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Title: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 09, 2009, 08:40:09 AM +0100
A non-championship race open to all at a classic track.

Practice 1:20:00(15 mins)
Qual 2:20:15(15 mins)
Race:20:30(30 laps - T.B.C. ~40 minutes)note: no warmup

Cars allowed: Any GT2 from the v2.10.5.0 pack (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics))
Weather: dry.
Track: Mosport 1977 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_mosport77)).
In-Game Race Start Time: 14:00.
Pit Stops: No mandatory pit stop.

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Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 09, 2009, 08:40:38 AM +0100
If folks can start posting representative lap times we can have a guesstimate at what the lap count should be.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: spanner on October 09, 2009, 08:46:02 AM +0100
Looking to run it by a lap count then?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 09, 2009, 09:15:00 AM +0100
Looking to run it by a lap count then?

No choice.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: spanner on October 09, 2009, 09:28:14 AM +0100
Thought it was simple change to the GDB file? Obviously not then!

Will be trying it out later on.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Legzy on October 09, 2009, 09:42:11 AM +0100
After a few laps I did 1:17 in GT2 F430.

It's simply an awesome track! 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Legzy on October 09, 2009, 11:37:45 AM +0100
Here's a low quality vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bSuL989E3M&hl=un


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Truetom on October 09, 2009, 12:20:43 PM +0100
I got to 1:15:7xx with the 997 RSR and I'm sure aliens will be doing (at least) 1:14s...  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: spanner on October 09, 2009, 12:22:38 PM +0100
1.18 in the GT2 porka as well. Definately time to come if your brave enough to carry the speed!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Truetom on October 09, 2009, 12:54:00 PM +0100
Yea, you gotta do gutsy choices, though if you overdo it you end up in the armco.  :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Legzy on October 12, 2009, 07:20:07 PM +0100
Will be on the server from 9pm tonight having a blast here :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 12, 2009, 08:11:15 PM +0100
1.18 in the GT2 porka as well. Definately time to come if your brave enough to carry the speed!

Did a 1:18.5 in the 997 RSR, but I'm melting the left rear. :o


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 12, 2009, 11:18:07 PM +0100
Great track for hotlapping, for racing well........ we'll find out morrow :) Bi T was suprising fun.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: spanner on October 12, 2009, 11:22:12 PM +0100
Probably take the Beemer after trying a few cars out. Able to do 17.4-6's typically. The rears are going to take a pounding round here especially in the porka which does it anyway plus the fast sweepers that you need throttle on through to carry the speed and help turn-in.

Didnt try the 997 but if you want some fun try the turbo! Less grip than the others but isnt handicaped so much.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Legzy on October 12, 2009, 11:22:37 PM +0100
Down to 1:16.5 in race trim.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Mark J on October 13, 2009, 07:49:40 AM +0100
not done a lap yet  :( Will have to turn and up and hope for the best. No change there then  :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Busi on October 13, 2009, 11:24:17 AM +0100
1:16.0 race pace. What a track :o

Will try to get back in time for the race :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 13, 2009, 08:03:22 PM +0100
Only just got home and haven't had dinner yet or anything, so gonna have to miss this one. Hope it's good fun for you.

Remember just because the track is a bit like a rollercoaster doesn't mean you should do "no hands!"


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Mark J on October 13, 2009, 08:59:13 PM +0100
Bugger, had a power-cut, didnt come back on for half an hour  :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Legzy on October 13, 2009, 09:04:47 PM +0100
Amazing fun. Qually went very poorly, forgot to put soft on till half way through & then it just didn't quite happen.

Once the race settled down, I was behind SBG. I was about 1-2 seconds a lap quicker through the whole track till we came to the straight & he'd just eek out 0.5 secs time after time after time.... I'm not used to harassing somebody for that long, that close & was basically following closer then my skill level. I started getting frustrated (which is funny looking back because it was excellent) & had a good look down the inside of T3, where he was weakest & I was strongest, SBG closed the door (sensibly) & I had no where to go really, nicked the grass, span & nearly collected Ade who'd been catching us due to our battling (cost over 2secs on my last completed lap ::) ;D). Tried to get going but had puncture & I'm certain a bunch of suspension damage etc, so quit out as it's not the kind of circuit you can roll round to the pits.

Great track, great racing, well done SBG  :P ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 13, 2009, 09:25:16 PM +0100
Tough break MJ, you'd have enjoyed that.

Thank gawd for that Legzy, I thought I had really peed you off :) The Bi-t feels brilliant, especially compared to the new GT2 911 which is awful in my eyes, but it does suffer from a "bit" of understeer. I was on the defensive from the off and if you thought I was holding you up, spare a thought for Ade. My fronts were completely gone after 20 laps. I quite enjoyed it but it would feel ruddy awful to do that for a real race, or maybe not ;) Maybe that tracks just not good for racing?

