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Title: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: Phil Thornton on November 30, 2009, 12:57:54 AM +0000
Season 18 Novices Trophy - Round 6 - Zandvoort

The sixth race of the season is at Zandvoort.  The track is located in Burgemeester van Alphenstraat in the dunes north of the town of Zandvoort in the Netherlands.  In all 32 grand prix races were held there between 1948 and 1985.  Unfortunately part of the circuit was sold off in the late 1980s to make way for some bungalows and a pie shop overlooking the local nudist beach.  A shortened circuit is still in use today but sadly not by the Formula 1 cars.

Chassis Reallocation:  At the half way stage in the season Al Heller has a healthy lead in the championship with 4 out of 5 wins.  Consequently Al has moved chassis from the BRM to the Brabham BT7.  All other drivers remain in their original chassis.  However, chassis allocation will be under constant review for the rest of the season.

We don't have enough grid slots to accomodate all the full-time and reserve drivers so the reserve drivers should only join if a grid slot is available (usually the case).  Consequently, reserve drivers should not join the race server whilst there is more than 30 mins of qualifying left.  Full time drivers must join the server promptly (before there is only 30 minutes of qualifying left) to be sure of a grid slot.  

Having joined the server, no drivers should go out on track until there is 30 minutes of qualifying left - this helps to ensure all the full-time drivers have joined the server successfully before qualifying begins.

Please restrict chat to "pit in" / "pit out"  messages, and at the end of the race avoid chat until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Please be in the IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password)

Server = update GamesclanT7_2 (please note we are currently using a server kindly provided by Fulvio)
IP Address = 62.149.202.168
Race Date = 01-12-2009
Time = 21:00
Track = Zandvoort
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qually Time = 30 minutes.
Race Length = Long
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=223;theme=6)

Chassis allocations are below, and the same chassis will be used for all races this season unless there is an adjustment agreed by the moderator.  Please note chassis adjustments can be made at any time not just at the mid season review.  Good luck!

FULL TIME DRIVERS
Burtoner - Brabham BT7
G Poole - Brabham BT11
Vosblod - Lotus
Happy Al - Lotus
Maestro - Brabham BT11
Nicky - Cooper
Bookie - Ferrari
Norbert - Ferrari
NHance - BRM
Al Heller - Brabham BT7
Il Lupo - Ferrari
RogUK - BRM
Mark65 - Brabham BT11
Barry De La Rosa - Ferrari
Billy Nobrakes - Brabham BT11
Bernie - Honda
Tussman - Brabham BT11
Roberto Motta - Lotus

RESERVE DRIVERS
Viss - Ferrari
Karliss - Honda
D-Rock - Lotus
Gilles27 - Lotus
Nigel Smith - Lotus

Please use the updated 65 mod for this race.
If you have re-installed UKGPL over the summer break or are joining us for the first time, please don't forget to use the updated 65 mod which is available here: Jamesonline.net/UKGPL (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/1965mod_PATCH_v2.0.2_Setup.zip)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: bernie on December 01, 2009, 07:01:20 PM +0000
here's hoping the server behaves itself for once 



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: vosblod on December 01, 2009, 08:27:45 PM +0000
Posted on both race threads

We are using the Gamesclan server for the Novices race tonight.
I have made some changes to ukgpl6 and would like to run a short test race after the Amateurs finishes. Say Monza, Int-Short, 15 mins qually.
If any of you can hang around for a bit after the main event and help test, it would be much appreciated. Ideally we need more then ten to check it properly.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: Flatspot on December 01, 2009, 11:47:37 PM +0000
Not the best start to my GPL racing career.  Qualifying was OK as I was within a few tenths of my PB, though I think I ought to be able to get under 1:31 with a bit more practice.

Got too close to Maestro going into Tarzan at the start, and tapped him gently from behind, then moments later he'd turned 90 degrees and I tapped him again and my car went somewhat implausibly flying through the air.  I'll try to leave more room next time.  I forgot to do my stop-go penalty too.

On the next lap I hit Billy who was coming back on at Tarzan, and my car flipped.

