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Title: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: popabawa on January 28, 2010, 09:21:20 AM +0000
Car: Skip Barber Formula 2000
Track: Infineon Raceway (Long)

Practice: 18:00 for 135 mins (approx)
Qualifying: 20:15 (15 mins)
Race: 20:30 - 24 laps (approx 40 mins)

Start: standing
1 'fast tow' (reset) available for each driver (available by pressing SHIFT+R by default)

Practice: A server will be available from approx. 19:00 - 23:00 the day before the race

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=243;theme=33)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Legzy on January 30, 2010, 10:41:33 PM +0000
Just done some practice laps here. Like the track (did a Radical race here a few weeks back :o 8)), but I was reminded that I just don't enjoy/get this car at more then a couple of tracks. On 1st impressions, this isn't one of them.

I'll give it another go tomorrow or Monday though to see if it starts to come together. :-\


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: ross.mcw on January 31, 2010, 08:04:04 PM +0000
Quite a tricky one to string together consistently tidy laps on!  Managing low 1m52's so far after a handful of laps.  I can imagine that quick laps will be below 1m50 though.

Great for drifting!

Cheers, Ross.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Mike Wrightson on January 31, 2010, 09:30:08 PM +0000
I'll give this a go, I'm getting round the place reasonably well with a 1:50.2 PB.  I just need to work on consistency a bit.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Burtoner on February 01, 2010, 05:37:14 AM +0000
thats decent time Mike, im doing 1:49.5s which is my PB.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Kerr on February 01, 2010, 08:42:03 AM +0000
Not one of my favourite tracks.

I've not driver the Skip since the update, but if the old laptimes are anything to go by here it's going to be another hard fought race.

Mid 1.48s have been recorded by a few drivers.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 01, 2010, 10:30:43 AM +0000
Any chance of a pracci session tonight?  :angel:

Haven't used iR since the last rebuild and hope this combo, one of my faves, hasn't been jiggered.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: popabawa on February 01, 2010, 11:16:29 AM +0000
Practice: A server will be available from approx. 19:00 - 23:00 the day before the race

;D

Every league race (Skippy and Dallara) will have a practice session the day before.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: spanner on February 01, 2010, 11:25:28 AM +0000
tried just one lap last night after the UKGTR one and it feels like a completely different track!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: popabawa on February 01, 2010, 12:15:45 PM +0000
Every league race (Skippy and Dallara) will have a practice session the day before.

Except maybe tonight....

I've just notice the maintainance is scheduled for this evening from 20:00-24:00 and that hosted sessions will be unavailable for 4 hours prior to that so we're completely stuffed I'm afraid.

NO PRACTICE SESSION TONIGHT.

Normal practice service will resume next week.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Burtoner on February 01, 2010, 06:08:26 PM +0000
But race is still on for tomorrow night?


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 01, 2010, 06:26:06 PM +0000
But race is still on for tomorrow night?

It better be as I've just signed up for another two years! :laugh: Where's my ruddy $10 participation bonus?!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: spanner on February 01, 2010, 08:58:27 PM +0000
Forgot they take the whole site down! Thought i could still get some practise offline.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: spanner on February 02, 2010, 10:21:01 AM +0000
Not sure if its just me, my new wheel, or the new build or just the track but the default setup i'd been using uptill now feels way too oversteery now on power. still working my way around corner by corner but those last fast sweeps really catch me out.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 02, 2010, 10:33:45 AM +0000
After the new build, the skippy feels much less oversteery to me ??? Its now much more comfortable to push it hard and flat outtish for me. Around and about mid 48's for me which bears that out.

Still a brilliant car/track combo after build  :) That long dipping left, mid-track, is drift-tastic.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Kerr on February 02, 2010, 04:26:31 PM +0000
What have they done to the Skip?

I can hardly drive the thing now. I always used right foot braking and now it seems clear you have to balance it on the brakes and throttle to keep it pointing straight ahead.

The car seems softer and sloppy in slow corners, has bigger oversteer on entry when right foot braking and has a lot more understeer on exit.

I can hardly put a lap together. I'm in big trouble.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Paul968 on February 02, 2010, 04:37:39 PM +0000
I've found it is more sensitive to setup Brian. Try playing around with the roll bars, pressures, etc and you may well find a setup that is easier to handle.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: ross.mcw on February 02, 2010, 05:48:45 PM +0000
If anyone has a decent setup they're willing to share that would be really good, I've just been tooling around with the default so far.

