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Title: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 12, 2009, 07:46:07 AM +0100
All members welcome - no registration required.

Practice 1:20:00(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:10(25 mins)
Race:20:35(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: any GT2 or GT3 from the UKGTR Physics Pack v2.10.5.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics).
Weather: Changeable, seeded from real-world conditions.
Track: UKGTR Interlagos (v2.0.1.0, download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg76901#post_interlagos))
Race Start Time: 14:00
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Lower Endurance
Password: See above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=218;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track(see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 12, 2009, 07:52:54 AM +0100
The season finalé takes us to South America.

In GT2, Gazza looks to have sewn up the drivers title already, but 2nd place is still very much up for grabs, with Jose and Shark very close, and Jon Moore still in with a shout if he wins. The team championship has gone to the Sharks, and Ferrari have an unassailable lead in the manufacturers championship.

In GT3, the title is still up for grabs; Picnic needs at least 3rd to seal the deal; can API and Lazlow spoil his party? The team championship is even closer; the Sharks are just 2 points ahead of the Oldies. Only the manufacturers crown won't go down to the wire, with BMW outscoring Porsche again to seal the deal, and Nissan only able to secure 3rd place.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Jayblue on October 19, 2009, 09:46:02 PM +0100
Having missed the last two races because of my holiday i'm looking forward to getting back into the league at Interlagos. Its a track i'm very familiar with so i don't anticipate having to do a lot of practice for this one. Hoping for another good result, may take the Ferrari again although as it is the last race of the season i think i'm right in saying i'm free to change as i wish since i haven't changed car yet. Will test some cars out and see. Definately hoping the weather isn't like the F1 quali!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 19, 2009, 09:55:41 PM +0100
i think i'm right in saying i'm free to change as i wish since i haven't changed car yet.

You're not in a particular championship fight anyway so the points charge for changing cars wouldn't affect you anyway. ;)

p.s. This race will coinincide with my 38th birthday so I'm obviously expecting everyone to let me win. :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: nsfast on October 19, 2009, 10:17:07 PM +0100
I'm on holiday this weekend so will have to miss this one.  :(

Good luck to everybody fighting for places. Hope its an exciting finish to the season. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Truetom on October 21, 2009, 12:22:35 PM +0100
Been trying to do something with a BiT here. Another Marcos :D nice car, very powerful with much understeer but I'm 2 sec slower than in 997 RSR.
Still don't know what to drive on GT2 S11. Any suggestions? :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: JonM_uk on October 21, 2009, 01:06:34 PM +0100
Panoz TT ;D Fast but eats tyres. Had a quick blast here and was only slightly slower than F430 :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Lorenzo Galluzzi on October 21, 2009, 01:08:57 PM +0100
Hi all!
I'm planning to race this sunday if there will be a free spot...
I've been doin' some laps there and atm my pbs are something around low32's/high31's..(gt2 porsche)
Any idea what lap times the fastest drivers are able to do...?

Cheers

Lorenzo


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 21, 2009, 01:22:43 PM +0100
Sure you'll be welcome on Sunday Lorenzo  :) Mind you, you ain't gonna make many friends with that race pace  ;) I was about the same in the 997 or whatever it is called but am struggling to get there with wheezy Lambo.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Truetom on October 21, 2009, 04:27:24 PM +0100
Panoz TT ;D Fast but eats tyres. Had a quick blast here and was only slightly slower than F430 :)

Tried it at Valencia GP. Can't make it fun for me. :no:  Same with Gallardo, not a car for me. :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: spanner on October 21, 2009, 06:26:41 PM +0100
Face it TT its going to be a boring car! 360? Seat?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Legzy on October 21, 2009, 08:40:55 PM +0100
Well I'm thinking the GT2 lap record is going to be smashed. I managed to equal it on my 2nd lap while still on pretty much default settings :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 21, 2009, 11:09:19 PM +0100
Think there is a bit more variation in the "lower" classes TT and I'll be heading there in S11 I think. The Spiker for example :yes:

Well I'm thinking the GT2 lap record is going to be smashed.

