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Title: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: miner2049er on October 02, 2009, 09:25:26 AM +0100
UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami (GP) - Oct 6

The third round of the Amateurs Trophy finds us at the South African circuit of Kyalami, first built in 1961 and first raced by F1 in 1966 following a major upgrade. A track of 2 halves the long straight should offer some great slipstreaming opportunities which could end in disaster entering the long and slippery T1 at Crowthorne, especially on lap one. There is a large run off area but most that use do not manage to find a quicker line than those who stay on the tarmac.

Ensure you have the pit wall in place. Those without it will be disqualified.

The standard papy track has a pit wall but there are patches available that remove it.  The absence of a pit wall will not stop you joining the race but anybody seen miraculously driving through the pit wall on the server replay will be disqualified.

Clive proof Instructions for restoring the pit wall are either;
1. Rename or remove the kyalami.trk and kyalami.3do files from your kyalami folder.
(That will give you back a wall you can crash your car into).

If you want the old papy Armco GFX back do this.
2. Rename or remove Armco_s.mip.

Chassis allocations are below- the same chassis will be used for all races this season, unless there is an adjustment agreed by the moderator.  Good luck!

Reserve drivers should not join the race server until there are only 30 mins of qualifying left.
No drivers should go out on track until there is 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Restrict chat to pit messages, and at the end of the race avoid chat until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Please be in the IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password)

Server = 5UKGPL
IP Address = TBC (ping myjamesonline.net)
Race Date = 06-10-2009
Time = 21:00
Track = Kyalami
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually Time = 30 minutes.
Race Length = 50% Grand Prix (40 laps)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=222;theme=6)

Chassis allocations are below, and the same chassis will be used for all races this season unless there is an adjustment agreed by the moderator.  Good luck!

FULL TIME DRIVERS
Hristo Itchov - BT7
Evil Clive - Honda
Ken Murray - BT11
John Roberts - BT11
Samb - BRM
FullMetalGasket - Honda
MikeBeattie - Cooper
FPolicardi - BT11
TurkeyMachine - BT11
JamesRye - BRM
Natan - BRM
Miner2049er - Lotus
Clutch - BT11
Podkreceny - Lotus
Ruud Savelkoul - Lotus

RESERVE DRIVERS
Phil Thornton - Ferrari
Steve B_1_rd - Ferrari
Asbejurn - Ferrari

Please use the updated 65 mod for this race.
If you have re-installed UKGPL over the summer break or are joining us for the first time, please don't forget to use the updated 65 mod which is available here: Jamesonline.net/UKGPL (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/1965mod_PATCH_v2.0.2_Setup.zip)

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Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Asbjeurn Tverberg on October 05, 2009, 01:45:55 PM +0100
Wont have time to practice for this race. Luckily I already have a setup (I believe) and I know the track well, so hopefully it wont take long to get into grips with it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on October 06, 2009, 09:49:09 AM +0100
Hopefully I'll get a nice tow in Qualifying.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 06, 2009, 10:28:50 AM +0100
Me too, I'm hoping to beat Evil's FL with my new and improved base setup  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: JamesRye on October 06, 2009, 02:13:37 PM +0100
OK, so I am hoping to compete in this one tonight.

I couldn't find a specific rules page for the amateurs racing, really all I need to know is: are we allowed shift r's if we rip the wheels off? followed by a sng?

Hopefully the install of the updated mod wont scupper my racing!

Jim


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: vosblod on October 06, 2009, 02:45:12 PM +0100
I couldn't find a specific rules page for the amateurs racing, really all I need to know is: are we allowed shift r's if we rip the wheels off? followed by a sng?
Not in Pro it won't let you shift/R.
The rules are accessible via the ukgpl.com frontpage https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/intro (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/intro)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: cure on October 06, 2009, 10:18:31 PM +0100
joined totally unprepared, ripped out the watkins glen setup. did a few laps, adjusted brake balance, camber values, slightly changed tire pressures and added some toe at the rear, did a few more laps, qualified 10th. did a couple of laps on race fuel load to finish off the practice.

for the race, i had a clean but slow start (i should really practice getting off the line with 65's, i'm fine with 67's) and was somewhere in the middle of the chain. as usual a few people went off in the first lap, so i was 8th at the end of the first lap. at the first corner of the 2nd lap, i overtook Fulvio to snatch 7th place.

