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Title: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: vosblod on October 12, 2009, 10:26:58 AM +0100
Onto race four. Lorenzo is leading the Works with Rick taking the top spot in the Privateers. Both championships are still up for grabs. Please bear in mind there are a mixture of driver abilities and no second chances with Pro.

Race List = IGOR
Server = ukgpl.4 (see note below)
IP address = 84.64.42.154 (tbc)
Race date = 18-10-2009
Time = 21:00 UK time (20:00 GMT)
Track = Oulton Park 1960's
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (34 laps)

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Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

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The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, namely Works and Privateers. The current driver split is;

WORKS drivers
Evil Clive   
Tim FMG   
Andrew Hodgson   
Hristo Itchov   
James Rye   
Ruud Savelkoul   
Sam B   
Jethro W   
Will Tway   
John Roberts   
Phil Thornton   
Ken Murray (R)   
Fulvio Policardi (R)   
Doni Yourth (R)   
Mike Beattie (R)   
Lorenzo Galluzzi (R)   
Kruger Enge (R)   
   

PRIVATEERS drivers
Al Heller   
Bookie W   
Graham Poole   
Bartosz Podreckony   
Rick Nauman   
  Sharkfin (R)   
Steve Bird   
Vosblod   
Burtoner (R)   
Billy Nobrakes (R)   
Viss (R)   
Peter Maestro (R)   
Bernie D (R)   
Michael Turner   

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: In the event of more then 19 entrants a second grid will be run for the Privateers on ukgpl.6. (IP 80.5.200.198) Instructions will be provided in the chatroom – please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count. If you can try to make sure you are in the chatroom by 8.50pm this will enable a decision without any delays to the start time.

Oulton Park Circuit is a motor racing track in the small village of Little Budworth, Cheshire. It occupies much of the area which was previously the Oulton Estate. The track is set in the grounds of Oulton Hall. The circuit was originally developed by the Mid-Cheshire Car Club, with the track attracting crowds of 40,000 during the 1950s. Oulton Park regularly hosted the International Gold Cup event which attracted many Formula One teams (Stirling Moss won it 5 times), but as the F1 calendar shrank to include only Grand Prix events, the Cup became less well-known.
The track is characterised by its rapidly changing gradients and blind crests leading into unforgiving corners. Among many British and foreign drivers it is considered one of the most challenging and thrilling circuits ever constructed.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: EvilClive on October 17, 2009, 09:46:05 PM +0100
Wont be at Oulton for this one.
 Currently in a Waza remote hilltop training retreat in deepest Devon, where fortunately my wi-fi appears to still function.

at this moment I am nursing a large whiskey in front of a log fire ...feet up.

In fact you will be "evil free" until next Thursday...if you are lucky. ::) :angel:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 17, 2009, 09:59:36 PM +0100
Enjoy the escapade. Is it good whiskey? :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Ken Murray on October 18, 2009, 10:18:46 AM +0100
It will be touch and go if I make it. I have a Dad's taxi run to Carlisle to drop eldest daughter off for a train at 7.45pm. It's about 1.5 hrs back from there so hopefully I can just catch the server before it goes to race!!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Kruger Enge on October 18, 2009, 12:23:59 PM +0100
where fortunately my wi-fi appears to still function.
Geez, for the moment I thought you were talking about your wife  ::) as in "wifey"


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 18, 2009, 08:50:54 PM +0100
Lol  ;D

Looks like I'll be here bringing up the rear - Have got bugger all practice in so far this weekend  :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: fpolicardi on October 18, 2009, 10:00:39 PM +0100
I blew engine at start, sorry for who was involved when I was stuck on the grid.
I had dark presage in qualy when I blew the engine at first touch of throttle in the pit.
I don't know if it can related to my lat to server that was going up and down.
Next one, luckily it cost me only 5 tokens.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Turkey Machine on October 18, 2009, 10:15:43 PM +0100
Considering I was in hospital 4 days ago having a few catheters placed up my femoral vein, I'm gobsmacked I'm in as strong a condition to participate as I was to survive 12 laps. I know there was a slightly reduced field on normal numbers, but the rate of attrition was just stupid!!! I was 4th after 11 laps before I decided that hitting the T1 advertising placards was a good idea. It bent the steering such that I couldn't make a right-hand turn properly, which is quite key around Oulton Park it having 1-2nothat'saleft2-3-4-5-6-7 of the things. I then visited the advertising placards again, at which point they removed a wheel, which was very wise thinking of them.

