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Practice 1: 19:20 (~60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (17 laps (~50mins)) note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: Ford Mustang Trans Am - Vs - Alpine 1300

Weather: Dry
Track: UKGTR Potrero de los Funes v1.0.0.0 (download from here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54900#post_potrero)).
Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING

Minimum Pit-stops: None required.
Tyre wear: 2x
Fuel consumption: 2x



Server: UKPnG2.1 S2 Single
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

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(6) Remember that P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function, but our gentleman's agreement is that everyone will stick to a speed limit for the pit-lane of 40mph/60kph.

You might have just seen the available cars & thought "That's an odd line up"... and you'd be right.

We've not done one like this before, it's going to be a bit of a 'tortoise & hare' type race.... but where the fastest Alpine+Mustang finish together (I hope).

Please pay extra attention to the race details for this one.

Very odd!

I thought this was a one make spec race series?

Much less time consuming if you just pick one chassis for us all to use Chris.

I expected the Lightweight E-Types to be honest.  'Cos they come in lots of different colours.

Where did you get that idea? ???

Shot's come in singles & doubles. Hence it's called "the shot glass challenge". If it was single spec racing, I'd have called it the "spec challenge" or smething.

Ah!

Now you come to mention it I do remember something about singles and doubles.  Sounds like a lot of work for you though.

Be careful you don't end up with a mickey finn!

Sounds like a really fun and cool race this one.  :)

I hope so PR, don't think we've tried something like this before... Hopefully it'll work ;D but we won't know till we try.

Effectively, if you choose the Stang you'll be quicker each lap but you will need to pit. The Alpine has no need to pit (though the Tyres will be shot by the end), so will effectively get left behind before taking the lead & hoping to cling on for long enough before the Mustang can catch up again!

Which means that will be a good challenge and a matter of strategy choice.
I like it, I like it!!!!!!  ;)

Mustang needs to pit? Is it 2X fuel?

Anyone would think I forgot to add this bit to the race announcement :whistling:
Yup, that's why the Mustang needs to pit.

Sounds like this could be a great Team event - especially if there is a spread of ability in each Team (maybe based on last seasons Token ability ratings).

Because of the need for a pit stop I prefer to drive the Mustang as it will give me a chance to take on some oxygen.  So if you decide to allocate people to Teams, Legzy, please keep this in mind.  Although I thoroughly enjoyed last nights race, 45 minutes non stop pushed me to the limit.

Laurie

No idea how much fun this will be but look forward to finding out. Anybody done a race length test of both yet?;)


That kind of event would be a blast I guess. I remember we did a similar two/three man team thing at Lemans, were we held some races and then added times of team mates together which worked well. Good bit of fun :)

Remind us of that idea closer to season end, could be the makings of a good fun race

I predict an all Renault Podium. (but I could be wrong  :-\)

I'm quicker in the Alpine than the stang which I suppose is to be expected. Might have to stop to redo my lippy though ;D

Track's 'orible and only tried the Mustang so far.  2:53 with the default setup.

EDIT:  I tried to do a 20min race last night on x4 fuel and tyres.  After five laps I came in for my stop and the silly game told me that I had won!

Lol can't agree with that Clive  :) There are some fiddly bits but there is a bit of everything which means I enjoy this track, especially during a quick go in the Stang. What a job you have pleasing us all Legzy (don't use the Elan and I'll be happy :) ).

Is the server the same settings as race? Sorry but I couldn't spot how to check that when I joined.

I think it's a great circuit. At first I was afraid, I was petrified, thinking I could never race this long, side by side. Oops had bit of an Oily moment then.

The server is set to actual race settings. Hope that's ok Legzy?

You can check by clicking on RULES after selecting the track.

Not my cup of tea either Clive. :no: :thumbdown:

Bill

PS.  Putting my practice efforts into driving the BMW CSL Turbo in Tuesday's GTL Race, that is much more fun than trying to drive a 21 turn event which is more like a tarmac rally stage.