a few laps later three people in front of me tangled at the first corner, leaving me in 4th, then a few laps later john and clive tangled as well at the first corner, handing me 2nd place.

jethro was awarded the lead and i was 1 second behind him. i was getting more and more used to the car lap after lap. jethro was throwing whatever car he had all over the place, making some small mistakes here and there. i decided to take it safe and pass at the straight since my lotus was alot faster there (even without a tow it seemed). made a half arsed move on one lap to show myself and then went past the next lap. led the race for a few laps and then parked it stupidly into the wall at a place where you shouldn't. race over.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Asbjeurn Tverberg on October 06, 2009, 10:21:15 PM +0100
I thought I did have a setup for this track. It turned out that I didn't. Started with a -67 setup and tweaked the gears to suit -65's and had a go. It turned out that it was way too slow, 3 seconds off the best. Started out last, got lapped by most of the field on lap 24, and logged off.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Clutch4 on October 06, 2009, 10:35:46 PM +0100
Oh dear. My best Amateurs Race so far, but still a DNF.

Enjoyed finally mixing it with the big boys at the front. Its taken me 2 years of owning GPL to manage that, so was quite happy. It seemed like everyone, including me was on the wragged edge and we were matching each other lap for lap.

Kicked myself when with 11 laps to go i selected Neutral and didn't release the clutch properly. The car slid into the barriers and the right side collapsed. Shame as i was in 3rd place, and could maybe have had a crack at 2nd, along with everyone else racing around me.

Enjoyed the racing and the laps flew by, but its a bit bitter sweet after my error. Shame, but good fun.  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 06, 2009, 10:58:02 PM +0100
I was loving that race until I messed it up on the exit of T2 and was fighting the steering for 100 yards and ended up in the fence on the inside. Couldn't get out of it.

Qualy was OK, but I had best sectors for a 23.8 and couldn't get near it. Best I managed was a 24.4something that put me 6th. Natan got the best start ever and breezed past me whilst the other BRM in front didn't move as quickly. So I was still 6th upon arrival to T1. There I avoided hitting anything (YAY!), and laughed quite hard when I saw cars flying off at T2 and then found myself in 4th with Hristo and Tim way down the order. H as it turned out was terminal in his BT7. After overtaking Natan I found myself 3rd behind the battling duo of evil and John. The 2 traded places and passing moves for a while and then found themselves a bit close into T1 on one lap. That got me very close to them and hoping they came to blows again. How right I was! John's attempted overtake on evil on the main straight was absolutely sidesplitting as the 2 cars pirouetted. To find me leading after being mid-grid was a pleasant surprise. With me, Ruud, Fulvio and Bartosz in close company we traded places until Ruud did the no-no at Sunset and killed his car, which left me in the lead for a short while until I fecked it T2 L14.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 06, 2009, 11:04:29 PM +0100
I can only appologise Hristo  :-[
As you had the advantage into turn 2 I backed off to give you the corner and pulled behind so you could see me.
Unfortunatly you obviously didn't as at almost the same moment you piled on the brakes and dispite attempting to avoid you and slow I caught your rear wheel   :-[
Totally unintentional as I was mearly trying to avoid holding you up and thereby allowing the field to swamp us.

After continuing from the fiasco I rejoined in dead last and drove my pants off to make up time.
Span to avoid (Phil I think) when he made a mistake in traffic a couple of laps in at T1 and rejoined in last but 1...

The red mist descended in force after that and I drove like a man possesed - slowly passing people as I went, sometimes they were good enough to fall off infront, other times I had to fight past.
Aside from prodding Fulvio's rear wheel in Clubhouse when he got sideways battling with the car infront (allowed him to rejoin in front only for him to be walloped by someone else 1 turn later!) I managed a totally clean fight back upto the front and with 10 to go was about 9-10 seconds behind James.
Kept my head down and drove in qualifying mode, started giving the car more and more revs as the laps dropped - the result was that I was gaining on him to the tune of a second a lap  :o
Not enough though - I finally crossed the line 0.8 behind James recording the fastest lap in the progress  :(

Hopefully SHE will forgive my mistake as a result of my climb back to the podium, and I won't be forced to wear the tiny fundoshi of excruciating agonies :ninja:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: miner2049er on October 06, 2009, 11:40:00 PM +0100
Well, not great. I won here last season in Novices and was faster than Ryeman. What a difference a season makes LOL.