For sure, as long as it doesn't rain  ;) After the last couple of GP's it wouldn't feel right if it doesn't. Oddly, going around here evokes a load of memories when I haven't been within 1000 miles of it. The sim stuff is still great fun, big kid you say :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Truetom on October 22, 2009, 06:53:33 AM +0100
Think there is a bit more variation in the "lower" classes TT and I'll be heading there in S11 I think. The Spiker for example :yes:

Yea, was also thinking that way. Hmm, never did give TVR a serious thought before.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: ad1980 on October 22, 2009, 11:52:48 AM +0100
hi all , would like to join the race again on sunday hopefully it will go better for me than last weeks race  :'(

been blasting round in the f430 started off doin 1.39 :o but have got it down to the high 1.33's concidering i've never raced this track before and i'm quite happy with my progress  ;D

hopefully i can shave a bit more time off by sundays race

ad


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Truetom on October 22, 2009, 02:44:09 PM +0100
Hey, not too much, mind you. :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: ad1980 on October 22, 2009, 05:30:35 PM +0100
Hey, not too much, mind you. :P

lol , i'm tryin my hardest to ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Mark J on October 22, 2009, 07:47:26 PM +0100
Great track, great cars, should be a good enduro event  :)

Shame i'm gonna miss it. Signing off racing for a couple of weeks as i am finally being dragged kicking and screaming to the altar to make the better half Mrs Mary Jane  ;D

Have a good 'un, i'll be there in spirit.....yeah right, i'll be in Mauritius  ;)  Catch ya later gringos :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 22, 2009, 07:58:22 PM +0100
Have a good 'un, i'll be there in spirit.....yeah right, i'll be in Mauritius  ;)  Catch ya later gringos :)

They've got broadband there you know  ;) Best of luck to you to you both.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Truetom on October 22, 2009, 09:10:35 PM +0100
Take your wheel with ya, just in case...  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: JonM_uk on October 22, 2009, 11:56:02 PM +0100
Good luck MJ 8) Have a great day 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: terry roberts on October 23, 2009, 12:19:49 PM +0100
cant wait for the race need to be more careful this time not to break the car.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: spanner on October 23, 2009, 09:49:42 PM +0100
Group of us on at the mo.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Jayblue on October 25, 2009, 06:48:36 PM +0000
After Estoril i would like some clarification on the weather. The forecast at the top of page one - at what point is the race weather taken from it and is the weather then fixed within a certain set of parameters or is it totally random. At Estoril i took hard tyres expecting a hot race and the temps tumbled until it less than 20 degrees, making my hard tyres totally useless!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: picnic on October 25, 2009, 06:58:42 PM +0000
The initial weather is seeded and clearly visible if you click the generate weather link. What happens after is, my understanding but Dave wrote it, random. If you download the weather file and look at it you can see what might happen. However the game also does its own 'weather smoothing' so you may find conditions change when you don't expect them to as the track dries or gets wetter.

Last time I checked, 3 hours ago, it looked like the race would start mildly damp, get a bit wetter before drying out. However this is no indication of what might happen tonight.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Jayblue on October 25, 2009, 07:55:58 PM +0000
The initial weather is seeded and clearly visible if you click the generate weather link. What happens after is, my understanding but Dave wrote it, random. If you download the weather file and look at it you can see what might happen. However the game also does its own 'weather smoothing' so you may find conditions change when you don't expect them to as the track dries or gets wetter.

Last time I checked, 3 hours ago, it looked like the race would start mildly damp, get a bit wetter before drying out. However this is no indication of what might happen tonight.

