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Title: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 10, 2010, 04:16:04 PM +0000
In case you have been away from GTL, there have been GTL lobby problems. But.... it's all fixed now!

This is what you do to connect to the server:

1) Download & run this HOSTS HACK (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_hostshack)
2) Start GTL & select to the lobby
3) Register a new lobby account (I suggest the same name but with a blank email & password)
4) Log in with your new account & you should see a list of servers

:euro:

If this fix has not worked for you, then please check out this thread for more info/questions: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6869.msg119486#msg119486

But most importantly, do not suffer in silence (also, don't leave it till the Tuesday night ;)).
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All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (25 laps = ~40mins)

Track: Hockenheim GP
Cars allowed: Porsche 935 Download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_porsche935), Porsche 934 Download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_porsche934), BMW CSL GR.5 & Turbo Download here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3358.msg54518#post_bmwcsl5)

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: OFF
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: UKGTL REPLI-race
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) This race will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 which will need to be installed prior to racing; please get it from the downloads page.
(4) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=237;theme=5)
(5) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car

If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: pribeiro on January 11, 2010, 01:29:26 PM +0000
OMG  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: goldtop on January 11, 2010, 03:06:51 PM +0000
Gentlemen, start your rockets ;D

Anyone who takes the CSL is a big girl's blouse.............err that's me then ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: pribeiro on January 11, 2010, 04:31:10 PM +0000


Anyone who takes the CSL is a big girl's blouse.............err that's me then ::)

 :shifty: Everybody knows that my middle name is CSL  :shifty:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: purdie on January 11, 2010, 04:34:26 PM +0000
cool  8)

i think just finishing would be an achievement with these cars! that 935 wheel spins down the straight at le mans when i drove it!!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Legzy on January 11, 2010, 04:35:42 PM +0000


Anyone who takes the CSL is a big girl's blouse.............err that's me then ::)

 :shifty: Everybody knows that my middle name is CSL  :shifty:

So is it "P CSL R"?
Unusual :-\ :-*


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: BillThomas on January 11, 2010, 06:03:35 PM +0000
Help.  ::) Which is the least difficult to drive?  :scared: :surrender: They all felt beyond me at a quick try after installing them.  :notworthy:

Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 11, 2010, 06:05:16 PM +0000
Help.  ::) Which is the least difficult to drive?  :scared: :surrender: They all felt beyond me at a quick try after installing them.  :notworthy:

Bill
Join me in the 934 Bill.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: spanner on January 11, 2010, 06:28:37 PM +0000
Would be nice if you explained it all a bit further Tony. Is this just a test for the cars? As I wouldnt have thought the 934 would compete with the Group 5 monsters.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: pribeiro on January 11, 2010, 06:45:57 PM +0000
Btw, could the BMW 320 match in this group of cars? I will try it when I have a spare time.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 11, 2010, 06:49:07 PM +0000
Would be nice if you explained it all a bit further Tony. Is this just a test for the cars? As I wouldnt have thought the 934 would compete with the Group 5 monsters.
Yes sure.

This is a test race to check that there are no gremlins associated with these new mods. It's good practise to test the mods on a standard circuit at least once before we use them "in anger".


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 11, 2010, 06:51:06 PM +0000
Btw, could the BMW 320 match in this group of cars? I will try it when I have a spare time.  :)
I don't think so as it arrived in 1977 (willing to be corrected  :angel:)

I'm sure that the 320 will show up sometime in 2010  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: spanner on January 11, 2010, 07:09:14 PM +0000
Btw, could the BMW 320 match in this group of cars? I will try it when I have a spare time.  :)
I don't think so as it arrived in 1977 (willing to be corrected  :angel:)

Dont believe people realise what your trying to acheive with all this, Tony.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 11, 2010, 07:40:28 PM +0000
Something different  ::) ;)

Ah...maybe they have not seen this https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=237&theme=5


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: goldtop on January 11, 2010, 07:49:24 PM +0000
A season with these beasties :)

I think we'd better start practicing 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: BillThomas on January 12, 2010, 11:33:01 AM +0000
Help.  ::) Which is the least difficult to drive?  :scared: :surrender: They all felt beyond me at a quick try after installing them.  :notworthy:

Bill
Join me in the 934 Bill.