In qually I had sectors for a 25 dead but couldn't put a lap together faster than an a high 25.

Started steadily and through one thing and another found myself in the dizzy heights of 6th. Had an interesting moment when Ryeman was trying to pass on the inside into T1 and evil was rejoining on the outside but I think Jim saw what was happening and backed out of the move, Clive seemed to lift too. If you did thanks, if you didn't, thanks for nothing ;).

I got some heat in the tyres but with fuel on board my setup was not a good one and I was only able to fight off Jim for a couple of laps and I had a couple of spins that put me next to last and 25 or so seconds off Phil Thornton so I set about chasing him down but could only match his laps or beat them for a couple then make a small mistake and lose it again.

20 or so laps from the end the setup came back to me and I felt more confident in it so I set my fastest race laps and caught Phil pretty much every lap and closed to within a second on the last lap but pushing too hard I ran wide at Sunset and the slim chance was gone.

I don't think I would have got him but one more lap and I would have had a chance.

Ho hum.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 06, 2009, 11:48:27 PM +0100
20 or so laps from the end the setup came back to me and I felt more confident in it so I set my fastest race laps and caught Phil pretty much every lap and closed to within a second on the last lap but pushing too hard I ran wide at Sunset and the slim chance was gone.

I don't think I would have got him but one more lap and I would have had a chance.
I'd given up the chase after Steve Bird, he was too quick for me and I was just trying to put in steady laps and you seemed to be 20 seconds behind for ages so I wasn't worried.  But then with 2 laps to go you appeared in my mirrors from nowhere and gave me the fright of my life.  So I pulled my finger out and tried a bit harder (set my fastest sector 4 time of the whole of praccy and race on lap 39).  It was just enough to make you push a bit too hard.  One more lap and I'd have been struggling :P. 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 07, 2009, 12:41:27 AM +0100
Aside from prodding Fulvio's rear wheel in Clubhouse when he got sideways battling with the car infront (allowed him to rejoin in front only for him to be walloped by someone else 1 turn later!)

From watching the replay it would seem that your airbourne adventures after hitting Bartoz were actually me - or at least an amplified me.
I assumed at the time someone else had barreled into us when you took off, as I'd only slid gently into you while the pair of you formed your roadblock  ;D
The replay shows no-one else so I must have managed to fit some extra lag goodness into my hit to send you flying  :whistling:

Sorry  :angel:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on October 07, 2009, 03:42:52 AM +0100
I can only appologise Hristo  :-[
As you had the advantage into turn 2 I backed off to give you the corner and pulled behind so you could see me.
Unfortunatly you obviously didn't as at almost the same moment you piled on the brakes and dispite attempting to avoid you and slow I caught your rear wheel   :-[
Totally unintentional as I was mearly trying to avoid holding you up and thereby allowing the field to swamp us.


Tim, I have no idea where you had the impression of what you speak. You were on the inside and in my blind spot, so I wouldn't even think of making the turn normally. Not to mention I braked later than normal in order to take the outside line, but you went in way too fast and right into my car. So I don't understand how exactly were you trying to avoid me there or what you mean by that.

I wish you and Jethro would cool off during early laps as you two always seem to be getting involved in all sorts of incidents, going a bit too hot headed and not willing to yield ever so slightly. That's my impression at least.

It's a 40 laps race, not 1 lap, and considering the advantage of your car and the possible tow from others, you shouldn't worry even if you drop a couple of positions early on. It's quite possible to win these races from just about any grid slot.

I'm bitterly disappointed, to say the least. See you next race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: JamesRye on October 07, 2009, 08:52:58 AM +0100
qualifying was close, but I did not have the raw pace for pole.

As I hadn't raced for ages I adopted a slow and steady approach. This wasn't supposed to include the start, where I got badly bogged down and dropped from 4th to 9th! By the end of the lap I was in p7 however and lapping slightly faster than those around me.

I had some excellent battles, especially with Evil Clive  ;D who was much faster than me but was clearly on the limit. Clive was able to take way more speed into the corners than me and was so sideways sometimes! Anyway, through attrition really I found myself in the lead and it was quite tense for the last few laps as Full Metal Gasket (Tim Muttram?) was over a second a lap quicker than me. Had the race been 1 lap longer then I surely would not have won.