Only 5 remained when I quit. Out of 10 who started. :o


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: bernie on October 18, 2009, 10:34:30 PM +0100
My brief moment of glory came to a full stop when trying too hard to put some distance between my fezzer and the brabby of AH and ricks Cooper.

Have ran wide 2,000,000 times at cascades corner without incedent but this time I lost a wheel , my own fault trying to make up for my stupid mistake at lodge. I guess all the excitement of finding myself in P1 made me temporarely forget the PRO rules  ::)

Grats to the Pod I know who you are as only 3 left in there when I left , but dont know what the finish order was  :)





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: FullMetalGasket on October 18, 2009, 11:01:18 PM +0100
That was slow but at least gave me a finaish at last - and 4th to boot!  :o

Big appology to Phil, I locked up terribly over the crest before the final corner, knew I wouldn't stop in time so went for the outside hoping you'd see me and turn in.
Didn't work so sorry about that  :(
That was a mighty impressive lakeside explosion excursion you took 3 from the end btw  :notworthy:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 18, 2009, 11:40:11 PM +0100
That was slow but at least gave me a finaish at last - and 4th to boot!  :o

Big apology to Phil, I locked up terribly over the crest before the final corner, knew I wouldn't stop in time so went for the outside hoping you'd see me and turn in.
Didn't work so sorry about that  :(
No problem, it didn't make any difference to the result.  I find that braking zone quite tough, I have to brake what appears to be far too early otherwise I always lock up.  I don't brake on the crest (otherwise that is asking for trouble - like Avon rise at Castle Comb) but there isn't a lot of room after the crest so I have to back off the throttle before the crest and then brake after.  Probably makes me a bit slow there.

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That was a mighty impressive lakeside explosion excursion you took 3 from the end btw  :notworthy:
I made far too many mistakes (again).  Had good pace though, 3rd fastest lap behind Hristo and Ken, but a few drivers who dropped out early may well have beaten my time.

Yes that trip in the lake was interesting.  Having let Hristo through I put a wheel on the grass on the exit of Cascades and ended up spinning onto the grass on the inside.  So I decided to make a wide turn a rejoin but I ran into the invisible wall and all hell broke loose.  The car was bouncing around for a good 30 seconds before the keyboard ESC command was recognised and I could retire!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Andrew Hodgson on October 19, 2009, 12:23:21 AM +0100
My Lap 7 curse struck again in this one.

Quallied on full tanks to set a miserable time in the BRM. My plan was to pootle around, stay out of the way and hope the carnage would gift me a few places. This plan seemed to work at the start. fpolicardi blew his engine on the grid and I managed to weave a way through. Being mindful of the PRO settings and the BRM's fragility, I short-shifted around the laps and before long I was up to 4th due to alot of people heading for the scenery in front of me. Sadly, it was all for naught. As I put the power down coming out of Cascades on lap 7 the engine let go and I coasted to a stop. Race over yet again :(



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Doni Yourth on October 19, 2009, 01:55:01 AM +0100
A lucky P3 placing thanks to the grief of others.

Grats to Hristo on a dominating victory although Mike looked good up there for a bit before his Repco grenaded.

Nice storming drive by Ken to surge up from dead last to nail down P2 at the flag.  I wish I had a little more to have made it tougher to pass.

Huge apologies to Tim for bunting him into pitlane and turning him around in my efforts to avoid Fulvio's Cooper.  I was taken rather by surprise at that development and took the only escape route I could think of.  Sorry.

Good fun trying to hold Kruger til he edged wide on braking for Lodge and drilled the near fence.  I clipped him on the way by and spun.  I could feel a pull in the steering after this but it wasn't too bad.

My G25's sequential shift is giving yet more grief.  Hardly a lap goes by without it changing down on its own now.  Some laps, mulitple instances.  Had me off the road several times.

