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Car: Skip Barber
Track: Summit Point Raceway

Praccy starts at 19:00 for 75 mins (I'll possibly start praccy a bit earlier and let it run for longer)
Qualifying - 20:15 (15 mins)
Race - 20:30 (28 laps, approx 40 mins)

Standing start
EDIT: 1 Unlimited 'fast tows' (resets) available for each driver (available by pressing SHIFT+R by default)

EDIT: All sessions protected by the main password, there is no seperate 'pre-event practice'

This is intended to be the main test / fun race before the season starts so it would be great to get a big field.

There's a maximum field size of 28 at this track, it's very unlikely we'll get anywhere near but just in case I thought I'd let you know.

What's a good time round here I hear you ask? Well, if you can go sub 1:22 you are kicking major ass. 1:22's are pretty quick and 1:23's are a better target for the speed-challenged (like me, my PB is 1:23.3). According to iRacing stats, Greger Huutu has done a 1:21.1 so there's something to aim for eh? Our very own Brian Kerr has cracked in a 1:21.3 so he's The Daddy at this point.

I wont be around for next 2 weeks, working from 5pm-8am (night shifts) getting a store refitted.

Hopefully I will be signed up again for this.

I'm working till around 7.30 but should be back in time for the race.
Skippy goes well around this track

I re-subbed today for 3-months so will try and be there.

1.22.9 ATM so a little way to go before I get near my PB. 

Actually, seeing as it's been a while since I last ran the Skippy at Summit, are there any build changes that would render my old setups useless?

I should be able to show for this.

So, how do we find a server when it's up?
Rear is a bit light, nothing 1 click of wing couldn't fix, but ::) what do you change in the setup?

On the members page there's a link that says 'Hosted', click on that. It's on the dark gray navigation bar just below the are where the results scroll.

This is the direct link - http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/HostedSessions.do


You've been spoiled in your fancy GT cars ;)

The Skip does tend to a bit of oversteer, you need to control it with your right foot, always keeping a bit of throttle on through the turn.

Lol, never before tended tyre pressure as a damper. Works, though. ;) 1:23:4 so far. :)

Pretty good TT! My best is 1:23.6 so far.

Apparently the Skip has slowed down a bit due to the physics changes since those times in the first post were set so take them with a pich of salt.

That was a lucky lap, Pops. I spin every second lap. ::)

Hoping to join you guys for this on tuesday.

I should be there.

& you've picked a night where we already have a SROUK PnG event. I thought iRacing wasn't going to be conflicting ???

I can't make it this week as I'm working back shift.

Championship races won't. I wasn't intending to race any more P&G this season in any case, hopefully those who are committed to that championship won't bother with this fun race.

There is so much racing in Srou that it is virtually impossible not to conflict. I am going to have to decide between GPL 66's or iRacing when the Championship gets underway proper next week.

I wasn't trying to compete with PnG Legzy... I tried to run this event on Saturday but there was limited interest due to Halloween and it being Saturday...

I said on the other thread that I knew there was a PnG race scheduled and suggested that those involved prioritised PnG over this. However, I don't think there's more than a few drivers who are affected.

1:23.5 after 3 laps with my old setup. Car feels slightly different but not massively, and still has a lot of lift throttle oversteer.

I'll be making this one for sure.

Just run a couple of laps and pretty happy with the feel of the car, just got to try and find a few tenths .... if I start hitting those a-p-e-x jobbies that might be a good start :D.

After the fun race at Lime Rock, I'm really looking forward to a 40 min race with you guys .... although with the oversteer this car generates is could be bloody knackering!!

Correction, just been given a Dad's taxi job for Tuesday night. Pickup in Newcastle at 8.00pm, so not much chance of making the start. I could try joining the server before I leave so I'm ready to just go for it when I get back, but I definitely wont manage any qually. Looks like this could be a weekly thing (dance class!!) so I might well be continueing my GPL 66 season after all.