Miner249 asks if I backed out of a move due to seeing an incident ahead.....yes I did is the answer. I really did not want controversy in this one. I only tried to pass people where I was sure that I could make it cleanly because I was on the receiving end of some stewards decisions in the novices for overly-optimistic moves.

Wasn't completely sure that the race had ended and on my warm down lap, someone spun at the hairpin and I couldn't avoid them....sorry about that.

James  :) :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: EvilClive on October 07, 2009, 02:11:33 PM +0100
After pipping Hristo for pole...nothing else really matters ;D....but as you asked, the Wazas did take the front 3 positions as she had instructed. ;)

Starting from pole ( which is actually quite rare for me ) at Kyalami is always a stressful position with the thunder of hoofs approaching J1 and watching for the dive up the inside or the one that gets the braking all wrong and sails straight through like a bowling ball. So, I was relieved to negotiate J1 unscathed and the pack had sorted itself into T2 ( or is that now J2?) so that was a little easier. I caught a glimpse of ariel action in my mirrors and when I had the opportunity to glance at prib I realised that Hristo and Tim had apparently committed Hari kari!!! :o So i thought I was the lone Waza after only 1/4 of a lap. :-\

John soon closed in and announced his presence by giving me a kick up the a** into T1. His Brab? was very obviously handling better on full fuel than my Honda especially on the brakes!!
I could see JW lurking behind him waiting for his chance to pounce, but was confident that as my fuel load came down I could match most of the opposition.
A lap or so later John got a better exit onto the straight and made his pass...almost...until warp appears to have intervened and the computer gods decreed that we had made contact and sent both cars into orbit!! Miraculously the Waza survived intact again and I recovered down in 9th place with the disconcerting sight of a Dino Ferrari driven by Phil in my mirrors?? ( must remember to change that for the next 65 race ::) )

The climb back up through the field was fun and both Clutch and James proved just quick enough to make a clean pass difficult until they made mistakes. The leading group all  made mistakes and after much switching of positions eventually I was up to 2nd and chasing James who had slipped into a comfortable lead. I was closing the gap each lap and was confident of catching James long before the end of the race.. then I decided for some reason not to bother braking for J1!!! :-\ I plead old age and failing faculties.  This dropped me back to about 6th after I was careful on my rejoin and allowed a few cars through. The next few laps simply compounded my brain failure moment and I made a few more mistakes before regaining my composure and starting the chase all over again.

I made it up to 3rd with Tim and James a speck in the distance and not enough laps to get on terms, so I settled for bringing home a 3rd podium slot for HER.

All in all a great race and although it seemed very long it did allow the opportunity for recovering from mistakes and getting back up to the front. I guess the real secret would be not to make mistakes,  that might be good in theory but............


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: JamesRye on October 07, 2009, 02:29:01 PM +0100
"I plead old age and failing faculties"

I wonder how old people who play GPL are because it is an old game now and I guess it doesn't get many new recruits. For the record, I turned 30 on the 28th!  :(

Jim


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Kruger Enge on October 07, 2009, 03:12:07 PM +0100
"I plead old age and failing faculties"

I wonder how old people who play GPL are because it is an old game now and I guess it doesn't get many new recruits. For the record, I turned 30 on the 28th!  :(

Jim
There are no old people in GPL James... just those that have been born earlier or later.

ALL GPLers are in their prime, you should know that by now ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on October 07, 2009, 03:42:42 PM +0100
"I plead old age and failing faculties"

I wonder how old people who play GPL are because it is an old game now and I guess it doesn't get many new recruits. For the record, I turned 30 on the 28th!  :(

Jim

Then you're by far the older, James! All the rest of us are in their 10s or 20s!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: john roberts on October 07, 2009, 03:50:17 PM +0100
John soon closed in and announced his presence by giving me a kick up the a** into T1. His Brab? was very obviously handling better on full fuel than my Honda especially on the brakes!!

very sorry about that Clive i wasn't even thinking of overtaking at that point , guess that while catching you up that i'd been braking later into turn one and it caught me out when you went sideways , i did wait for you to recover but then i had a pesky brab  behind me .

