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Endurance Championship Division 1 - Season 1, Round 7 at Anderstorp

Date: Sunday 9th October

Practice 1: 8:30pm (30 mins)
Qual 2: 9:00pm (30 mins)
Warmup: 9:30pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:32pm (60 mins)

Cars allowed: Any. (Seat Toledo, Lotus Elise, BMW Z3M and Porsche GT3 Cup will not be eligable for points.)
Weather: Random (via dual-dice throw and sophisticated weather table ;))

Notes:
(1) Please try to arrive at least 15 minutes prior to qualifying, during Practice 1.
(2) Server Password has been emailed to those registered racers for each championship. Please contact a member of the admin team to get the password if you are registered and have forgotten or not received the password. It will not be given out in the GTR chatroom as that is a public place. The password wont change for the season unless there are security concerns.
(3) See  UKGTR Season 1 Info (http://www.ukgtr.org/lm2-report.php?group=1&content=series103) for general Season 1 info.
(4) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (http://www.ukgtr.org/index.php?c=rules)

I'm doing some practice currently on "UKGTR Fozzmeister"

Join if you want to.

Foz

Hi will have a go at the g3 if thats ok.gerald

gettin bad password?help :(

Yep me too.
Don

45 mins of trying now given up.

Check your PMs chaps ;)

Man I had NGT nailed, then 1fps, sux. Leaves in utter dejection.

Stoopid fooking game. 7 mins left, on for the win, 10 secs ahead, no mistakes the whole race, flawless, same as Locutus I got the 1FPS bug, first time i've had it in months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Must be something to do with leading in class.  ;)

There was something iffy with the server all night. When i started it up a few people including me were getting bad track, bad password, bad car and then eventually it would let you in. Wierd.

Roll on network bug free GTL (I bloody well hope). Sooner I can dump GTR for a better game the better. I love driving it to bits but arrgh the infuriation at them not fixing this most bastard of a bug!

Glad i got through my first race fine, i was nervous as hell in qualy and first two laps then settled into a more relaxed rhythm. Was sweating buckets and geting neck cramp towards the end...i'll have to improve my race fitness ;D
Good fun, wish there was more cars on track though, is that the normal turnout for enduro?
Thanks to all who steered me in the right direction, i hope to be a regular competitor and get some more race experience. That race and the weds fun run were my only two in a GT car so still lots to learn but was happy with 6th fastest laptime and final position.

ps do i get points as a reserve driver?

Sorry couldn't make the race, hurt my back Sat. Morning and it is too hard to sit in the driving position for this amount of time.


I've had the 1 FPS bug problem allot this season, it does suck........and for Simbin to not even try to fix it is ridiculous.

Dunno how I ended up 2nd after heavy crash and then being beached for about 20 secs  ;D Was leading with Rich right behind when a BMW must have spun and ended across the track at turn 1. just a bit unlucky really, had nowhere to go and ploughed straight into him. Sorry I couldn't avoid you mate  :( Grats to Rich,Fozz and Greg for thier class wins  8) ZIP are starting to get a nice advantage in the team champ now  ;) Nice one penguins

Pitched my fuel perfectly, except I forgot to allow for the 30 odd bloody secs on full revs trying to get unbeached 4 laps from the end, ran out of fuel with less than a 1/4 of a lap to go :'(

That was particularly low turnout tonight for Div 1 yes. We normally have at least 20 for Div 1.


Yes.

Was OK  in quali(5th)

Race  started  terrible, many  mistakes, sorry truetom for touch, 2nd stint was better, some nice racing with Luis and after sharks  bug I was 3rd, OK.

I had no trouble at all getting in, but during the race I had one episode of "transient disconnect" like what I was getting last weekend. Luckily this time it came back and was stable after that. (I have a new modem/router doohickey and it seems to cope with my 2MB upgrade a lot better. :-\ )

Unfortunately I'd done absolutely no testing with Shark's setup, which was well balanced and very stable under braking (which had been the problem with my setup yesterday), but I couldn't keep the tyre temperatures down and after a very strong showing in the first few laps where I took the G3 lead by force ;) I just couldn't maintain the pace, and eventually went off in turn 1, winding up stuck on the banking. After spending some 40 seconds getting back onto the track (hope I didn't scare anyone too badly being stuck on the outside there!), I just lost focus and went off countless times - Gerald must've wondered what I was playing at, I think he let me back past 3 or 4 times! ::)

Hopefully I'll do better next weekend back in a more familiar NGT car!

