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All members are welcome as Season 12's big boys vie for the title of Italian Stallion.

Practice 1:	20:00	(10 mins)
Qual 2:	20:10	(20 mins)
Race:	20:30	(80 mins)	note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: Any GT1 or GT2 from the v2.12.0.0 pack (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics)).
Weather: dry.
Track: UKGTR Monza 2004 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_trackpack) as part of the UKGTR Track Pack v1.2.0.1).
If you have Track Pack v1.2 installed you will be able to join without problems.
Race Start Time: 14:00.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR U12UE
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=241;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack and track (see links above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.

A poor track for the MC12 but what the heck. Genuinely mildly excited by season ahead :)

Didn't you say you'll stay away from MC12 sbg? ;)
I'll take C6R for a ride. :)

Shark and I will miss this one 'cause it's our Grandad's birthday - he'll be twenty one and a half. ;)

Nice for an 86 year old to be able to say they're 21 ;D

I think I'll break out the DBR9 for this, see how it goes.

Can't be worse than last nights effort!  :D

That's me in the Lambo for this race. See if I can find anyone else's slipstream to stick to on the straights :laugh:

I'm in GT2's this season in the new M3 and oh dear we are at Monza :( Never a nice combo. I'll be crashing out somewhere between lap 15 and 21 ;D

I saw you in the MC12 last season and thought I must try that again. Can't tempt to use it again? It's an Italian track, do as the Romans and all that  :)

Not one of my best tracks and i'm yet to even try any of the cars out. Going to be a tough season for sure!

If I'm here I'll try the Marcos. Not one of my best tracks by far.

Off skiing so will miss this one

Vancouver?

I use the term skiing loosely... more like strapping my feet to planks of wood & flapping my arms lots as I slowly fall down the mountain :laugh:

Needless to say though.... I'll be beating Lazlow to the bottom ;D ;D ;D

That's the best skiing definition I've heard in years. ;D

i thought Eddie the eagle had retired  ;D

Not sure if i can make this one, got a mates birthday this weekend and its always messy. Will try though never a fan of Monza.

Sadly, the MC12 is just too slow around here in my hands. I'm almost 2 second a laps quicker in the wheezy Lister and it feels like an armchair ride in comparison. May go with something else and swap to the MC12 later but am loathed to swap cars during the season. There is an option in GT2 that quite takes my fancy :)

Yes, I'm sad to lose another GT2 Season. :( Wanted to go GT1 / GT2 but the combination was made the other way. :-\ GTC is also interesting, never had the privilege to ride Z4M before. Must add: I feel better here than elsewhere. ;)

The Team Psuedo mechanics have been working double time to get the Pseudo Lambo back on track after Enna. Boy, did it ever take a beating. ;D


I went skiing a few times when I were but a wee lad. I loved the experience of being up in the Mountains. There is nothing quite like it. Watching the winter Olympics has brought it all back. Have fun. :)

I've been really struggling to get any enthusiasm for any racing at the moment due to my sudden impending (lack of) work situation this week but i am hoping to run this on sunday. Was hoping to jump on for some practise last night but someone hadn't started the server ???

Is someone more distinct than noone?  ;D

Looked just now and it appears to have been restarted after last nights P&G race at 10 something. It will have been stopped during the event as is our standard practice for all official races.

You have my sympathy, hopefully a good race will take your mind off it for a mo at least. The server was running straight after PnG race for me.

With my MC12 idea canned, I am tempted to join Tudor in the GT2 Bi-tty. Its different and certainly a good fun challenge, anybody else fancy a Bi-tty championship within the serious one? It's very good at Monza but stinks to high heaven through the rest of the season  :)

Well, I'll defo try out the C6R this season - it was long overdue. Sorry C6R, don't be offeneded, my dear. :D

You know when you're down the pub with a few mates and you have what you think is a fantastic idea. ;D I've already started writing my post race excuses. ::)

Lol I give you my Marcos setups and you immediatly switch to the C6R ;)

Had a few laps here to refresh myself this afternoon. The cut track penalties are harsher than ever on the UKGTR version of the track, i can see lots of people getting stop/go's on sunday. I'm finding it hard to get a good balance on the brakes in most of the cars too so i may take the conservative approach for the race and see how it goes!