I'll be in PnG land this week - hope you all have a good one  :)

Would you be willing to share that setup Dave? Or anbody else out there got one? I am trying Huttu's and Luke Mcleans but they seem to make it more oversteery then ever, or it may be I've just forgotten what the Skip is like to drive?

Just fired mine over to you Ken.

Feel free to join the server and see if you make it back in time. We won't hit the pit-stall limit and as it's a fun race I guess it doesn't matter too much if you qualify.

Could you fire it off to me as well pops, ta :) Really struggling with the lift-off oversteer around here, any secret to it? Bit of throttle isn't helping me much.

Sure, your email address is hidden though. PM me :)

Get most of your braking done in a straight line, you can't trail brake these things, a bit MORE throttle all the way through the turn might help too.

Can't be that hard, I can get round ;)

The website below has some replays and track guides for the Skip Barber which I found useful.

http://www.fast-apex.com/videos.html

I'm not sure how good the setups are now after the latest updates.

Can we have an updated drivers list please?

I'm lost between user names and iRacing names.

I must be missing something, 1.27.1 for me  ??? :-\

Thanks Iain, even though there isn't much adjustment those alien types can still make a setup very twitchy, yours is much more stable.

I should be in practice from the very beginning tomorrow.

There isn't a lot you can do with the setup but a good going in position is to soften the rear end as much as possible to give you confidence that it'll stick, and then gradually stiffen it up until it becomes too edgy.


I guess that's setup dependant. ;)

Well, you can trail brake 'these things' but it's not like driving a GT car in GTR2 is what I meant :P


Brian, I thought we had a names list already going but I can't find it so possibly I imagined it! More likely it's buried somewhere where it can't be found...

Pops setup has made a world of difference for me Spanner. It makes it far more stable and lets you push and push :) Also, I'd be amazed if us iR noobs manage to compete with the regulars just yet (no pressure gents ;)).

More questions:
- Where do you see how much fuel you use - or just tell me how much to put in. ;)
- What do you do in the pits?
- Can you change tyres?
- Add fuel?
- Will the tyres last through 40 minutes?
- If you're damaged and come to the pits - do they repair damage?
- What's the penalty for speeding in pits in private league?
- Do we use flags here? I'd be interested in the blue one... ;)
- When you lose control in practice it sometimes tells you to slow down - or you get blackflagged. Will it be doing this nonsense in the race? >:(

If there'd be an option to host your own race with AI drivers I'd test most of this stuff alone, but... >:( Sometimes iR makes obstacles you'd not expect if you own the product. :thumbdown: 
I expect even in private league when you buy all the needed cars and tracks you still have to pay monthly to log in, right? 

Unless it's changed since 2009S2, you won't need to refuel unless you put too little in to start with. Off the top of my head I would guess 8 gallons will be enough.

No real idea whether the tyres will last - don't think I've ever done a 40 minute race in a Skippy before - but I'd be quite surprised if they didn't. You can adjust tyre pressures in the pits if you change tyres, and add fuel, and that's about all.

I don't think there's any damage repair in the pits, you have to use the "fast tow" for that.

I would guess the normal pit speed limit applies, and violating it (or crossing the blend line on exit) will get you a stop and go.

Yes. You really shouldn't be going off though. ;)

Not going off? ??? Oh, you mean in every lap. ;D

I think you'll get away with 3.1 gallons for a 40 minute race, the Skip is pretty light on fuel. You'll easily do 40 minutes on the tyres.

There's no damage repair (yet) in the pits, but you can refuel and change tyres. Whenever you pit it will change tyres and add fuel automatically if you have them selected.

If you press 'F4' while you are driving it gives you how much fuel you have and many remaining laps of fuel that represents. There's a tick box (toggle with 'space bar') if it's selected it will refuel on a pit-stop, if it's off it won't. Using the right and left arrow keys increase and decrease the amount of fuel required at the stop.

'F5' gets you the same information for tyres, you can select whether to change each tyre individually and the right and left arrow keys increase and decrease the tyre pressure at the pit-stop.

'F6' gives you the tyre pressure (IMO) and wear but this is not live data like you get in GTR2, it's info. from your last pit-stop.

