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Title: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on November 16, 2009, 12:06:06 AM +0000
Season 18 Novices Trophy - Round 5 - Clermont Ferrand (Charade)

The fifth race of the season is in France at the challenging Clermont Ferrand circuit in the Auvergne Mountains.  This is not the longest track on this season's calendar (Spa and Solitude are longer), but it is very twisty and difficult to pass on so each lap seems longer.  Patience and concentration will be required here.

We don't have enough grid slots to accomodate all the full-time and reserve drivers so the reserve drivers should only join if a grid slot is available (usually the case).  Consequently, reserve drivers should not join the race server whilst there is more than 30 mins of qualifying left.  Full time drivers must join the server promptly (before there is only 30 minutes of qualifying left) to be sure of a grid slot.  

Having joined the server, no drivers should go out on track until there is 30 minutes of qualifying left - this helps to ensure all the full-time drivers have joined the server successfully before qualifying begins.

Please restrict chat to "pit in" / "pit out"  messages, and at the end of the race avoid chat until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Please be in the IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password)

Server = 6.UKGPL
IP Address = 80.5.200.198
Race Date = 17-11-2009
Time = 21:00
Track = Clermont Ferrand 1965  -  download the track here (http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?limit=10&author=&country=&type=&kind=&state=&sort=&show_results=0&show_gplrank=&intr=&sbtd=Clermont&menu=Show_Letters&send=Search)
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qually Time = 30 minutes.
Race Length = Long (12 Laps)
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=223;theme=6)

Chassis allocations are below, and the same chassis will be used for all races this season unless there is an adjustment agreed by the moderator.  Please note chassis adjustments can be made at any time not just at the mid season review.  Good luck!

FULL TIME DRIVERS
Burtoner - Brabham BT7
G Poole - Brabham BT11
Vosblod - Lotus
Happy Al - Lotus
Maestro - Brabham BT11
Nicky - Cooper
Bookie - Ferrari
Norbert - Ferrari
NHance - BRM
Al Heller - BRM
Il Lupo - Ferrari
RogUK - BRM
Mark65 - Brabham BT11
Barry De La Rosa - Ferrari
Billy Nobrakes - Brabham BT11
Bernie - Honda
Tussman - Brabham BT11
Roberto Motta - Lotus

RESERVE DRIVERS
Viss - Ferrari
Karliss - Honda
D-Rock - Lotus
Gilles27 - Lotus
Nigel Smith - Lotus


Please use the updated 65 mod for this race.
If you have re-installed UKGPL over the summer break or are joining us for the first time, please don't forget to use the updated 65 mod which is available here: Jamesonline.net/UKGPL (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/1965mod_PATCH_v2.0.2_Setup.zip)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: Al Heller on November 16, 2009, 08:50:40 AM +0000
Came across some rather fascinating footage of the original 1965 race at Clermont for anyone who wants to get into the mood (not sure about the Benny Hill style background music though) :

http://vimeo.com/1601414 (http://vimeo.com/1601414)

Also the 1970 race:

http://vimeo.com/1510295 (http://vimeo.com/1510295)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: bernie on November 16, 2009, 12:04:07 PM +0000
fabulous videos Al , thanks very much for posting  :thumbup2:



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on November 16, 2009, 07:42:05 PM +0000
Inspirational!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: maestro57 on November 16, 2009, 10:20:18 PM +0000
 :'( :'( :'(

Gonna be away tomorrow eve in Leeds so will miss this one

GLA


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: Mark65 on November 17, 2009, 03:34:33 AM +0000
No way I can learn this track in time to even get up to my usual "menace" level of driving... ;)  So I'll be sitting this one out.
Hope to see you in two weeks at Zandy

Mark


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on November 17, 2009, 10:57:51 AM +0000
This is turning into Black Night Racing's night off. Have parental duties tonight so I won't be taking part. Even so I really dislike this track.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: bernie on November 17, 2009, 08:14:59 PM +0000
Strange and dark choice of p/w there my boy  :o



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: Phil Thornton on November 17, 2009, 11:30:42 PM +0000
Strange and dark choice of p/w there my boy  :o
Well didn't expect the frogs to name the first right hander after a :death: :devil:  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: vosblod on November 18, 2009, 02:01:46 AM +0000
Big thanks to Nicky, I felt like the Captain of the Titanic until you found the lifeboats  :boat:

Race : I had some forlorn hope but a disco put me out.