I think it's a great track for the Alpina .... doing a 1.53.00 now. A pitstop with no change of tyres, just refueling for 6 laps will cost the mustang 30 seconds and another 15 to enteri and leave the pit ( at 80km/hour ) I wonder if the Mustang will be able to be gain almost 3 sec/lap on the Alpina?


Stig / Hotkeys

Hope this is a typo or I'm 1min 5sec off the pace   :hammer: :scooter:

Laurie

I really do hope that's a 2:53 or I'm giving up now!


As for the circuit, there is no need for a proper racing circuit to be any longer than about a 2 minute lap.  Anything else is suffering from Nurburg Syndrome and as Bill has said is actually a tarmac rally stage.

To make matters worse it has poxy chicanes with curbs that can be driven over!  Euk!!!!

BTW Was the server having a hissy fit last night?  It wouldn't run properly, moving one second burst.  The circuit was ok for me offline.

I admire a bloke that puts some thought/effort into working something like this out. Well done Stig.

I'm gutted I can't make this one. I love trying out new ideas & I think it's a cracking track for racing, worked really well in previous races I done here. While comparing this track (2:50 a lap) to Nords (11:30 a lap) is just stupid  ::) IMO. This track is like 3x the width the entire way round!

Had a few laps in the TransAm (great fun) best so far 2:50.6

......... oops should have been 2.53.09. The explanation i quite simpel: When I type, I have to be real quick about it, since I've got HOTKEYS  ;D ;D

How fast are the topguns here in the Alpina ?

Stig / Hotkeys

Done the rally section in 2:50.003 but still getting surprised by which corner comes next.

Perhaps I need my wife to read pace notes for me!

In the Alpina or the Mustang ?

Stig

I'm back guys!!!

Seems that my surgery operation is gone well! But I have to learn to drive with the keybord just to have some fun with you!
I'll try during these days if it's possible for my driving here and see if I'll be able to not be a danger for all of you. If I reach this target, I'll try to fight for the last position, and have some fun on the track... Let's see what happens with the keybord...
Cu soon on the server! Bye bye!

Well done Manteos.

You need the Nat Wald approach.  He used a Thrustmaster wheel with analogue paddles that he used for throttle and brake.  Never used his feet at all. 

I'm sorry to hear of your injury Manteos and I hope you recover soon.

Personally, I'd strongly advise against racing with a keyboard as your controller; you will be off pace and could be a danger to others. Clive's suggestion of using your wheel and assigning buttons for throttle/brake would be a much better idea, although changing gears would add to the difficulty. In this situation, I would persevere with trying to use your good foot for throttle and brake as this would surely be more immersive for you and is likely to be more effective.

Hope you are able to find a way to join us. At least this time I stand a chance of beating you ;D

Would it help if the Automatic Gearbox were available to you online?

Yep Tony! That will surely be helpful!
However to have an easier life I'll ask to some friends if they have a joypad to lend me...
That you suggest me is not practicable Clive :(... I've got to drive in a wrong position and I've even to keep my right foot up to let deflate my ankle... I should drive with the wheel on my legs, and it's not possible... at least for one month... When I'll be able to put down my right leg again on the floor... The rihabilitation will be long, in 2 month I'll be able to put my entire wheight on my right leg, and only after that event I'll start to do a lot of physiotherapy to recover the movement of articulation, the muscle tone and the balance.
I hope to return "as new" before the end of june, it will be a long walk...
However, I will try to see if it's possible to drive in a safe way with the keyboard, and if it won't be possible I 'll surely give up this race... but I strongly believe in myself!

OK, so purely for Manteos benefit the Auto gearbox option is on.

Might have a looksee at this event :)

Manteos,  your best bet is to see if any of your friends has a Thrustmaster steering wheel as they produce some where you can switch to paddles instead of pedals.   I have an old Thrustmaster Modena 360 and have never used pedals because after a few laps I get cramp.  Unfortunately they no longer make the Modena 360 I have and the one I use now was bought at a car boot sale.

Laurie

Great commitment Manteos, hope you find a way. Don't be too fast mind ;)


That'll be nice. You'll enjoy the Stang I bet.

Was gonna be my pick :).