As you've probably discovered, there's no pit-limiter so if you do pit (which you shouldn't need to in this race) be careful. The penalty is a black flag stop & go.

The blue flag when you are getting lapped is informational only, you won't get a penalty for not obeying. Normal SRouk rules / ettiquette apply so there won't be any problems.

It only tells you to slow down if you've gone off course or cut the course, similar to the warnings in GTR2 when you cut. It doesn't differentiate between deliberate course cutting and losing control and cutting the course so it treats them the same. All you have to do is slow down and the black flag warning disappears. iRacing is a less lenient on course cutting but it works fine.

Glad it helped :)

Onto the pre-race betting...

I'd be AMAZED if you noobs can get anywhere near Paul Richards, Paul Harrington or Brian Kerr this season (just like GT2 then...) but it wouldn't surprise me if you and Truetom can match my pace after a few races.

28 laps around here won't be easy, I know I'll have to take it a bit easy to make sure I finish. Actually, that's my only tactic in iRacing, stay on and hope everyone else falls off ;)

Thanks for info Pops, DG. :)
About the pace and all that stuff: I'll be glad if I finish this race, lol. I'm not very consistent and for every lucky/fast lap I get two slower than average ones.  :D
Looking forward to it, driving model is really good.  8)
I must say, driving Marcos experience helps me here a bit. :angel: I bet sbg is down to 22s by now - 'cause of Marcos only, mind you. :-*

Don't believe SBG's sandbagging comments  ::) ;D

Looking forward to tonight should be good fun and great to see lots of familier names on track!

I can't quite match my PB either which was set before we could take any fuel out. Its never been one of my better circuits pace wise but the racing has always been excellent here with that long front straight especially in these slower cars.

See you all tonight.

I wanted to let you know how I intend moderation to work for this series and a couple of clarifications.

Normal SRouk reporting procedures will be in place but we will also having a look at anyone who is picking up a lot of incident points during the race.

I would suggest that any contact (especially 'rubbing' type contact) in the Skip Barber is unacceptable due to the nature of these cars. Of course, there may be slight accidental 'racing' contact which you might feel is incidental, use your noggin as usual.

Voice and text comms are acceptable during practice but absolutely no voice comms during qually and the race. The usual text comms (pit in / out) are acceptable during qually and the race.

After the race has finished, please wait untill everyone has finished before resuming voice & text comms.

Couple of things to note that are different to GTR2;

iRacing does NOT save the replay by default, you have to remember to save it. I will endeavour to make a replay available after the race for anyone who forgets.

You might notice in qualification you might see a blue flag when you are on an outlap, that means the driver approaching is on a flying lap so please recognise that and act accordingly.

Can't think of anything else at the moment... Sorry this is a bit of a brain dump :D

Can the "fast tow (reset)" number be unlimited? For a few of us, this will be an entirely new experience and I'd be amazed if I didn't fall off at least once and get at least clouted/clout someone at least once. I'd hate to think I could end someones fun that way and, as a trial race, getting as much pracci in as poss is important for at least me.

Good point, I guess there's no real benefit to limiting it.

Unlimited resets it is.

A 'fast' tow is very slow! You will probably go a lap down at least, so it doesn't really get you back in the race.

It's better than not being able to reset at all though especially for the guys who haven't raced the Skip for a while.

Yes, just didn't want people to have the expectation that they could just reset and carry on racing. The word 'fast' is perhaps not the best choice.

Tow trucks supplied by team Lege-ends? I'll be able to come outta the pits next door to the bloke I've clouted at least  ;) Cheers pops.

Good point Paul, let's clarify exactly what a tow does then;


A 'quick tow' is;


But you all knew that becuase you've read the iRacing Sporting Code right? ;D

iSporting Code? Few drivers that I raced with at the time respected any of it. :( I think UKGTR community is miles ahead of any of that public server geezers. :P  Sorry to all UKGTR guys that race there still, only meant those blokeheads that made me quit iR after one month. :(

It was early days - racing the Solstice etc.  I would say the driving standards have improved on the whole, but rookies still make rookie errors, and arses still drive like arses.  As long as you don't expect SRouk-like standards you should be okay.  I'm looking forward to racing in iR again for the first time in a long while - even the "normal" races.