A lap or so later John got a better exit onto the straight and made his pass...almost...until warp appears to have intervened and the computer gods decreed that we had made contact and sent both cars into orbit!!

up like a rocket ... down like a stick for me !

pity about the warp as it was shaping up to be a great battle Clive .

john


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: john roberts on October 07, 2009, 03:52:44 PM +0100
"I plead old age and failing faculties"

I wonder how old people who play GPL are because it is an old game now and I guess it doesn't get many new recruits. For the record, I turned 30 on the 28th!  :(

Jim

Then you're by far the older, James! All the rest of us are in their 10s or 20s!  ;D

wouldn't that make the very youngest still in there nappies ?

john


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 07, 2009, 06:24:19 PM +0100
Only when you decide to give them a kick up the ass! ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: miner2049er on October 07, 2009, 07:34:02 PM +0100
Results imported.

Submit your reports please, surely somebody must report Evil for driving sideways when forwards will do perfectly well.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 07, 2009, 07:50:32 PM +0100
Can somebody just clarify the PP situation? Does it actually make a difference to the championship points stakes or not? I have 4 in a nice yellow box that won't go away this season.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: bernie on October 07, 2009, 08:00:56 PM +0100
Can somebody just clarify the PP situation? Does it actually make a difference to the championship points stakes or not? I have 4 in a nice yellow box that won't go away this season.

A bit like points on a driving licence only  you can earn double or triple points for certain on or off track activities of artistic merit.

for really bumper scores you need to organise something like a whipping orgy preferably having a neo nazi theme  ;D

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 07, 2009, 08:28:33 PM +0100
Waddaya think I am, Mad Max? ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: john roberts on October 07, 2009, 08:32:45 PM +0100
Waddaya think I am, Mad Max? ;D

give the poor boy a fair crack of the whip !

john


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 07, 2009, 08:41:44 PM +0100
Can somebody just clarify the PP situation? Does it actually make a difference to the championship points stakes or not? I have 4 in a nice yellow box that won't go away this season.
Your licence endorsements are listed in your racing history (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=2660;sa=racing_history) between lap records and full event entry list.  The dates the yellow cards expire are listed there.  Don't ask me to explain the detail you can read it here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.msg54460#msg54460), we (UKGPL) piggy back on the SRou (UKGTR) system.  So whatever they do with yellow cards we do too.

If you want to know how the yellow cards affect your championship points read this (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/yellow_card_example).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: bernie on October 07, 2009, 08:47:37 PM +0100
Waddaya think I am, Mad Max? ;D

give the poor boy a fair crack of the whip !

john

Only if I get an invite  ;D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: bernie on October 07, 2009, 08:51:34 PM +0100
Quote
Race 1.
Offence 1, WARNING given, no penalty
driver has 1 yellow card point
Offence 2, PENALTY given, 2 places lost
driver has 3 yellow card points
Offence 3, WARNING given, no penalty
driver has 4 yellow card points

Race 2.
Offence 1, WARNING given, 1 place lost for previous yellow card points
driver has 5 yellow card points
Offence 2, CAUTION given, no places lost for previous yellow card points
driver has 5 yellow card points
Offence 3, PENALTY given, 2 places lost + 1 extra for the 5 yellow card points = 3 places
driver has 7 yellow card points

Race 3.
Offence 1, WARNING given, 2 places lost for the 7 yellow card points
driver has 8 yellow card points
Offence 2, PENALTY given, 2 places + 3 extra for the 8 yellow card points = 5 places
driver has 10 yellow card points

(Total of 13 places lost)

It may be easier (at least for the footballing fraternity) to think of a red card being equal to 2 yellow cards. Drivers effectively get a yellow card for a warning and a red card for a penalty. Each red card a driver holds amounts to an extra place penalty for subsequent warnings and penalties.




So simple really  ::)




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: EvilClive on October 07, 2009, 09:11:27 PM +0100
Results imported.

Submit your reports please, surely somebody must report Evil for driving sideways when forwards will do perfectly well.

I only drive sideways so that I am slower and give the rest of you guys a chance ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Hristo Itchov on October 08, 2009, 05:31:42 AM +0100
Results imported.

Submit your reports please, surely somebody must report Evil for driving sideways when forwards will do perfectly well.