Cheers, Ross.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Burtoner on February 02, 2010, 05:59:02 PM +0000
Seems I bit slow in skips, I dont know if anything has changed, started doing 1:55s, now got down to 1:49s


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Kerr on February 02, 2010, 06:13:53 PM +0000
What time will the server be up?


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: popabawa on February 02, 2010, 06:17:48 PM +0000
The server should be there in the next couple of minutes.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Kerr on February 02, 2010, 06:20:30 PM +0000
It's up now thanks


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 02, 2010, 08:48:22 PM +0000
I can only say what I see and standards have been ruddy awful in Oval race and this. One more race like that and it will be three strikes and I'm out.



Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Bernie Lomax on February 02, 2010, 08:55:25 PM +0000
Must apologise SBG missed my braking point bigstyle and wiped you out.
I shouldn't have raced as i hadn't done enough praccy.

All i did was ruin it for someone else  :-[


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Legzy on February 02, 2010, 09:02:22 PM +0000
From what I can tell, the Skippy should only be used at a couple of tracks, i find it just an awful undriveable mess at most locations I've tried.
Couldn't get within 3 secs of my PB in this new build & in fairness I actually could barely complete a "clean" lap.

I'm sure this is a lovely car if your a top driver, but it's pants for a driver of my limited talents. I can't see myself being in a hurry to get back in it. >:(

Luckily our other series, the Indy car is so much easier to control :whistling:

Roll on the Late Model race tomorrow.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Kerr on February 02, 2010, 09:33:13 PM +0000
Went far better than I was expecting.

Even in the practice session prior to race I was thinking there is no way I can last 24 laps.

Then the qualifying session went well. Only spun it after the flag came out and I let it go.

From the off Darren was putting me under pressure. Rarely did the gap reach one second but then he drifted back towards PaulH and must have made a mistake to fall right back.

Then Paul went too and that left me space to breathe.

Rather than risk it, I did hold back on the dangerous corners and did what I had to do to come home safely.

Pole, fastest lap and race win can't complain at that.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Mike Wrightson on February 02, 2010, 09:34:15 PM +0000
Finally, a Skippy race that I enjoyed!

It is a bit easier to drive in the new build and responds to setup changes better.  Even after qualifying a surprised 5th, my aim was just to make the finish in one piece.  Survived the twitchy first lap and tried to settle down.  Along the way, paul Richards finally passed me into the chicane (I hate that turn, I can't hit the braking point) and Paul Harrington spun twice, leaving me in 4th with a 13 sec gap.

Then I slipped and spun in the fast right.  Nudged the wall, but the car wasn't badly damaged, though it was more keen to turn right than before.  I couldn't hold Paul H off very long, then just brought it home 5th.

Happy with that.  I still wouldn't describe the Skippy as friendly though  :D


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 02, 2010, 09:37:58 PM +0000
Hate that track, there is a couple of corners I just can't do and with the Skip Barber being so hard to drive it was a recipe for a few off track excursions and spins. No grip, no grip, no grip. Hats off to the Skip masters like Brian and Paul.

Ginsters, you seem to be a magnet for accidents in iRacing, did you exchange bodily fluids with Ralf Schumacher recently?

I span 3 times in total and had three bits of driving across the dirt in various forms. I was in last place at one point but soldiered on, had fun passing other people and finished 7th with all the people that just quit. Why? I was last, span three times and finished 7th, so you can't say it's not worth carrying on, especially when you front guys are lapping 2-3 seconds faster than the guys at the back.

Anyway, on holiday for the next round so with the scheduling as it is won't be back in Skippies until Round 4. With the first round of IndyCar at Brands my next iRacing SRou race is 23rd Feb.