I've also turned on the GPL-style replay clip upload capability of the incident reporting system for iRacing, so if you do need to report something, please edit a small clip out of your client replay and upload using that.

Could someone point me to the schedule for the planned series?  I've seen it before but it seems to have vanished?

It got moved to the correct place (confused me too ;))

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7014.0

Well the dancing is cancelled tonight, so looks like I'm in after all. Talk about your kids messing you around!!

There is a very small chance that I can make this race. Hopefully I will be finishing work @ 8.00PM, so if I get back in time and GF permitting I will see you on track! :)

Bully.

Great news guys, fingers crossed you can make it Bully:)

SERVER IS UP!

Server: SRouk Skip @ Summit
Password as per the initial notice

I'll see you about 8ish

I've seen a few people using some sort of autochat feature but i have never found it in the setup screen. Whats with voice comms? what is it? voice to text? or a TS type thing?

Its a TS type thing, all built into the game. Uses a push to talk function. Setup the key to use in your options screen. You will also need to asign which sound card/device you would like it to use. Its all in the options screen(s)

Bully.

Bloody orange cones ...... grrrrr........

Down for maintainance ???

Any other way of getting in?

Nooooooooooo ! You gotta be kiddin!  :'(

Bully.


oooh just got on there should be back now....

Nevermind it suddenly appeared ;D

Down for me :-\

maintenance :(

Down for maintenance!

What a race that was!

Nose to tail with Richard, Don, Adam and eventually SandBaGgger the whole race.

Couldn't get past Don who drove a stormer and didn't put a foot wrong all race, well done.

Pity Adam finally made a mistake to let me through 2 from the end.

Grats to Paul, Dave and Brendan who filled out the podiums.

Mark Ekins, can you let me know what your SRouk forum name is please? :)

Fun if ultimately frustrating race ...

New PB in a VERY competitive qualifying session set my 7th on the grid, but it could have been anything between about 5th and 12th - I was fortunate to hook a lap up.

Got a decent start to get alongside Ian Curnow (it all seems a bit wrong with all the "proper" names) into T1, and got ahead on the run into T2.  For the next while I was trying to keep up with Stuart.  On lap 4 I saw Darren ahead of us - obvsiously in some sort of trouble, and it only got worse :(

Ian had been on my tail throughout, and a half-spin on lap 6 let him and Richard past .... DOH!  Thankfully I was able to rejoin infront of Don and Pops - and gave chase.  Sensing T1 was where I had the best chance of getting past Richard, I got close enough on lap 9, going up the inside.  We were both pretty tentative ... but these are pretty fragile cars!!

I was hoping to pull away, but it never happened, we were less than half a second apart for ages - T1 giving Richard a couple of half chances which went begging.

Then things got busy!!!  Stuart had an off and rejoined behind Ian, and there was a big old train of cars for a time.

I very nearly got into the back of Stuart into the slow speed section (I should have learnt from this near miss ....) and nearly lost my position as a result. Lap 15 saw a lot of position/paint swapping opportunities into T1, but we all came out in the order we went in .... and with all our own paint!

Lap 17 saw Richard dissapear (literally - did you get some lag) and spin on the exit of the penultimate corner - I very nearly lost it too - we were both with 2 wheels on the grass.

Lap 18 saw me get horribly out of shap on the last turn - and with a black flag I had to really slow down to avoid going over the s/f line with it flashing at me. Don flew by, and by T1 Pops was in close attendance. Don, Pops and I got the gaps down between us but never really saw any passing opportunities.

Don and Ian Curnow got very close into T1 on lap 26, allowing me a real chance to make a move on Don, but I never really had enough momentum to carry me past.  Don nearly got caught out under braking into the twisty bit (that's warning 2 for me...) and again, it was nearly enough to let me have a real stab at a pass, but ultimately nothing.  With brakes and tyres having seen better days, there were more half chances out of T1 and round to the twisty section .... with the bit between my teeth and time running out I was gearing up for a charge .... missed my braking point and went onto the dirt - letting Pops by.  DOH!!!!!!!!

