTC grid and filled the Z4 for a late fuel only stop. Had a good first half of the race and opened up a comfortable gap behind. I was just about hanging on to Legzy but never really with condistent pace to put under pressure. I hit someone who I think was discoing just before T1 damaging my front suspension. I lost concentration after that and started going backwards with lots of silly mistakes :wetfish:

Awkward track for GT1/GTC mix; few places to let the GT1s through without losing time.

Congrats to podies :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: API on October 04, 2009, 10:34:32 PM +0100
Argh! My screen got frozen, again! Last time this happened was in the previous Upper Endurance race. Nothing during the last two weeks and then...

I'm so sorry if someone (Matt?) did hit me. I really have to do something for this problem.

Close one picnic! Just a few more laps...  :P ;D

Well done winners and pods.  :)

Edit. Sorry goldtop  :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: picnic on October 04, 2009, 10:37:53 PM +0100
Close one picnic! Just a few more laps...  :P ;D

18 mins to go - 18 sec gap
17 mins to go - 17 sec gap
....
0 mins to go - 0 sec gap

Just lucky you didn't have time to work out where I was so slow ;) Well driven to keep taking that time off me consistently. Sounds like I was lucky you had that screen freeze! Bad luck.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Truetom on October 04, 2009, 10:40:01 PM +0100
That was quite fun, and it was good being really close to TT and Busi in stint one. It's not as nice though when you're the slow one in a group, I feel like I've spent the whole season holding people up so far!
That was some of the scarier GT1 racing so far for me. 4 in the row for a good number of laps, changing positions, side by side driving, 3 abreast :scared: into T1!. :eek:
I'm glad I'm making progress in The Beast, can even do close racing on a twisty track like Estoril - imagine that. :P Marcos is fine when the tyres last, then it's like driving on a jelly. :D
I think I probably scared people behind me with earlier than expected braking.
Almost got me a few times, especially in T1 but I was never close enough for a safe dash inside. I wish I was bolder. ;)

Nice going there, Busi, Freq, Gazzer. 8)

Grats to Jayblue, owning Jon is a major trick. :P
Well done also to "Ugly Butt" Shark for GTC win. :thumbup2:  

GTCs were great. 8)
Darn, I didn't lap H@l. :(   ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: nsfast on October 04, 2009, 10:49:43 PM +0100
had a small spin and was collected by a GT40, sorry to whoever that was.

No problem Stewprovo. You were sideways in the middle of the track and I choose the wrong side to go.   ::)

Good race tonight but a bit messy. I was very pleased with qualifying and got off to a reasonable start. However, a punt from behind on at turn 1 cost me places on lap 2 and some damage.

It took me a while to get going from then but by the pitstops I was running well again and up into P7. Looking forward to 2nd half until I got a Stop n Go for pit lane speeding.  :'( I felt sure I slowed down enough before entering the pits...so not sure why. Demotivated with a large gap in front and behind I started to take it easy to the end of race. Shame because I seemed have reasonable pace tonight.

Congrats to the podiums.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Gazza49er on October 04, 2009, 10:54:30 PM +0100
The race started and I got hit in the rear on the pace lap causing a bit of damage

Sorry about that Jon, my thumb slipped and hit my speed limiter button (scared the be jesus out of me)  :o

That was good fun. Qualified ahead of what i thought putting me between some aliens which put some pressure on me. Started pretty well, Freq got down the inside of me in T1 but i managed to cut back and regain the spot and eek out a little gap. Think it helped me that Busi was battling Freq which let me get away. SBG also got inside me on T1 but again i cut back and got the place back on exit then he seemed to dissapear.