Congrats to Brian on the win and with a great start from Mr Wrightson too that should get Team Shark's team championship off to a good start. :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: popabawa on February 02, 2010, 09:39:33 PM +0000
Sounds like some of the quicker guys could learn a thing or two from the duffers at the back!  :whistling: lol

That was a great race for me, had a battle with Pete almost the whole way and a wild 3-way close finish with Paul Thurston too. All super-clean, we swapped positions a good few times but all finished and lived to tell the tale. Just how it should be :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: picnic on February 02, 2010, 10:07:36 PM +0000
I can't see how people think the Skippy is easier to drive. Ok I didn't get the practice I'd hoped for as I got a phone call before the race but that car is still a recipe for disaster; brake, steer or lift and it over steers everywhere. I'm sure I was so painfully slow in a couple of corners people were going to accuse me of brake testing them but that was not the case, I just suck  :-[

Also what's with the spotter and fuel usage. With about 3 laps to go he tells me I only have enough fuel for 5 laps, then on the last lap after that long downhill left the engine is coughing and spluttering and it's obvious I'm running out of fuel. So as I'm causing unfair grief to Paul behind as I almost lose it through that fast right (another corner I'm slow at anyway) the spotter tells me I  only have 2 laps of fuel left, yeah right I don't have enough to be competitive round the next corner! Paul got the place on the run out of the last corner as I had no go. The only positive was I didn't get lapped.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Fred Basset on February 02, 2010, 10:08:24 PM +0000
Interesting how the new build divides opinion, I liked the skip before and now I think its brilliant. To me its  much more like driving a real car on track now.

Qually did not go as well as I hoped and I was four tenths off my pb, the race was interesting and I was following Brian, Darren and Paul H for a few laps before I dropped a couple of seconds back. Darren went off and slowed Paul so I caught up. Then Paul span and slowed me down so Darren caught me. I was quite comfortable though and in the later stages I realised Brian was slowing down but it was fun to try and catch him, until I made a mistake at the hairpin and with Mr Richards now behind me I decided to bring it home.

It was a fun race and nice to see another UKGPL old boy, Paul "Mr GEM" Thurston joining us ;D

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 02, 2010, 10:20:31 PM +0000
Can't say the Skippy feels any different in any of the recent builds TBH. I found it hard before and after. :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 02, 2010, 10:21:07 PM +0000
I seem to have slipped back into "almost mode" again. :-\ Was running in a strong 7th, best of the non-aliens, then Darren spun behind and I was 6th and pushing hard to try and stay ahead to the finish. Then he pitted (splash and dash?) and with nothing left to concentrate on and only a coupe of laps to go I turned in a fraction too early for the final hairpin and ended up stuck in the tyres. Car was intact but I had no choice but to reset, which dropped me behind everyone but Spanner, throwing away all that hard work. ::)

If you're struggling with this car, raise the front and soften the rear completely. You pretty much have to hold a little throttle on under braking (I can only assume the diff just isn't modelled properly!). Everything happens so slowly in this car that unless you're being very rough with it, it rarely surprises.

If you think the IndyCar is easy to drive, you're only getting 80% of its performance out of it. In the new build I find there's very little warning when it finally does start to break away.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 02, 2010, 10:31:13 PM +0000
If you think the IndyCar is easy to drive, you're only getting 80% of its performance out of it. In the new build I find there's very little warning when it finally does start to break away.

Maybe, but the difference is that being 80% of the pace in the IndyCar isn't too shabby. In Skippy 80% off the pace is very shabby. Lack of driving talent can be masked more easily in the faster and grippier cars.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: picnic on February 02, 2010, 10:33:32 PM +0000
I think my main problem with the skippy is the steering is too sensitive, even doing the last haripin I need no more than 45° of steering on the G25. I'm sure the real car must have more than 90° of steering lock :-\


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Fred Basset on February 02, 2010, 10:44:00 PM +0000
As I say its interesting, I find the car to be so adjustable on the throttle now compared to the last build and in contrast to Dave's comment I'm using the throttle much less under braking now.

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Kerr on February 02, 2010, 10:50:39 PM +0000
I don't use the throttle at all under braking


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Fred Basset on February 02, 2010, 10:53:55 PM +0000
Could you use it bit less under acceleration as well Brian ;D

Regards
Gary


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Kerr on February 02, 2010, 11:13:49 PM +0000
Nah, the straights are my strong point.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Paul968 on February 03, 2010, 12:17:40 AM +0000
Not my best race by quite some margin :( Spending most of last week learning to drive the Impalla round michigan probably didn't help, and I never really got on top of the problems the track poses in a race. Practice was OK but qual was poor as I had the kids to look after. I pushed Darren for several laps until he made a mistake, and then I really should have used my brain and settled for consistent laps. Instead, I pushed as hard as possible to pressure Brian, who by then was a few secs ahead, and this was my undoing. I spun at the same place as Darren (T4R) and let a bunch of cars past. I set off in pursuit and got a couple of places back before I caught up with Mike in 4th. I was just putting the pressure on when I messed up again and spun at T1. Darren was past again, only to return the compliment not long after. Mike also decided that the racing was more fun with me around and spun before the final hairpin, setting up a nice little battle for 4th which I managed to win, and that is where it ended.

