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Title: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on November 20, 2009, 11:48:24 AM +0000
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Practice 1: 19:20 (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (15 laps (~40mins)) note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: All the "fast cars" (GT40's, 906's, Cobra 427, L88's & anything you're planning to drive for the Christmas event PLUS the 911's)

Weather: A typical British summers day (i.e. A dry start likely to be followed by a heavy downpour before easing off again)

Track: Spa 2003
Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING

Minimum Pit-stops: None required.

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Password: see above (#post_event_password)

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Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on November 20, 2009, 11:50:36 AM +0000
The next PnG race will take place at Spa.

If people want to come forward with a few suggestions on Car Choice & Weather setting, then I'll try to get a feel over the next couple of days for what is most popular?


THIS IS NOT A TOKENS EVENT (OR ANY OTHER CLUBMANS SYSTEM).


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on November 20, 2009, 11:54:38 AM +0000
My suggestion as a driver, would be to use some of the slower cars that were not included in our Clubmans series range.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: goldtop on November 20, 2009, 11:58:25 AM +0000
My suggestion as a driver, would be to use some of the slower cars that were not included in our Clubmans series range.


 :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: pribeiro on November 20, 2009, 12:18:59 PM +0000
My suggestion as a driver, would be to use some of the slower cars that were not included in our Clubmans series range.


Agree and to turn up the challenge, maybe some random rain also?  :D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Geoffers on November 20, 2009, 12:42:26 PM +0000
My suggestion as a driver, would be to use some of the slower cars that were not included in our Clubmans series range.


Sounds good to me  :thumbup2:. Some changeable weather also sounds good.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on November 20, 2009, 12:56:38 PM +0000
Anything,   :wheelchair:  :scooter:  :tank: so long as you decide quickly and let me start practicing.   :thumbup2:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 20, 2009, 01:04:27 PM +0000
This is a non-token event?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on November 20, 2009, 01:06:19 PM +0000
This is a non-token event?
This is a Non-Token event. Go easy on the champagne ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Manteos on November 20, 2009, 01:07:51 PM +0000
My suggestions are 2:

1) Mini vs Abarth challenge, even if on the Kemmel straight there's the risk to fall asleep. ;D ;D

2) It's totally opposed to the first... Gt40 challenge! Letting the slower drivers to take the GT40 Gulf, and encouraging the faster to take the MK I or II.

Surely the first one it's better for dueling, but at the same time I've never had the chance to race with that I consider the harder car to drive of P&G. Another good alternative could be an L88 challenge between coupè and roadster.

Please don't make an Austin Healey single!!!

P.S. Why for the last race we don't have a 60 mins race?!?!

That's all! Cu :)




Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Tim Robey on November 20, 2009, 02:32:16 PM +0000
My suggestion as a driver, would be to use some of the slower cars that were not included in our Clubmans series range.


That sounds a great idea! Count me in!!!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 20, 2009, 03:51:48 PM +0000
911! 911! 911!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on November 20, 2009, 03:55:32 PM +0000
This is a non-token event?
911! 911! 911!
Wont you two both be UKiR'ing? ???


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Paul968 on November 20, 2009, 04:10:39 PM +0000
or is that iSou'ing?  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 20, 2009, 04:13:29 PM +0000

Pfft some welcome that is  ;) That will be an iR night with content this tight wad will not pay for just yet so you may be stuck with me, as long as its not a mini vs abarth race at Spa (!) that is.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 20, 2009, 04:58:50 PM +0000

Probably. :P


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: BillThomas on November 20, 2009, 05:49:59 PM +0000
I go with Clive.  :thumbup1:

Bill


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mark J on November 20, 2009, 05:58:27 PM +0000
Slow cars at Spa? are you mental ?  :sleep1:  Spa is made for the bad boys.

I would have thought a better use of it is as a pre-Le Mans warm up, like the real boys do with Sebring etc. We all take the cars we are intending to use at LM thereby gaining some valuable learning time with the cars intricasies and seat time. Some of the brutes on offer for LM are not at all easy to drive so using Spa as a good test bed in race conditions would be very useful.  :)  IMO.





Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Josè Arrogantio on November 20, 2009, 06:16:40 PM +0000
Gulf
Please
 :angel:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: pribeiro on November 20, 2009, 06:31:41 PM +0000

Please don't make an Austin Healey single!!!


Now that's an excellent idea. A cup with the less chosable car.  :D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on November 20, 2009, 06:36:27 PM +0000
When did they actually start doing Porsche Cup races at Spa?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 20, 2009, 07:44:13 PM +0000
Alfa Volumetric spec race and random rainy bits


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: LigelC on November 20, 2009, 08:36:11 PM +0000

Pfft some welcome that is  ;) That will be an iR night with content this tight wad will not pay for just yet so you may be stuck with me, as long as its not a mini vs abarth race at Spa (!) that is.