Thanks Tony.  Would you please supply me a docile setup so I can start looking at this.

Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 13, 2010, 05:22:48 PM +0000
Help.  ::) Which is the least difficult to drive?  :scared: :surrender: They all felt beyond me at a quick try after installing them.  :notworthy:

Bill
Join me in the 934 Bill.

Thanks Tony.  Would you please supply me a docile setup so I can start looking at this.

Bill
Bill, YGM


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: pribeiro on January 15, 2010, 04:11:38 PM +0000
Made my usual 'couple of laps'  :D  more for the curiosity than practice and the first impressions are
quite nice.
BMW Turbo: lots of power, hard to drive consistently. Press the throtle more than half way
and the car begins to slide everywhere.
Porsche 935: a nice surprise. Very easy to handle under full power exiting corners.
Quite easy also to steer when it begins to drift. Need extra care under braking.
Porsche 934: by far the easier to drive, althought slower, good power without an extreme kick.
A nice option for the Stadium section. I even managed to do the hairpin in 2nd gear with a good
exit while the other two cars need 1st gear to a good exit.
 
I can't wait for the very first race with these cars.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: goldtop on January 15, 2010, 04:37:47 PM +0000
Getting out of the tight corners of Hockenheim is a bit tricky for me with all except the CSL non turbo. However, I've tried the cars around some of the other tracks in the series and they seem much better.

As a suggestion, I think it would be nice if we had to pick one car to run the whole series so that we could really get to know it. I think it would add to the challenge because some cars seem to be more suited to certain tracks in this series than others. Also it might make for a more varied grid and avoid certain cars being more popular at certain tracks. It's probably the way I will go anyway.

Just a thought :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: purdie on January 15, 2010, 05:21:17 PM +0000
cheers for the analysis PR, i wud have thought the 935 wud be more of a beast but its a pleasant suprise!

I've got my chest-wig ready regardless  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 15, 2010, 07:20:50 PM +0000
As a suggestion, I think it would be nice if we had to pick one car to run the whole series so that we could really get to know it. I think it would add to the challenge because some cars seem to be more suited to certain tracks in this series than others. Also it might make for a more varied grid and avoid certain cars being more popular at certain tracks. It's probably the way I will go anyway.

Just a thought :)

A man after my own heart.

I am rather keen to add those kind of strategy elements into a championship but I think I'll pass for this one. The whole thing is rather a new concept and I'd rather not over egg the pudding (I'll explain that later PR). Perhaps some like minded drivers will do this anyway?
However the next REPLI-race series is just right for such a challenge so please be patient.

That is unless I'm inundated with pm's demanding that I change my mind  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: pribeiro on January 15, 2010, 07:54:26 PM +0000
  I'd rather not over egg the pudding (I'll explain that later PR). 

You mean not to much eggs, just the right amount.  :D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: goldtop on January 16, 2010, 03:07:13 PM +0000
Had a chance to drive these cars at a few tracks now and thought I'd give a brief evaluation for those who might be wondering which to choose.

Speed
935
CSL Turbo
934
CSL non turbo

Ease of driving
CSL non turbo
CSL Turbo
935
934

Comments
935 - An absolute monster, but controllable so long as it's not over-revved out of the slower corners. Seems to eat tyres :o
CSL Turbo - A little more forgiving than the 935 and almost as quick. I think this will be a popular choice.
934 - I find this to be the most difficult of the bunch to drive fast. One for the 911 enthusiasts I reckon.
CSL non turbo - wonderful to drive, possibly my favourite GTL car! But it is the least powerful of these and I think will struggle for pace.

This promises to be a great series. Well done Tony for coming up with this 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 16, 2010, 03:34:00 PM +0000
Great research GT and a very usefull guide too. Although my drive in the 934 didn't seem to difficult, but then I wasn't exactly hammering it, just seeing how it felt.

BTW in each race there are going to be other cars available. But you will have to wait for the race announcements for those details.

Any lap times for those circuits would be a great aid to me though (by pm if your shy  ;)). Just so I can check that my lap number estimates are correct.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Phil Gilliland on January 16, 2010, 05:52:51 PM +0000
935 - An absolute monster, but controllable so long as it's not over-revved out of the slower corners. Seems to eat tyres :o

My thoughts exactly. Much more controllable than I thought but the thing has a voracious appetite for rubber. After 5 laps tyre wear was up to 8.