Thanks that is much clearer now.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: goldtop on October 25, 2009, 08:55:06 PM +0000
Discoed on lap 5ish after being punted on 1st lap. Grim :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: ad1980 on October 25, 2009, 09:05:15 PM +0000
just makin some pace and lost connection >:(  >:(  >:( just don't have any luck with this at mo

congrat's to the winner hope every1 else had a good race  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Truetom on October 25, 2009, 09:19:12 PM +0000
First decission is usually the right one - should have stayed away from Gallardo after I tried it and decided it's not for me. :-\  A very quick car, but I'm not stable in it. After the third spin and second contact I decided to leave before I make more damage. :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: spanner on October 25, 2009, 09:28:05 PM +0000
Umm... sorry H@L, glad you made it through the wreckage :o

Was enjoying it with the close racing all through the first half, dont think i was more than a few secs away from people. Spent most of the time on iracing today so it took a while in practise to get back into it. Really got to sort out that FFB! Coming back to GTR2 i couldnt believe how hard the wheel was!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Jayblue on October 25, 2009, 10:16:20 PM +0000
Wow what an amazing race, totally engrossing right the way through. Start fourth and having fitted med front hard rear due to some worries on my rear tyre temps. Iwas no happy with the car for my entire first stint. But somehow there were incidents ahead and only Ginsters got away into any kind of a significant lead. I had a superb battle with Jon, so very clean and we tussled for lap after lap. His Ferrari was very good in the middle sector, just where i was very slow. So on at least three occasions he got past me, but the BMW was quick with my low rear wing on the straight and i was able to cruise straight back past by turn one. At one point a backmaker ended up blocking me accidently and Jon got by, but i think he conceeded the position back to me, if you did thanks Jon but you didn't need to - maybe you were just enjoying our battle as much as me  ;)

After many laps Jon squeezed past with a great move and Gazza and Jure closed in. At this point my throttle potentiometer starting playing up and not reading full throttle properly, allowing Gazza past easily on a straight of all places. Very annoying. I took my eye off the ball for a couple of laps after this as it continued to distractme until my stop, at which point the problem seemed to solve itself as it normally does after a while. Switched to mediums all round and felt much quicker, putting in some good times. As things unravelled i saw only Ginsters would exit the pits ahead of me, but i had no idea it would be such a close call as he left the pits just two seconds ahead of me. I pushed hard knowing my best chance was while his tyres were cold and to my suprise he had a little moment at the hairpin and i slipped past. The gap stayed around 2 secs for a while but my tyres were already going past their best and he had fresh rubber, not to mention better pace to start with, so i waited for the storm to begin.

Where the Ferrari had proved superior in the middle sector the Lambo wasn't quite as good, but it was quicker on the straight, though still not up to my BMW's straight line prowess. After several laps of pressure i got a break with some traffic that allowed me to get myself together for the closing laps. Despite some intense pressure i held on for the win in a brilliant race. Totally enjoyed tonight and the standard of  driving was once agian very high, hats off to you all on a brilliant league.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 25, 2009, 10:17:57 PM +0000
Shame to see the early disco's. Funny that they all happen at same dangerous place and one of them sent myself and jon off :'(

Got back in front of TT then created a quite comfortable gap to field. Decided to change tyres at stop as I thought I had enough time and I did, just 0.5 to JayBlue. Had one eye on him and dumbly did an incredibly bad slow spin to let him past. He prolly hadn't changed tyres and I was all over him for last 15 mins, threw every ruddy thing at him with no luck and decided a late punt into T1 in a last lap do or die effort was best option. 0.1 when we crossed the line and it was on but, rugger me, no time left ;D Great defence JB.

Gotta say GT3 gents were excellent. Congrats to champ winners in both :) I had some rotten luck at start of season but I've enjoyed the actual races I've competed in immensely.