I failed to settle down into a rhythm and had several offs, particularly pushing too hard at the last corner Pulleveld.  I wasn't sure if I'd done some minor damage to the car bouncing off the barriers as it felt understeery, but it could just have been that I hadn't practiced much with heavier fuel.

Then capped off a bad race by beaching on Tarzan mid-race, and decided to call it quits to avoid taking everyone out as they came through to lap me.

I find I have a lot of difficulty managing the car on warming tyres, as under braking the car feels very loose when the lefts are up to temperature but the rights haven't caught up.  Should I be setting pressures higher?  At the moment I set pressures so I get 25 psi after several laps, but find the car hard to control for the first 3-5 laps until everything's warmed up.

[Edit: Just managed a 1:29.802!  Wish I could have found that sort of speed when it mattered.  Still no consistency though.  Definitely past my bedtime now.]


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: bernie on December 01, 2009, 11:56:13 PM +0000
Posted on both race threads

We are using the Gamesclan server for the Novices race tonight.
I have made some changes to ukgpl6 and would like to run a short test race after the Amateurs finishes. Say Monza, Int-Short, 15 mins qually.
If any of you can hang around for a bit after the main event and help test, it would be much appreciated. Ideally we need more then ten to check it properly.


bowlocks , only just seen this post  :-\


No probs joining gamescan ,got straight in on 1st go so suspect it was lag causing my problems , so sorry I could have tested 6 tonight  ::)




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: vosblod on December 02, 2009, 02:21:11 AM +0000
Well the start lap incident. To be honest when it happened I felt it wasn't my fault and didn't take a SnG.
On looking at the replay I have to say it looks like it was my fault so apologies to Fabio, Al, Rog and anyone else caught up in it.
Not a defence but an explanation - at the start Al got the jump on me and going into Tarzan Fabio had achived overlap. I knew he was on my left and Al right with Rog behind him so was piggy in the middle. I thought if I slow too much going into L1 T1 I might cause a pile up behind so reduced speed slowly to let Fabio through. I didn't reduce enough obviously.
Anyway apologies again - I'm usually extremely carefull.
Rest of race. I'd been really pleased to Q 4th but, after the incident, found myself at the back. I desperately tried to make up ground and it started resulting in stupid mistakes. In the end decided to retire, not my race.


Not the best start to my GPL racing career.  Qualifying was OK as I was within a few tenths of my PB, though I think I ought to be able to get under 1:31 with a bit more practice.
Don't even look up my first online race. You did well and welcome to UKGPL


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: D-Rock on December 02, 2009, 03:42:05 AM +0000
First off, sorry to anyone I may have inadvertently bumped or impeded due to my multiple spins and offs.

Second, this was probably the worst race I've ever had in my 11 years playing racing games. After a couple of rookie mistakes early on I just couldn't get into a rhythm if my life had depended on it.
Of course after falling behind I pushed harder to gain back time, which inevitably led to more spins. This wasn't helped by the fact that my handling got progressively worse as the fuel burned off. By my estimation I lost at least 65-75 seconds due to errors, made all the more bitter by 3rd place finishing only 30 seconds ahead of me. I'll definitely be more conservative in Adelaide after losing what should have been an easy podium.  :(


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: miner2049er on December 02, 2009, 08:42:42 AM +0000
Should I be setting pressures higher?  At the moment I set pressures so I get 25 psi after several laps, but find the car hard to control for the first 3-5 laps until everything's warmed up.

You should set your tyre pressures so they reach a nice even temperature across the whole tyre using pressure and camber, though that goes out of the window at Spa and Monza as people overinflate tyres to give less high speed resistance.