Legzy : you can't talk to a Cornishman like that so watch it or we'll send round the "GREEN ARMY"  - Remember the Trelawny Spirit    :fencing:    :2guns:

As far as the race is concerned anything reasonably quick, with rain but stick to the original 40 mins for the race please

Laurie


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: pribeiro on November 21, 2009, 11:25:58 AM +0000
Don't tell what kind of cars we 're gonna use. Say it just 5 minutes before server's up.
Surprise car's race.  8)  In this way, we will see who addapts better with no practice.  :devil:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: BillThomas on November 21, 2009, 12:14:06 PM +0000
Don't tell what kind of cars we 're gonna use. Say it just 5 minutes before server's up.
Surprise car's race.  8)  In this way, we will see who addapts better with no practice.  :devil:

No thought for us 71 year olds  :no: :nono: - takes a long time to work out different braking points etc.  ::) ??? :-\ :'(  I'm still struggling to sort out the Christmas version of Le Mans - Thursday's race didn't help one bit.  :eek:  :sweatdrop:

Bill


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Paul968 on November 21, 2009, 12:18:01 PM +0000
He clearly sees you as a threat Bill ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: pribeiro on November 21, 2009, 12:20:21 PM +0000
Alright, they can tell only to the members with more than 70 y.o.  ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on November 21, 2009, 02:14:29 PM +0000
If you're unable to join the server... make sure you have also got the Christmas Le Mans Track (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_lmsarthe77) installed, as the server is currently running both on rotation. Once you're on the server, if it's not the track you want 'vote for the next event' ;).


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: pribeiro on November 21, 2009, 02:24:03 PM +0000
Look what I have just found.
http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=23791

 :D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mike Miller on November 21, 2009, 04:17:30 PM +0000
I'd like to do a spec 911 IROC race. Those cars require a hair chest to drive.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mark J on November 21, 2009, 05:22:00 PM +0000
I'd like to do a spec 911 IROC race. Those cars require a hair chest to drive.

You and me both Mike  8)...and i've got a hairy chest  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on November 21, 2009, 10:49:55 PM +0000
I go with Clive.  :thumbup1:

Bill

Look as though we are doomed Bill.

They are going to debate it until the scrutineer is stood over them.

I believe there are 104 cars to pick from.  We'd better get started practicing all of them.  You never know, we might get lucky.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on November 22, 2009, 01:05:43 AM +0000
Right, I've just done a bit of testing & come to a decision.
The two popular choices for this race were either to use:
1) The old GR2 cars (the slow ones we've hardly used)
2) The very quick cars (as a bit of a car familiarisation session for the Christmas Le Mans event  (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6690.msg116117#msg116117) + the 911's as they slot in timings wise with that group)

Extra info - The fun race we'll be doing in a fortnight after this Spa one is going to be at Donington National.

So I've decided that Spa will use all the fast cars (GT40's, 906's, Cobra 427, L88's & anything you're planning to drive for the Christmas event PLUS the 911's) & that Donington will use the older GR2 class cars that were not used in our Clubmans season (Jag Mk2's, Ford Cortina, Abarth etc).

Seemed the sensible way to go. With regards weather, I'll try my best to do my "mostly dry but heavy shower in the middle of the race before clearing up again" rain-dance for the Spa event. ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: LigelC on November 22, 2009, 08:36:08 AM +0000
Right, I've just done a bit of testing & come to a decision.
Extra info - The fun race we'll be doing in a fortnight after this Spa one is going to be at Donington National.
So I've decided that Spa will use all the fast cars (GT40's, 906's, Cobra 427, L88's & anything you're planning to drive for the Christmas event PLUS the 911's) & that Donington will use the older GR2 class cars that were not used in our Clubmans season (Jag Mk2's, Ford Cortina, Abarth etc).

Great Legzy - now you're ' cooking with gas'    :jumpjoy:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on November 22, 2009, 08:39:15 AM +0000
Thanks Legzy.

That must be one hell of a dance!  Don't put your back out.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mark J on November 22, 2009, 09:06:45 AM +0000
Nice one Legz, good call  :)

Now a tough decision...do i use my LM GT40 or a 911 at the mecca that is Spa ? :-\  Either way, its a mouthwatering prospect 8)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mike Miller on November 22, 2009, 03:05:01 PM +0000
I'll get eaten alive, but I'll drive my L88 in preperation for the Christmas special.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mark J on November 24, 2009, 08:59:41 PM +0000
did my first recon laps this eve in the GT40 Mk2 here. Jeez its like wrestling a gorilla whilst wearing roller skates ! :P 
Spa makes a great test track for Le Mans (and the laps are shorter!) but its hard going in this car.

Still messing with springs and settings but 2:44.02 is my early best. Its going to take a lot of laps to get the hang of this beast. No idea where that laptime stands here as nothing to compare against  ???

What would be useful, would be if one of our illustrious faster drivers (Paul etc) could do some laps here and LM and post a benchmark time to aim for/demoralise us with  :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Paul968 on November 25, 2009, 09:37:56 AM +0000
I won't be racing Mark so I wasn't really going to practice I'm afraid. The GT40 Mk 2 is a grumpy old beast at the best of times, so I can't say I would lap in it for fun!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mark J on November 25, 2009, 07:35:29 PM +0000
thats a shame you cant make it Paul.