Much thx to Dave (its your birthday  :)), Pete, Prof and other moderators. Roll on S11.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: JonM_uk on October 25, 2009, 10:21:12 PM +0000
Well I was a bit gutted after that. Qualified as well I thought I could. The start of the race was great because I thought SBG was gonna disappear but he didn't. That joy soon turned to  :o when a BMW was frozen in the middle of the track, was quite funny to see postions 1-2-3 all sliding across the grass after going for avoiding action. I rejoined in 5th I think quickly passing a couple of cars and then coming across JayBlue, we had a great scrap for a good few laps but his tyres looked like they were wearing badly and the F430 doesn't have that problem. Set about chasing SBG who was 14 or so seconds ahead. Thought I'd pit on about half way and make the most of the rubber but I had a disaster in the pits, I pulled up to my pit box pressed return and turned the engine off......"Turn off your engine so the refuelling can start" ??? ??? ??? Tried starting the car and turning it off again...Same thing >:( Then pressed my ignition off button again(no engine sounds at this point) and then the refuelling started. Any chance of fighting for the win had gone and I was tempted to press the escape button but thought better of it. Another strange thing happened in the 2nd half of the race, as I was approaching Jure for the 1st time my monitor went blank and I thought it was a CTD but a few seconds later it came back on and I'd drifted off the track but was lucky not to hit anything. What did you make of this Jure? After this had good battles with Jure and Legzy. Just touched legzy in one the corners spinning him, waited for him to pass again before racing some more. Finished well in the end I guess but it was a case of what could have been. The racing was great tho 8)
Grats to JayBlue and Lazlow


Edit:

At one point a backmaker ended up blocking me accidently and Jon got by, but i think he conceeded the position back to me, if you did thanks Jon but you didn't need to - maybe you were just enjoying our battle as much as me  ;)


I didn't really want to pass like that TBH although the devil sitting on my right shoulder told me to floor it tho' :P Was a great fight 8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: picnic on October 25, 2009, 10:23:48 PM +0000
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20091025%20U10LE/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 25, 2009, 10:24:13 PM +0000
I'm so gutted for Picnic as not only did the damn internet cheat him out of a championship win, but we didn't know the points permuations well enough to know that we could have got him up to 4th position and still won him the championship despite the internet putting him a lap down near the start. Very sorry about that Pete, my instinct was to tell the other two drivers to let him by and if I'd know API was Team Oldie we should have done cause the team championship was lost anyway.

Despite that I'd like to say well done Picnic on a great championship run and I would like to congratulate API on the GT3 drivers title and Team Oldie on their very strong performances to win the team championship too.

Additionally congratulations to Gazza on the GT2 drivers title and to JonM on securing the team title, with me, for Team Shark. Gazza has been the most consistent driver this season and those two wins at the start gave you a great start, so thoroughly deserved.

My race was good fun. Qualified 9th on the grid with what I thought was a really good lap that I was really pleased with. Couldn't believe how much faster 8 other guys were though. Still I thought I would jump a few of them in the pits if I could just keep near enough, so all was not lost. After quite a few laps dicing with Spanner and Hal I eventually did a bit of a do-or-die move on Hal to get past him in the twisties where he was so slow. I couldn't keep within 30 car lengths of him on the straights even in his slipstream so I knew it was my only chance as he was soooo slow in the twisties.

After that I made a boob in the 2nd last turn to hand some places back to other drivers who themselves had made mistakes and then stayed quiet till the pit stops.

Had a quick pit stop for tyres and fuel and this bumped me right up to third after everyone else had pitted. I thought Gazza was going to catch me after the pit stops, but I held my own and in the end I was quite comfortable with a small-ish gap back to Gazza and then Legzy later on.

Very pleased with 3rd myself considering I started 9th and I think that gives me 2nd in the drivers championship too, so doubly pleased at finishing there as it's a very pleasant suprise.

Wierd season for me. After missing the first round at one of my best and favorite circuits (Estoril) I started the next round in the F430. After doing half the races in the F430 I decided it was too common and switched back to my trusty M3 for Silverstone. I really didn't get on with the car though and decided to try yet another car and take a 20% hit on points for switching cars twice. Stuck with the 997 for the last 3 rounds and it was certainly interesting. Takes a lot of getting used to and an awful lot (more than any other car imho) of setting up is required for each circuit, as the previous settings just don't seem to work very well at the next track.

Anyway, another enjoyable season and thanks to all the backroom staff that make it possible and I've had a lot of fun racing everyone again.

Cheers.