Generally everybody takes a couple of laps to get theirs up to temp and the car will feel different, my setups tend to give me oversteer on cold tyres.Once I have my setup somewhere near how I want it I do runs of 10 laps or so and see how the tyres are at the end of it.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: NHance on December 02, 2009, 12:19:48 PM +0000
I like this track. Still it's a sign of the competition when you qually within 3% of the lap record & only get 7th on the novices grid. A handy crash at turn 1 lap 1 left me 4th going into lap 2. Still it will take a Turkey Machine type penalty imposing on the perpetrators for me to get any benefit from that as I eventually finished 12th.
No point in going defensive too early in the race so various bods passed me although I did get bumped off early on as well. Eventually was 9th but with 9 to go I beached it at turn 1 & had to shift R & S&G which dropped me to 12th. A bit concerned for the last laps as Happyal was filling my mirrors & he & I usually meet when stepping from wreckage (well we did in season 17). No offence Al, good behaviour all round by us both.
My braking is the weakest part of my driving as I can't heel/toe so just slam 'em on & select the gear for the corner just before turning. I suspect ( ok I know from a posting but it wasn't by a novice) some use the paddle shift but I'm not going that route. This sparked some comment, by my team mate for one, on a forum, but I'm sticking with the H shift in spite of all the times I miss gears.
Norm H
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: happyal on December 02, 2009, 12:52:20 PM +0000
LOL Norm,

I was on my best behaviour, when I saw someone spinning, at first I thought, yippee someone to play with :) Then I saw it was you, and because we've had a few paint swapping moment, I made darm sure I was well within my limits.

The only heart in the month moment was braking for turn 1, I thought I'd better brake early to be careful, didn't expect how early you where braking.... anyway, it was OK in the end, as I managed to slow down enough and took note for the next lap. Of course that was when I spun it, and let you go. After that I had a few other moments, and very sorry to G Poole, I really thought I left you enough space, you disapeared from my view and I thought you'd backed off, so I continued right into you. Very sorry.

Apart from those bits it was a lonely but steady race for me. I thought I'd be higher up the grid, but everyone is so fast these days. I hope my speed imrpves soon, as it's a bit disheartening at the back all the time.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on December 02, 2009, 01:42:52 PM +0000
One incident of note - missed my braking into Tarzan on lap 2 & was a bit too hasty with the rejoin. Have not checked the replay but I'm guessing this caused the collison with Flatspot (maybe he was too "flat" to "spot" - sorry)& some further disruption to following cars. Apologies to all concerned.
Otherwise quite happy to have kept the Brab on the grey stuff for pretty much all of 26 laps with no shift R.
Just to echo Happy Al's comment - despite lots of practice and edging down the laps times this league just gets more competitive.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: NHance on December 02, 2009, 03:20:33 PM +0000
Ok thanks Happy Al. Lets say that evens the score so now go hard as you like when I'm in the way & what happens, happens, there will be no hard feelings on my account. It made the last laps interesting!.

Like Billy says its getting competative. If like me you were a mid field, at best, runner last season & thought - well we got rid of the best 4 (that could go up) to amateurs so now I may be higher up the field. Well no. Al H proves so good he's been given a BT7, Rog Uk goes BRM & goes even faster, & up pops new men Tussman, D Rock to name but two.

Good though 'innit
Norm H

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: happyal on December 02, 2009, 04:51:44 PM +0000
Ok thanks Happy Al. Lets say that evens the score so now go hard as you like when I'm in the way & what happens, happens, there will be no hard feelings on my account. It made the last laps interesting!.


Hi Norm,

I think you’re being very generous there, thank you. I really enjoy racing you because you’re always fair, I hope I’m starting to show you the same consideration back, I’m just sorry we have some many coming together’s in the past, which if we’re honest, was all my fault.

Look forward to racing you again at the next race, hope we have many laps in a battle for places, because it was fun while it lasted at Zandy.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: Podkrecony_Ziutek on December 02, 2009, 05:04:48 PM +0000
My braking is the weakest part of my driving as I can't heel/toe so just slam 'em on & select the gear for the corner just before turning. I suspect ( ok I know from a posting but it wasn't by a novice) some use the paddle shift but I'm not going that route. This sparked some comment, by my team mate for one, on a forum, but I'm sticking with the H shift in spite of all the times I miss gears.
Norm H

Using H shifter it the only proper way to change gears in GPL;)

I also don't use H&T because it's very uncomfortable with G25 pedals. Try left foot braking ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: NickyIckx on December 02, 2009, 08:14:04 PM +0000
 :D ;D ::)
My congratulations goes to Tussman for his brilliant drive ( practise  and race ) very very well deserved win !!!!!
As well , big hand to Fabio for great 3rd & special congratulations to my team mate  Norbert !
He really did extreme well , 3rd on Race Laps consistency !!!!!!!
Big congrats of course to Roger on nice 4th and to all taken part .

