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Title: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Syd Drake on January 16, 2010, 10:40:22 PM +0000
UKGPL Season 18 - Historic Division - Race 9 - 66 mod -Monaco

Race date = 19-01-2010
Server = 6.UKGPL
IP Address = 62.149.202.168
Time = 21:00
Track = Monaco
Variant = 66F1,  2L engines
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = long

Group I
T1F Eagle Climax
Lotus 33 Climax                

Group II
Brabham BT11 2.5lt      
Lotus 33 BRM      

Group III
Ferrari 246  
Brabham BT11 BRM  
BRM P261  
Brabham BT11 2.7lt  


Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I
Gerard Kayou
Hristo Itchov

Drivers Restricted to cars from Groups I or II
Clive Gardner
Tim Muttram   



All other drivers have free chassis choice.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=221&theme=6)





Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 19, 2010, 07:51:57 PM +0000
Just noticed I can't see a password  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 19, 2010, 08:39:06 PM +0000
Just noticed I can't see a password  :)
Should be there now Tim


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 19, 2010, 09:00:14 PM +0000
Yup - cheers  :angel:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Dave Randall on January 19, 2010, 09:56:09 PM +0000
Was settling down to be a good race, with Gerard a little way up ahead, then Clive, myself and Tim running close together, but engine decided otherwise :(

Hope you all had a good one and grats to podium.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Syd Drake on January 19, 2010, 10:24:53 PM +0000
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Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Turkey Machine on January 19, 2010, 10:51:05 PM +0000
No matter how many times I clobbered a wall, pillar, lamp post or another car, that bloody BRM stayed together!!!!!!

Had absolutely no worthy practice time other than to work out what was broken in the bodged setup from a 65 BRM. Computer was being a complete arse which negated any time I had set aside to work on the BRM P261. Thus I lined up plum last on the grid and hoped that the changes I'd made between practice and race worked. They did... almost!

The car was great fun to drive, and on low fuel towards the end of the race it was a real charmer - only one second off evilclive's fastest lap! Had I got a proper time in on low fuel I reckon I coulda been top 3 or 4 based on the number of finishers in this one. Made 2 cockups, one at Mirabeau when the car was sideways on entry and ended up facing the wrong way. Kudos to people for not hitting me. I ended up from 4th-last and fighting my way through the field back to last and doing it all again! 2nd cockup was at the chicane when I clobbered the not-so-soft bales on entry and found my car wobbling more than I could handle it. The end result was a car that was in the crux of the braking point and sideways in the middle of the track, which meant I couldn't see who was coming when, even with Prib. Consequently I went from inside of track to outside of track and Fulvio couldn't miss me in time. Apologies for that.

Thanks to Phil for being a gentleman and letting me through when I least expected it - twice!

If my aggression on track seemed apparant to anybody, I apologise. I'd nearly had enough by the time the end of practice came about, so to actually get somewhere on the grid with half a setup that was OK to drive close to the limit was pleasing.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Syd Drake on January 19, 2010, 11:16:38 PM +0000
Göran Jonsson what is you forum nick?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 20, 2010, 12:07:23 AM +0000
Göran Jonsson what is you forum nick?
It is Tussman see this post (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7335.msg129377#msg129377).  I've updated the results table.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Hristo Itchov on January 20, 2010, 07:01:32 AM +0000
Congrats Gerard on the title, well deserved!  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 20, 2010, 11:13:13 AM +0000
Was settling down to be a good race, with Gerard a little way up ahead, then Clive, myself and Tim running close together, but engine decided otherwise :(

Hope you all had a good one and grats to podium.

That was very unfortunate Dave, looked set to be a stormer of a race appearing - you were close enough to hassle Evil and keep him from getting away, while I was yo yo'ing closer/further behind you while trying to avoid hitting you in the braking zones. I've a feeling we'd have had a very close race had Clive managed to escape as I think I had the slight edge - certainly in the first half of the lap - but Monaco being Monaco I had no way past  ;D

Must admit my battle with you distracted me so much I forgot all about Gerrard up front. I actually thought that your engine blowing up (thanks for pulling over sharpish BTW) had vaulted me into 2nd!
Only realised I was 3rd after the race when Jethro said 'A Waza 2-3-7' Then rechecked the finishing order and still thought that GPL had messed up  :ninja:

Anyway, had a good chase after Clive once you retired. He appears to have peeked early going by the fastest laps in the graph, and I spent most of the race lapping to within a few tenths or even thousandths of a second, I even managed to pull him in on a few occaisions  :o
Sadly any real hope of catching him evaporated when I put 2 wheels on the pavement at Massenet and performed a tidy 360 - I never actually stopped moving but it cost me about 2 seconds and put me off my stride for a few laps - About 5 laps after that incident I caught the first of the backmarkers, and lost a couple of seconds passing them as we had to wait for safe places to get by.

Big thanks to all cars being lapped as you all left room as soon as it was safe to do so - Im not so sure about Jethro's method of just stopping in the middle of the track approaching Tabac though, it's quite scary braking from top speed on the wrong side of the track  ;D

Good race and Congrats to Gerrard for the race and the Championship  :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Turkey Machine on January 20, 2010, 12:07:03 PM +0000
Big thanks to all cars being lapped as you all left room as soon as it was safe to do so - Im not so sure about Jethro's method of just stopping in the middle of the track approaching Tabac though, it's quite scary braking from top speed on the wrong side of the track  ;D

Good race and Congrats to Gerrard for the race and the Championship  :thumbup1:

Tim, I promise you that wasn't intentional, and I was relying on people actually seeing me after going through the chicane at flat chat. You missed me, which I was grateful for, however Fulvio couldn't quite when I moved in the gap between you and him to the other side of the track.