AND : A humungeous slap on the back to Al for getting first and not tossing it away man


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: NHance on November 18, 2009, 10:41:12 AM +0000
This was one to survive not race. Happy with my qually time & 6th but slow off the line & a cold tyre spin left me 12th at the end of lap 1. Now I was behind all those who were slower in qually so all I could do was catch them & hope for a mistake. Basically everyone obliged by crashing & I finished 6th. The only actual race was when I momentarilly passed Bookie at the first right hander but he was having non of it & went round the outside to hold his place. Nice driving!. Only blot was that when Bookie spun I hit him & he overturned so he would have to shift R. Pity 'cos it was a good chase.
 
Never felt so tired as when I finished this one. The hardest race I think I have ever had on UKGPL because of the track, not the actual racing.
My sound problem arose as well but a mouse click brought it back without any crash.
Norm H


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: Al Heller on November 18, 2009, 11:28:50 AM +0000
First of all a very big thank-you to Nicky for his last-minute hosting :thumbup2:. Hope it didn't affect your race too much having to rush around getting it all ready. 

I didn't have much time to practice for this race as I had been concentrating on last Sunday's 67 race at Bremgarten, but all the server problems meant we had a good deal of extra running anyway - I lost count of how many warm-up laps I started but I certainly knew sector 1 well by the time we switched servers ;).

Tussman & D-Rock looked to have sewn up the front row in qually but my last-gasp final lap just nicked pole. I got a decent start so was surprised to see Tussman surging ahead into T1 but after checking the replay saw that of course we didn't have our usual staggered grid so we'd both started side-by-side.

Right after the start Tussman was warping pretty badly - his car appeared to be hopping around so I decided I'd better follow at a safe distance but as we reached the top of the hill he had a big sideways moment which caused me to close up. Haven't seen the server replay yet but my replay shows a clear warp incident - Tussman turns in from my right & yet the very next frame he has suddenly jumped over my car & is running on my left - there doesn't even appear to be any contact but nevertheless Tussman's car gets an invisible nudge. I'll submit an incident report with my replay just in case the server doesn't show it - but a shame that we didn't get a chance to race properly. After that I just tried to keep a steady pace & ensure I didn't make any mistakes.

Congratulations to Tussman for 2nd and also to D-Rock for a very impressive podium & fastest lap on his debut. Looks like the new boys will be a force to be reckoned with in the 2nd half of the season :fencing: 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: bernie on November 18, 2009, 11:29:50 AM +0000
Got to be one of my worst performances , I was feeling off color having just had the pig flue jab ( so 2 flue jabs inside 10 days )
wouldnt mind but I dont eat bacon sarnies , but do enjoy the odd pork now and again  ;)

Anyway back to the race ......

Qually was a write off for most of us I suppose , every outlap was rubbished by being discod after starting a flying lap lost count of the untimed laps I did , the result by the time Nicky applied the kiss of life to the server I was already past my best (which wasn't that good before iykwim )  ::)

managed an OK lap (for me ) to get 5th on the grid which became 4th a short while later and thought if I could close the gap to the leaders , maybe a podium was on the cards , but from there things went from  bad to worse as I overcooked it and slid off track somewhere after the downhill hairpin ,then in my efforts to make up time I became more and more ragged and the mistakes got more frequent culminating in having to s/r and pit in .

The last straw saw me stuck in the straw on the last bend of the last lap .

I used to read Motorsport GP reports in the 60's and 70's on this track, I can distinctly remember more than one driver feeling sick after a few laps of this helter skelter ride (dark shades of charlie manson for those who know of him ) even my favourite charger Jochen Rhindt felt ill racing here , I now know why

 ::) ::) ::)

  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: G Jonsson on November 18, 2009, 12:56:04 PM +0000
My plan was to win this one. And it started fine, p2 on the grid and took the start.

If I just stayed on the racing line all should be fine. But of cause I didn't and "with a little help form my friends" I was down in p4.

By the time Nicky and D-rock had "let" me bay Al was too fare away. Then I only sat there and waited for him to make a mistake and of cause he didn't, so "only" p2 for me.

Well see you at Zandvoort.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: G Poole on November 18, 2009, 04:44:03 PM +0000
Had a good race on my own, and at least finished for once. Humble apologies to Vos for the punt on the first lap, the crash engine went into hyperdrive.

Graham :-[


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: vosblod on November 18, 2009, 06:17:44 PM +0000
Humble apologies to Vos for the punt on the first lap, the crash engine went into hyperdrive.
No worries - this wasn't my track anyway.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: D-Rock on November 18, 2009, 10:27:38 PM +0000
Relatively uneventful debut for me, I dropped to 5th at the start then gained a couple spots from spins. Lap 2, I believe, saw a VERY close miss when Nicky spun in front of me through one of the fast right handers on the back side of the circuit. A couple laps later I spun in the twisty bits after the hairpin, letting Tussman by in the process. Pretty much nothing happened after that, other than the fastest lap on lap 10 and a spin on lap 11, in the same spot as the first one.