But looking at the replies, the Stang is slower in 1 lap and needs to do a stop?

Nope, the Stang will be quicker but needs to stop.
It'll be a case of, can the Stangs build up enough of a gap to then pit, then catch up & get past the Alpines.
Hopefully we wont know the winner till they cross the line (as opposed to on lap 5 when someone has such a lead they'll only not win if they fall off).

Would be great to see you there Jeff (though sadly I'm missing it >:().

Only until you two get in it!  ::)

I'm totally confused now (no change there then). The Penelope Pitstop car is faster? What sort of times you gents/ladies getting in it? Its 2.47 in the Stang with a bit more to come for me.

Ginsters, if confused... just listen to my posts.


 ;)

Running wide on the exit of turns 2 and 19 sometimes triggers a corner cutting error but I can't figure out where the limit is.

Anyone got a clue?  I have sometimes run all four wheels onto the tarmac run-off area without a problem but just on a couple of occasions it comes up with the "Lap will not count" message.

I vaguely remember some strange controller combinations in ancient GPL days. One of the original aliens
Greger Huttu, Roland Enstrohm or Achim TRenz perhaps, used to use a joystick with pedals.
Perhaps if you have a joystick with large enough movement it might be an option? use the fire buttons
for throttle and brake, set the steering to a low angle. Will take some practice, but that doesn't sound
an issue for you.
p.s how did the exams go?

I would like to see forced cockpit view, I was surprised how many quick people complained when I once hosted
a race with forced cockpit assuming that's what everyone used. It was never quiet thought of as cheating in GPL
leagues, but F10 was considered to be "unsporting"
People make a fuss about "realism" yet many use top down view!  :o

Did a few laps on line with Stig the other night, can't remember times, but after some practice I managed to get the
Mustang round a second or so faster than his Renault, not enough to build up a lead for me.
with my rubbish pit stop performance I might try Le Alpine.
I love this track BTW, we raced GTR2 here once, a couple of awkward bits but mostly a good track IMHO.

I'm new here, so I need to ask this:

If the games allows you to cut a corner ( no warning ) or to go wide in turn 2 as described by Clive, will it then be OK to do so?


Stig / Hotkeys

Have you read - https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.msg65152#msg65152

A bit vague perhaps. In reality the occasional wheel over a kerb will not get the Kerb Police after you
but constant two wheels over will. I once got disqualified for repeatedly putting two wheels over what I considered
to be painted areas but were actually rated as proper kerbs.

I'll let the moderators give you the official line, if different.

I wouldn't, it makes me feel ill!

I use the bonnet view and actually find this more realistic than having all that furniture leaping about in front of me.  Not sure what top-down view is.

The F10 view in GPL is not encouraged and perhaps top-down is similar?.  For those who don't know of it, F10 or "Chase View" is a view as if you were paragliding 15ft behind the car.  Not very immersive and what's more, you lost the mirrors.  You can't race effectively without knowing what is behind you and some that I knew of that used it acknowledged that they just had to leap out of the way of anything that appeared alongside.

I used to have a button mapped onto my wheel that let me switch to F10 to see who, if anyone, was alongside.  Very useful on the run to the first corner.  The alternative of using the look-left/right function was a certain accident for me, as it is in PnG, because my hands react to the change of view and I steer straight off the track!

Bonnet view? not tried that. Anyways, before I start a riot of indignant racers, I think people can/should use whatever
is in the game, just "I Think" anything other than cockpit view is contrary to realism, just my humble opinion.

Wow, I always assumed everyone chose cockpit view. Can't imagine racing any other way.

I do turn off the steering wheel as it looks too cartoon like and is extremely offputting. Why anyone would want to see a wheel and arms when they have a wheel and presumably 2 perfectly good arms is beyond me ???

2:51 in the Alpine after half a dozen laps. Being able to drive good flowing lines with momentum is vital here for a good laptime in the Alpine. I reckon it will struggle on a busy track which will put the stangs at an advantage. Should be a very interesting race :)

Well done GT :thumbup1: Like I said before, this race result won't be known till the winner crosses the line! So much will depend on how many people pick which car, who's holding up who that's driving the same car & then how how long it'll take the Stangs to get through traffic!