My biggest moment was with about 6 tours to run and in cruise mode when, with horror, it suddenly came to mind that I'd missed my noon-hour meds dose.  It was now 5pm local...way, way late.  I glanced about my desk and saw my pipe tobacco pouch.  On a straight, I grabbed it, threw down to the middle of the office floor where I'd be sure to see it and have it as a reminder to get to my pills staight away on conclusion of the race.  I'd no sooner settled back into my chair when I offed at Druids.  Lucky not to have smashed it up there.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Hristo Itchov on October 19, 2009, 05:55:46 AM +0100
My Lap 7 curse struck again in this one.

Quallied on full tanks to set a miserable time in the BRM. My plan was to pootle around, stay out of the way and hope the carnage would gift me a few places. This plan seemed to work at the start. fpolicardi blew his engine on the grid and I managed to weave a way through. Being mindful of the PRO settings and the BRM's fragility, I short-shifted around the laps and before long I was up to 4th due to alot of people heading for the scenery in front of me. Sadly, it was all for naught. As I put the power down coming out of Cascades on lap 7 the engine let go and I coasted to a stop. Race over yet again :(



The BRM engine is quite reliable actually. I've never had to drive it with engine saving in mind. Perhaps you're overreving under braking or not lifting up enough/on time?

I joined a bit late for this one, but had a good setup from a past season so there was not much tweaking to be done and the car felt good right from the start. It still took me a couple of laps to get the feeling back and those included a couple of deadly crashes into trees and other objects.  ::) Got the pole with a rather satisfying lap though, but the tight grid meant it wasn't worth much.

Ken and myself both got a good start and he disappeared into my blind spot as we tackled T1 and stood out of sight all the way down and into T2. I tried to keep as inside line as possible, but suddenly felt a contact at my rear which stunned me a bit, from which Mike took advantage to take the lead.

I'm not sure what was causing the warp half of the people experienced, me included, but as far as Latency and Quality bars are concerned, they seemed well in norm on my end. Still, the warp was particularly bad and passing Mike was going to be next to impossible as his car was jumping all over the place (which I suppose was what my car was doing from other people point of view). Yet some reported they had no warp, so go figure. From those who reported bad lag I got the impression it's related to global location in relation to the server, but don't know for sure.

Anyway, Mike was generous enough to let go of the lead when I attacked him a few laps later on the back straight. It would've probably ended in tears if we would've tried to fight closer to each other, but since he didn't block the inside line I just braked later there and went ahead.

After that it was all about preserving some decent pace and concentration, but my chair position was giving me some grief and a lot more later on in the race. Eventually it led to some excursions off the road, but nothing major.

Ken finally emerged into 2nd for the last 10 laps and we traded seconds back and forth, passing some backmarkers now and then. It's nice to win again, although Ken was unfortunate in that T2 incident and Mike as well when his engine let go early on. I wonder what happened to the other half of the usual suspects, I don't remember such low turn out since last season.  :-\

Grats to Doni for a nice 3rd and to Tim for bringing some solid points for Waza in 4th!

-=Hristo=-

EDIT: I just noticed this race is missing from the Standings page.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: MikeBeattie on October 19, 2009, 07:26:52 AM +0100
Yes the warp once the race started was really bad.

I set off on P3 behind Hristo & Ken and watched them flicker their way to T2, thinking "This ain't good".
As Hristo says, Ken disappeared stage Right and he slowed momentarily. I passed and then held the lead for 2 more laps. I saw John was then about 5 secs back, so reckoned that H and myself would probably be quicker with H in the laed, so when he got the tow onto the back straight and then went for the inside I just backed out of it and tucked in behind. Then the engine blew, and I thought I'd been a good boy up to then, but obviously GPL disagreed !!

Grats to all that finished :)

Hopefully the Amateurs race will be kinder !!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: vosblod on October 19, 2009, 09:25:53 AM +0100
EDIT: I just noticed this race is missing from the Standings page.
Now fixed.