As Vosblod , D.Rock and Al got bad luck it was possible for me to came out 2nd in the end ,
with no way  to give Tussman  any sort of hard times to be honest.
First lap I thought maybe  I would have been able to stay in his tow , waiting for mistakes to come. But he was so badly warping to me that I decided to stay bit more save behind , instead of attack him . well as the result clearly shows , I was all the way much too slow anyway.lol.

Special thanks goes to Billy and Bookie for taking care lapping been an save thing !!!!
I doesn’t felt comfortable in that behind Nigel ,  but maybe I should have risk to come more close to him , just to make clear I am on to lap him .. ( hell , but that understeering served to me was that kinda worse , that I don’t want to risk to much at that time 4 laps to go .. ).

All in all an great funny race . thx all .

( only downside : server quality to me wasn’t perfect , L-bar  between 10%-20% , constant understeering on my Cooper and as metioned above , some warping cars.

Well seen you all at Adelaide !
Btw , which version of Adelaide will it be ?

Regards
Nicky Ickx


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: vosblod on December 02, 2009, 09:20:09 PM +0000
Btw , which version of Adelaide will it be ?
http://jrpearson.homestead.com/AdelaideCircuits.html (http://jrpearson.homestead.com/AdelaideCircuits.html) (1967 version)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: bernie on December 02, 2009, 10:20:00 PM +0000
A big smile cos i could join without problems and some great racing with the red things of Fulvio, Norbert also N hance and Roguk although i tried my best to upset there party.

We traded places a few times though I didnt really have enough steam to get close enough to worry either of them and it was mostly the changing fortunes of racing which led to any passing or being passed

Was actually in P4 at one time but then threw the place away by overambitious driving in my attempts to get to P3 ( I could smell the podium but as we know, smelling and tasting are not quite the same thing )

My car was good and fast in the twisties but on the long straight it was pathetic and coudnt get near enough to anyone to get alongside into Tarzan and make a place , apart from just one brown trouser moment when norbert dived inside of N hance and i followed him through , looking at my replay it seems Nhance slowed to give room to norbert and I was close to him but slid wide across the infield , think there may have been some warp contact as nHance suddenly jumps left and spins out though my replay shows no physical contact was made between the cars .

Lap 20 and in my effort to get back with the lead pack (after another off) I go past p meastro into tarzan and get into one fantastic power slide around the hairpin , just wish I could repeat the manouvre at will cos im sure my section time was world record status .

Grats to Tussman, Nicky , and Norm for his solid drive into 3rd whose driving has improved no end since signing on with UKGPL

Looking forward to Aussie and the sunshine of Adalaide  :)

   


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: G Jonsson on December 03, 2009, 11:25:40 AM +0000
So, Finlay I got the win I was longing for.

It was really a very "easy" race for me. I just got Poole, took the start, took it easy and slow for a couple of laps, then left everybody behind, set fastest lap of the race and won the race. (I intend to do the same at Adelaide hihi). The only worry was lapping people but I must say a big thanks to the one I lapped for keeping out of the way, really well done.

Before the race I was a bit sad that Al had been put in the BT7 but a saw that the Amateurs race was won in the BT7 so ..................

I was wondering about the warping Nicky was talking about when he was following me at the beginning of the race, "when I was taking it slow". Al was talking about the same thing at Clermont. When I was looking at the replay in Nickys car I could not see any warping. So I wonder if the problem is in my connection, Nickys connection, the server or what it is and what can be done about it.

I am looking into the possibility of getting a better internet connection, but would really want to know if the problem lies with me. I am not so good with computers so help me out please, I mean I don't want to win races because no one can come close to me, not that I felt this was the case this time.

Well thanks for racing and well done all, see you at Adelaide.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: NickyIckx on December 03, 2009, 05:11:27 PM +0000
Quote
I am looking into the possibility of getting a better internet connection, but would really want to know if the problem lies with me. I am not so good with computers so help me out please, I mean I don't want to win races because no one can come close to me, not that I felt this was the case this time.