There's kind of two questions in this race:
1) Can you beat the other drivers of your car?
2) Will that be enough to beat the other car model?

I hope it works, because it feels to me like it has potential to be seen again 8)

Just did some laps but setup still sucks, but low 2:48 so far which should go down by 2 seconds I hope.

2:49.something strapped to the bonnet of the Renault.  ::)

2:51.6 Firmly seated inside the Mustang and 2:53.9 again inside the Renault.
BTW "if" anyone gets the entry badly wrong into the nasty tight chicane where the red barrels are - do not get into
the light blue Argentinian magic quicksand on the very inside. You will not escape MUHAHAHAHAHA
I think someone did on GTR2 and was not best pleased to have to sit there unable to get out.
It eventually disolves and digests your car and it's contents for dinner.

I sort of agree that the bonnet view is maybe the most realistic view available, but how on earth do you know what the car is doing?! When I tried it I just couldn't judge whether I was sliding or not without some part of the car being visible to gauge it's position in relation to the world around it.

I am actually gob smacked  :o :o :o that anyone would use any other view but cockpit. I thought this was sim racing not NFS!

I'm with you on this one!

 :yes: :thumbup1:

Bill

Lol so its not simracing if you're not in cockpit view ;) I race in nose view here simply cause I prefer it and cockpit view at MARA where it is enforced. Its not something that keeps me awake at night but I am miles faster in cockpit view.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/Pelle79/driving-positions.jpg)

(Seriously, my times are identical in both)

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Where can I buy those attachments to fit on the back?

1:54... mutter mutter...with keyboard.. mutter mutter.. lying on a bed...gnash gnash.   :o  :laugh:

So after all these years I found I'm not a SIM racing driver.  ::) At least in GTL.
I can't explain why, but I drive in bonnet view only in GTL.
At rFactor, GTRevo/Race On, GTR2, P&G, TDU, GPL I drive in cockpit view tho.

I like this track!
Better than Charade for close race and even better than Nordscheleavemealone.
Wide enough for some close racing and mistake recovering.

crapola i havent even done a single lap here yet, not had a chance. :( Hopefully get some laps in tomorrow eve but will be a rush job.

bonnet view sucks by the way  ;) real racers use cockpit view 8) Im sure we could all drive more accurately if we sat on the bonnet of our cars  ;D

Me stupid and have practiced on the 'normal' version instead of the UKGTR  :taz:

Are there any major differences?

I don't think so. I think it's just Dave fixing the timing on the track. You'll be fine.

Decisions, decisions with this. You're a swine Legzy :) Be on morrow night, with a beady eye on the times of others.

The speed limit in pits can't be policed in game but we shall all be expected to keep below 40 mph, right?

I don't look at the spedo in my street car. How do you expect me to do so in my race car? My real race car doesn't even have one. I don't have a clue how fast I'm going till I look at the log data after the race/session.

LOL

This is sounding very promising!  Seems like all the Mustangs can be disqualified straight after the race.  ;D

Back in the P&G era there were no such thing as pit speed limits, that's why they disabled them in-game. So realistically you should be able to go any speed you wish in the pits! :o

Tried the Alp & not quite under 2.50 yet (2.50.4), will give the Stang a go tonight before deciding on which car.

 
Agree.


 ;D

Point 6) in the notes of every ukpng race announcement tells you how fast you should be going in the pits.

I think we also used to state "1st gear only in the pit lane". That is the rule of thumb that I follow & expect from others. (yes I know the vetted can do a ton in 1st ;))

OK Legzy :thumbup1:

Extra advantage for the Alpine then. ;D

jumping online in a mo if anyone cares to join me  :)

Pheeeewwww... thnx!

Great track,  8) be awesome with some decent cars on it  ;)

Love the alpine as a car but its dull and out of place on a long circuit lap like this, which leaves the stang...oh lordy, ive never cracked driving that lump.