That was that .... time had run out, I started 7th, finished 8th.

Roll on week 1!

A little disappointed but overall really enjoyed it tonight. Amazingly close racing.

I got off to a fantastic start jumping up to three places into the first corner. The race then settled down nicely with only a few seconds spliting P4 to P9. I was very happy with my pace running closely behind Adam Parle in P7. Unfortunately I made the fatal error of running on the grass on the penulimate corner whilst concentrating too hard on the car in front.  :(

After recovering from the spin and fortunately avoiding contact with the cars behind, I rejoined in  P10 and put in a few good laps but by then I was too far away to catch back up. Shame  :(

My only concern with these cars is that is very difficult to overtake without risking it all.

That's Spanner.

Well that could have been a great race!

I totally messed the start as usual and lost at least 3 places. What is the technique for getting these bloody things away from standstill? I have a clutch pedal but I think it's a hinderence in the Skippies.

For about 3 laps I was all over Iain like a rash and had a go in to T1 but we came out level and I had to give up the place as we approached the left kink. Then I half attempted the T1 move again the next lap but got a bump from behind that cost me a lot of time. Two cars went by, both of which I subsequently re-passed but by then Iain was a tiny pixel in the distance. I plugged away for the whole race and was pleased to see I'd just got in to the 1:22's at one point to post the 4th fastest race lap. Just as I caught the group of cars that were having so much fun in front of me the damn chequered flag came out!!!

Oh, forgot to mention, I think it all seems a bit right with all these "proper" names!!   :)

Absolutely corking way to kick off my return to iRacing. New PB in qually bagged me fourth on the grid behind two of the Leg Ends and Brendan. Good start from all of us, and it was no surprise to see Paul immediately start to gently pull away.

More of a surprise was that not only was Brendan glued to Darren's gearbox, but I was hanging on to the pair of them with very little effort. After a few laps Brendan got enough of a run on Darren to challenge him into turn 1, and I couldn't say no to the chance to try and follow him through. That ended up with Darren and I side by side down into the evil left hander - he was on the inside so I braked early to give him the corner, but unfortunately we just touched (0x Contact) and he lost a place and a few seconds making an amazing save.

I figured it wouldn't be long before he got back into 4th and then caught me, and I planned to offer no resistance, but sadly he went off a few laps later and quit. I hope I didn't give him a puncture or something. :-\

I thought that after that Brendan would start to eek away, but instead I could see he was taking big risks in places and soon I was being happily towed along by him at qualifying pace. I wasn't at all sure I could pull away if I passed him, but it was very clear that I had a very good car on the brakes; I could brake a good 40-50 yards later into T1, and I planned to simply follow him until the last lap and then spring a little surprise when it was too late to fight back after it.

However, as we started to lap cars, he went very defensive on the run down the main straight, so I threw caution to the wind, outbraked him round the outside into T1, then won the drag race up to the fast left hander and swept into 2nd place. The question was... could I hold it, or would he simply breeze back past?

Turns out it was the wrong question. The real question was... in his desire to wrestle the place back, would the risks he was taking in that fast left hander pay off? The answer... "no"! :laugh: Looking at the replay it appears that he just touched the grass on the outside and went into a big spin. :o

That left me in a very secure 2nd place, so I backed off into the 23s and cruised home, finishing close to Paul that I expected - only about 14 seconds behind. 8)


It's a big risk if you can't trust the other car(s), but as long as everyone is aware of what's going on, and are prepared to give each other racing room, the Skippy does produce really excellent racing. :thumbup1:

TBH, you could have had me at T1 a couple of times I think, you've just got to trust that the guy in front sees it coming, and doesn't do something rash.

The Skippy is a tough car to make overtakes with, more often than not it'll be mistake that lets people by I think, as you really have to have a good run out of a corner to pass under power.