CSL Turbo - A little more forgiving than the 935 and almost as quick. I think this will be a popular choice.

It'll certainly be mine!

Any lap times for those circuits would be a great aid to me though

From a non-alien, after 5 laps in each:

935 1.52.9
CSL turbo 1.52.8
934 155.4
CSL non turbo 156.0

This promises to be a great series. Well done Tony for coming up with this

Well done indeed. Should be a great series.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Ade on January 16, 2010, 09:11:06 PM +0000
CSL Turbo....1:47.04     Nice drive, oil was getting a bit hot when pushing it.
935.............1:46.65     Don't know what to do about the tyres on this thing  :( rear left at 9 after 4 laps :o


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 17, 2010, 01:14:53 AM +0000
Guy's re: tyre wear on the 935. Is high wear only on the rears?

I've had a poke around in the files and I think I may of spotted where a 0 (zero) may be missing.

I'm trying to get in touch with the authors.

Tomorrow I will try some laps with the "missing" zero inserted and see if this cures it or gives me a CTD etc  ::)

If it's a problem we can always turn tyre wear off but ideally I'd like it to be sorted.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 17, 2010, 06:43:07 PM +0000
Well my "fix" didn't cause any CTD's or miss matches online but then again I can't say for sure that it resolved the tyre wear issue either.

I have written to the car mod creators but so far no reply.

It may be that the readings are of the scale but that the car itself will behave normally. Can anyone confirm that the handling gets worse  ::) with tyre wear. It's hopeless me trying to test it, it's all can do to keep the thing in a straight line.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: goldtop on January 17, 2010, 07:01:55 PM +0000
I tried a dozen laps at Watkins Glen in the 935 and the wear was approx 21 front and 25 rear, by which point it was a bit leary and certainly past it's best. A shame if this can't be resolved because I don't think anyone will want to drive this race distance.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 17, 2010, 07:13:23 PM +0000
Yes I'd agree with that. No point choosing the fast car if your constantly pitting for new rubber, hopeless.

Having read through loads of post's on the 935, a lot of them talking about the handling, not one has mentioned tyre wear. That strikes me as odd  ???

This isn't a new mod, just out, so you would have thought that by now, if tyre wear was an issue, a fix would have been put out.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: spanner on January 18, 2010, 10:33:31 AM +0000
Well looking at that the wear is pretty good front to back, would have expected the rear to be alot worse than the fronts.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: purdie on January 18, 2010, 02:30:49 PM +0000
Is the server up?  ::)

I'm just anxious to sort out the problem of connecting I had last time. Just uninstalling the game so its a fresh install etc.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Legzy on January 18, 2010, 02:35:03 PM +0000
Is the server up?  ::)
The server was already up, but I've just restarted it in case there had been an issue (as you were asking). :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: purdie on January 18, 2010, 02:44:23 PM +0000
Thanks mate! Should be attempting it in circa 30 mins!

EDIT: many hours later, got the lobby working! Missed the post about the Host Hack after all that. Reinstalled and it all worked. Back to spinning the 935  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 18, 2010, 06:37:45 PM +0000
Good point Purdie and my apologies. I should have continued with the lobby message. I'll add it to the announcement now.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Ade on January 18, 2010, 08:00:04 PM +0000
The 935 is pointless  :(  had another go to see if i could get it any faster and after 5 laps the rear left was at 16.1 ( think this needs sorting before we use it)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: phspok on January 18, 2010, 11:18:31 PM +0000
LOL I also think the 935 is pointless. Perhaps if I could get it round the 2nd corner and do a proper lap.....  ;D
Turbo Beemer is almost as much of a hooligan, managed to get it round tentatively several seconds faster than
the G5 variant, didn't try the 934.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 18, 2010, 11:57:23 PM +0000
Ok gents, I hear you.

I'll turn off tyre wear for tomorrow night.

Then we'll see if the Mod creators answer my pm and/or we decide what course to take for the rest of the season.

