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Title: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 09, 2009, 08:32:12 AM +0000
This is a new version of Mosport, which is (or should be!) identical to the version we've used before, except that the lap count has been adjusted in the UKGTR version so that timed races do not end short.

Practice 1:20:30(15 mins)
Qual 2:20:45(15 mins)
Race:21:00(60 minutes)note: no warmup

Cars allowed: Any GT1 or GTC from the v2.10.5.0 pack (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics))
Weather: dry.
Track: UKGTR Mosport 1977 (v3.0.1.0; download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_mosport77)).
In-Game Race Start Time: 14:00.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR Special
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
  • Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
  • You will not be able to join the server without v2.10.5.0 of the UKGTR car pack and track (see download links above).
    You will not see skins without the optional skin pack.
  • Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
  • Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 09, 2009, 05:56:42 PM +0000
For this event we'll use an updated version of Mosport 1977 with the lap count corrected for timed races. Practice server has been updated.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Truetom on November 09, 2009, 06:38:18 PM +0000
 Always loved the track, narrow and twisty. 'sgonna be like Friday 13th. I'm scared already. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 11, 2009, 11:21:26 AM +0000
Gotta say that its a pleasure to test a few GTC cars, with S11 in mind, as I'm not enjoying my time in iR land as yet. Whats a good GTC time? I've done a high 17 in the 997 cup but am wondering if its competitive, can't wait to give the Spyker a try.

Again, this track is brilliant to hotlap in but racing, and mixed   :) Hopefully a fullish crowd to really test it would be nice.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Truetom on November 12, 2009, 05:31:23 PM +0000
Sub 1:12 in race spec in GT1 Aston. Is that fast or slow? ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Josè Arrogantio on November 12, 2009, 07:10:07 PM +0000
My best so far in the 550 is a 1:11.9 in race spec.  :-\


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Joss on November 12, 2009, 07:19:01 PM +0000
I'll try and make this.......what car to use? Maybe the Lambo :o
I wonder if Simon has made me a green one yet?  ;D ;D :angel:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 12, 2009, 11:27:28 PM +0000
The Spyker is quite a bit quicker, around 3/4 of second, than the 997 around here for me. I thought it would be all grunt but it handles and brakes really nicely, in fact its very nice  :)  


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Jimmie on November 13, 2009, 07:27:37 PM +0000
The Spyker is quite a bit quicker, around 3/4 of second, than the 997 around here for me. I thought it would be all grunt but it handles and brakes really nicely, in fact its very nice  :)  

Don't advertise it too much :angel:

Though next season it'll probably have a bit less power I guess, if Dave follows my suggestion of -1/-2% torque.


Sadly I'll miss this race, have fun!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: nsfast on November 15, 2009, 04:23:33 PM +0000
Has the password been released yet  ???

Nothing is showing up for me.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 15, 2009, 04:34:18 PM +0000
Oops, would help if I actually filled a password in!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: nsfast on November 15, 2009, 04:44:08 PM +0000
Thanks Dave  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Legzy on November 15, 2009, 09:10:06 PM +0000
Rob kept losing connection & each time he rejoined I got kicked out.
he lost connection with 44 secs to go. I said on TS "I hope you rejoining does not kick me out again as I wont have enough time to rejoin".... guess how that one ended.

A total waste of the time I spent doing laps here as practice. Very not happy bunny. >:(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 15, 2009, 09:19:39 PM +0000
A total waste of the time I spent doing laps here as practice. Very not happy bunny. >:(

Ditto  :-[ Other reasons but pretty p poor really.

The Spyker is a tad too fast I would say but it would be nice to have tested it over a full race to be sure. Some nice motors in GTC  :)
 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: H@L9000 on November 15, 2009, 09:26:56 PM +0000
That was shaping up to be a nice race, but then, I lost control. :'(

Tried to get back to the pits but lost it again and got stuck in a ditch. ::)

Nice track, hard work with multi class format, but still fun. I did not notice any technical issues.

Have a nice race all. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: goldtop on November 15, 2009, 09:43:19 PM +0000
First corner shennanigans gifted me first spot in the GTCs, which I managed to hold onto quite comfortably for 10 laps. Then the GT1s started lapping, which had me driving in my mirrors and off I went :(

A mixture of pushing too hard to get back and being annoyed with myself for making such a stupid mistake and I was off again...and again..... ::) Picked up some damage the last time and decided to end the misery :wetfish:

Had a cut warning while avoiding the first corner crash which seemed a bit strange; maybe I crossed the pit exit  ???

Hope others fared better tonight.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 15, 2009, 09:56:57 PM +0000
It seems that Mosport's not really going to be viable for mixed class racing, which is a bit of a shame.

I jumped straight out of a Daytona Prototype race (4th - no incidents ;) :D ) and into this event. I'd done a few laps earlier in the 997 Cup to make sure my RSR setup worked, which it did, and spent practice and qualifying tweaking it a bit more.

Once the race got underway, I settled into a decent pace behind Prof, and after a few laps was able to start threatening him, especially through the last few corners where I seemed to have much better pace. Finally shaped up for a pass on his Z4M as FreQ reached us; made the pass stick and then found myself in a horrible position; all race I'd struggled to get the nose into the first part of turn 2, and here I was on the outside, with FreQ going for the inside and Prof right behind, probably thinking about whether he could sneak back past.