 :) as I said , I never was fast enough to serve you any sort of hard time at Zandvoort.
 ;) if you could manage to be around sometimes at Igor (ukgpl chat ) ,then we can do some tests to see if its your internet connection or not.
would be helpful too : knowing your type of Internet connection and speed , as well how you set up your core.ini , and if got a router , how that is set up .
-- , firewall and Antivirus software too could be point of interest .


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: Al Heller on December 03, 2009, 09:18:49 PM +0000
Before the race I was a bit sad that Al had been put in the BT7 but a saw that the Amateurs race was won in the BT7 so ..................

...so perhaps if it's that quick you might like to take the BT7 too?       

Well, I've enjoyed more than my fair share of good luck in races this season so was overdue a calamity or two. Made a good start but got launched into orbit after two cars accidentally tangled behind. Didn't suffer any damage but unfortunately found myself imprisoned behind a wire fence so had to take a shift-R to get back onto track - not my fault so I didn't take a SnG but by the time I got going again I was way behind. Tried to catch up but the BT7 is still pretty unfamiliar to me so made a few silly mistakes that lost me even more time. Plus of course I was a sitting duck on the long straight. Nevertheless had some fun battles on the way back to 8th - especially those last few laps with Pete who beat me across the line by a whisker!

Congratulations to Tussman, Nicky & Fabio.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: Podkrecony_Ziutek on December 03, 2009, 09:29:03 PM +0000
Before the race I was a bit sad that Al had been put in the BT7 but a saw that the Amateurs race was won in the BT7 so

It was won by Hristo, not his BT7 ;)

This car is the only thing that keeps him on our planet. If he got a fasther car, he would be home long time ago :alien:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: G Jonsson on December 04, 2009, 12:27:24 AM +0000
About the internet connection, what time do you be on Igor (ukgpl chat)  Nicky? I can manage like 10AM to 1PM and round midnight most days and anytime on Fridays. My internet connection is Mobil Internet with some kind of modem, the speed use to be round 1 Mbit/sec, no router. My antivirus is avast and firewall is Zone alarm both free versions.

My core ini is like this, I don't know what you need so here it is, oh and I use the Direct 3D if thats important.
 
steer_ratio= 0                                ; Speed sensitive steering ratio below 60 MPH
                     ; Allows sharper turns at low speeds.
                     ; 0 = No    1 = Yes *

[ Joy ]
allow_force_feedback = 1                      ; Use FF if device has it 0 = No *  1 = Yes
force_feedback_damping = 0                    ; force feedback damping coefficient - Default = 40.0
force_feedback_latency = 0                    ; force feedback latency (secs) - Default = 0.085   0.0040000
max_steering_torque = 600                     ; steering torque in N*in giving max device force - Default = 225.0
                     ;FFB steer vibe freq mult = 0.2000000

[ CLIENT ]
to_ip=                                        ; Connect to IP address
via_ip=                                       ; Connect via IP address

[ Communications ]
alternate_ip_addr_lookup=1                  ; Find IP addresses another way  0 = No alternate lookup *  1 = Use alternate way
bcast_augment_status=0                      ; Prepend status with IP address?
bcast_listserv=                               ; IP address of race list server
bcast_listserv_req=                           ; Empty string, or start with '?'
bcast_listserv_req_freq=10.000000           ; Request race list frequency
bcast_ping_disable=0                        ; Disable response to pings
bcast_ping_port=0                           ; Ping port number (0=default)
bcast_port=0                                ; Broadcast port number (0=default)
bcast_recv_disable=0                        ; Disable broadcast reception
bcast_send_disable=0                        ; Disable sending broadcasts
bcast_send_freq=4.000000                    ; Broadcast frequency (seconds)
clock_adj_delay=8                           ; How often may client adjust clock?  Only used when synch_method = 0 (see [ Tasks ]) original=4  in version 1.1 
disable_ipx=0                               ; Disable IPX support
disable_modem=0                             ; Don't look for/use modems
disable_network=0                           ; Disable network support
disable_tcp_ip=0                            ; Disable TCP/IP support
ignore_net_read_errors=1                    ; Don't disco if error reading pkt
ignore_net_send_errors=1                    ; Don't disco if error sending pkt
ip_addr_lookup_timeout=2                    ; Timeout to find own IP address. Default = 2 sec.
log_server_comm_errors=0                    ; Log errors for client channels?
log_server_connect_status=0                 ; Issue messages as clients connect
mem_client_send_every=1                     ; Client packet freq via memory
mem_client_send_size=276                    ; Client packet size via memory
mem_server_send_every=1                     ; Server packet freq via memory
mem_server_send_size=516                    ; Server packet size via memory
net_lan_client_send_every=2                 ; Client packet freq on LAN
net_lan_client_send_size=132                ; Client packet size on LAN
net_lan_server_send_every=2                 ; Server packet freq on LAN
net_lan_server_send_size=388                ; Server packet size on LAN
net_mdm_client_send_every = 3                ; Client packet freq on dialup
net_mdm_client_send_size = 84                ; Client packet size on dialup
net_mdm_server_send_every = 3                 ; Server packet freq on dialup
net_mdm_server_send_size = 384               ; Server packet size on dialup
net_server_port=0                             ; Server port number (0 = default)
net_use_mdm_bandwidth_for_tcp_ip=1            ; Use modem bandwidthfor TCP/IP - 1 = Use net_mdm_ settings *
;net_use_mdm_bandwidth_for_tcp_ip=0            ; Use modem bandwidthfor IPX    - 0 = Use net_lan_ settings