If you do get bored one day and fancy the challenge of wrestling said grumpy beast around the track, let us know your laptimes  ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: BillThomas on November 26, 2009, 12:11:04 PM +0000
I go with Clive.  :thumbup1:

Bill

Look as though we are doomed Bill.

They are going to debate it until the scrutineer is stood over them.

I believe there are 104 cars to pick from.  We'd better get started practicing all of them.  You never know, we might get lucky.

Going with my new choice of Le Mans car - E Type Coupe.

Just found out tonight's GTL details.   :nono: :thumbdown:

Bill


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: mr_oily on November 28, 2009, 12:18:19 AM +0000
Only just clocked this one!! Nice combination, better get practising - been a while since I've driven one of these in anger!!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on November 28, 2009, 09:07:55 AM +0000
My grumpy beast is currently at 2:46 and I expect that the next few seconds are lurking in the last two turns before the bus stop and the poxy bus stop itself.

Might try dropping the ratios another notch as well.  It really only steers properly when its in 1st gear.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Steve Holmes on November 28, 2009, 12:13:25 PM +0000
Was going to try this depending on server numbers.

What's the story with online setups now?  Do they not work?  Was hoping to take advantage of another's hard work on the setup!

Tried the Cobra 427 with default and my attempt at a setup and I can't drive or set it up at all, a mistake-ridden 2:51.8!  I take it this thing isn't easy to tame in P&G?

Maybe time for a Corvette.

EDIt: Corvette's much nicer, actually driveable.  47s after a quick try. Any pointers to setups would be good though.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Ade on November 28, 2009, 03:07:26 PM +0000
The 500 hp 427 is a bit harder to drive so try on of the 490hp ones, All i did with it when i took it last time was stiffen the front and softened the rear, ill post you a setup i used for interlagos.

                                                      


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Steve Holmes on November 28, 2009, 03:33:38 PM +0000
Thanks Ade, that would be great, just to compare the kind of adjustments you've made to what I tried.  I'd forgotten P&G has so many variations, I have no idea of the bhp of the Cobra I took. :D

I think I will stick with the L88 though, I seem to have found a reasonable setup, 45 dead with race fuel and fair bit of time to be gained judging by split times.  I'm still very inconsistent but the car feels quite nice.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mark J on November 28, 2009, 06:36:30 PM +0000
good to see you may be joining us Steve 8)

I'm still on 44 in either the GT40 mK2 , or the 906 and not had a chance for further praccy.  :(


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ross.mcw on November 28, 2009, 08:11:05 PM +0000
Hi guys,

I've been MIA for a few months due to a bike trip followed by new baby (my sim rig was in the new baby's room).  Anyhow, settled down a bit now and the rig's moved downstairs so I'm going to try and get back in the saddle.

Any problems if I join in this one?  I won't be on the pace but I need to start again at some point ;)

Cheers, Ross.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 28, 2009, 08:23:25 PM +0000
Blimey. it's ROSS  :o

Welcome back mate. Please try to get online and lets sort out any probs early please


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ross.mcw on November 28, 2009, 08:57:42 PM +0000
Thankyou Tony ;)

2m.41s in the GT40 for me so far after a few laps this evening on the default set-up which feels okayish in a 'where's the turn-in' kind of way.  911 IROC feels nicer to drive, but seems to be quite a bit slower.  427's a bitch as far as I can tell.

Anyone have any links to decent set-ups for the GT40 or IROC?

Cheers, Ross.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Ade on November 29, 2009, 11:05:51 AM +0000
Just had a few laps in the 427  :o 2:45.8 at the mo, just gotta get the beast through Eau Rouge in some sort of conttroleble fashion and i should be good to go :D hope it doesnt rain.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mike Miller on November 29, 2009, 03:31:27 PM +0000
I looked up fast laps in my profile. Are those offline/online or both?

Porsche 901/6 - 2:43.1
Cobra 427 - 2:44.2
L88 - 2:45.6


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Ade on November 29, 2009, 04:12:45 PM +0000
Online for me.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ross.mcw on November 29, 2009, 07:22:40 PM +0000
Offline for me.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on November 30, 2009, 12:57:36 PM +0000
Er....both I think.


Have managed a 2:45.6xx now but a bit baffled about the next five seconds that are apparently required.

Can't make up my mind on the gear ratio.  Mark was recommending the lowest final drive ratio but that leaves the poor beast bouncing off the rev limiter on the way to Les Combes?

I've watched POODLEKeith and think that he is probably using the lowest ratio as well but can't see where the time difference is lurking.  I'm probably taking too much speed off before turning in because I don't think it will.   :eek:



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Tim Robey on November 30, 2009, 01:31:28 PM +0000

I took a couple of cars out for a spin last night, and after wrestling the GT40 Gulf round for a 2:45, I took the 911 RSR out and was pleasantly surprised with how much fun it is to drive, best last 2:48.7 but I'll work on it again tonight.


Have managed a 2:45.6xx now but a bit baffled about the next five seconds that are apparently required.