Simon.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: JonM_uk on October 25, 2009, 10:44:04 PM +0000
Grats to Gazzer and API on thier Championships and Team Shark and the Oldies for the Team Champs 8)
Wow, I didn't realise that the GT3 Title was so close. Unlucky to lose such a close one Picnic but well done for the season 8)

Thankyou to all the guys who make this league possible 8) 8) 8) I love you all :-*


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 25, 2009, 10:44:59 PM +0000
I should've had a better race than I did; after Robert jumped the start (I think) and passed me, he and Goldtop then touched on the opening lap and unfortunately I picked up a modicum of front end damage and was losing about a second a lap on my expected pace. I couldn't stop very early because of the tyre wear, so I had to suffer it until half distance. :-\

Despite putting in a bit too much fuel I had a really first class stop and not only passed Matt Rowe's Viper, but also came out just a few second's behind Prof, a position I was genuinely surprised to keep right to the end of the race, though to be fair the car worked much better once the damaged splitter was repaired.

I'm absolutely gutted about Picnic's championship - I nearly pulled over on the last lap but thought the championship was probably lost for him, didn't realise he had such a good lead going in. :-[


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Prof on October 25, 2009, 10:52:08 PM +0000
Firstly congratulations to API and Gazza for two well deserved championships and to the Oldies and Sharks for their respective team wins.

I share Shark's feelings about Picnic's luck tonight. If I had understood the scoring implications as we raced, I would have moved over in an instant. Perhaps some kindly moderator will DQ me to make me feel better  :o ;D ;D I have never less wanted a podium.

I could have been more help to Picnic and the team simply by not showing up.

Anyway both the GT3 and GTC championships have been excellent this season and now just Imola to go...


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: phspok on October 25, 2009, 10:54:24 PM +0000
Good race. I had no idea about championship stuff, but I let Picnic unlap himself by falling off somewhere  ;D
As usual I got mugged in the pits after having a good 1st half, I always lose about 30 secs in pitstops
even when i just hit return and take the preset one stop. Anyway, Dave jumped me in the pits
and then I set about trying to catch him, with GT2s lapping he would pull away then I'd catch up
My motor seemed off song, would not go over 160 on the straight, just sat at same revs for the last
section, so I could not catch up as I might, well held though Dave was a good chase
Oh and Happy Birthday  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Gazza49er on October 25, 2009, 11:17:38 PM +0000
What a race  :o

Had to really go some to get a decent grid spot as i was down in 8th for some time but just got one in the 31's to get 6th.  Thought i was gunna get eaten up on the first straight by my team mate but he had an issue so gave me some space. Followed Jure for quite a while but couldn't get close enough to make a pass (think i had to much wing on). Finally he made a small error and i sneaked by. Next up was TT, he made a mistake which allowed me to get close but he was a little quicker than me so again it took another mistake for me to get by. ( TT i couldn't avoid the slight touch when you spun in front of me).

Then some how i was catching Jon and Jay as they were fighting and i got passed Jay. GT3's were excellent but a couple of times they would flash me by on the straights but i didn't have the top speed and we were side by side and i guess they missed their braking points and flew straight on narrowly missing me  :o, felt like a target for a missile  :P

The slight damage cost me in the pits as it repaired which allowed Simon to jump me.  Had real trouble requesting pitstop tonight, i was pressing the button for 2 laps and nothing was happening  ???

Anyway thought i might catch Simon but pesky Legsy came out just infront of me and we had a nice little battle but managed to get him but traffic and Simon's similar pace meant i couldnt catch. Great drive from 9th.

So pretty happy with 4th and the GT2 championship  :) :)

Lets face it though if Jon, Jay, Jose and maybe Simon had done all the races it would of been very different but i'll take it  8)

This series has been incredable with some amazing battles and close racing, everybody here is a credit to this league and i thank the hard work from the chaps that put this all together.  :thumbup2:



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Truetom on October 25, 2009, 11:45:36 PM +0000
Next up was TT, he made a mistake which allowed me to get close but he was a little quicker than me so again it took another mistake for me to get by. ( TT i couldn't avoid the slight touch when you spun in front of me).