Hehe, love the Marcos and will come back. Will try your setup to see if / how I missed 5 seconds per lap. :P
Thanks again. :)

What is the weather going to be doing for this one? Had my last practice tonight and i could only guess at what conditions will be like!

All things considered I think it better be dry. Some people will have a hard enough time not cutting the corners without rain! :P

I have raced Monza in the rain before and it is very tricky. It required a lot of practice...

Seems like if i am reading the weather properly we have a good chance of at least some rain for tonights race? If thats the case then the results table will be nicely shaken up because like you said avoiding cut track penalties with constantly changing conditions is going to be really tough. But hey, i'm up for the challenge!  ;D

I have raced Monza in the rain before and it is very tricky. It required a lot of practice...

Seems like if i am reading the weather properly we have a good chance of at least some rain for tonights race? If thats the case then the results table will be nicely shaken up because like you said avoiding cut track penalties with constantly changing conditions is going to be really tough. But hey, i'm up for the challenge!  ;D
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i hope i understand this correct, i think it is no chance of rain, in first letter i do read: wheather: DRY
i hope this is correct? i had only done only a few laps and all of them in dry and i got many many cutwarnings ???
if there is rain, i will be totaly slow, no time for practise in rain (and no motivation too ;D), i have a 2nd race tonight in R2P and i had done no practise for this race too.
if i can do constant 1.42.high/1.43 racelaps without getting a stop/go penalty, then i will be more then happy :)  (but i think i will be more then 1xtime in my pitbox tonight :'()

Whoops i was reading the weather forecast for Monza and presumed we were switching back to variable weather. But yes Berger the first post says dry so i was wrong  8)

I can't make the race tonight have a great race everyone, should see you at the next one.

Yer, Lambo is not fixed from Enna yet. (Lazy mechanics). I will be in the Viper for tonight instead. :whistling:

I can only see standard cars when I try to join the server?

No time to do a proper setup, car  too tail happy for me, braked early yet still managed to tap Lee into 1st chicane, sorry for that.
didn't fancy another hour of am ill handing car so quit.

Was running ok in the Aston, got to 8th, staying out of trouble, until I hit a spinning fezza and broke suspension. Oh well, if it's not one thing it's another. See you all next week.

Where can I see what's been changed from S11 to S12 on the cars? Somebody made a winning car the butt of a joke. >:(

Surprised myself in Quali, didn't expect 6th (was sitting happily in 5th until FreQ jumped ahead right at the end!) - my practice was pretty poor, so I was quite chuffed.

After last weeks debacle, I decided to go for 2 stops, to ensure I was always on good tyres and not too heavy on fuel, I was pretty sure this would be the most efficient way for me to run the race. So I had 20 mins of fuel on board, which I managed to extend to 25/30 minutes 'cause of our starting procedure. I figured I'd be able to run the rest of the race without a 2nd stop after that so put Mediums on all round to allow me to do that.

Only, I forgot to adjut my fuel, so I had fuel for about 40 minutes of driving for a ~55 minute stint! So that last large section of the race became an economy drive for me, managed to work my way back up to 6th and was cutting it really fine with fuel on the last 3/4 laps, had to go really slow and lost a place, and ran out of Fuel coming out of Ascari on the last lap, made it round Parabolica and 2/3rds of the way to the S/F line before I came to a halt. Everbody behind me was a lap down though, so I was able to keep my finishing position!

Banter, good fun that was - had some good close racing with folks too - cheers to those who I was side-by-side with into whatever corners, always kept clean - very good fun!

Apologies to Truetom though, I think I may have swerved across the track in front of him between the Lesmos as I had my own little moment having just lapped him!