Interesting re some saying connection problems on ukgpl4 as there were issues on ukgpl6. Doesn't look like there was a problem with the server, wondering whether it could be a track issue.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Andrew Hodgson on October 19, 2009, 09:33:48 AM +0100
My Lap 7 curse struck again in this one.

Quallied on full tanks to set a miserable time in the BRM. My plan was to pootle around, stay out of the way and hope the carnage would gift me a few places. This plan seemed to work at the start. fpolicardi blew his engine on the grid and I managed to weave a way through. Being mindful of the PRO settings and the BRM's fragility, I short-shifted around the laps and before long I was up to 4th due to alot of people heading for the scenery in front of me. Sadly, it was all for naught. As I put the power down coming out of Cascades on lap 7 the engine let go and I coasted to a stop. Race over yet again :(



The BRM engine is quite reliable actually. I've never had to drive it with engine saving in mind. Perhaps you're overreving under braking or not lifting up enough/on time?

I haven't got the server replay yet but I will check what it thought I was doing with the gears under braking. I felt I was under-revving if anything, and the engine let go as I was exiting Cascades in 3rd at about 9500rpm, which is pretty low for the BRM with its small power band. As for the engine's fragility, I was basing that on real life (IIRC the H-16 wasn't exactly a "simple" engine!).

Annoying as I hadn't blown a single engine in the 2 weeks of practice up until the race, and I really wanted to finish for a change :(

Andrew


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: bernie on October 19, 2009, 11:28:34 AM +0100
EDIT: I just noticed this race is missing from the Standings page.
Now fixed.

Interesting re some saying connection problems on ukgpl4 as there were issues on ukgpl6. Doesn't look like there was a problem with the server, wondering whether it could be a track issue.

The 2 long red bars I kept getting said otherwise , i got kicked out of qualifying ( privateers race ) and was waiting for the same to happen in the race , unfortunatly I took an early bath due to driver error so saved the server the trouble .

Have raced on line a fair few times on this track previously with no issues at all , so suggests the latency was poor somewhere down the line  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Ken Murray on October 19, 2009, 08:18:44 PM +0100
Thankfully my daughters train was on schedule and it pulled out of Carlisle station at 19.44. So it was a sprint to the car and leg it back along the A69 as fast as the old bus would take me!! I had left my PC switched on and had even previously loaded Oulton offline to get the textures loaded in to the gfx memory just in case I needed a rapid join to the server. I needn't have worried, the server was just going up as I climbed in to my loft racing den.

I couldn't quite get down to my PB time in qually and Hristo edged me out to take pole. This was actually probably for the best because I'd found when starting from pole last Wednesday when a few of us did some practice after BREASTS that I couldn't see the flag man from there. This still did not prevent me from bogging down a little as the flag dropped but I still managed to be alongside Hristo when we got to T1. I kept tight to the inside and then as we rolled on down The Avenue a quick look left confirmed we were still level. I kept it wide round the next left hander but massive warp saw me punted off on to the grass. Virtually the whole field sped by as I crawled carefully back on track. Then as I rounded Island I heard my phone beeping to say I had a text. My daughter had promised to let us know she'd made her connection and I had initially layed my phone down on the floor next to the raceframe so I could get to it easily. As it continued to beep I was looking all over the floor but I couldn't see it anywhere, for some reason I'd put it back on the desk!! So I lept out of my seat, checked all was ok on the train front and then lept back in to finally rejoin the fray somewhat detached from the back of the pack.

Still it was a long race and I knew I had the pace to make back the time, the only worry was going to be making the passes. Thankfully I was helped by some drivers crashing and some seemingly willing to pull over and let me by. I think Doni was the only one to put up a fight but I managed to get a run on him in to T1 and nipped through. There was still 22 laps to go at that point but there was no chance of actually catching Hristo barring him making a mistake. He says he did have one scare but he still ran out a comfortable winner.

Grats again to the master, how the hell you get a Honda round in those times I'll never know.

BTW, where is the server replay?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Graduates Cup (67) - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Oct 18
Post by: Phil Thornton on October 19, 2009, 10:03:00 PM +0100
BTW, where is the server replay?
Just uploaded Ken.  Now available via the replays link on the UKGPL Homepage (https://www.ukgpl.com/)