show_meters = 0      ; 0 = Off *  1 = On    Alt-m to toggle



[ Rasterizer ]
fullScreen = 1                             ; run Full Screen?

[ SERVER ]
max_car_class = 0                         ; 0=GP, 1=Fortgeschritten, 2=Anfänger
min_car_class = 2                         ; 0=GP, 1=Fortgeschritten, 2=Anfänger
auto_export_standings = 1                 ; Auto export if launched?
dedicated = 0                             ; Unattended - run server.ini races
launch = 0                                    ; Run GPL as a mp server
max_latency = 500.0                       ; Seconds. Set to 0.0 to disable
password =                                ; [access][/[boss]][=f.last]
repeat = 0                                ; If dedicated, repeat (0=forever)

[ Task ]
synch_method=1                                ; 0 = Version 1.0 client synch method
      ; 1 = Version 1.1 & 1.2 client synch method *


[ Direct3D7 ]
D3DDevice=0
TossHighestMip=0                              ; 0 gives best, sharpest image / 1 for lower end cards (image will be blurry)
DoubleMirrorResWidth=1                        ; 1 gives best mirror resolution / 0 lower mirror res for lower end cards
DoubleMirrorResHeight=1                       ; 1 gives best mirror resolution / 0 lower mirror res for lower end cards
DirectMirrorRendering=1                       ; 1.....Use 0 only for problems with image location (i.e. it’s in the corner of the screen)
DisableZBuffer=0                              ; If you use 1, disabling the Z buffer will reduce frame rate by 60% according to the readme.
AlphaThreshold=1                              ; 1 for better cards / 240 for lower end cards (trees look moth eaten)
TransparentMipsDrawOrder=1                    ; 1 for best image / 0 for lower end cards (trees look moth eaten)
TrilinearFiltering=1                          ; 1 for best image / 0 for lower end cards (non-single pass filtering, blurrier image)
AnisotropicFiltering=16                       ; 16.....higher for best image (1 (0 level), 2 (1 level), 4 (2 level), 8 (3 level), 16 (4 level filtering)), enabled in newer cards only
LODBias=-50                                   ; .....Try 0 (blurrier), -50 (sharper), -100 (far textures tend to speckle). Aim for a setting that looks sharp without speckling.


[ OpenGL ]
TossHighestMip = 0      ; Controls textures
      ; 0 = Don't toss *
      ; 1 = Toss. This will use only 25% of texture memory.
      ;     Use if frame rates are low or your graphics 
      ;     card has 8 MB or less.