Meh, to be frank I was more concerned about you than I was about me - by that time I already knew my race was :thumbdown: and I was afraid I'm gonna take you with me. So after I surprised H@l with braking - I was a bit off the braking point but I think it was 'cause of lapping - and another spin I decided to quit and go shoot some G1TS. ;)

Grats to Winners and Champions. 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Burtoner on October 26, 2009, 01:01:48 PM +0000
I should've had a better race than I did; after Robert jumped the start (I think) and passed me, he and Goldtop then touched on the opening lap and unfortunately I picked up a modicum of front end damage and was losing about a second a lap on my expected pace. I couldn't stop very early because of the tyre wear, so I had to suffer it until half distance. :-\

I didnt jump the start just got a great start :P

Good race made some places, love the track knew it really well, was just matter of keeping it going.
My laptimes were good, but still 2-3 secs off my main bunch of drivers in midfield. Had a few off moments but nothing too serious.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: H@L9000 on October 26, 2009, 04:39:35 PM +0000
Nice race. :)

Had some good battles with Legzy, Spanner, Simon, TT to name but a few. There was only a part of the race towards the end where I was not close to another car. :)

No worries Spanner. It was a big crash that you had. :o Made my pit lane entrance interesting. ;D

Well done podiums and well done Gazza for 1st in the championship. 8) Team Pseudo also take 2nd in the team championship. Aaahhhh YYeeeeerrrr!. Thanks Matt Rowe for the back up on that one. Well done API as well. :)

See you all in next seasons Lower Endurance. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Legzy on October 26, 2009, 05:18:34 PM +0000
Had a nightmare 1st lap. Started 8th, somehow out accelerated H@l's Viper off the start line (double gear change mate?) to get 7th by T1. Then a series of mini errors set me back to 11th by the start of L2. Then had half a lap of side by side "gloves off public server style" racing with Jose (both our faults I think, so sorry for my part), which cost us both about two more positions each. So 13th & with it all to do again.

Raced like a demon from then (by my standards ;)) & finished a very active/hectic 7th & recorded the most overtakes (13) of anyone.

Had some really good racing with a good few people tonight, my strategy meant that I got to see just about everyone at some stage & apologies for the state of my tyres in the last few laps as I tried to fend off Gazza, Jure & JonM.

Well I've lost my GT2 crown (congrats Gazza), but I'm actually more proud of my 5th spot this time in a much stronger field of aliens/opponents.

Really well done to API & Lazlow for bringing Team Oldie yet more silverware. Hard luck to Pete, you've driven really well all season mate. Not sure how I'd have felt if Simon had worked out the required team orders in time... that would have brought us down to F1 levels :-\.

Anyhow, great great Lower Endurance season, thank you everyone.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: picnic on October 26, 2009, 05:27:51 PM +0000
Had a nightmare 1st lap. ......... Hard luck to Pete, you've driven really well all season mate.

Not as nightmarish as my 2nd lap when the game froze on me. I sat there sobbing on to my G25 hoping the game might recover, and it did. Sadly the cars that had been following me by 5 or so seconds were now just in front, not just by 5 or 6 secs but a full lap as well. I managed to unlap myself from everyone but lazlow. I would have easily got a podium on my pace with out that glitch.

Add to that the race I was winning by 30 secs when my ADSL died with 5 mins to go I was robbed.

I must have been really bad in a past life to have this much bad karma  :'(



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 26, 2009, 05:44:01 PM +0000
I must have been really bad in a past life to have this much bad karma  :'(

No, just this one...you naughty, naughty boy! ;) ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Legzy on October 26, 2009, 07:10:12 PM +0000
that is tough mate. next season buddy!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Blunder on October 27, 2009, 07:49:44 AM +0000
Picnic, must have been your car... I'm guessing that was frozen....!?
Was behind other cars so didn't see you until too late..
2 flat tyres, race over!