The racing was really good today though, some mental moments mid race with 4 of us nose to tail!!

Good stuff.

Looks like I missed out on a great race.

It's good to read that it went well and everyone seems positive.

Roll on next week.

Yep that'll be me. managed to lap a bit quicker than before which i was pleased about, glad you posted up that setup Dave but was never really happy as the brakes were far too sensitve as I was locking up all the time. After the third spin just after the tight left hander ending up on the inside i didnt want to risk it and thought i'd jump back to the pits. TBH i dont mind being erratic in the public races but with you guys i'm not sure i really want to mess things up.

Maybe I was a little too cautious...but I was trying to force a mistake rather than try an overtake.

I had to set the brake linearity back to 1.0 - I understand why they've changed it to support load cell pedals, but the new default of 1.8 is almost unusable on normal pot pedals as it moves most of the brake action up into the top third of the pedal travel, making it very hard to be progressive.

As for the tight left after the right hand kink, you need to make sure you use the different coloured tarmac patch on the left, as the stuff on the outside has a lot less grip, and you don't want the left wheels on one patch and the right wheels on the other.

I'll give that a try Dave, although I have improved my brake feel by setting the BB to 50.

Good first iR race that :) Dreadful start for me and iR makes it a full sweep of sims that I can't do standing starts in (rolling please ;)). Then had bit of quite race with Stuart steadily going away and just about holding a steady gap to various Leg-ends behind. Then Stuart has an off and unluckily just clipped me on his way back. Then, all hell broke loose until end of race, great fun Don :) Despite the pressure, brung it home with no offs and never clouted a soul  :) The pace of Paul and Dave :o doesn't seem so far away now.

Gotta say blue flags in quali is an excellent feature. All seemed smooth as regards lag etc. but I did have some poor spells of fps and will have to fiddle with settings. What has biggest fps hit whilst not losing important detail?

can someone post a link to the results pls? (not sure if I can see it but worth a try)

Looks like I missed a good un. Will hopefull be able to take part in a few races.  Didn't get back from work in time for this one.

Not 100% sure this will work

http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/EventResult.do?&subsessionid=1320143&custid=16590

It worked  :)

Thx Paul, you're not all bad  ;D

I've imported the results, let me know if there's anything odd in there.

Good to see everyone enjoyed the racing, it really is a totally different experience when you are racing close with people you can trust. As Darren said before the race, I didn't think we'd ever see Hosted races in iRacing but it seems to be living up to expectations so far. I don't think anything weird happened technically, that's the biggest thing as there's not much we can do about it! :D

Re. the overtaking comments. Summit isn't the best track to produce lots of overtaking opportunities.


Shadows are a killer in iRacing, try turning off "2 pass" and "more shadows".

Looks like it was my fault Darren retired. :-[

Awesome racing with you Guys last night.
Loved the fact that I could trust people out on track not to make any stupid or senseless moves.

I didn't have a great deal of pace (as usual) and had decided beforehand that I'd just try and keep it on and not throw it away like I did last week at LRP.
Had a decent start but gave up one position going into T1.. I spent the next lot of laps following the train of cars in front just giving myself enough of a gap to be able to see clearly into the turns.
I just tried to hold position and keep a slight gap to Pops behind. About the midway point I had one scare as someone span out on the 2nd to last corner and luckily I choose the right way to go and avoided any contact.
Next I got past Adam as he got a slowdown warning out of the last turn. I then slowly closed on SBG and tried to keep him under pressure for the next few laps till the end but he held firm and kept to the racing lines and there was no way past.
Great fun and the best race for me in a long time.
Thanks..

Replay is available; http://www.legendsracingteam.net/iracing/Summit_3Nov.rar

Have to apologize to Ken. Made a pass into T1 and took too much space, contact was my fault. Sorry Ken. :(
Have to do more iPractice, I guess. Get used to the view and amount of sliding.
After contact with Ken the car was less damaged than I feared so I didn't use the tow option. While thinking about it I missed my braking point, spun and hit the wall. And really damaged the car. ::) It was pulling to the left a bit but I carried on and finished in the same lap as the race winner. Good for me. :P

Nice show, Legends, glad to have you all back on track. 8)

Thanks all for yesterdays race, I really enjoyed it.  Will be even better if we can fill the grid up.