Messed up the pit stop a bit and came out only a couple of secs ahead of Freq. Made one mistake which let Busi through but then just had enough to hold of Freq  8)

Grats podiums.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: JonM_uk on October 04, 2009, 11:05:34 PM +0100
The race started and I got hit in the rear on the pace lap causing a bit of damage

Sorry about that Jon, my thumb slipped and hit my speed limiter button (scared the be jesus out of me)  :o



NP's man it didn't seem to affect the car just had to remember not to repair it at pitstop



Grats to Jayblue, owning Jon is a major trick. :P


TBF I can see it happening a fair bit ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Prof on October 04, 2009, 11:06:03 PM +0100
I think I deserve a DQ for this one... Mandatory pit not respected for me... I really forgot it... I put 100 litres at the start and I saw that it was enough to finish, but I haven't complied the rules :(... Sorry to everybody.
You may wish to submit an incident report to remind the moderator who takes the race.

An enjoyable race qualifying 2nd and taking 3rd behind a very fast Shark (well driven boss) and Lazlow - great race long battle but your soft tyre strategy for the second stint won you the place deservedly.

Well done to the GT1 drivers for finding sensible places to overtake tonight, it must have been difficult at some points of the track.

An enjoyable race and a podium on my birthday - my best present  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 04, 2009, 11:12:01 PM +0100
What a waste there. Silly spin let Jon go by and dafter attempt to pass Gazza, sorry for that, then hit rear of a GTC who took me by suprise (prolly my bad, will look at replay) and that was that. Good pace JayBlue (nothing to do with CAFC that?) and congrats to all. I've had a shocker all in all in GT1 enduro so can we start S10 again?

An enjoyable race and a podium on my birthday - my best present  :)

Happy Birthday and congrats to Prof and all runners and riders.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Busi on October 04, 2009, 11:17:55 PM +0100
I got in with just 10 mins of quali left, that totally compromised my race. First flying lap I did was not good, next was also slow. Up for a last chance, I found traffic in the last two corners when I was for sure gonna take 3rd if not better, but thats what happens with multiclass racing, you can't risk it all to a single attempt :) so I started back in 6th, once again in the Lambo-gimmie some top speed!-Murcielago :laugh:

I spent the whole stint trying to overtake the cars ahead, TT then FreQ then the two at the same time ;D brilliant fight with you guys and not a single touch I think! :) when I finally overtook them both I was up to 4th. I had a reasonably fast pitstop which would have allowed me to leapfrog Gazza for 3rd, but silly me I spun as I exited the pits ::) and was still in 4th. I could soon overtake him though and Jon was nearly 10 seconds ahead. I started setting some qualifying laps but with traffic it was not too easy to catch him. I ended the race 2 seconds behind him, maybe without my silly mistake in the pit exit I could've given him a tough time, oh well happy with 3rd :)

Grats jayblue and all podiums!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: goldtop on October 04, 2009, 11:37:34 PM +0100

Edit. Sorry goldtop  :(

No problem mate. Hope you sort your freezes out soon.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 05, 2009, 07:35:02 AM +0100
Car balance felt good but I had no punch out of the corners and qualifying was a nightmare, barely able to get past GTCs and often found myself having to pass into braking zones which didn't help me or the GTC. Strange 'cause I expected to just fly by on the straight bits. ???

Looking at race pace I was miles off virtually the whole GT1 field, and 7th is way more than I deserve. :-\ Drove an almost mistake-free race, right up until the last few laps when I made a few stupid mistakes, one big one where I was talking on TeamSpeak and just totally lost track of where I was on the circuit and ran off; luckily didn't hit anything but almost handed the place to Hal9000. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Jayblue on October 05, 2009, 10:12:09 AM +0100
What a waste there. Silly spin let Jon go by and dafter attempt to pass Gazza, sorry for that, then hit rear of a GTC who took me by suprise (prolly my bad, will look at replay) and that was that. Good pace JayBlue (nothing to do with CAFC that?) and congrats to all. I've had a shocker all in all in GT1 enduro so can we start S10 again?