Grats to Brian for the win, to Gary for a well deserved 2nd and to Paul for finding good consistency despite the mountain of nappies and baby sick he must be submerged under atm  ;D

I know what Chris means about the skippy, but you have to ask what racing is about? Is it driving around within the limit, or is it driving up to and sometimes just beyond it? The limit for the skippy is wide, which lets you drive right on the edge and still stay in control. You cannot do this in faster cars unless your surname rhymes with tutu, so many of us prefer to race the cars which have some margin for error but also feel 'alive'.

I get the impression that the recent updates have made setup much more important. Small changes in anti roll bars or spring perches have noticeable effects, and changing the tyre pressures can change the car completely. It is the last one that I would recommend to get started. Pump up the front tyres much more than the rears, and the car becomes quite stable. Then you can start taking the pressure out as you get used to the handling and the understeer becomes an issue.

As I see it, iRacing is easily the hardest mainstream sim, and it will always take some effort to be quick. This is what makes it so exciting though, because when you get it right it is so rewarding.   


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: picnic on February 03, 2010, 06:51:44 AM +0000
As I see it, iRacing is easily the hardest mainstream sim, and it will always take some effort to be quick. This is what makes it so exciting though, because when you get it right it is so rewarding.   

You do have a point there Paul and this was very paramount when GPL demo first came out over 10 years ago. I couldn't for the life of me drive a lap but somehow was compelled to keep trying. The one difference though, I was trying to get a F1 monster around Watkins Glen  ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 03, 2010, 07:29:18 AM +0000
I can't see how people think the Skippy is easier to drive. Ok I didn't get the practice I'd hoped for as I got a phone call before the race but that car is still a recipe for disaster; brake, steer or lift and it over steers everywhere. I'm sure I was so painfully slow in a couple of corners people were going to accuse me of brake testing them but that was not the case, I just suck  :-[

Also what's with the spotter and fuel usage. With about 3 laps to go he tells me I only have enough fuel for 5 laps, then on the last lap after that long downhill left the engine is coughing and spluttering and it's obvious I'm running out of fuel. So as I'm causing unfair grief to Paul behind as I almost lose it through that fast right (another corner I'm slow at anyway) the spotter tells me I  only have 2 laps of fuel left, yeah right I don't have enough to be competitive round the next corner! Paul got the place on the run out of the last corner as I had no go. The only positive was I didn't get lapped.
Is that what happened?  I did suspect it might be fuel when I watched the replay afterwards.

I knew I was catching you on the run down through the sweepers and was lining up to get a run into the hairpin if you made a mistake but wasn't expecting you to twitch quite so spectacularly in the right hander.  I was flat so had no chance of going inside but somehow kept it together half on the dirt.  I think the new throttle mapping actually saved me there as I find it much more natural to hold the car on the overrun now.

When we came out of it I was a bit narked to see you were still in front but thought I'd make myself big in your mirrors anyway and just concentrated on getting the power down out of the corner, I was somewhat surprised to pull alongside though and when I went over the line in front I took both hands off the wheel for the full Henman.

All the time I was very aware of Iain just behind who'd take advantage of any slight mistake.

Infineon's never been one of my good tracks.  My aim was to get round and other than a couple of careless spins I managed that.  Top ten was a secondary aim and 9th was a bonus.  All I need now is a little pace.

What a great battle for 9th.  I haven't enjoyed a sim race like that for many a long year, since UKGPL indeed.

It's good to be back. :)

Where do I register my team name?  I am of course racing for Epicurie Banana, the original and still amazingly the only racing team run by a stuffed Gorilla...

Paul
:)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 03, 2010, 07:36:08 AM +0000
Where do I register my team name?  I am of course racing for Epicurie Banana, the original and still amazingly the only racing team run by a stuffed Gorilla...