I had a good start and jumped Ian Curnow into 5th and settled into a pretty uneventful race to begin with.  I was in no-mans land, being dropped by the front 4 but pulling away from Ian.  Then one of three battling for 2nd made a mistake and T2 and I got passed him into 4th and I then saw him crash out in my mirrors a lap or so later.  So was in a comfortable 4th until I started losing concentration and out braked myself at T4.  Apologies to Ian Curnow, who I clipped when I rejoined.   I looked left and he seemed further away than he actually was, my wheels spun up at the last minute on the grass and then bit when I hit the tarmac pinging me across the track at a weird angle.  Once again apologies.

Rejoined behind Ian and couldn't believe the number of cars I could see in my mirror!  Had a few scary moments where I was convinced Adam was going to crash into the back of me!!  I couldn't believe how late you braked into T4.

Regathered myself and got back passed Ian at T1 and edged away into a safe 4th.  I have to admit, having not raced for over 6 months I found concentration really tough espicially for 40 minutes.  It seemed to go on for ever!  Was pretty chuffed with 4th, didn't know what to expect.

Look forward to racing with you all again

  

Sometimes it was on purpose ... sometimes it REALLY wasn't :D

In the past I've had some success at making a pass into that corner, but got a little over ambitious on occasion - which is what ultimately led to my error that let Pops past.

The number of incident points is now shown in the results. TT 'wins' with 15. :P

;D

Yeah the Skip Barber does slide around a bit TT but you will soon get used to it. Its fastest when you are just on that point of sliding without actually needing a steering correction because if the rear steps out you lose quite a bit of speed and momentum.

It was a tough race all in all. I had a good qually and put in a low 22 quite early on. I wasn't convinced though it would be enough and I was pretty sure Darren, Dave or Brendan would be knocking on the door come the end of the session. I pushed on a bit and on my last lap I dipped into the high 21s giving me enough for pole.

The start went well and I was clear enough of Darren to take a good line into T1.  I could see him, Dave and Brendan having a right ding dong so I pushed really hard in the opening laps to try and open a gap while they were at it. I got this out to about 4 seconds and then relaxed for a few laps but the time wasn't going out hardly at all doing mid 22s. I dropped into the low 22s and got the gap out to about 7 seconds. I have never done 40 mins in the skip barber before so I relaxed again and Dave kept the gap pretty much pegged. As the fuel dropped the car felt great in the slower section as the car turned in a little better although I had to take it easier on the exit of T1 as the rears were wearing a little. The gap went out to 10 seconds and the car felt great so I pushed for the last 6 laps and dropped just into the 21s again finishing 14 secs clear as Dave eased off.

Great to see all the familier names and there seemed to be some great racing going on from the bits of the replay I saw. Thanks to those cars for the help in the lapping very much appreciated. Looking forward to the season. not sure that I will be able to make the final few races of the season with the impending first child in early Jan. As everyone gets more and more familier with the car the racing is going to be epic I think.   

Sounds like you had a good one guys!
Would like to join you soon!
Need to think about dates etc.
I like to do my PnG too!
Any chance it could be every other Tuesday!?
Just a suggestion!?

M.

lol! It already is! That was the only race that will clash with PnG, the season proper starts next week and will be very fortnight.

Or indeed every fortnight. :laugh:

Results now imported harder, with gaps for those on the lead lap. The total race time is not very accurate; the only source for the data is average lap time multiplied by laps complete, and the average time isn't always correct. But it should normally be good enough for our purposes.

There's also a link in the title bar of the results box which takes you to the iRacing results page.

Meh, I'd pick the st00pid points in GTR2 also if it would have the same st00pid detection. Had one wheel on the grass/sand? So what, if the track allows it. :(  Besides, I'm still FAR in the "two wheels on black" rule. :(

I think it's something like more than 50% of your car over the white line you get a 1x in iR TT. As much as we all like to deny it (I know I do) if it gives you the 1x you must have been off. it is very frustrating sometimes especially when you think you've hardly strayed off circuit

WoW! What a great way to kick of league iRacing.