After some more dabbling I think I've been able to get the tyre wear down some more but I have to get the Mod creators go ahead to change his data. Or we run the series with tyre wear off  :-\



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: purdie on January 19, 2010, 10:10:19 AM +0000
Cheers for that... don't suppose you could also make the brakes work?  ;) I am braking about 20 yards before the first brake board....They had brakes, I checked the history! (4 secs off the F1 cars of the 70's round Silverstone apparently!!!  :eek: )

I've driven a 930 turbo before round Spa and that stopped!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Steve Holmes on January 19, 2010, 01:03:36 PM +0000
lol Purdie, I thought the same as I sailed past the hairpin and into the run off at 80 mph every lap!  Especially the 934, never managed a single lap without multiple offs, how can it be so awful to drive?  :o

Then tried the 935 and managed a single almost-clean lap (out of 7 or so) just below 1:50.  Then the tyres went molten.

Think I'll give tonight a miss, need far more practice with these beasts, tonight would be a crash fest for me.  Shame about the 935 tyre issues, hope it gets sorted, this is a superb idea for a series Tony  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 19, 2010, 01:16:04 PM +0000
Oh come on Steve, It's only a fun(ish) race and everyones in the same boat


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: pribeiro on January 19, 2010, 03:43:50 PM +0000
I have just done a few laps with 935.
I believe that the tire wear displayed haven't the right consequence to the tires (at least as the same way as for another cars at GTL). After a few laps practice the tire wear was on ~10 but I wasn't feeling any
lack of grip for the value, as it used to be on another cars. Anyone checked this or had the same experience?
One thing for sure is that I hate don't like ( hi Mark  ;) ) to drive 911, but I really love to drive 935.
Very easy to mantain it at full power exiting corners, easier than the CSL Turbo in fact.
Much more predictable as I thought and very easy to grab it on the limits unlike 911. Now I'm terrible sorry
for the CSL, but I might trade it for the 935...I wonder if it can forgive me... ::)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Legzy on January 19, 2010, 03:56:34 PM +0000
My plans for this evening have just been changed for me... so wont be able to get back in time for this now


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: purdie on January 19, 2010, 04:43:43 PM +0000
I have just done a few laps with 935.
I believe that the tire wear displayed haven't the right consequence to the tires (at least as the same way as for another cars at GTL). After a few laps practice the tire wear was on ~10 but I wasn't feeling any
lack of grip for the value, as it used to be on another cars. Anyone checked this or had the same experience?
One thing for sure is that I hate don't like ( hi Mark  ;) ) to drive 911, but I really love to drive 935.
Very easy to mantain it at full power exiting corners, easier than the CSL Turbo in fact.
Much more predictable as I thought and very easy to grab it on the limits unlike 911. Now I'm terrible sorry
for the CSL, but I might trade it for the 935...I wonder if it can forgive me... ::)

I love the 935 too  :D I agree the tyre wear doesn't seem to have a huge effect, I should drive the thing for a few laps more but I keep crashing it. Still don't understand how people say its easy under full power, the turbo lag is terrible  :o

My plans for this evening have just been changed for me... so wont be able to get back in time for this now

unlucky mate  :(



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: goldtop on January 19, 2010, 04:55:32 PM +0000
The turbo lag on the 935 (and the CSL turbo for that matter) is pretty violent. The only way I cope with it is to keep it off the turbo coming out of the corners until I straighten up , even so it still catches me out. Good fun on the faster corners and the straight bits though :)

It's either the 935 or the non turbo CSL for me depending on how the grid looks.

Hockenheim is a difficult track for these cars. The tracks Tony has lined up are a totally different story and I can see this being a very  popular series :thumbup2:



Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 19, 2010, 07:10:41 PM +0000
Hockenheim is a difficult track for these cars. The tracks Tony has lined up are a totally different story and I can see this being a very  popular series :thumbup2:

Chose Hockenheim as it felt fitting for an all german car line up. Originally I had chosen Imola.

BTW I haven't selected the tracks, history has.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: pribeiro on January 19, 2010, 07:33:50 PM +0000
Is the lobby down?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 19, 2010, 08:12:05 PM +0000
No, problem PR?