There's a stickied thread in the announcements forum (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=2.0).


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 03, 2010, 07:44:33 AM +0000
Shark, regarding the car jumping anomaly you reported over TS, the latest build states:
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Fixed a bug in track surface collision detection that was causing cars to spin and flip.

So that explains it.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 03, 2010, 07:55:31 AM +0000
Where do I register my team name?  I am of course racing for Epicurie Banana, the original and still amazingly the only racing team run by a stuffed Gorilla...

There's a stickied thread in the announcements forum (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=2.0).
Cheers Dave.  Done.

Does it only show on future race results?


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 03, 2010, 08:47:42 AM +0000
Shark, regarding the car jumping anomaly you reported over TS, the latest build states:
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Fixed a bug in track surface collision detection that was causing cars to spin and flip.

So that explains it.

That might explain that one time I was driving in a straight line and the car went sideways for no reason. Not one of the times I went off I might add as I caught it.

You on the other hand were blinking on and off anyway and leaping into the air seemingly always in that downhill left hander before the back straight every lap.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Paul968 on February 03, 2010, 08:50:57 AM +0000
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Also what's with the spotter and fuel usage. With about 3 laps to go he tells me I only have enough fuel for 5 laps, then on the last lap after that long downhill left the engine is coughing and spluttering and it's obvious I'm running out of fuel.

All the cars in iRacing will start spluttering when the fuel level gets below a certain point (0.3 gallons?). I think that this is fixed, so as the skippy sips fuel this level equates to more laps than in the larger cars. You need to take this into account if you want to avoid spluttering.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: picnic on February 03, 2010, 09:07:03 AM +0000
Another well simulated feature carefully modelled to iRacing's high standards then :-\


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: spanner on February 03, 2010, 09:57:22 AM +0000
Interesting race that even if it did drag on a bit, must be due to so many corners. Not managed a complete lap before so wanted to get on early and just keep going round trying to learn it. Ended up trying various setups options. I tried softening  it up, but didnt feel it helped so went back to slightly edgier setup with a 6 rear-arb and 6 offset on the front. Though in hindsight was probably my downfall as though early on it felt nice if a bit oversterry it was controlable, but as the race progressed that righthander after the top of the hill was a nightmare with the rears spinning too much. Tried Dave's shared setup which felt pretty understeery intially but was still pretty wild through the faster stuff.

Didnt really agree with your defence Rob through that top chicane but hey.

The skippy engine definately feels more 'torquey' with the new build as the final hairpin was always tricky either in 1st, 2nd or 3rd!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 03, 2010, 10:16:45 AM +0000
Does it only show on future race results?

Yes, though in this specific case I might be persuaded to go back and fiddle this one result.

You might want to read this topic (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4098.0) as well...


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Paul Richards on February 03, 2010, 11:01:35 AM +0000
Due to the Rolex race and getting mucho practice in the Dallara at Road America for the DWC I had done exactly 0 laps with the skippy in the new build. I managed to get on just after 7:30 and thought with all my experience of car and track I should get used to any changes. With the DP it was a bit more throttle control and a few tweaks to the setup so didnt expect it to need too much.

Well how wrong was I! I couldn't get anywhere near the limit, it was either stay well under it or go over it in a big way and crash. I find with the skippy you need just the right amount of speed and throttle so that the rear is rotating but you are not at the point of making oversteer corrections as it bogs down too much. I was miles away from that and with the constant spins wasn't actually getting many full laps in to experiment. Setup tweaks to my normal setup didnt seem to help and being called away for a baby sick incident with 20 mins to go didnt help either! Gave up and got Darrens setup which he was doing high 47s with so I knew it was capable.

For qual it was certainly better but I crashed twice while on pretty good laps. Eventually got a lap in towards the end but I think I was overdriving to some extent and set 1.48.4 giving me 8th on the grid. Put in my usual amount of fuel which is always well on the safe side and went into the race just to relax and see what happened and enjoy racing with others rather than Paul and Brian primarily.