2:51's for me in the stang, was quite demoralising being on track same time as SBG, Mike and Ade with their rocket times  :-[  2:53 alpine.

1st time on this track as well. It is fantastic. Like MJ said, it would be even better with some real power house vehicles like the mighty L88 Vette.

Unless my eyes deceived me, Ian was on the server last night doing 2:45 in the Alpine.  At that rate he can stop for tea and sandwiches somewhere and still win.

Fantastic pace Ian.  :thumbup1:

Just spat me coffee out, no pressure then Clive ;) Anyways, I'm sure I will not be alone.

Before anyone panics, I was quicker in the Stang so the premise of this race stills stand.  There are so many imponderables here, the getting stuck behind a slower Stang nightmare, getting clattered by a teamy (hilarious race last night :) ) and the Ruskus/extreme alien factor to name a few, that I really hope anything can happen which would be fun.

LOL

Not to mention getting stuck behind a slower Alpine. :D

Whilst I think of it, with Legzy “on the piste”, who is going to tell us what to race next week at Lakeside.  And for that matter, what/where the hell is Lakeside?

Me from the airport lounge in 20 mins  ;D

You've got time to squeeze a quick legends race in there Chris! ;D

It's an Aussie track.  I've raced GTL here (Falcon and Alfa GTA) with my Antipodean colleagues and I'm pretty sure we've had a similar race here as well.

Bill

Queensland, Australia.  ;D


2.45s  :o, & I was misguided enough to think I might be competitive when I got into the 2.48s last night. Couldn't get on with the Mustang though, only 2.52 in that. How do you make it turn corners  ???


Edit: Bill beat me, doh!

I'll be one slow Stang you'll have to lap Ian  ::) - I'm currently down to 3:05 and practicing again when I leave here.  :yes:

Bill

Tbh, I have done only 2 laps to see how the track layout was and I'm pretty sure that
you all are a bunch of  :alien: for the times I see on the previous posts. And Mr. SBG
is the supreme Comander of you all.  :scared:

Tried lots of laps in both cars, Mustang is loads more fun here for me, but I am much the same times as you MJ
I can manage 51 in Stang and 53 in ALpine, have managed a 52 one off. I think I am missing something here
I am slower than normal against my peers, maybe people are not all running full fuel for testing? that or I am
just not hooking up to a corner or two. Logic says I should run ALpine as I am rubbish at pit stops, fun factor
says take the Tank.

Chortle: was that with one finger raised "Supreme Commander of the Asgard Fleet" PR?

Well said Matt. Exactly.  :shifty:

At roughly 2 seconds a lap off Ian's pace, I'm still learning the track. Very cool track, but it takes time to learn the braking points of all those corners.

Hi all!

Hope to join this race today. I read your encyclopedia of rules :blink:  and hope not to forget one of them later.
:death:

edit: the file front link in the track download section is linked to portimao

Hi Henry
Hope you manged to download the right track from Humyo ok?

As you may have gathered, tonights race is rather experimental in nature as my evil nemesis Dr Legzy  ;) has organised this cunning puzzler.

Who will win....the Trans Am with it's speed (but must pit at sometime) or the snail like Alpine which definately will not need to stop.

BTW Henry, we have the terrain patch ENABLED

sure i was on the server few minutes ago with santini.

btw. i know the answer ;D

awww crap, Got booted from PnG, think i didnt have the updated 2.1 patch since i reinstalled other night doh!

Oh well 20mins to download, will miss the race :/

yeah, this rac was an easter egg. no formation lap, lol


14 of 17 laps a nice race. thx all.
then of course only one person can destroy that all - my girlfriend >:(

@geoffer
hope i didn't block you in that difficult shikane. :(

WD podium and anyone who finished.

Still don't like the track and trying to race cars as different as these two is horrible.


PS  Please pass on my thanks to your girlfriend Henry.  She did a first class job there.  Did you actually have any wheels left?

had an okay race, nothing that exhilarating, just didnt find these cars that exciting on this great track. The mustang was fun but should have been pitted against a similar car not a flipping Alpine.