No problems whatsoever with the server or with pass. All run just great as usual. I'm indeed a lucky bastard ;D

Many, many mistakes kept me from having a better race. But I'm still testing the 550 :)
Having a nice fight with Blaz when made another T1 spin (I lost the count of how many I deed in that corner). It was a shame as I was having a great fun with Blaz and we could have ended pretty pretty close ;)

Had a good qual, setting a new PB for the BMW.
Struggled initialy in the race, kept being a little inconsistent.  Managed to stay within 4 or 5 secs of Dave until he went off, pitty as we could have had a good battle.
As always with the BMW the front left tyre seems to be a big problem, way over temp.  Had originally planned to do a none stop race but with 10 laps or so to go I had a lead of over 1 min and my first worn tyre warning, decided to play it safe and took a pit stop for tyres only.
Managed to win the class and amazingly didnt spin at all, overall a good nights work. :-)

On paper, I could almost keep up with Locust, but I knew that A) My race-pace was a good 1.5 seconds slowe B), still driving too rough in the NGT to do a 1-stopper.
Locust pulled away at a steady pace and once I settled down, I wa able to pull away from Fozz and had a 24 second lead when I pitted for fuel and tyres...except, I had forgotten which key the starter was mapped to (I don't use autoclutch) and it took me ages to find it (was mapped to 'S' for Starter, doh!).
 I couldnt quite figure out the positions and initially thought I was 20 seconds behind Fozz, but when 'he' spun, it turn out to be Jamera and I had another 47 seconds to catch!. I threw caution to the wind and started pushing every lap and got it down to about ~10 seconds on the last lap. Probably one of the best drives I've ever done, with only a minor off on the last lap.
 I hope for more NGT's next race!..4 participants is barely worth logging on for!

Jakob

I had bad line for first few months. Phoned ISP, they made me do a test for 12 hours or so and cause there were errors they said they'd send BT engineer. I'm on 1mb line with 2mb sync rate.. engineer said changing sync down to 1mb would fix it but first he took a look at box down the street. Said he changed a few things and my line stats improved significantly. So worth doing the test cause there could be a genuine problem with something in the box.

My stats were 55 for attenuation, for 2mb sync it needs 45 ideally. Now i'm on 28 or something rediculous after the engineer visited. Also my noise was 12 ish before and they say you got to be above 10 ideally, now i'm onn 24.:) It's been up and running for over a week without errors or disconnections whereas before I was getting disconnected every day. My router has a log so I can see what's going on.

Hope that helps some.

Good racing in UKGTR, though alot of chaos but what can you expect on a narrow track like Anders. I made two mistakes when all I had to do was sit tight behind Shark, nice fair drivin btw... good to see GT drivers slow right down for nGT. If not for 1fps it was yours for sure. ::) I'm hoping GTL is not so buggy too so we can have some great races and drop GTR imo. My new GFX card is ace, X850XT... got it mostly for GTL.
 

Thanks Picnic.
What a complete knob I'am, was trying the wrong password! Doh! >:(

Lol, I did ask in lobby if you were using the right password  ;D

That explains why it was stuck at 35 despite the fact I was majorly cruising after about 25 mins, and then all of a sudden started going down reasonably quickly. I knew I had time, and loads of it so I slowed down even more :-)

Your pace was wierd at the start too, I was just about keeping up with you at the start, leaking about 0.1 per lap, then all of a sudden you just started going really quick.

Anyway I wasn't prepared for this race at all, had done about 15 mins preperation, total. So I'm very lucky to have the win.

Foz

No problems, Blaz. Things like that happen (I've done Fozz twice  :-[ ). I was too slow last night and even if I didn't spin, I'd be in the same place - 5th is ok for my last nights race pace, but not for a championship - I'm sliding down from 3rd place.  :'( That confirms I'm a better driver than an engineer as I can't setup my car to be really fast. And, of course, there is never enough time to test other setups. Ah, to have that 8 hours I waste at working!  ;D

Btw, we really reached a state where GTs and NGTs can share the same race. Good for us.  :)

On the 1 FPS front, I kick myself for changing anything in the settings. I couldn't believe it would make any difference and I changed it for the Rookies night with total success so I thought it wouldn't be a problem. I changed from ISDN to Cable/ADSL connection type in the internet connection settings in game. I can only guess that's what gave me the 1 fps cause I haven't had it with ISDN selected ever. Especially annoying when you consider I have 2Mb broadband!

There were quite a few NGT regulars missing last night. Picnic, Don, Paul and Glen to name a few.

I may consider changing to NGT next season for Endurance as there are plenty of GTs.

My pace is always crap at the start :). I always try to be super cautious and it takes me awhile to find the limits again. I also think there's a big psychological effect of following/being followed. Often I find I can almost keep up with faster guys until they get a 3-4 second gap and then suddenly they take off (or I drop back). Once I got 3 seconds down to you, the whole thing seemed much easier, despite you weren't really threathening to overtake at anypoint.
I did play around with the idea of not pitting, but tyres would have been marginal.

Jakob

this is no doubt a rookie question, but how come when i pitted, my crew ignore my fuel strategy and fill my tank up to the brim?
I was only one stopping but they stuck 67 litres in my tank with only 18 laps to go. I must admit i just hit 'enter' when the pit menu came up as i thought they would automatically stick to my setup choices.