I only drive sideways so that I am slower and give the rest of you guys a chance ::)

Yeah, SHE installs special bent wheels on his car so he can't keep a straightline and make the Championship more interesting (and worth running at all). Sometimes SHE goes as far as put on 3 wheels only!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Asbjeurn Tverberg on October 08, 2009, 12:16:39 PM +0100
I only drive sideways so that I am slower and give the rest of you guys a chance ::)
You should drive more sideways then, so maybe I get a chance as well.  :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: fpolicardi on October 08, 2009, 12:47:41 PM +0100
Aside from prodding Fulvio's rear wheel in Clubhouse when he got sideways battling with the car infront (allowed him to rejoin in front only for him to be walloped by someone else 1 turn later!)

From watching the replay it would seem that your airbourne adventures after hitting Bartoz were actually me - or at least an amplified me.
I assumed at the time someone else had barreled into us when you took off, as I'd only slid gently into you while the pair of you formed your roadblock  ;D
The replay shows no-one else so I must have managed to fit some extra lag goodness into my hit to send you flying  :whistling:

Sorry  :angel:

Np Tim, it wasn't your fault the second tap, on my replay i saw that I hit Bart on my outside drifting on him in the first esse, sorry Bart.
About the first tap at Clubhouse I would have taken more easy if I were you, you had two car ahead battling very close and leaving no room for a smart pass there. You would have me easily on the following straight as you did later in the race. Rye has to thank you for his win, he flew away unscathed and got a good gap to manage till the end, anyway great driving Rye to keep it to the metal till the end. :)
My engine bogged down at last lap despite I had babied it avoiding to overrevving , maybe he got some damage in the airbourne or the frequent tows on the straight. I lost two spot crawling to the end  :'(
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: Podkrecony_Ziutek on October 08, 2009, 02:55:11 PM +0100
Before the race I wasn't sure about my racing pace. For last two weeks I was trying to find good setup, but nothing has worked. On Monday evening I remembered myself about Geoff's last season setup. I've tyred it and it worked for me, but I didn't had the time to try it with race fuel.

In qual I couldn't find anybody to give me some tow, so my time was good only for P9.
Thanks to others missfortune at the end of lap 1 I was on P6. On Lap 5 I saw two BRM's spinning into T1. To avoid big crash I've spun my car. Luckily I lost only one position.
I've catch leading group and again thanks to other drivers mistakes I founded myself on P4 at Lap 9.
At that time Ruud was leading with Jethro second and Fulvio third. One lap later Ruud made mistake and I was on P3.
Two laps later I've passed Fulvio in T1 and one lap later Jethro trow him out of the race, leaving me on P1.
I'm still not used to drive as leader(especially when I'm racing with "The Big Boys") ams instead trying to made fast laps I'm looking in my mirrors all the time. That was the reason why I made mistake into Sunset Bend on lap 20.
On lap 21 few cars had crash in Clubhouse Bend, I've passed them but I've made contact with Fulvio in Esses

on my replay i saw that I hit Bart on my outside drifting on him in the first esse, sorry Bart.

Np Fulvio, I think I could give you little bit more space in there, so lets say that it's our both fault ;)

After that I rejoined on P4, then I saw Evil and Clutch recovering from accident in Leeukop Bend. I've managed to pass them both before T1.
I've made few mistaken on that lap and Clutch was able to made a move on me in T1. Unfortunately we touch and I was off track(again).
When I rejoined I was on P7.

On lap 26 I've passed Steve and started cathing Fulvio, but I just couldn't do it. Luckily(for me of course) Clutch had a accident, and Fulvio had engine problems witch gave me P4.

That was good race, well maybe we had to many crashes ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 08, 2009, 06:33:06 PM +0100
I would have taken more easy if I were you, you had two car ahead battling very close and leaving no room for a smart pass there.

I know - wasn't really intending to try and pass there to be honest, just trying to stay close ready for the start/finish section. Based on previous laps following you I felt that was a big enough gap and didn't bank on a random mistake in front.
(James can correct me if he had a wobble or not - I don't want to take my replay as granted due to potential lag/refresh or whatever)  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: miner2049er on October 14, 2009, 10:52:10 AM +0100
Last chance for reports gents.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: JamesRye on October 15, 2009, 04:13:38 PM +0100
Currently, I am floudering with a 1min 39 something around Oulton Park. Usually, I try to develop my own setups but if anyone can point me to a BRM setup.....


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Amateurs Trophy (65) - Kyalami - Oct 6
Post by: miner2049er on October 15, 2009, 07:04:51 PM +0100
Might be best to adapt an existing one James, maybe a Brands or something similar.