Qualied lowly 16th in the popular Renault  :(

Got off to decent start in race making up a few places, until about 4 corners round until some idiot tried to bulldoze through the apexs knocking me flying off track and down to last  >:(

Got hit 6 times tonight by 5 different drivers. One was partly my own fault when i got out of shape in the double hairpin but the others were either from behind or being cut up into the wall by desperate defending.
Best racing of the night for me was against Alex vw who raced close and clean with no contact, unlike a few others nearby. Will watch the replay later and make some reports.

My aim was a top 10 finish as hadnt had much chance for praccy and everyone seemed very competitive here. Got 10th so fine with that  :) but could have been higher if not knocked off so many times.  :taz:

Well done Mike and Ian up top with amazing pace as they spur each other on again!!  8)

Inquiring minds need to know what your girlfriend was doing to disturb you so....  ::)

Good fun race, as I expected I could barely keep up with the mid to fast Alpines never mind pull out a pitstop's
worth of a gap, so no disappointment there, enjoyed chucking the big tank around, apart from the tight bit in
the cutting was a good track for it. Grats to Pody, and thanks to Manteos for letting me beat him by injuring his leg  ;D

Welcome Henry, cya next week :)

Undecided on the format. It does favour those with a bit more time available and those in bigger teams to colate any info. Ideally, you'd not gain anything from that but it must be nigh on impossible to find two cars that balance perfectly. Maybe, like the idea mentioned previously, have a two man team and plunk one each in fast/slow option?
However, thx for trying that as I had one of the best races tonight :) Me and Ade came together on T2 even though we tried our best to avoid it and I returned the favour later, sorry mate ::) (we'll both be called in to see Paul in the morning). Had brilliant fun coming through the field though, had to be more forceful than normal but hope I didn't upset anyone. Standards were again excellent and its so rare to have complete confidence in all you race, even those  racing with a joystick :o (brilliant effort Manteos).

Congrats to JR who drove the wheels off the Stang. Realise it wasn't quite right this time but hope we see you some more and it'll be normal service resumed next week I'm sure. Well done to Mike for sticking with the Penelope Pitstop car, bet you enjoyed it in the end or maybe not ;)  

Sorry , one was mine when i missed the breaking point after s/f midrace. >:(

First lap was rubbish where I got involved in 2 accidents. Have to watch replay to see if it was my fault or not.
After that it was a nice race, apart from hitting Mark.

Had some nice battle to the flag with teammate Alex.
Finally made it to the end of the race this season after 2 early retirements.

Replay and Results now posted

I really enjoyed the challenging track. I'm still learning the braking points; especially those while turning left in preperation for a right. I still don't have the track down yet. Like others have said, I'd really like to run this track again with some bigger horsepower cars. I rather disliked the Alpine, but I knew without a doubt it was the winning car on this track. All the pit experience with R2P has taught me that time in the pits is the death of your race.

I qualified where I expected, but didn't expect to be gifted 2nd right off the bat. If Ian didn't have his misfortune I think he would have won easily. Still, it must have been a heroic drive to claw back up to 2nd. Ruskus had incredible pace in the Mustang, but was fighting an uphill battle. Evidence of this is all the Alpines lined up right behind him in the finishing order.

By the 3rd lap, I found a nice hole with nobody around me so I could concentrate on clicking off clean laps. This was good because I knew the race would come to me once Ruskus pit. In time, I put in some decent laps and just snuck into the 2:46 territory.

Congrats to Ian and Madd for podium finishes and to Ruskus for wheeling that Mustang around so quickly.

The really imortant news, for me, is that I did a whole race without a screen shudder, lockup or anything else.

In addition to running EnditAll to close and kill everything it could, I then defragged the game folder and swapped to game mode with gamebooster(thanks ade).
Then vacuumed the cat and sacrificed a squirel.

But in addition I have turned the hardware acceleration on my sound card up to maximum and have now notched up half a dozen runs without incident.

Do you think it's safe to get back in the water?


PS   The sun shining smack in my eyes in the last two laps frightened the life out of me.  I thought that my GFX card was going belly up on me to start with!