A podium was definitely nice, seeing as going into the event I was worried I'd be slow and in the way. The fastest lap came as a surprise too, since I thought I was driving pretty conservatively. Overall it was some very good racing, much more challenging than racing a bunch of 12 year olds on Xbox Live  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: G Jonsson on November 20, 2009, 12:32:55 AM +0000
I must be blind, where do you find the replay?

When I go to the replays and click on 2009.11.17 Novs_Cler there is nothing.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: vosblod on November 20, 2009, 01:00:26 AM +0000
I must be blind, where do you find the replay?
When I go to the replays and click on 2009.11.17 Novs_Cler there is nothing.
Seems to have been an issue loading the replay. I have a direct download from Nicky that I will put up tomorrow from the work pc.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: miner2049er on November 20, 2009, 09:33:54 AM +0000
I've has server issues this week and I think the app I sent Nicky to use has connected to an old server and uploaded it there.

Not sure really but we'll get it eventually.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: BookieW on November 20, 2009, 02:42:45 PM +0000
It was an unusual night for me.  I was doing all right for a while and then decided to take a "shortcut"  across the switchback at the beginning of sector 2!  After rolling over, the car seemed all right so I motored on.  It was slower though and something must have been damaged.  Trying to return to my earlier pace, errors began to accumulate and ended when I blew the engine.  I know it's a shift r league, but I felt I had used up my quota for the night and decided to call it just that, A night! :'(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: G Jonsson on November 22, 2009, 10:46:04 AM +0000
Still no replay.

Is there some other place I can get it?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: vosblod on November 22, 2009, 05:22:55 PM +0000
Still no replay.
Is there some other place I can get it?
Sorry I have been away from the office - will try and get it sorted tomorrow...

UPDATE: Now uploaded to the usual place http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/2009.11.17_Novs_Clermont/ (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/2009.11.17_Novs_Clermont/)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: NickyIckx on November 24, 2009, 01:45:32 PM +0000
 ;D :)

lucky to be able brought  the server to work in time...
even more lucky on turning out P4 , as my performance was really not good . left the track so many times...

congratulation to AL , Tussman  and Rock an all takin part  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


well , will try to prepare my 2nd PC for upcoming Zandvoort race ,, just in case...
btw.  I noticed my loose starting grid for CF wasnt the right one to use. what kind of startingg grid do fit more good for our online races ?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: vosblod on November 24, 2009, 01:53:37 PM +0000
well , will try to prepare my 2nd PC for upcoming Zandvoort race ,, just in case...
btw.  I noticed my loose starting grid for CF wasnt the right one to use. what kind of startingg grid do fit more good for our online races ?
Thanks Nicky, working on ukgpl6 so hopeful it will be ok. I had wireless switched on even though not used - maybe that will help.

Re grid - we usually use the Paul Jackson 1*1 staggered. For Zandvoort I have;

[ starting_grid_0 ]
  ; SpeedCenter tested format 1x1 staggered grid for better online starts
  ; polesitter on right
  ; track length is <4189.39>
  ; grid front center at <4178.70,  0.00>
  ; width between boxes  3.10
stall_0 = 4177.50 -3.75
stall_1 = 4162.00  1.55
stall_2 = 4147.66 -3.75
stall_3 = 4132.16  1.55
stall_4 = 4117.82 -3.75
stall_5 = 4102.32  1.55
stall_6 = 4087.98 -3.75
stall_7 = 4072.48  1.55
stall_8 = 4057.14 -3.75
stall_9 = 4042.64  1.55
stall_10 = 4027.30 -3.0
stall_11 = 4012.80  1.55
stall_12 = 3997.46 -2.9
stall_13 = 3982.96  1.55
stall_14 = 3967.62 -2.7
stall_15 = 3952.12  1.55
stall_16 = 3937.78 -2.7
stall_17 = 3922.28  1.55
stall_18 = 3907.94 -2.7
stall_19 = 3892.44  1.55

If you have the multi-season update don't forget to change track65.ini as well as track.ini


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Charade (1958-1988) - Nov 17
Post by: miner2049er on November 24, 2009, 06:21:01 PM +0000
My CF grid was wrong too and I had applied a Paul Jackson one.

Zandvoort has been used before so mine should be OK.