 :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: picnic on October 27, 2009, 08:14:57 AM +0000
Sorry it ruined your race too :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Blunder on October 27, 2009, 09:42:03 AM +0000
Not your fault buddy!
Shame you had the issues  :-\
Shame about the championship!  :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: API on October 27, 2009, 10:41:41 PM +0000
The race itself was pretty boring for me, except the fight against Lazlow in the first half of the race. I had some good racing with him until he eventually passed me. After the pit stop, gap to Lazlow was about 20 seconds and the gap to Prof was about 30 seconds. I had also a very scary moment, with only few laps to go, when I did hit to a lagging car and went off the track. Luckily, I survived with no damage. Finished 2nd which was a good result to me.

Picnic: Bad luck mate. I wouldn't have wanted the championship competition to end like this. :(

About the season. I managed to achieve my goal which was to get a podium place in one race. So the season was sensational successful to me! :eek: I had many awesome fights, especially against Picnic, Lazlow and Dave. :thumbup1: Without the incident in Interlagos, Picnic would be the champion. Bad luck mate! :'(

Congratulations Gazza for the GT2 drivers championship and Team Shark for the teams championship. And in the GT3s, Team Oldie won the championship. Go Team Oldie! ;D

And most important, I want to thank people who made this season possible. :notworthy:

API


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Jure on October 29, 2009, 07:16:17 AM +0000
Had a first semi-good race this season.

Reason was simple, changed to F430. I can't drive M3 GTR, period. Mind u, this was my first race in Fezza, only drove it for few laps round silverstone when it got out. Great little go-cart, that explains it's pace, it's grip is simply phenomenal, thoroughly enjoyed driving it.

Race was... weird, both SBG and I were long in first stint and lost heaps of time due to it. Still can't figure it out.  ???

Anyway, great championship, great racing, you're all a bunch of real gents and that makes racing a pleasure, so thank you all. :)

Congrats to all the winners and such.  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 29, 2009, 09:08:24 AM +0000
Race was... weird, both SBG and I were long in first stint and lost heaps of time due to it. Still can't figure it out.  ???

Well I don't know about you but I know why SBG lost loads of times. Driving the Lambo he has to stop a lot longer in the pits because he needs to take on more fuel due to the car being a lot thirstier than some of the other cars (like the 997 I was driving).

Looking at the lap chart, his in-lap is very good, but he takes 24 seconds longer than someone like me in the pits. Ultimately he makes that up in outright pace, so despite "losing" that chunk he has made the right car choice for him because he can drive the car fast enough to make up for the extra fuel.

This is what's good about having the different car types and people with different abilites; speed on the track, consistency on the track, good at pit stops (yes it's not all about the amount of fuel you need or the tyres you need to take on!) and so on.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 29, 2009, 09:18:45 AM +0000
I also changed tyres, whilst I'm guessing others didn't? Thats always a tight call in GT2 for me. I wasn't really losing any pace at end of my first stint but after about 70 mins my med/med combo normally turn to mush. In GTR2 tyre wear feels like it suddenly goes from good to utter disaster with not much graduation between. Or its so gradual I might be missing it  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 29, 2009, 10:05:46 AM +0000
I also changed tyres, whilst I'm guessing others didn't?

I ALWAYS change tyres, even in GTC. I was running soft-medium in the 997.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Legzy on October 29, 2009, 10:16:41 AM +0000
I also changed tyres, whilst I'm guessing others didn't?
I ALWAYS change tyres, even in GTC. I was running soft-medium in the 997.
I didn't in this race, but then I also lost 3 positions in the last 5 laps because I couldn't hold my lines well enough with the shot tyres :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Jure on October 29, 2009, 10:34:14 AM +0000
Well, I came into pits with 2,5L of fuel, changed all tyres and put in additional 45 liters. Finished with 0,88 liters of fuel.  ;D

Pit-stop time was 45 seconds (lap 2.33), in lap was amongs the best, hence  ???.  Practiced pits prior to race, I always do, that's what makes it so strange, I know I was right on the money. I did lose few seconds in last few laps due to traffic prior to pits, but generally speaking the same lap times were still pretty good. Weird.