I was a little sceptical of doing well here after not turning a wheel for a few months and was pleasantly surprised with a PB to claim 3rd on the grid.  I had a decent start and managed to slip past Darren at T1 to claim 2nd on lap 3.

After Dave had snuck by into 3rd, the plan was to try and pull away enough of a gap to cement a solid 2nd place finish.  Dave, however, had other ideas.  Lap after lap after lap the gap remained below 1 second and I started making a few little errors here and there.  Dave was obviously quicker in the slow corners but I was managing to maintain the gap through the quicker ones.  That was until I got a poor exit from the last turn and Dave pulled off an audacious move round the outside of T1.  Obviously, I had to yield into the fast left hander.

One thing I noticed was that my car seemed very loose when following Dave (still not sorted the aero yet?).  Heading into the fast left hander, I got my right rear on the grass and spun off, luckily keeping it out of the tyre wall.  After that, it was just a case of keeping all 4 wheels on the black stuff and trundling round for a pleasing 3rd place.

Grats Paul and Dave and thanks all for a great race.

This isn't GTR2, the rule is NOT "two wheels on the tarmac" in iRacing. We can't control that, if you go 50% off then you will pick up incident points.

No-one is going to get penalised in this league for getting a few 1x incidents. It's worth looking at the number of incidents you pick up though because in the Skippy, getting a couple of wheels off-track can easily lead to a spin which is dangerous.

Think those incidents were a total of pracci/quali and race? Cause I'm pretty sure I didn't get many in race.

TT, why are you bothered? We are under the UKGTR mod umbrella now and can largely ignore that nonsense now :) 

That cant be right, I was working last night, so i never joined the start anyway!

Will be working for next week and half, 8pm - 7am :(

The way the exports work is that if you join any session (you were in praccy) then you feature in the final race results.

Not a problem anyway.

Nope, they were just the race results. The incidents for praccy and qually are recorded separately but don't feature in the export we use to populate the results.

Anyway, incidents aren't a big deal unless someone starts racking up a huge amount and that won't happen because we're not a bunch of loonies :)

I'm bothered by any statistics 'cause I get an overdose of it every day at work. ;D

That reminds me - I believe that as things stand, once somebody has joined their slot is reserved for the entire hosted event - even if they then withdraw - so at the tracks with smaller maximum field sizes it would be good to avoid anyone joining in practice who doesn't intend to race.

Sounds similar to my working pattern - 7am to 8am. :laugh: :angel:

can you not withdraw?

You can, but according to the forums the slot remains marked as used - hence Rob appearing in the race results.

How do I do that, my brakes were fully locked up when about 50% pressed down on my G25 pedals?

Yeah tell all, been suffering too :(

How do you set the brake linerarity setting? Its the slider on the left in the controller setup screen (the first one).

I actually found moving up to 2.5 gave me a better setting though its completely opposite to how i have every other sim set. It allows for more adjustment at the end of the movement, though i guess it means it ramps to it quicker. Watching the pedal movement with it at 1 didnt seem to different.

Though am i right in thinking if i was to set sensitivity at 20% in GTR2, i should set it to 0.2 in iRacing as an equivilant?

(Wish i could find those graphs on SimHQ forums which better explained the curve!)

Yes, I tried setting it back to 1.0 but it seemed more prone to locking and gave me less feel for trail braking. Currently I have it back to the default 1.8.

No. 50% in ISI-based sims appears to equate to 1.0 in iRacing. I don't know exactly how they translate but I would guess that it's the other way round - 0.2 would be somewhere above 1.5 - probably a long way above it.


Oddly enough, with the G27 I've had to bump it back up to nearly 1.8, so I suspect that the stiffer the pedal the higher the number needs to be.

Yes, I think so Dave. I have Speed 7's with the extra rubber spacer in the brake to stiffen it up.