MipFiltering = 4      ; Mip filtering
      ; In general, the lower numbers should be faster, with
      ; poorer image quality.
      ; 0 = no filtering, no mipmapping
      ; 1 = no filtering, with mipmapping
      ; 2 = bi-linear filtering, no mipmapping
      ; 3 = bi-linear filtering, with mipmapping
              ; 4 = tri-linear filtering

MirrorsEvery = 1      ; Mirror refresh rate in frames 4 default
      ; This parameter is supplied to prevent a performance
      ; hit in the in car view. Set a low as possible without
      ; affecting frame rate. The effect is that each frame
      ; only a part of the mirrors is drawn.
      ; Value range is 1 - 8

[ Replay ]
replayMemoryOverride = 180000
[ RasterV2 ]
TrilinearFiltering =1
DirectMirrorRendering =1
TossBiggestMips =0
LODBias =0
MaxMipSize =0
Height = 864
Width = 1152
MirrorSize =0
AnisotropicFiltering =8
ZBufferType =1
DrawMethod =1
Device=0
32Bit=1
FogDensity=1000
VSync=0
[Int Profile Values]
value0=RasterV2:Device:0
value1=RasterV2:TossBiggestMips:0
value2=RasterV2:MaxMipSize:0
value3=RasterV2:MirrorSize:0
value4=RasterV2:DirectMirrorRendering:1
value5=RasterV2:DrawMethod:1
value6=RasterV2:ZBufferType:1
value7=RasterV2:AnisotropicFiltering:8
value8=RasterV2:TrilinearFiltering:1
value9=RasterV2:LODBias:0
value10=RasterV2:32Bit:1
value11=RasterV2:Width:0
value12=RasterV2:Height:0
value13=RasterV2:FogDensity:1000
value14=RasterV2:VSync:0



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: NickyIckx on December 06, 2009, 03:51:01 PM +0000
 :)
Hi tussman ,

To me your core.ini settings do look ok .
1Mbits/sec is extreme slow. Are you really sure on it ?
( I do got 12Mbits/sec out off a contract promises 16Mbits/sec ). And 6M/bits/sec is the slowest you can order here those days .

Hope its not WLAN you have. If so kick it out through the window. Its devil`s work for gamers.

Hope too , no other users ( homenetwork ) are on while you race online.

But anyroads : you can check if maybe firewall and/or Antivirus software are an bottleneck , simply by turning them off and join a race via Igor.
Shouldn’t be that risky to do . In fact during our ukgpl online races I shot down my Antivirus software all the time .
As I am behind a router including firewall , I havnt any clue on how to set up zonealarm  .
But back the days I used zonealarm as well , I turned it off either for online races.

Well , maybe the program `and it all `helps a bit too. https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7084.0
Bernie should be able to help you in that .
And off course make sure really all update services are disabled !!!

Mostly  I am around at Igor/ukgpl chat at 8pm-11pm your time.(nearly every day ).

kindly regards
NickyIckx


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: G Jonsson on December 07, 2009, 01:10:09 AM +0000
Thanks for the answer Nicky,

I am not sure about what WLAN is but it might be. Is there some other possibility when the connection is mobil? The operator is called Icenet.

I am sure about the speed but there are no other user (homenetwork), I live alone with two cats and they don't care much about computers, (wonder what they are doing all day).

The option I am looking into is a fiber cable connection but it involves digging so I guess I have to wait until summer. Yes it is winter here with snow and frosen ground.

So, with the core.ini OK, (I am glad it is) the disconnection of the firewall and antivirus is about all I can do at the moment and I will try that the next round at Adelaide, so if you see the back of me there ..... hihi.

The time at Igor/ukgpl chat is early for me, usually get home from work round midnight but Tuesday I am free so, but of cause I have GplRacer race at 8.30, my time, maybe before that I can come around a bit.

Anyway, the fall of 2010 I hope all problems is long gone and that you may be able to run close to me with out problems.

PS. I just got to ask if you in any way are related to Jacky Ickx, he was my first F1 hero.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: NickyIckx on December 07, 2009, 01:25:43 PM +0000
 :D
Quote
PS. I just got to ask if you in any way are related to Jacky Ickx, he was my first F1 hero.

no I am not , but Jacky Ickx was my first F1 hero as well , back the days I was 6years old ( if my memory serves me well ).guess I was attracted by an Schuco scale Ferrari 312B with J.Ickx name on it . ;D

btw.
WLAN = wireless LAN

happy digging   :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: Hristo Itchov on December 07, 2009, 10:01:15 PM +0000
Just to add that I also race on a 1Mbit connection and it's not a problem at all. On good servers I don't have warp in any sim, not just GPL. As I said before you wouldn't benefit from having faster connection for online racing, unless you're hosting races, so the problems lie elsewhere.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: bernie on December 07, 2009, 10:48:15 PM +0000
:D
Quote
PS. I just got to ask if you in any way are related to Jacky Ickx, he was my first F1 hero.