ARGH...... was doing OK .... except for a small team rendevouz ( sorry I bumped you Dan, but how come Clive stopped ? ) and all off a sudden the wife comes flashing into the room yealling about some waterpipe beeing broke ... WATER ALL OVER THE PLACE STIG, LEAVE THE STUPID GAME AND FIX IT !§!!  ;D ::).

Fun while it lasted though, impressed by the topdrivers laptimes.

Stig / Hotkeys

You can kick me square in the (http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii60/oilyway/chrome-hex-nuts-1.jpg) for that one Ian  :-[  nice job getting yourself back up to 2nd  :o didn't go well for me.... went to pit in and skidded out of the pit lane and ended with half my car back on track ,sorry to whoever it was i scared :-[ on top of that my pit crew didn't bother to put any fuel in ??? doesn't the pit strategy thing work in advanced setup???? so after another pit i was dead last i think.

                                                           On to forget for me
                                                               Cheers Ade

What can I say, most unbalanced grid ever ;). Shame too many take the easy option instead of giving themselve a challenge.  :hammer: .

No idea where I had to win 25 seconds of fuel and 15 seconds of tyres, added with the slow pitlane speed :P.

Car was a blast to drive/drift, except for those horrible 1st gear corners.

Fair to say that was not my best race tonight. Had a good start, but lost it on lap 1 under braking into the big chicane. Waited for everyone to pass, or so I thought, but managed to rejoin right in front of MJ who did well to avoid me (at least I don't think there was contact). Apologies anyway for that MJ :-[. That was the story of my race really; had ok pace, but just kept making too many mistakes. At one point I oversteered into the pitlane when trying to get a run on Alex into the s/f straight and had to drive through rather than risk a dq for manoevring my way out :wetfish:

Had some nice battles with Tony, MJ, Alex and right at the end FMG who caught and passed me in his stang, just as Legzy had planned it 8) We had a great couple of laps to the flag.

Well done to pody; another great result for us kerbies and well done all those who went for the stang and added the extra dimension to this race.

Calling SeniorDan. Can you fill in your location details so that we can have a little flag next to your name in the results table please?

yes this work, but you have to notice two things:
1. stop the engine
2. be carefull with your position, if you don't stay exactly on the right place, the pitcrew don't start their work and they won't start if you adjust it. another pitstop is the only way

@ruskus
it's not necessary to change tires. png is oldscool. you can drive with them until the death end. ignore the tire wear display. the only thing you have to check is the temperature. if you overheat them, just take it easy for a while and let them cool down.

GTR2XD Showed a wear of around 30 which they felt like and times were getting slower, so tyres were definatly a must, as normally above 36 wear they can pop :P

I didn't have much time for practicing this week so went for the Alpine, the safe option.

I was lucky early on in the race, I missed most of the mayhem and made up a few places. Most of the race was pretty uneventful, I was trying to be consistent and not make any silly mistakes.

During the last few laps MJ was closing in on me, despite a PB on the 3rd last lap he passed me on the start/finish straight, but I got on the outside of T2 and just managed to hold him off for the rest of the last lap.  :)

I enjoyed the track, with lots of fast bends it is the kind of track I enjoy. Hope we can race here again in some quicker cars.

Tires were a must for Ruskus. I was gaining on him 2 laps before the pit. I knew his tires were shot.

I enjoyed last nights race, particularly during the first few laps when Bill and I battled away.  Hope I wasn't anything to do with your retirement Bill.

Grats to the podium and thanks to the "overtakers" for being considerate to us 'slower' types.

Laurie

Bit dissappointed I couldn't match the lap times I had been doing in practice but race was fun until I binned it  :(. Bogged it off the line & lost several places & then got into a great scrap with Clive, Henry & SeniorDan. We were soon caught by the recovering Ade & Ian who also briefly enlivened things. Managed to break away with Ian & Ade but unfortunately bumped Ade into a spin  :'( & had to do all the work again.

Caught up with Clive & Henry again & resumed our battle only to clip the wall at one of the fast rights & spin into the wall the other side of the track. Result, dead engine, so that was the end of my race. :(

Really liked the track & hope we can race here again in future.