Clive, if you don't find the next 5 seconds you can always keep me company at the back  :D



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on November 30, 2009, 01:53:11 PM +0000
Weather: A typical British summers day (i.e. A dry start likely to be followed by a heavy downpour before easing off again)
Just thought I'd give everyone a quick reminder, that I've started my warm up routine for the big rain dance. Expect to see some rain in the middle of this race sometime. Worth a few wet practice laps to see the difference in grip.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on November 30, 2009, 02:37:31 PM +0000

I took a couple of cars out for a spin last night, and after wrestling the GT40 Gulf round for a 2:45, I took the 911 RSR out and was pleasantly surprised with how much fun it is to drive, best last 2:48.7 but I'll work on it again tonight.


Have managed a 2:45.6xx now but a bit baffled about the next five seconds that are apparently required.


Clive, if you don't find the next 5 seconds you can always keep me company at the back  :D



OK Tim

But if Legzy’s rain dance works you will have to bring your own brolly!

I’ve subjected PK’s lap to a stopwatch analysis and can identify that it is Rivage and the LH after it that is where I take the biggest hit.  Apart from that Eau Rouge, Fagnes and Stavelot and Blanchemont combined don’t do me any favours either.  I actually took 0.04 out of him at Les Combes and he returned the favour at Pouhon.

At least I know where to look now.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: mr_oily on November 30, 2009, 02:45:39 PM +0000
Yes good job you narrowed it down a bit Clive  :lol:.

I'm extremely impressed with your dedication to actually get the stopwatch out - I too am running on what feels like a knife edge in that thing and wondering how the hell Keith is permanently sat on my rear bumper lol. Does everyone else's Mk2 buck like a bronco between gear changes!? I think the tuning was done by the same company that built that Stratos from last night's Top Gear.  ;D

I shall take a look at Rivage but I imagine it's unfortunately just practice and more practice as usual.

I'll see you there Tim ;). I'll be the one getting a tank slapper on through Eau Rouge. Seems to be my line these days lol.





Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Manteos on November 30, 2009, 02:48:44 PM +0000
I really enjoyed in the first laps with the GT40 MKII!!! After 6-7 laps I managed a 2.42.8, but I surely can go down a bit...
I think that reading previous Legzy's post, I'll have to try this Monster car on the wet, to see if it's possible to bring it to the end... I am a bit confused about this thing... If it rains I'll say a lot of prays to Saint Brembo... the holy protector of braking ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: mr_oily on November 30, 2009, 02:53:23 PM +0000
Always a joy to hear from you Manteos  :'(

Even in the dry, I for one shall be praying to the God of KERS in the hope he bestows such functionality upon my Ford.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on November 30, 2009, 03:24:50 PM +0000
Does everyone else's Mk2 buck like a bronco between gear changes!?


Actually, what gets me it that they seem to have designed a five speed box and then forgotten to put the cogs in for second!!!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mark J on November 30, 2009, 06:20:52 PM +0000
blimey 2:41's and 2:42's being found in the Mk2 ?  :( i cant break out of the 44's in it despite trying various spring and diff combo's. It understeers like a barge.

Got any Italian trade secrets on that Mk2 setup Manteos ?  ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Manteos on November 30, 2009, 08:12:28 PM +0000
I uploaded my setup on humyo, give it a try :)

http://www.humyo.com/F/9469759-2153008797 (http://www.humyo.com/F/9469759-2153008797)

Understeer is a big trouble with this car, I used to go slowly inside the corner with the beast, using a slower coast to let the front going inside the corner, and trying to cause a bit of oversteer and drifting a bit to exit the corner quickly. I will be on the server for some practice at 10 pm, hope to see someone of you :)
 


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ross.mcw on November 30, 2009, 09:40:44 PM +0000
blimey 2:41's and 2:42's being found in the Mk2 ?  :( i cant break out of the 44's in it despite trying various spring and diff combo's. It understeers like a barge.

Got any Italian trade secrets on that Mk2 setup Manteos ?  ;)

Woops - just realised mine were in the mk1 not 2.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 30, 2009, 11:45:18 PM +0000
Its been an age since I've driven the big beasties and had to be dragged away from the wheel tonight  ;) Should be a blast.

Couldn't resist trying many a car and I finally got a ridiculous 34 in about 3 laps in the Gulf. Right, Gulf it is  ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 01, 2009, 07:41:35 AM +0000

Couldn't resist trying many a car and I finally got a ridiculous 34 in about 3 laps in the Gulf. Right, Gulf it is  ;)


That’s totally incomprehensible!


Don’t think I will even bother turning up.


I suppose that was in the dark and rain just for good measure? :(


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ginsters sponsored on December 01, 2009, 08:35:41 AM +0000
And deep breaths and relax now Clive :) I was surprised just exactly how much quicker the Gulf was so mentioned it, that is all. I'll wait to see how many arrive and, if there's room, gonna be Cobra or RSR for me.

Gotta say, no matter what system you use, I'd like to see these car choices more often  :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 01, 2009, 09:02:11 AM +0000
LOL

Well whatever it is I hope it really sucks when the Legzy'z rain dance kicks in.  ;D


I did see a 2:39.xxx in a MkII on the server last night and thought that was impressive.

I've moved all the setup parameters about and can feel hardly any change in the MkII.  Power diff is currently 100% which is totally at odds to Manteos' setup as posted which from memory is about 30%.  I give in.