CAFC? Not sure what that stands for (although i'm sure i will look like a fool for asking!)  :D

Wiki says: CAFC may refer to:

Charlton Athletic football club, an English Championship football club.
Crewe Alexandra football club, an English football club.
United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit
Cobblestone Area Forming Cells
Commercial Activity Function Code
California Fire Safe Council

But i don't think its any of those!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Jayblue on October 05, 2009, 10:16:30 AM +0100

Grats to Jayblue, owning Jon is a major trick. :P




TBF I can see it happening a fair bit ;D

Somehow i doubt that. I'm expecting more races like Anderstorp, TBH i was more than suprised i was able to pull a gap last night, and far less suprised when you started catching me  8)

Also i think its fair to say at least at Estoril the 550 holds a slight advantage on raw pace, but having raced in it there before it choosing it minimized my setup and practice time requirements. As i'm not a factor in the championship i may well pick something else for our next race.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 05, 2009, 10:47:19 AM +0100
In my head, CAFC refers to Cardiff Football Club (no idea were I got the A bit from ;D), i.e. the Bluebirds. Bit of a "friendly" rivalry with Argyle that is all.

Congrats again on last night, good to have you aboard.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 05, 2009, 10:47:52 AM +0100
Well done also to "Ugly Butt" Shark for GTC win. :thumbup2:  

LOL, thanks. :fencing:

I only just got back home to get into qualifying near the start of the session and had done zero practice as usual. Luckily for me Estoril is one of my favorite circuits and I think it really suits the way I drive and the strengths of the Morgan.

Did some banker laps in qualifying to start with and made some setup adjustments. Unbelievably one of my banker laps put me on pole. I only had enough time for one fast lap and it was a blinder until I broke way too late for one of the turns near the end and that was that. I'm sure that was going to be under 1:40 so with a couple of minutes left I was fully expecting to pay the price with Lazlow and Prof going faster. However, to my surprise they didn't so I was very happy.

Did a full tank (now only 85 litres :'( :'( :)) and stopped at half way getting a new set of medium tyres and adding a bit of fuel. Worked very well indeed. Had consistent lap times through the whole 80 minutes and once I had started to pull away from Prof at the start I never looked back. Managed to build about 18-20 seconds before the first pit stop as Lazlow and Prof battled each other and then when all the pit stops were done later on (as Lazlow did a late one to switch to softs) I had over 50 seconds on everyone so I eased off and cruised home.

Very pleased with the win. I wish it could be Estoril every week as I love it, but I quite enjoy Magny Cours as well so I look forward to that.

Great drive from Prof for 3rd and the team championship in GTC is still a possibility with some good finishes I reckon. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Jayblue on October 05, 2009, 10:55:41 AM +0100
In my head, CAFC refers to Cardiff Football Club (no idea were I got the A bit from ;D), i.e. the Bluebirds. Bit of a "friendly" rivalry with Argyle that is all.

Congrats again on last night, good to have you aboard.

Ah i see, thanks for clearing it up  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 05, 2009, 11:18:45 AM +0100
You'll learn its just best to ignore some posters on here Jayblue  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Legzy on October 05, 2009, 12:58:11 PM +0100
Happy with my new Viper, happy with my driving (bar one lapse when near API)... but race was spoilt regularly by others. >:(

I was never close enough for a safe dash inside. I wish I was bolder. ;)
Please don't change TT, it is always a pleasure to let you lap me without fearing for my safety. Some of the other GT1 drivers could learn from your more patient approach :(.


A reminder for all on the rules on lapping:
   Lapping And Being Lapped
  • The lapped driver should not change their line on a straight whilst being lapped.
    A driver may elect to hold a tight line out of a corner and remain on the inside to allow a lapping driver to pass them using the normal racing line.
    Drivers should not suddenly slow in the middle of a corner unless they are on the outside and the lapping car is clearly inside them.
  • The lapped driver should hold a predictable line and allow the lapping driver to move around them. The lapped driver may blend off the throttle slightly to help the lapping car past; drivers being lapped by cars in the same or slower classes are strongly encouraged to do so.
    A driver should never lift off or brake on a straight with another driver right behind them.
  • The lapping driver should wherever possible prefer a pass under power to a pass on the brakes. 
    This frequently means being patient and going through at least one corner following the driver about to be lapped, setting the pass up.
  • A driver who is about to be lapped shall not unreasonably hold up the faster competitor.
This does not mean that three drivers can jump through a nonexistent gap together while halfway through a chicane, the very second you catch up to me >:(.