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: mr_oily on January 19, 2010, 09:26:18 PM +0000
Well that was awesome fun. Great job introducing these cars WT...only tried the 935 but once I'd got over the initial shock of no brakes, no steering and immense turbo lag, I couldn't wipe the smile off!

Qually went ok but my racing left a lot to be desired! Understeered off towards Luxembourg at T1, then double shifted at turn 2, and spun at T3 LOL. By the end of the first lap was plumb last and pulling away from the hairpin in what felt like a 1.3 Fiesta....oh, until the turbo kicked in that is, launching me off at Mach 1 towards hopes of a comeback drive.

Seeing Andy had dropped back a bit from 3rd, I thought it was likely a few others would do the same. Unfortunately I got a bit excited and went to pull alongside the first of two CSL's into the hairpin. Instantly locked up and just plummeted up the inside of the first and then watched in slow motion as I slid all the way into GT's door - really sorry bud, definitely wasn't going for the move!!

A bit of speed followed and then more shocking driving - eventually stuffed it into the barriers and the engine conked out....still had a smile on my face though heheh.

Hard to deny adding new cars like this injects new life into GTL, great stuff. Hope you guys enjoy the rest of the race and I really hope your car's alright GT!!





Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 19, 2010, 09:40:40 PM +0000
Oh man, I'm crying with laughter after reading that ;D

Hope you all had a good night. Well better than Oily's anyway  ::)

Those cars sound evil, you don't need a mirror I can tell you.

Once again thanks everyone for helping out with the test, more later.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: phspok on January 19, 2010, 09:49:12 PM +0000
Well that went well  :laugh:
I found the Burmo Teeber to be the only thing I could drive out of the two Turbos, I had several attempts
to get the 935 round quickly and I was rubbish at it, made a very tame setup for the CSLt and practiced
gentle right foot, and lots of short shifting. Seemd to work. As I had hoped the quick 935s had problems
in the 1st few laps trying to remain in the grey bits in the right direction, Ade fell last, while we were lapping
and I sneaked in front, and managed to hold on to a bit of a gap until the gap became much bigger.
Then just paced myself to the end. Dunno about tyre wear, but my rears became VERY slippy 2/3 in
I had spent most of qual trying to get the temps flat across the tyre, I "think" I may have over done it.
Ah we,, was still almost controllable

Many thanks Tony for an "inspired" series....  ;D


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: goldtop on January 19, 2010, 09:59:46 PM +0000
Well that was good fun for the first few laps, but found myself driving most of the race on me todd. I used the opportunity to practice a few power slides which eventually cost me a stop/go on the last lap, but wasn't able to select it for some reason (think my pits were over the line).

I think I might have got in the way of Purdie while being lapped at the hairpin. Sorry mate it was a bit of a jam and I didn't realise you were there until it was too late.



Hope you guys enjoy the rest of the race and I really hope your car's alright GT!!





No Problem Mr.O, it was the lightest of touches really and I know the 935 is a nightmare when it goes wrong.

My only concern apart from the tyre issue with the 935 is that the non-turbo CSL and the 934 were well off the pace here and will be even more so at the upcoming tracks, which is a shame.

Congrats to Matt and the rest of the pody/finishers 8)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 19, 2010, 10:24:04 PM +0000
My 934 was off the pace because somehow it decided to become another car  :o, one with a five speed gearbox and no oomph at all  ???
Something else to investigate. Oh goody goody.
How was your'n Bill?

Results and replay now posted


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: purdie on January 19, 2010, 10:37:13 PM +0000
That is up there with my top sim races! Even tho I only finished 5th  :)

Didn't manage to get my pb in quali, kept cutting the corners on my best laps  :-\ and quali'd 4th.

Start was shaky, cold tyres had me sideways across the grid so apologies to people behind me  ::) after 2 laps I was running 2nd after getting past a few spinners before doing it myself and dropping to 8th  :'(

I think I might have got in the way of Purdie while being lapped at the hairpin. Sorry mate it was a bit of a jam and I didn't realise you were there until it was too late

No worries mate  :)

I got up to 4th after having some fun dices with Phil G and Dynosaur  :) and spun again, I chased Dynosaur and on the last lap I was putting on the pressure but ended locking-up and spinning, still 5th and finishing there  ::)

Car was mental.