100% feels ok to me so I'll stick with it.  The other side of the diff is at 10%, I think, and it still won't turn.

No matter what I do with the setup I will not get any quicker until my brain accepts that these beasts will actually corner faster than I think they will.  I throw away all my speed and then, at places like Les Combes, you are stuck with it through three corners.  Very frustrating!!!!!!

I'll get back to the deep breathing.



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: phspok on December 01, 2009, 10:12:13 AM +0000
Did some setup playin last night after MJ saying he couldn't get it to turn in.
Didn't get a really good setup, but It sounds like I was going the same way as Manteos.
I set PowerDiff=20 Coast Diff=50, had to make the front down a bit harder than rear up (dampers)
to stop the back coming round on corner entry, brake bias was 54 front, and still locking fronts slightly
which kills turn in under braking of course. I have long been at odds with other views on diff settings
if it's power on oversteer, then set power differ much lower - like start at 10 and see how much you can run
before it becomes whippy. coast diff = understeer. I run with the least amount of coast I can get away with
Only cars that need 50 or more are Multi coloured pigs and similar. Using coast to reduce oversteer is not
IMHO the best way to do it. Lots of power diff will initially make the front want to go straight under power
but as soon as there is any slip then more will make it more difficult to handle, less will just spin the inside wheel
and not provoke such a violent slide.
Ok, here endeth the lesson dearly beloved.  :D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 01, 2009, 01:38:19 PM +0000
Thanks to Manteos for his setup.

that's got me to 43.5 but I cant break 3min in the wet, although it's lots of fun trying!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: LigelC on December 01, 2009, 01:40:08 PM +0000
Tonight looks like being very popular with some well know names putting in a welcome reappearance (me ansum)
The recent spate of 'bugs' in the Derby area and very cold spell has triggered a unwelcome reaction with my lung complaint which has laid me out since Wednesday afternoon battleing for breath.  I don't tell you this for any 'sympathy' reasons (I firmly believe in playing the hand you have been delt by life and getting as much out of it as posible).  I feel much better today and plan to join tonights race - however, as I don't know if I'll last out for the full race and not wanting to take up a slot on the grid that someone else could use I will delay joining until 10 minutes before the race starts. Leading up to the start should Legzy or Tony become aware of someone who cannot join please let me know and I'll pull out.

Laurie  :scooter:



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: mr_oily on December 01, 2009, 01:48:00 PM +0000
Damn you Clive, that's a second better than I'm managing, I was relying on you for company :)

Sorry to hear that Laurie, doesn't sound like much fun but if you're up to it I don't see why you should miss out on practice - get yourself in there, if there are problems we'll soon know about it via the forum or TS.

This clashes with an iRace don't forget so should be fine on numbers.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on December 01, 2009, 01:51:28 PM +0000
however, as I don't know if I'll last out for the full race and not wanting to take up a slot on the grid that someone else could use I will delay joining until 10 minutes before the race starts.
Thanks Ligel, but just get yourself online as soon as you're ready mate.
With a few Prodigy cars likely to be on the grid, nobody can be certain of lasting the full race :P ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Tim Robey on December 01, 2009, 03:07:58 PM +0000
however, as I don't know if I'll last out for the full race and not wanting to take up a slot on the grid that someone else could use I will delay joining until 10 minutes before the race starts.

Laurie, don't worry about taking a grid spot, there are plenty of pitstalls at Spa. Hope you can make it!

Damn you Clive, that's a second better than I'm managing, I was relying on you for company :)

Oily, you can keep me company & show me your new line thorugh Eau Rouge  ;)

I managed to get the RSR down to 1:45.7 in the night-time praccy session last night, I didn't realise the bus-stop was different to the 2004 version and had a few hairy moments, until I twigged!  ::)

I tried a few offline laps in the wet, got a best of 3:01 in 50% rain.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 01, 2009, 05:33:13 PM +0000
No need to worry about me Tim or Oily, I still feel like a fish out of water in these things and get easily "put off" by the attentions of other drivers.

Look for me in your mirrors or climbing out of the sand.  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 01, 2009, 08:16:15 PM +0000
Room for a little Ligel


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 01, 2009, 08:52:30 PM +0000
Superb! Booted three times by the ever flakey GTR2 ****ware, the final time just as the join grid for start countdown started.  >:(

Don't get that grief with GTL  :angel:

EDIT: Don't suppose this helped, from my ISP

"NEW - Tuesday 1st Dec 2009 - 8:26pm
Engineers are investigating a possible network issue, causing a loss of service - further updates will be posted shortly."


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mark J on December 01, 2009, 08:56:24 PM +0000
gutted was really looking forward to a P&G race here but for some reason my connection kept dropping every few minutes. >:( Never managed a single timed lap due to discos throughout the practise and qual sessions

edit: just phoned the ISP and got told they had a major server foobar...just my bloody luck on P&G racing night :'(

hope you all had a good un...sobs into beer glass.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Steve Holmes on December 01, 2009, 09:19:06 PM +0000
Oh dear, bad luck you guys.  :(

Rain did for me, no wet practice meant just couldn't find the limit in the Corvette.