Congrats to the podium (Kerbies 1-2 again).

Cya all at Lakeside.

All the fun was with T. Muttram and API. I forgot how many times T.M. and I swapped positions.
Again, one hell of a nice and clean fight. Well done to both.

By the way, is there any Alpine with a 2000 cc turbocharged engine?  :P

Congrats to the podium.

Hats off to Manteos for racing even with his handicap situation.

Unbelievable that noone hadn't put Ian out of the race in almost 1 hour of recovering through
the all field (myself included)   ;D I'm joaking, well done supreme Comander of the outer space
civilization, astonishing recovering.  :o

Cheers

Had a fantastic race. With odd mistake and hairy moments. I hardly ever drive the Renault Alpine and was surprised by its good albeit slightly understeery handling. So far racing with you guys has been a privilege but I do have to accustomed to absolute "radiosilence" during races. You have to believe me when I say that my occassional  "sorry" and "np" buttons have been hit out of cheer habit before I even realize.

Tony, I have opdated my profile.

Clive and Stig, Love being in a team with you chaps. And Clive stop wobbling when I am right behind you ! :w00t: :jumpjoy:

Cheers, (Senior)dan.

I was happy to return to race yesterday! Having some pain to my leg, I decided to race lying on my bed, scared about the chance to make some mistakes in the "fat Stang". I managed to go slower than usual but I think I had not cause troubles to the people near me, and that's just a good result!!! I stayed quietly behind mr. Matt Rowe, at the start but after 2 laps I had to give up him, because my pace was more than one second slower, and the tyres consumption due to x2 and probably to the pad, was really high. I was in 9th during the ninth lap pit lap, but with an army of Alpines behind me that I let pass me easily 3 corners before the pit entrance. At the pit I changed the tyres (red and totally burned!!) and refueled a bit... but not enough to finish the race unfortunately :(...  When missing only 2 laps to go I've done a second pit and then I finished behind Ade, but extremely happy to see the checkered flag!!!
Surely the Alpines here had a strong racing advantage in terms of consumption, but the Stang was a lot more funny in my opinion to drive with the pad, and I decided to choose it, even cause I'm not battling for the champ, and the classement was far away from my thoughts in this moment. I'm even pretty sure that without x2 compsuntion my final position would have been better than a 19th place, but I've got to train more with the pad to be competitive for the top ten positions!
Thanks for your kind words guys, even those have a good influence on my low moral at the moment :)

Grats to the podium, and to all finishers! Cu soon guys!!!

Yes a good evenings entertainment.  I didn't retire I had to make a pit stop for fuel. Despite making your car as wide as possible I managed to get by on the faster sections, although one dive down the outside at T1 resulted in a cut track warning at T2.  Some places we were fairly evenly matched and others you were way faster.

Missed out on half an hours practice.  Wednesday my wife dusted my computer layout and managed to get my router/printer electrical splitter box on/off switch right on the "rock".  After driving Wed. and yesterday up to and including after tea for a while, when I tried to practice I couldn't log on.  Ping Plotter showed OK for about half the jumps - so I assumed wrongly it was a line problem.  After off line practice I tried again, nothing, I noticed all my router lights were off so I checked my splitter and the  power on light was off even though the switch was on then I found the problems by switching off and on.  What a ******.

Bill

Thanks all for the great racing. I was expecting a lonely race because of all the times posted but boy I was wrong!
Had some great battles all race long with - amongst others - MJ, GT and Sandor.
Thoroughly enjoyed it and all clean (hope I didn't cut you off at the corner GT).

Congrats to Beings-from-outer-space and to my teamies for the great results. Sandor beat me fair 'n' square with only a minor difference on the s/f.

Off to Bush now..

No it wasn't you Alex, it was all my own work ::)  ;D Good clean racing all round from where I was sitting :)

I know we collided several times but I hope your not accusing me of desparate defending. If you watch the replay you will see that I took the same lines around this circuit on every lap. We collided as I was unaware of you closeness to me. I always came off worse anyway  :(