Oh, fantastic work to the 2 cars who made sure I wouldn't get out of the bales at Gasworks (last corner hairpin) on lap 1 or 2 despite me taking the widest line possible.  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: FullMetalGasket on January 20, 2010, 01:07:51 PM +0000
Tim, I promise you that wasn't intentional, and I was relying on people actually seeing me after going through the chicane at flat chat. You missed me, which I was grateful for, however Fulvio couldn't quite when I moved in the gap between you and him to the other side of the track.

LOL, I was taking the mick  :P
I've yet to have someone purposely park at 90 degrees to the course to let me through!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: EvilClive on January 20, 2010, 01:23:43 PM +0000
Coming into this race I could not decide between the Eaglet or the Lotus33BRM. I had driven the baby Eagle around Monaco when 66 was released and found it a very forgiving chasis, but the Lotus was nearer to my beloved Brab BRM which I can usually throw at a circuit and get results ::) .
In the end I plumped for the Eagle as throwing things at Monaco usually ends in tears and tantrums!!

Gerard set a cracking qually time and although I was using race fuel in qually, just to be sure the handling was sorted, I don't think I would have matched that time even with light fuel load. So I was quite pleased to get 2nd spot especially as it is so difficult to pass at Moanco even if you are faster.

Off the grid I got almost alongside Gerard on the run to St Devote and briefly considered calling his bluff down the inside, but I considered that the "chicken" option might give us both a longer race  ;).

For the first few laps I kept a steady gap to Gerard wh was doing a very passable impression of the Evil "sideways is best" method of driving on his cold tyres. Dave and Tim were never far off my tail pipes and there was no chance to relax as we all got into our stride.

A couple of minor mistakes dropped me back into attack range for Dave and gave Gerard the chance to make a break. It was then that I decided that I did not like someone invading my personal space from behind and stuck in a banzai lap ( which turned out to be the FL  ;D ) to get away.
This closed the gap just slightly to Gerard who was getting far too comfortable up front but experience has taught me that you can rarely run at 10/10ths around Monaco and still be around at the flag, there are just too many places where a fraction off line loses a wheel or bends something. I always race the Monaco circuit 1st and the other drivers 2nd!!
I then relied on Gerard getting friendly with the armco, something that he failed to do!!!, and managing the gap back to Dave at a comfortable level knowing that I had more in the tank if I needed it.
As the race progressed Gerard steadfastly refused to do the decent thing and blow his engine or hit something hard and had the audacity to ease away as well!!! 2nd became more secure when Tim dropped back and I was able to drive well within the limits of the chassis to the flag.
Thanks to the lapped drivers who always moved over as soon as it was safe and allowed us through.

Grats to Gerard on the win and Championship, you were always up the sharp end and quick in all races. Grats to the Wazas who even without Hristo were able to claim some more good points for Her. ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Al Heller on January 20, 2010, 01:49:31 PM +0000
WD podium & congratulations to Gerard on a well-deserved championship :thumbup1:. Really enjoyed the challenge of 30 laps round Monaco. I was going to take the 2.7L Brabham here but after a last-minute test switched to the Brab-BRM (can see why you like it so much Clive - what a great little car). Was impressed that everyone seemed to have a pretty clean first lap (perhaps the tight grid did us a favour). Managed to go a little wide at Portier which let Syd through but apart from that had a clean run to 5th. Laptimes weren't too impressive but I wasn't catching Syd & with nobody close behind I was taking it a bit easier through that tricky chicane.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Turkey Machine on January 20, 2010, 04:32:48 PM +0000
Al, Clive loves the Brab-BRM, it's his favourite motor in 66 Interleague races!!! ;D

Will have a look at a replay this evening, if one's available and see who was guilty at the last corner. :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: kinghiro on January 20, 2010, 05:14:49 PM +0000
I really enjoyed the 30 laps. My pace was like 2 secs above qual time and I don t understand how you guys can stay consistantly so much closer to qual time. As Usual I m slower than those few cars that qualed just behind me (and JW who didn t qual). I Love simulating real race situations and Monaco is a track one can be trapped behind slower cars for ages. So I tried to defend my position, but not at all cost. I opened up for Policardi last turn but "communication"failed and we just went slooow waiting for the other to take the corner and I eventually went out first .Laptime 1.33+and JW caught us and passed Policardi.Later after like 2+2 laps with a gap between with JW close behind he got through.
He had a spin just after and I got back to 6 th place wich I kept to the end enjoying alone xpt being lapped by the podiumguys.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: gerard kayou on January 20, 2010, 08:59:20 PM +0000
Well, as you'll expect, i won't say that was a bad race for me :)

I have always been fast at monaco, so the deal was easy : pole position at any cost. I did a good time, close from my best with this car.
The race was less easier, because i had an Evil fast behind. I has a margin thinner than i expected, so i had to do a gap for evil to lose my draft. Then i drove more safely, especially on the engine not to do a mistake or break something. Thats what i learnt from my previous seasons done with 100% lenght GPs, save your car and finish.

Winnig a title is very nice, and i'm very happy, though without Hristo, the expected duel didn't happened.
A French driver winnig a F1 title, wow, that's fantasy nowadays, because on the real life....
Again, thanks for the fairplay of the lapped drivers, and see you soon at monza!

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: Phil Thornton on January 20, 2010, 10:19:03 PM +0000
Congratulations Gerard, well deserved you've produced some stunning drives this season  :notworthy:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: kinghiro on January 21, 2010, 03:13:34 AM +0000
Congrats Gerard  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 18 (2009) Historic Trophy (66) - Monaco (1929-71) - Jan 19
Post by: fpolicardi on January 22, 2010, 10:55:38 PM +0000
Grats Gerard!