Well, gave it another go, but I'm still fairly lukewarm about the chuckability of these P&G cars, to me they just ain't.  Something wrong when my road car is easily controllable in a four wheel drift entering a corner (mostly on a track I might add) but these so-called drift-tastic old cars aren't.  ???  Everything's good about P&G except the tyre grip characteristics. 

Oh, and the too-many versions of cars, wasted one practice driving an L88 unknowingly with different tyres and wondering what had gone wrong with the setup.  :P


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ross.mcw on December 01, 2009, 09:39:43 PM +0000
Yay, 2nd place!!!

Boo, dq'd after the finish for going backwards.

Well done Jose, couldn't match your pace at all.

Loved the rain even if it was a bit sudden when it came and went.

Nice to be back ;)

Cheers, Ross.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on December 01, 2009, 09:46:00 PM +0000
Loved the rain even if it was a bit sudden when it came and went.
Looks like my rain dance is still a little rough round the edges then ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ginsters sponsored on December 01, 2009, 09:46:25 PM +0000
You gents should have gone to Tiscali  :clown: Seriously, thats a bugger cause that was seriously good.

Got some serious pace outta the Cobra by dialing out some of the oversteer (thanks for the tip mike). First few laps ware bedlam as ruddy GT40's flew past and 906's battered me through corners. I say bedlam but driving standards were excellent, including one unfortunate 906 who took to the wall rather than hit me. Honestly, that was as fast as it would go through there  :'( Then the rain came. Gawd I was cursing the idjut who decided the rain would be a good idea as he clearly never tested in a Cobra (nor did I ;D). The car returned to its massively oversteery best and Mike cruised past brilliantly in the wet. Then it dried and we were evenly matched going through traffic, brilliant fun. Got close to him through chicane and did him around outside into bus stop. A brilliant pass if I say so myself  ;) He wasn't gonna give it up easily and side to side stuff continued for half a lap with plenty of room given but I was lucky enough to sneak home in end. Cheers, that was top drawer Mike  :notworthy:  

Gotta admit that changing conditions made for a great race, kudos to the man who thought of that.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: goldtop on December 01, 2009, 09:47:02 PM +0000
Great fun tonight :)

Classic agility v grunt battle in the 906 with the heavy metal boys and when the rain came the odds turned in my favour. I got a little too excited at the top of Les Coombes and went lawnmowing for a while, but soon made up time to Ian and Mike when the rain starting coming down heavier.

Was still closing in when I came across a spinning Laurie on the approach to the Bus Stop. Had nowhere to go and ploughed straight into him effectively ending my race and his :(  Not your fault mate, I know you'd been collected just before I got there so just one of those things.

Really looking forward to LM and then the new PnG season, whichever form it takes. I know we have another PnG fun race planned for Doni, but any chance of squeezing in another LM test before the big day?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 01, 2009, 09:51:50 PM +0000
Replay and results posted

Don't forget that you still have time to vote for a revisited event for GTL Enduro HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7135.0)

and a revisited event for P&G HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7117.0)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ross.mcw on December 01, 2009, 10:02:33 PM +0000
Arggh, do I really lose out on the 2nd because if the post race dq? :(

Serves me right for celebrating too much!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Tim Robey on December 01, 2009, 10:06:33 PM +0000

A race of 2 halves for me....

The first half of the race was lots of fun, racing Clives & Oily's GT40s, Pribeiro's 914, dodging spinning cars in Blanchemont and trying not to rear end those GT40s as they held me up in the twisty bits but blasted by on the straights.

Then it started raining....  :(

And suddenly my 911 was handling like a wild, untamed beast, understeering on corner entry and lots of oversteer on exit.  I soon lost 20-30s a lap, leaving me on my own. The handling improved as the track dried but there were plenty of wet patches.

Maybe I should have thought about that wet setup  ::)



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 01, 2009, 10:15:37 PM +0000
Arggh, do I really lose out on the 2nd because if the post race dq? :(

Serves me right for celebrating too much!
Yes. Drivers are again politely reminded to not drive into Oily (or Oily substitute) until way past the finish line or you do risk a DQ.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on December 01, 2009, 10:27:32 PM +0000
Arggh, do I really lose out on the 2nd because if the post race dq? :(

Serves me right for celebrating too much!
lol, unless Tony fancies it... I'll check it out tomorrow & if I'm certain of the correct position for you, I'll amend :).

(feel free not to do it again :P ;))


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ross.mcw on December 01, 2009, 10:30:44 PM +0000
Thanks Legz. Sorry for any hassle caused.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 01, 2009, 10:37:13 PM +0000
Grats to the podium, both versions.

I was mugged at the start again.  You blokes don't mess about do you?!

Quietly chuffed at bringing the first Mk2 home, but I was having to fight to keep clear of Paulo in his shopping car, especially in the wet!

In the end I think he ran out of body parts to be flung in the sand.  Great fun.  