Grats Matt top driving  O0


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: dynosaur on January 20, 2010, 07:39:34 AM +0000
It was great fun to drive this 935 monster. And I don´t think the tyre wear is an issue with these, at least I didn´t find the car uncontrollable even at the latter stages of this 25 lap race.

I didn´t have time to qualify (I was eating...) so took off as last, but I counted on you others to slip and slide which you thankfully did and I got nearer the front quite easily during the first couple of laps. PR was too fast for me as he continued to increase the gap lap after lap. Had a nice battle with Purdie, changing places a few times, until Purdie spun on the last lap, WT was a gentleman letting me past nicely at least twice ;), thanks mate!

Grats to podium and all who attended! I had fun!


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Phil Gilliland on January 20, 2010, 08:38:52 AM +0000
And I don´t think the tyre wear is an issue with these, at least I didn´t find the car uncontrollable even at the latter stages of this 25 lap race.

That's because there was no tyre wear last night, it was switched off on the server.


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: pribeiro on January 20, 2010, 09:42:53 AM +0000
What a fun.  :D
I really enjoyed it, more than I expected.
Managed to join the server just before quali begins due to an odd gremlin attack on my GTL folder.
I just couldn't find any server online, weird...after many tries of installing every 'lobby fix' I could
find, finally I was in. Had time to qualifying in 5th tho.
A nice start allowed me to get the 2nd place on turn 1, Oily went wide and I couldn't believe
I was in 1st after 20 seconds of race. But on the second lap I brake too late and hard and spun
on the left hairpin near the Mercedes stand (I believe, at least during DTM races there are zillions
of Mercedes flags there).  ;D Down to 8th and lets roll again...
I wonder how would be a race with 20 drivers with these cars, must be brilliant.  :)
Tony, Have you had any issue with your 934? I felt you were very slow on the straights.
Dyno and Andy were always on my mirror, but fortunately I didn't make any mistake untill the end.

Excellent idea this series. Brilliant. I guess we should tested the tire wear for real.
Tire wear adds reality factor to these cars.

After seeing the replay I understood what you were trying to tell me Phil.
Nice crash and a lovely fire in my rear end.  :D

Cheers


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: pribeiro on January 20, 2010, 09:56:14 AM +0000
Ermmmmm.....last but not least....
Congrats to Matt and Ade and well done to all finishers.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: dynosaur on January 20, 2010, 12:51:17 PM +0000
And I don´t think the tyre wear is an issue with these, at least I didn´t find the car uncontrollable even at the latter stages of this 25 lap race.

That's because there was no tyre wear last night, it was switched off on the server.

Ahhh that explains it then.... ;)


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: BillThomas on January 20, 2010, 06:13:36 PM +0000
My 934 was off the pace because somehow it decided to become another car  :o, one with a five speed gearbox and no oomph at all  ???
Something else to investigate. Oh goody goody.
How was your'n Bill?

Results and replay now posted

My 934 was OK thanks Tony.  When I eventually got everything sorted - well until my next to last lap when I spun and lost my 11 sec lead over API - it went very well.  Your car was way down on acceleration and top speed I just blew if off a couple of times going down to the hairpin.  We had a number of early laps where we each had  an off allowing the other to catch up until I managed to get into the swing of things.  Thanks dynosaur, I've had lots of practice driving with one eye on the mirror trying to see where I can go off line to let faster cars through - it usually works although I missed purdie at the hair pin.  I let 2 cars through and then had to brake and move as I was worried about going into the back of braking cars (the 934 brakes are useless) and purdie came from nowhere down my left hand side.  The 935 appeared to have much better brakes.


I don't know if it's just me but after a spin only the lightest throttle caused a series of discos.


It was pleasing to set a new PB in the race about 4 secs better than on Monday.


Bill


Title: Re: UKGTL Season 9 REPLI-race - Hockenheim (GP) Test Race - Jan 19
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on January 20, 2010, 06:29:04 PM +0000
I think it's just a matter of the more you practise , the more you get used to the cars characteristics.

Yes my car left half it's hp in the pits and added an extra gear cog  :censored:

Looking forward to Mugello though  8)

EDIT: Porsche 934 problem now fixed.