not my race this was :'(

quali i did not good again, like last week, but 2nd place was good, ruskus was very fast.
start i did not good and jayblue did overtake me, but a lister (freq) did overteke me too and i come to much in outside and got my 1st cutwarning, in 2nd laps again in 1st corner i got my 2nd cutwarning and then a orange car which did overtake me come little out of track and if he did rejoin in track we did touch eachother only a little, BUT i got a aerodamage.
so after 2 or 3 laps i kicked this race away, not good.
and the next problem is..in the aston, that if you have a aero damage you can not repair in pitbox, because then the pitbox repair the suspension? too, which cost 95 sec. extra. so i did drive complete race with aerodamage and 2 cutwarings.
but after any laps i come in good rhytmn and my laptimes was ok, i was very concentrate not to make a 3rd cut. i did close the gap to freq step by step and if he did his early pitstop i was only 1 sec. behind.
then i did lonely race, after my pitbox i come in front of freq out and i was in save 3rd place, laptimes was ok, but then i did totaly out of rhythmn after i did calculate, and it was so so so much difficulty to calculate if ruskus do cross the line in lap45 before the timecounter go to 0 sec., (after ruskus slow pacelap in start i was sure it will be only 45laps, ruskus was simply to fast), then i loose rhythmn, i did i xd change to no tyre change and 5 litres of fuel, for a quick fuelneed, if needed, and suddently i got 3rd cutwarning, no no no, short before end of race, i was down so much after this hard race.
so i did make stop/go and freq did overtake me and i was 4th.
good that ruskus did not 46laps, then i had to do another pit.

congrats to the winners and podiums.

All going ok until just before my stop when I let through a GT1 car and outbreaked myself into Para. Went downhill from there really with a couple of offs which cost about 3 mins in the pits for repairs and a stop/go for speeding ::) All this to give me an ill handling car for the rest of the race.

I still find these enduros so tough, especially in the quicker classes. Just glad to finish and almost embarrassed to walk away with a few team points after this.

Congrats to both class winners and podies 8)

Nice race. ;D

I had a good fight with David M early on and I am well chuffed that I did not get a stop and go. The corner cutting is spot on, the track is a joke without it.

After David M fell back a bit, I did not have anyone to race. In the end I just concentrated on maintaining the gap behind me.

Well done podiums. :)

See you all next race.

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20100228%20U12UE/index.html)

Bit of a low turnout in GT2, hope it pick ups a tad. Much better choice/fun to be had here over GT3 :)

The Bi-tty did have an advantage here and I'm delighted to ram it home. Unless we are at Monza every week I can't see it up front for long but it should be fun trying to hang on :) Has 5kg extra really scuppered the 430 TT? I hope so :) or maybe its just a Monza thing?   

GT1 gents were excellent and congrats to the winners there. Glad to see the connection held out Bob, no need to talk about it in quali next time ;)

I had a full day today and some unexpected stuff meant I had little practise time....my fault for not practising earlier in the week. I was pretty happy to get 4th on the grid.

The start was the best bit for me....I thought I'd gone the wrong way by going to the outside at T1 but I think Berger was held up and I managed to hold round the outside so I had the inside line for the second part of the chicane...up to 3rd!  8) 8)

I was surprised to pull a little gap on him after that (his aero damage) but I couldn't stay with Jayblue and Ruskus....despite running softs.

Thought I'd be getting 4th so was very fortunate to inherit 3rd - more than I could hope for with my current pace. I'm hoping with more practise I'll be able to challenge next time round! GR peeps

Quick query for those in charge:

I was running 6th and lost 1 place on the last lap of 'my' race to gsi bob and it looks like the race stats are showing me as 6th, but in the stats at the top of this thread and the championship page I'm down as 7th...is that 'cause I hit Escape and didn't cross the line on my last lap?

planned to race ,but then i saw fixed dry weather,when a giant storm was raging over europe  ??? ???,to boring for me,maybe next time  >:(

Jan

Well, I had no chance against any of the GT2 cars either on straights, braking or exit and not even in slipstream. :( I had 3 wing.
If it stays this way through the next two races then the car will be clearly an S12 failure. :-X

Qualified 18th of 20 drivers and didn't overtake anyone. Pits were lightning quick, I leapfrogged Purdie and gained almost 10 seconds on Spanner, then couldn't hold him. After contact with David (np, my friend :)) I was just cruising on as I wasn't gaining anything and could lose even the measly 14th. :(  Too bad Andy quit and MJ was missing. :-\

Yes - if you go down as DNF you'll be scored behind anyone who didn't and completed the same number of laps.

David run of out fuel - what's to be done, then? Stay on track until server ends the session?