Was taking it nice and steady at the start and everyone was great in the opening laps and also very fast. I was having to push quite hard to stay with Ian in the first 2 laps. On lap 3 I think Simmo lost it on the exit of the double right hander at the top of the drag strip so up to 7th. I was beginning to get a feel for the car and was closing in on Ian before dropping back a bit in the final corner. To my surprise that lap was a 1.48.0 and at the start of lap 4 had closed in behind Ian in the first section. With simmo gone there was quite a big gap so as I was finding pace I was looking to challenge Ian. He got a slight slide in T10 and I probably took it the best I had done all evening and got a good run into the final hairpin. Braked just after Ian and got the car slowed down ok. The fronts weren't locked but must have been scrubbing as I turned in and the car went straight. Never had turn in understeer in the skippy so that might be that with with the new throttle mapping I was using much more under brakes than normal so countering oversteer actually made it go too far the other way. Tried all I could to keep it off Ian but gave him a slight nudge for a 0x contact pushing him wide for a clumsy pass. Very sorry mate I hold myself to much higher standards than that. Then both Ian and Bernie who was behind us all the time suddenly dissapeared so I guess something had happened on the next lap. Very sorry Ian.

Was now finding good pace and was in the 47s quite consistantly. I caught Mike who then ran wide on the exit of the long downhill left and his loss of momentum up the hill allowed me to get alongside and make the pass into the double right hander at the top of the drag strip. I was now up to 5th and was beginning to close a little on Darren ahead of me then he went off so I began to chase Gary. Paul H then spun so up to 3rd. Was chasing Gary and noticed that Mike had dropped back quite a lot. Was pushign as hard as I could and had closed in to just over 2 seconds behind. I then got a huge tank slapper in T10, somehow I didn't spin but thought I was pushing my luck a little too much and with dropping back out to 4 seconds behind Gary I decided to take it easy. With 3 laps to go I got the 5 lap warrning massage! I started short shiftind as I new it would be tight to spluttering on the last lap. Luckily it was ok and lasted until T1 on the warm down lap  :o

Overall was chuffed to come out of that with a podium in end but still not happy with my pass on Ian to be honest  :-[

Congrats To Brian and Gary for their great races.



Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Paul Thurston on February 03, 2010, 11:42:39 AM +0000
Does it only show on future race results?

Yes, though in this specific case I might be persuaded to go back and fiddle this one result.

You might want to read this topic (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4098.0) as well...
Dave mate, you are legend.  ;D

History migrated too.  Good site this.

Paul
:)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: popabawa on February 03, 2010, 12:45:13 PM +0000
Dave mate, you are legend.  ;D

In his dreams... ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Truetom on February 03, 2010, 01:18:37 PM +0000
 :thumbup2:


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Adam Parle on February 03, 2010, 01:38:46 PM +0000
Dreams?  DG a Legend?  That is truly the stuff of nighmares.

:D


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Simon Gymer on February 03, 2010, 01:45:34 PM +0000
I was about to say "count yourselves lucky", but then I remembered Jonzo drives for the Legends. :angel: ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 03, 2010, 01:50:26 PM +0000
Dreams?  DG a Legend?  That is truly the stuff of nighmares.

He speaks the truth. Better Oldie than Leg End! :P :P :P


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Burtoner on February 03, 2010, 02:18:30 PM +0000
did someone do something to forum then?, the png and gtr2 threads are seperate!  :laugh:


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on February 03, 2010, 02:20:25 PM +0000
did someone do something to forum then?, the png and gtr2 threads are seperate!  :laugh:

:whistling: ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: ginsters sponsored on February 03, 2010, 05:21:32 PM +0000
Very sorry mate I hold myself to much higher standards than that. Then both Ian and Bernie who was behind us all the time suddenly dissapeared so I guess something had happened on the next lap. Very sorry Ian.

Cheers Paul, much appreciated. By the way, I wasn't having a dig at your or Bernie especially, more expressing a general dissapointment in how iR racing has gone so far for me. I would plead for a little more caution, as mentioned earlier this sim is a real test, than I've witnessed so far from all. Or, at least those around me ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 2 Skippy - Infineon Raceway (Long) - Feb 2
Post by: picnic on February 03, 2010, 09:37:59 PM +0000
Think I've worked out tonight why I struggle so much sometimes with the steering. The game seems to lose wheel calibration between sessions on occasions so rather than using 900° of steering it seems to change to about 300. I've not been using the Wingman Profiler thing but I think I will in future. Good news is I now know why I sometimes struggle so much.