I would ask for the Bi-T to be made more competitive (it was 2 seconds off Lambo/430 times for me) but I guess its a lost cause. Congrats to the podium and you would never have passed me Dave ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: picnic on October 13, 2009, 09:32:02 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20091013%20U10/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: goldtop on October 13, 2009, 09:47:07 PM +0100
Mind wasn't really there tonight, forgot to load my quali set and then struggled to keep concentration during the race. Lost it early on through T2 and several times after until  decided to esc as the leaders were closing in. Saw Spanner stuck on the kerb at the bottom of the hill at one point; would have given you a nudge but didn't think of it till I'd gone past. At least we could have had a race between us. ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Busi on October 13, 2009, 10:50:51 PM +0100
Qualified in 8th and had a great race, making back positions and was soon up to 3rd.

Catching API and TT was really difficult though, I had a much powerful car but not good in those long corners. But when I caught API I could pass him in the back straight, having to defend in the next 4 or 5 corners, as he was all over me!

Tried to do the same with TT, but unluckily after passing him I took too much kerb and made me slow down, this caught TT who had to avoid me and spun, but I kept the lead with API up to 2nd now. A few corners later I was still thinking about the unlucky incident, I lost concentration and went wide. Made me lose like 10-12 seconds and was in 3rd and with no chance to catch them again. Decided to retire with few laps to go.

Grats podium :) great fight at the front


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Blunder on October 14, 2009, 07:02:29 AM +0100
Wow! where did that come from!? :)
I have been getting used to running down the order but for some reason I was on pace last night!?
I asked Legzy to talk me through the set up for the Panoz for Zhuhai but never made the race.
The set up was brilliant and with a few extra tweeks I was doing 1.18's so i thought that will do!
Once I noticed I had been running with a full fuel tank and reduced it to race fuel i was even faster, then add softs and no fuel and
I scrapped a 1.15.9 i think it was!?
No one was more suprised than me!
Straight forward race....
Gazza spun giving me 3rd but I didn't even notice that as I avoided Gazza, Busi had sneeked along side me from nowhere and I had to yield at the end of the straight.
Was concerned about sbg behind but managed to pull away from him too!? Thats a first!  ;D
Just concentrated on being my consistent self and after Busi's incident brought it home 3rd!
Will be skipping all day!
Thanks all, great track that!

M.





Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 14, 2009, 07:44:37 AM +0100
That was a race of two halves for sure!

Couldn't sort out the overheating left rear on soft/mediums so started on medium/hards and early doors was stuck behind Matt Rowe's big -bummed Beamer. Was bound to find a way through eventually, despite his attempts to muscle me off the track every time I got alongside :P, and after one abortive attempt when I got through on the run down to Moss only to slide off between the two parts, he returned the favour one or two laps later and I struck out after Ade and Ginsters.

I'm guessing that they were on softer tyres - or using them much more heavily that I was - because from a steady gap of 12 seconds or so, the distance suddenly started to close. Unfortunately I threw away all my hard work but having another off in Moss, and despite continuing to reel the pair of them in at 2 seconds a lap, I needed another lap to catch them and then another couple to pass them.

Picnic - I didn't realise you were in the 996 RSR, that was a great effort to finish so close behind in that old rustbucket. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: picnic on October 14, 2009, 08:38:30 AM +0100
Picnic - I didn't realise you were in the 996 RSR, that was a great effort to finish so close behind in that old rustbucket. ;D

When I was importing the results last night I noticed we were in different flavour Porkers, I thought to myself then "bet I picked the naff one"  :-[  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Legzy on October 14, 2009, 10:24:49 AM +0100
Maybe that tracks just not good for racing?
Your other line would seem to go against that...
I was on the defensive from the off and if you thought I was holding you up, spare a thought for Ade.
I could imagine that in an enduro here, if someone was then holding me up like you were last night, I'd have just pitted to get away from you.
Slower car class could also make a bit of difference, might open up some extra opportunities?


I would ask for the Bi-T to be made more competitive (it was 2 seconds off Lambo/430 times for me) but I guess its a lost cause.
I forgot to mention that it was great seeing someone in a different Porka, I too would like to see the 'forgotten' porka's made level with the other cars in the class.

and you would never have passed me Dave ;)
I agree (Ade & I couldn't do it over a whole race!) :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Oct 13
Post by: Truetom on October 14, 2009, 10:58:20 AM +0100
Pole got me a bit optimistic and after a few laps I was sure I could keep API behind. The only sensible overtaking point is on a back straight and his car was slower there. Then Busi came from the back and his Panoz made one second better time on that straight alone. ::) Even with half a second lead out of the Moss corner Busi passed me before the first right hander in the Esses. :( Then he took too much kerb and ...  :P  Had to brake inside the corner and since I was on the limit it was a spin in both cases. Got no damage but I lost over 5 seconds to API. Tried to get it back but I could only manage 0,2 per lap - great driving and consistency, API :thumbup1: - and in the end I was still 2 seconds behind. It was a great chase, though. ;D

Grats to API and Blunder. :thumbup2:

About the track: since I was able to keep a minimum distance from API and Busi doesn't count :P I can't say I did any of the classical close racing. So: is this track good for racing or hotlaping only?