Difficult race last night, lack of time meant I made a decision on which car to take at 8:05 when I joined the server! Done one or 2 fun races in a 911 but the only time I campaigned one was back with the original GTR. No setup and no practice meant I was tail end charlie. I did my qualifying with race fuel so come the race I was able to keep up and pressure JPV who was giving TT a hard time. Sadly JPV got over the curbs on the exit of Lesmo 2 and the resultand slide slowed him had him careering sildes across the track and I could quite avoid the wayward BMW :(

Managed to catch TT after but frequent mistakes, usually spinning in to the chicane before the Lesmos, meant I lost ground. Happy to see that my quickest race lap was only 0.5 sec behind API and Purdie's but I need to find a working setup and better consistency. I think my team mates on TeamSpeak were getting fed up of me saying how hard the car was to keep in a straight line. I now understand what you guys were moaning about months ago.

Put enough fuel in. ;)

Wanna try it in the wet? :P

Pretty pleased with that, 3rd in class 8) Though during qually it looked like i was going to be right at the back.
Never finished a race here ever but i must have managed to calm down and relax enough this time to finally manage it. Good race early on with Purdie and Goldtop but Purdie disappeared rather quickly and Goldtop was just too fast down the straights for me to do anything. Surprised to slowly pull away from TT but i wonder if you were just too slow through the corners with that wing level, I was running 2-7. Came out after the stop and saw TT was about 70secs up the road and Purds about 90sec so instantly thought they had jumped me as i my stop was a bout 47secs and that was with the normal fuel and tyres having split the fuel equally again. So i was rather surprised to have both TT and Purdie come out behind and with Purdies pace was going to struggle towards the end but then saw  he wasnt gaining at all!


Bit of a worry late on as i couldnt see D Milne's car so couldnt really work out where he was when lapping me.

Oh and who was to blame for taking out the marker boards at the second lesmo during qually? Cause they never came back for the race ???

I have never been entirely comfortable with Monza and this continued last night. During quali i was unable to find any kind of a groove and was lucky to be third. At the start i was able to overtake a cautious Berger on the outside before the first chicane and even have a little look at Ruskus. Leaving the first chicane i saw the amazing speed of the Marcos and from that point on i knew overtaking for the lead was impossible!

I was able to stay with Ruskus for most of the opening stint but i was never in a position to have a challenge, the Marcos was around six tenths quicker on the pit straight than the Aston, that says it all! Toward the end of the stint Ruskus pulled out a five second gap with some great pace. I had already picked up two cut warnings by now so i was being extra careful and lost some rythmn at this point. Ruskus made an early stop and my strategy was originally to double stint my tyres, a move that would have bought me out of the pits in the lead, but as i knew defending against a car so much quicker on the straight would be impossible i decided to change tyres and play it safe rather than risk it all and probably get a stop/go for cutting.

I found some of that elusive pace in my second stint and posted a laptime around a tenth off Ruskus' best, a result i was happy with considering the gap in quali was around a second. Second was a great result here for me, congrats to Ruskus and SBG on their commanding wins! And Freq on third in GT1.

I'll be back for the next one & will show ya how to drive that f430  :P ;)

Grats Gingsters and Jeffery  :)

Great being back in the 997 RSR, I concentrated mainly on race setup which a slight tweak from MJ's ideal enduro setup  ;)

Didn't have a quali setup and just bolted on softs, was useless and 1 sec off my pb from 30 mins before in practice  ::)

Starting 4th I had a fun tussle with Spanner where we both proved as stubborn as each other  ;) which turned out to be the highlight of the race. Had 100 L but soft meds, so it took a few laps to get going but I managed to work up to 2nd.

On my in-lap for my first pit-stop I got a stop/go for cutting so came out last from the pitstops. Not a problem, was on the tail of a trio of cars with TT in my sights ;) ...but.... it was irrelevant when I got a stop/go for the second time and it put me last, very last  ::)

Annoyed I would have got a podium but my own fault  :-X

Grats Ginstgers, the bi-turbo isn't simple to hussle round here regardless of straightline speed (I promise to be more competitive in future..... you must be bored of these recent victories! hehe)

One thing I did have dramas with last night was every time I tried to enter server with the Kerbcrawlers Aston, the game would shut down, but with the UKGTR version, it was fine, tried re-installing skin pack, no difference, is this a problem with any other skins?

erm, yes. :)

Thanks, buddy - looking forward to it. :-*

I got injuried playing football on Saturday, I wasn't able to get a decent sitting position with one leg on the pedals and the other one with a bandage on the chair lol should be up for next UE race though :)

Stay inside, X - there's a dangerous world out there. ;)