Regarding the next race, i may well go NGT too as i might have some closer racing. The GT racers are way quicker than me at present and i'm still learning some of the tracks (and cars).
I thought i would be in a Div2 enduro as i presumed div 1 is where the very fast preside?...or am i mistaken, being a rookie? I'm happy to compete in either, just want to make sure i'm not doing anything wrong and am not out of my depth skill wise.

ps where are the results & drivers championship tables posted?

In the setup screen are selections for each pitstop. These values do not default to the fuel amount you put in for the initial stint but to some large value. If you say no pitstops and then have one it still seems to dump loads of fuel in so I tend to set 2 or 3 pitstops with 0 fuel if I don't intend to stop. Means you shouldn't have to deselect the fuel if you have to make a stop then ;)

Hmm, but i had set my set up to make one stop at half race distance and put the appropriate amount of fuel in (ie start with 22 laps of fuel, first stop = 18 laps of fuel), yet it ignored it and filled me up. ???

Hmmm..... That *should* work, that's how I tend to set up my Enduro races and it's always worked as you would expect.

The only time I had a problem is when I hadn't planned to stop and it worked like Picnic described above, that's really good advice.

I'd go back and check the set-up you used just to make absolutely sure it was correct, it's easy to get the wrong set-up when you are quickly changing from your 'qualifying' to your 'race' set-up.


Well, there will almost certainly be NGT spaces available in the Div2 Enduro race at Anderstorp next Sunday, reserves can drive in Div 1 or 2 as they see fit, and that will have the bonus of you knowing the track pretty well :) Hope you can make it.

Pops.

Thanks for replying Pops, i know for sure that i had the stop/fuel set right, made sure after making the mistake of racing with a full tank in the midweek fun race. ::)
But was wondering...do i have to let the pit crew know i'm coming in with the official keyboard button (8 or 9?) even though they've told me i'm running low on fuel and have already got a pre-programmed stop ? Could that be making them think its an un-scheduled stop and therefore filling me up ?

ps i'll do my best to make the div 2 race next week, got the bug for this online competitive (and clean) racing. 8)

Results are here...
https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=3

Interesting question... I always thought not, but there was some suggestion in another thread on these boards that it might make a slight difference but there wasn't a definative agreement on the answer. I've not tried it (letting them know I'm coming in) so "I'm not sure" is the answer!


Sweet! (Sorry if you already know this but) most people take either the 360 or the GT3 in the NGT class so if you are up for a bit of practising you might want to try one of those two. The 360 is generally considered to be slightly easier to drive for an hour.

Pops.

Pops, i guess i'll have to try it next time and see if it makes a difference then report my findings, though if anyone else knows or tries this in the meantime, please let us know.
As for NGT, i have mainly raced a porschecup season so far in GTR so will probably run a Porker as i'm familiar with it, even though the 360's seem a safer beast on the track...makes it more rewarding to beat them ! ;)
To race a GT3, i take it i choose a RS Porsche? as i think i picked a normal 911 in the fun race the other night and it came up as a G3...and was way off the pace of the other NGT's.

ps those NGT legends avatars (signatures) look fantastic.

I was all set to do that in the 90 min Spa race but totally forgot...  ::) ;D


<ahem> You'll get no disagreement from me there! I refuse to comment further before the GT3 v's 360 flame wars erupt again  ;) (kidding!)


Yup - 911 GT3 RS is yer man.


 ;D They are fab! I have PaulW's l33t crayon-monkey skillz to thank ;)

Pops

cheers Pops, i look forward to meeting you on the track and ganging up on those Eyetie horses  ;)

 If they can tear themselves away from sucking up spagehtti that is! ;D

There are several GT3 Porsches - most are GT3 RS and they're NGT, there's also the GT3 Cup which is a G3 class car and is absolutely horrid. :D

Next season I plan to switch to GT, as it may be my last season with GTR before say rF (hoping)

Hi Dave My brakes and tyres were really bad. If I got off line or tried to alter my rythum at all (ie when being lapped the back brakes were locking or if I put bias on the front it took about half a mile to slow down. I think I will try the BMW another time as I had only 5 wing max revs and low gearing but you still pi**ed past me on the straights. anyway it was good fun. Something strange happened with the old scoring as the gap to the car in front varied by up to 1 min per lap.bye for now gerald ps there were a lot of marbles off line?

I think that was more down to me getting really good exits off the corners in comparison - I noticed during the early laps that I was much faster off the last and first turns than Greg too, pity I couldn't keep it on the black stuff. ::)


Yeah, I was getting that too, I think there were some GT and NGT runners going off even more often than me (yes, David Yates, I mean you! :P :D ) and it was confusing the timings.


They were very noticable - I think those long constant radius corners sucker you out there thinking you can let somebody by in the turn and then you find it's a tad slippery. :o