Don't bother with the rain dance for Le Mans Legzy.  I didn't think the rain was so sudden as I had spotted the dark clouds gathering on the lap before.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mark J on December 01, 2009, 10:57:18 PM +0000
painful reading what a good race everyone had  :'(

are there any Gulf GT40's allowed at Le Mans? i think it should be veto'd for balance reasons, as clearly several seconds a lap faster than anything else on track. I can slaughter my own laptimes compared to the normal Mk2.
Upto the powers that be naturally  :-*


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 01, 2009, 11:26:32 PM +0000
LOL  fat chance MJ.

I think one of the said powers has his bum in one of them.  ::)

Anyway.  Spa doesn't have the Mulsane Straight where the MkII is kinda good!   ;D

I'm no expert on GT40s but doesnt the MkI have a smaller engine?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mike Miller on December 01, 2009, 11:53:08 PM +0000
I had a cracker of a battle with Ian. What a great race. The wet conditions were a real treat and are much appreciated.

I wrung every ounce out of the vette in quali. The track was clearly faster in quali than practice. It appeared like the lines started to rubber in. Still, Ian was quite a bit quicker in his 427 Cobra.

At the start of the race, I was a bit nervous because the skies were blue. I had a setup that favored wet conditions so I thought I would have a tough time at the beginning. My expectations were correct. I lept off the line from 4th to 2nd by time we hit Eau Rouge, but had cold tires and brakes at the end of Camel so I went a bit wide. I went wide again at Le Comb and ended up around 6th or 8th. It took 2 laps for everything to warm up. I put my head down and set off after Ian. Fortunately, the L88 has a demon motor and was able to gobble up the 906's down the straights. 57GoldTop and I traded places a few times while Ian ran away.

When the rains came (surpised at the suddenness) my car came alive. 57GoldTop and I quickly caught up Ian who was obviously struggling with the wet. His car was setup for the dry where mine was set for wet. 57GoldTop had a moment and went off leaving me to battle Ian. As Ian said earlier, I easily went past, but didn't pull much of a gap. I backed off fearing to throw it away foolishly. Turns out, I needed to build a gap because the sun came out again. He and I both gave up a bit of time to traffic. He caught a Jag at an inoportune time and I stared face to face with a blue cobra pointing the wrong way at the start finish. In the end, the adversity didn't make a difference. He was clearly faster at the end of the race and pulled a 2 second gap giving him the Group3 win. I'll have more for you at Lemans with my aero advantage.

I am easily 3 seconds a lap faster in the GT40 Gulf vs the GT40 MkII at Lemans. The 5 speed gearbox, handling and brakes make up for the blistering pace of the MkII down the straights. Still, with the wet, everything changes.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Mike Miller on December 01, 2009, 11:55:53 PM +0000
Oh.. Ian's pass at the Bus Stop was brilliant. I wasn't expecting it.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: pribeiro on December 02, 2009, 10:06:10 AM +0000
Superb fun and race.

Nice battle with Clive and Tim.
I was faster at all corners but lose time on the straights.
When began to rain, I was happy as I was doing almost the very same times as in the dry track.  ;D
During the rain I was gaining time to all the V8s, but when I was fighting for Clive's position,
Bill (i believe) lost it and spun into the midle of the track, after an evasive move to avoid
the E-type, I spun also and hit the wall, even with a steering damage I've been able to finish.

The rain adds a more challenge driving, if GTR2 has this feature, why not use it more?
In real life it rains aswell.  :)

Congrats to podium and to all finishers.

Cheers


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: mr_oily on December 02, 2009, 12:52:59 PM +0000
Brilliant fun...while it lasted. To be honest I felt like a liability from the moment I set wheel on the track but after shoving the brake bias back on the setup Manteos kindly shared, the Mk2 started to feel driveable for me. Got it down to a 42 in practice so was hopeful for qually but to cut a long story short, I did bad.  >:(

Started 9th and had to chuckle as I blasted right through the middle of two Cobras or 906's (white ones!) with barely an inch to spare on either side, I was already preparing my excuse for the moderator's report when it became apparent I hadnt caused a pile-up, I'd made it through to Eau Rouge ahead! With silly amounts of grunt and no handling, I managed to go from 9th to 3rd by Les Combes, playing wingman briefly to the returning McWilliam - much to the frustration I imagine of the people behind  ;D.

Pippo got past me pretty quickly and then it was a case of getting in Ian's way for a few laps while trying to keep it on the black stuff. He pulled a couple of lovely moves, one in particularity into La Source was nice and decisive while I did a crap job on the brakes.

Somehow managed to hold 4th until I made a completely stupid and unforced error dropping the front wheel of my boat onto the grass and losing shedloads of time. Met up with Mr. Robey at La Source, showed him my lovely line through Eau Rouge, sideways as promised ;) and then whacked the barrier towards the end of the lap. As the rain came I was headed for repairs. Unfortunately my pit crew had other ideas and just refused to service me, anyone got any ideas there? Do I have to call them or something?

Anyway a brilliant finish for Ross and grats to the other podium people. Pretty gutted to finish early but loved the laps I did get and can't wait for the next PnG event to put it right.

I'm with GT on the practice for Le Mans thing - think I may have bitten off more than I can chew there...Tony, I'd like to swap to the Mini so i can at least maximise beer time on the Mulsanne  ;D



Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Legzy on December 02, 2009, 01:41:54 PM +0000
Thanks Legz. Sorry for any hassle caused.
Yup, no question you finished 2nd & result now corrected.
 