Of course I run off... no problem... just coax it back... uh oh... barrier... brace for impact... SMUNCH! Check engine... still running... woo! Quick, get back on and head for an early pit stop to repair the front... hang on a moment... why isn't it steering properly? er... where's my right front wheel? ???

Almost a repeat of what happened at Zhuhai - if I'd impacted almost anywhere else on the barriers I've had been okay, but it struck just where the tyre barrier started, jutting out from the armco. Race over. :'(

Maybe we should have a Super Endurance special here with just the GTCs...


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: picnic on November 15, 2009, 10:34:36 PM +0000
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20091115%20U10/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Prof on November 15, 2009, 10:35:00 PM +0000
I can't believe I managed an hour without falling off at T2. It gets me every time normally even back to GPL days. Unfortunately the pit speed lane measuring guy was a bit keen and that meant I spent the last 20 minutes chasing Picnic in order not to finish last after a stop/go.
The Spyker has a big advantage here and may prove popular in S11 unless tweaked - best part of a second with barely any setup time - just love driving the Z4 though.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: nsfast on November 15, 2009, 11:08:23 PM +0000
I've no problem with using this track in future. Enjoyed racing here tonight. Just a shame so many ended up leaving early.  :(

Seemed fine for multi class events. There are plenty of opportunities to overtake safely.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Joss on November 16, 2009, 01:19:14 AM +0000
Great fun, loved the track. Nice n' fast ;D

Replay 996 - Me pushing Dave off
Replay 1500 - Me spinning

I was unlucky when TT lapped Prof and Dave on the straight and I then got stuck behind them as they pulled alongside to duel. I thought I'd done a nice move to slice past both of them but I think putting Dave on the outside of that fast left made it difficult for him to turn in, sadly ending his race.  :'(

Then I spun at turn 1 - too much inside kerb; and was very lucky to hit the barrier square on with the rear of the car, only taking minor damage. The car hardly lost any speed at all, it just felt a little more slippy at the rear.

Had a great dice with TT all through the race. In qualifying due to hardly running, I ran my race setup for almost all of it to tweak it. When I put on the qually setup at the end, I had 3 laps and spun on my second, overheating the rears which messed up my final lap too. Second was good though ;)

Don't really know how I beat him in the pits though. The Lambo should be the slowest car in the pits because of it's thirst but I *just* beat him out despite entering the pits about 6 seconds behind him. Strangely, the car also felt a lot nicer in the second stint than the first and my best lap went from an 11.7 to an 11.1, consistently. Maybe we were just getting faster as we did more laps?

Anyway, was fun. Just annoyed I played a part in my team mate's exit  :-X


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Truetom on November 16, 2009, 06:55:58 AM +0000
Meh, I don't get this pit thingy. :-\ Started with a full tank, pitted at half and took 30 litres of fuel, changed tyres and was off. No visible delay. I had a few seconds lead, but still Freq came out in front. 10+ seconds! How? ??? How much fuel did you take, Freq? Astons fuel usage about 2,6 l/lap.
Anyways, got pole which is always nice. :) Could keep a comfortable lead to Freq-sama and was confident he can't overtake on track. I still think so, even in the second stint I think I could do it - if I was in front. ::)
Aston is a great car, wing 5 was quite comfortable through corners and fast on the straight. :) GTCs were great. 8)

Man, I really thought I could beat Freakie for the first time. ;)


P.S. Did I really have a pleasure to see Legzy in Marcos? Was busy trying to qualify, so I just thought I saw it while taxiing by in the pits. Legzy then had a disco just before the race started, so I don't know. That car is not right for this track anyways. ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Legzy on November 16, 2009, 10:05:46 AM +0000
P.S. Did I really have a pleasure to see Legzy in Marcos? Was busy trying to qualify, so I just thought I saw it while taxiing by in the pits. Legzy then had a disco just before the race started, so I don't know. That car is not right for this track anyways. ;)
I wasn't fast in it by any stretch of the imagination, but it felt quite reasonable to drive here. But I learned last season that you never know a car till you've raced with it, so I'm not committed to it just yet. I'm going to read through the "Marcos Helpline... for TT" thread properly again, to give me a head-start. First impressions, it drinks a lot of fuel (slightly bigger fuel tank please Dave? ;)) & wears it's front tyres somewhat seriously :laugh:

I'm hoping next Sunday will involve GT1's again, I'll give the Marcos another try in practice/prep & hopefully the race.
Of course I'll need to check it out in wet conditions too :o.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: lazlow on November 16, 2009, 05:20:41 PM +0000
Totally messed up the start by taking to much kerb at turn one.....span round in the middle of the track...then had to quickly press escape before I caused to much carnage....sorry guys  :-[


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 10 - Mosport - Nov 15
Post by: Joss on November 17, 2009, 02:45:40 AM +0000
Meh, I don't get this pit thingy. :-\ Started with a full tank, pitted at half and took 30 litres of fuel, changed tyres and was off. No visible delay. I had a few seconds lead, but still Freq came out in front. 10+ seconds! How? ??? How much fuel did you take, Freq? Astons fuel usage about 2,6 l/lap.

I was using about 2.6-2.7 a lap too. I topped up just over 30l and put meds on.
Think you just need to practise pit stops, if you get them bang on you can save a lot of time. I've run through my pit methodology before but got my wrist slapped from Simon for giving out team secrets  :-X

I got the fuel spot on this time too for the first time ever - finished with below 3l.