no I am not , but Jacky Ickx was my first F1 hero as well , back the days I was 6years old ( if my memory serves me well ).guess I was attracted by an Schuco scale Ferrari 312B with J.Ickx name on it . ;D

btw.
WLAN = wireless LAN

happy digging   :D

I was a fan too , first saw him drivinglotus cortinas at Oulton Park then later in F2

I was at Spa in the grandstands opposite the pits in 1968 when Jackie came walking down the pit lane to climb aboard the ferrari 312

All around me were calling his name out loud,  "Jackie", " Jackie", over and over 

I thought of his giant killing F2 drive at the nurburgring when ferrari signed him up,  and my hair stood on end , thinking of what he would be trying to do that day   :)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: NickyIckx on December 09, 2009, 07:09:32 AM +0000
 ;)
Quote
I am not sure about what WLAN is but it might be. Is there some other possibility when the connection is mobil?

now I realised that your main connection is mobil . ( like on a ship , or inside a car.. ).
well , I havent any experiences or knowledge on that , but can easily imagine it could even serve more
probs than WLAN could serve sometimes.

 ??? is it called receiver ? that thinghie catch the signals from outa space ?
have you tried  different place inside your flat to locate/place that receiver , just to check if connection quality improves ?
( sry for my bad english )  :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: Turkey Machine on December 09, 2009, 12:26:13 PM +0000
Nicky: i use a mobile connection. Essentially it's internet over cellphones. I get 300-500 pings, which is better than the 60% quality with WLAN.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: G Jonsson on December 09, 2009, 12:37:20 PM +0000
First, your English is no worse than mine, I use the "Spell Check" before post anything.

Then, I have thought about the thinghie that catch the signal and have been advised to get a extra antenna, maybe that will help things a bit.

I think I will get it for the Adelaide race so if you just stay behind!!! me you can see if it is any better.

My ping, when using the pingtest.net use to be round 80 with jitter about 15.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: NickyIckx on December 10, 2009, 08:12:14 AM +0000
 :D
Quote
Then, I have thought about the thinghie that catch the signal and have been advised to get a extra antenna, maybe that will help things a bit.

so if a car with atenna is gonna to lap me , I know its you  :o

Speedtest.net   down 10.10 Mbits/s and up 0.78 Mbits/s
Pingtest.net    32 and jitter 1

Well , imo a good test is downloading for example XP SP3 from Microsoft page , just to see what down speed you got . It’s a very good server there..mostly I got 12.02 Mbits /s…


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: bernie on December 10, 2009, 10:37:58 AM +0000
It may be worth pointing "again" as others have , the connection speed should not be an issue, after all ,we used to run GPL on 56K modems.

The root cause is "LAG",  or the delay time taken to process the signal produced by you, then sent to the server and received back again .   

Using a wireless connection gives a small time delay (but a big one in electronic terms )  in transmitting / receiving the signals which causes the problems, it is the direct result of the signal processing needed for the wireless modem. 

If your car is at point A on the track, and you have delay (Lag) by the time your signal reaches the server your car has now moved to point B but the server incorrectly plots your position still at A

 

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: G Jonsson on December 10, 2009, 11:05:42 AM +0000
So, is the ping number a measurement of the delay you are talking about Bernie, and is there some other numbers involved here like the seize of the track folder? I mean does it matter if my Monza folder is 5,12MB or 53,1MB? Or is there something else I can change before the digging is done?

And Nicky, I promise to hide the antenna so that you don`t know it's me.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Dec 1
Post by: bernie on December 10, 2009, 03:49:34 PM +0000
No mate the track folder is nothing to do with lag , its all about the amount of time taken for your client PC to talk to the server and vice versa , as said you dont need a high speed connection in fact its pointless having megabit down/ up load speed "capability" unless you can send recieve without the delay effected by your wireless signal process  ::)