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ross.mcw on December 02, 2009, 01:48:01 PM +0000
Thanks Legzy - much appreciated and apologies again for having caused my own post race DQ - I really didn't know that would happen, but have learnt my lesson!

Anyhow, hurrah, look at me I'm great!  ;)  Although, to be fair the Gulf GT was insanely over competitive really, even in the wet.  Great first race back after my extended absence though.

How about a single make Gulf GT race at P&G Spa race in the dark in a full on rain storm?  Riders in the Storm playing in the background throughout would have to be a requirement for entry...


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: pribeiro on December 02, 2009, 04:44:21 PM +0000

  Unfortunately my pit crew had other ideas and just refused to service me, anyone got any ideas there? Do I have to call them or something?


Indeed mate. In GTR2, we have to assign a key to let the pit crew know we are going to pits.
When we hit it, we hear the pit crew boss receiving our request and a bit later we hear his voice
telling that the pit crew is ready.  8)
I believe the key in menu is: 'pit request'. That add a bit more realistic feeling.  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: BillThomas on December 02, 2009, 05:53:27 PM +0000
Superb fun and race.

Bill (i believe) lost it and spun into the midle of the track, after an evasive move to avoid
the E-type, I spun also and hit the wall, even with a steering damage I've been able to finish.


Cheers

Sorry about that PR, I had difficulty in trying to gauge where to try and let you both through.  As I know I'm slow through Eau Rouge (?) I lifted and tried to move off line but the effect was to lose control and hit the wall and bounce back into your path.  Sorry again for that.

Had a bit of a battle with Laurie and Bully and was slowly drawing away when it started to rain.  Thanks Tibs for trying to keep out of my way and not interfer with my race but I found it distracting with you in my mirror. (Please don't take this as a criticism - I'd have done exactly the same in your position.)  The result was with the rain and loss of momentum my lead over the next car back was halved and I just couldn't get back into the "grove" and Bully passed me (he was always faster than me anyway) then I lost it as above and from there it just got worse - luckily I was the last on the track by then anyway.

Bill


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: pribeiro on December 02, 2009, 07:23:42 PM +0000
Superb fun and race.

Bill (i believe) lost it and spun into the midle of the track, after an evasive move to avoid
the E-type, I spun also and hit the wall, even with a steering damage I've been able to finish.


Cheers

Sorry about that PR, I had difficulty in trying to gauge where to try and let you both through.  As I know I'm slow through Eau Rouge (?) I lifted and tried to move off line but the effect was to lose control and hit the wall and bounce back into your path.  Sorry again for that.
 

No problem Bill, was a race incident.  :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on December 02, 2009, 07:25:42 PM +0000

  Unfortunately my pit crew had other ideas and just refused to service me, anyone got any ideas there? Do I have to call them or something?


Indeed mate. In GTR2, we have to assign a key to let the pit crew know we are going to pits.
When we hit it, we hear the pit crew boss receiving our request and a bit later we hear his voice
telling that the pit crew is ready.  8)
I believe the key in menu is: 'pit request'. That add a bit more realistic feeling.  ;D
I don't know what exotic cigs you smoke Pribsy but I don't hear voices :D

I do get a ping noise when I press my Pit wakey wakey button and a little later a blue pit light appears on the dashboard. Best to iron this out before LM Oily. You may need the occasional pit stop to refresh your Banana Daiquiri.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: pribeiro on December 02, 2009, 11:05:02 PM +0000

  Unfortunately my pit crew had other ideas and just refused to service me, anyone got any ideas there? Do I have to call them or something?


Indeed mate. In GTR2, we have to assign a key to let the pit crew know we are going to pits.
When we hit it, we hear the pit crew boss receiving our request and a bit later we hear his voice
telling that the pit crew is ready.  8)
I believe the key in menu is: 'pit request'. That add a bit more realistic feeling.  ;D
I don't know what exotic cigs you smoke Pribsy but I don't hear voices :D

I do get a ping noise when I press my Pit wakey wakey button and a little later a blue pit light appears on the dashboard. Best to iron this out before LM Oily. You may need the occasional pit stop to refresh your Banana Daiquiri.

 :-\ LOL ... I hear that pit boss voices at GTR2, not at P&G ...  :lol:
Damn William Lawson's ...........  :drool:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Manteos on December 03, 2009, 01:17:32 AM +0000
I forgot to say something about the race, but it only takes 3 words to describe it: Shame on me!

P.S I hope not to have damaged Clive's race when my car was thrown into the middle of the track by the barriers :(

Cu at the next one :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: Clive Loynes on December 04, 2009, 03:28:01 PM +0000

P.S I hope not to have damaged Clive's race when my car was thrown into the middle of the track by the barriers :(


No problem Manteos.  I think it just meant that I had to use the mighty Mk2 to fight my way past Paulo in his shopping car once more!  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 1 - End of Season - Spa (2003) - Dec 1
Post by: ross.mcw on December 04, 2009, 03:43:21 PM +0000
Any chance of a P&G race round Bathurst?

Cheers, Ross.