Lap times do explain it to some degree, main competitors had roughly the same pace (sad it during last few laps prior to pits) but were on warmer tyre once I got out (behind Gazza). Was on M-H tyre (overinflated but still too cold, lol).

Anyway, F430 it is. Noob car you say? I don't care, that's how a car should behave. I love it. 8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 29, 2009, 10:52:58 AM +0000
Well, I came into pits with 2,5L of fuel, changed all tyres and put in additional 45 liters.

Well that's your problem. To work out your starting fuel you need to work out how much time you lose carrying additional fuel against the time you save not having to put that fuel in during the stop. If you simply fuel for the stint you haven't done your homework. :P


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Jure on October 29, 2009, 11:32:38 AM +0000
Well, I came into pits with 2,5L of fuel, changed all tyres and put in additional 45 liters.

Well that's your problem. To work out your starting fuel you need to work out how much time you lose carrying additional fuel against the time you save not having to put that fuel in during the stop. If you simply fuel for the stint you haven't done your homework. :P

Oh but I did, even did comparative fuel load tests b4 the race and was even toying with an idea of full fuel load (90 L I believe) for late splash&dash (tyres could take it). You see, I love details in racing. Perhaps you're right and it should have been 90L (which would mean I'd still have to fill some 20 or so).

Comparing 57/57  liters or 70 and 45 (with exact fuel for each stint) it came out (in theory at least) in favour of a longer first stint (preference wise, maths show the same cumulative time). 18 liters of fuel @ 3 liters per second (right?!) for 8 laps of fuel less = 6 seconds saved. Longer first stint ment extra 0.2 s per lap. Times 32 = 6 secs, therefore 50/50 or longer first stint come out more or less even, but I should have been gaining while rest were in the pit stages. Must have been traffic then, plenty of 1.34s due to it (which is good, am not complaining) in late 1st stint (saw my competitors slightly gaining too, but were all above 1.05 mins). I was very fast at that stage, but couldn't run at max due to traffic, that must be it. Gap graph @ lapchart info clearly shows it tbh. I wonder how it would go with full fuel load though, should still be able to keep it well below 1.34 (if alone that is :D ).

Well, Jon breathing down my neck sure didn't help either, but that was in 2nd stint anyway.  :fencing: :thumbup2:

Plus I lost 7 seconds due to a semi-spin and stuff in early stages (not to mention positions) but that's not the issue.

Mind you, I was fully expecting 47 laps only. The only reason I've finished the race with assigned 45 liters of refueling is the fact that I managed 3 more laps than predicted in the first stint, lol.  ;D

Simon, how much fuel did you take on during your pit stop? Even during the race itself I went "LOL, cool, I wonder how the h did he pull it off??!?!?!", cause u were right behind me before you've pitted, then I saw you waaaay up-front.  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 29, 2009, 11:54:15 AM +0000
Simon, how much fuel did you take on during your pit stop?

I couldn't exactly tell you as I wasn't taking notes, I would guess it was 15-20 litres. I started on a full tank (100 litres) and filled back up to 61 litres just after midway. I could have got away with not filling up quite as much but after seeing TT run out of fuel so many times ;) I always would rather finish with far more fuel than I need than run out of fuel with a lap or two to go. The difference between running with 5 litres on board and 15 litres on board is so little it's not worth running it so close just for a tiny amount of lap time.

I might be making these figures up cause every race the stats merge into each other after you've done so many, in qualifying I think I was using 2.2 a lap and in the race I was 2.0->2.1 a lap.

I was consistently faster in the second stint than the first because of shedding some weight in the first stint. Looking at the lap chart this means I gained 3 seconds on you in the extra 3 laps you did before pitting. That's 1 second a lap on pace alone just because I pitted earlier.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance - Interlagos - Oct 25
Post by: Burtoner on November 25, 2009, 08:47:03 PM +0000
Ok sent my report for race incident, hopefully you can finish this off now..