If it was a one off I'd let it go, but for a while there have been about five drivers that at each race seem to think they have right of way at all times & that their race is more important. You are wrong. Last night I was cut up by four of these drivers at least twice each (the other driver didn't attend ::)).

I put a lot of time & practice into my races & I don't want them to end early, please be more respectful to all drivers in future. >:(

Off to try to chillout now. ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Busi on October 05, 2009, 02:31:36 PM +0100
Wondering if I'm one of those. Sometimes the fights in GT1 are really really stressful, yesterday was one example with TT and FreQ ;D and sometimes that makes us see the GTC cars as something we need to get out of the way quickly. I try to be always clean, although sometimes the performance difference between my Lambo and the GTC's makes me catch them so quickly that I may then try to lap a bit too fast.

I really would like to know if my behaviour on that is ok or not, the only thing I want is to improve that. So anybody thinking I'm a bit too aggressive or unfair when lapping feel free to let me know, be it here or via PM, and we can openly talk about it without a problem - then only way to solve problems :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Truetom on October 05, 2009, 02:41:39 PM +0100
I was never close enough for a safe dash inside. I wish I was bolder. ;)
Please don't change TT, it is always a pleasure to let you lap me without fearing for my safety. Some of the other GT1 drivers could learn from your more patient approach :(.

It might come from old age natural wisdom. ;)
I'm a danger to myself in The Beast, so I see all other cars on track as a potential disaster. ;D   


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 05, 2009, 03:02:38 PM +0100
Do not discuss incidents in the forums.

If another driver has broken the rules, or driven without considering or respect for others, use the incident reporting system.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: H@L9000 on October 05, 2009, 03:15:42 PM +0100
Darn, I didn't lap H@l. :(   ;)

 :P

Not a great race for me. :(

I have never done well at this track, but I managed to have a few small fights with nsfast and gsi bob. I totally spooned passes on a couple of GTCs. Sorry guys. I was driving more like a 'F1, number 2 Renault driver' last night. I took a drive through after such shameful passing of GTCs, handing 7th to Dave. I could not catch back up to Dave and nsfast almost caught me at the end. A few more laps and nsfast would have had me. He had great pace.

All in all, I am happy with 8th. :)

Well done podiums. Thanks and apologies GTCs.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Legzy on October 05, 2009, 03:30:50 PM +0100
Do not discuss incidents in the forums.
It's alright Dave, you weren't one of them  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Truetom on October 05, 2009, 04:34:25 PM +0100
 :lol:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: jpv on October 05, 2009, 06:27:50 PM +0100
What a waste there. Silly spin let Jon go by and dafter attempt to pass Gazza, sorry for that, then hit rear of a GTC who took me by suprise (prolly my bad, will look at replay) and that was that.

Had just let another GT1 past in the fast kink and was going to return to the race line. Checked the rear view and saw you approaching on that side so decided to hold my current line instead. Guess it was too late for you to react, sorry! :(

Not much else to tell about my run, medium tyres were shot already 20 mins into the first stint, was completely out of pace at that point and sliding all over the track so decided to retire.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 05, 2009, 07:18:59 PM +0100
Had just let another GT1 past in the fast kink and was going to return to the race line. Checked the rear view and saw you approaching on that side so decided to hold my current line instead. Guess it was too late for you to react, sorry! :(

Agreed, I saw you returning to racing line and it was your change of mind that caught me out. It would be easy to tell you "just to hold your line" but, as you had three GT1's baring down on you at that point and split second to decide, can't see how anybodys to blame. No worries mate.

Just goes to show that there are two sides to this lapping lark mind  ;) 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Upper Endurance - Estoril (GP) - Oct 4
Post by: Legzy on October 05, 2009, 11:21:01 PM +0100
 :fencing: :-* ;)