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Title: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 12, 2005, 11:35:54 PM +0100
GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1 at Barcelona

Date: Tuesday 25th October

Practice 1: 8:30pm (15 mins)
Qual 2: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (40 mins)

Cars allowed: Any GT car or Corvette or Viper G2. (Seat Toledo is allowed but will not score points.)

Notes:
(1) Full time drivers should arrive during Practice 1 if possible. Reserve Drivers can take spots AFTER 8:40pm (5 mins to go in practice 1) to give Full Timers big enough chance to join.
(2) Server Password has been emailed to those registered racers for the relevant race. Please contact a member of the admin team to get the password if you are registered and have forgotten or not received the password. It will not be given out in the GTR chatroom as that is a public place. The password wont change for the season unless there are security concerns.
(3) See  UKGTR Sprint Season 2 Info (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?ind=lm2&group=10) for general Season 2 info.
(4) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 13, 2005, 08:25:09 AM +0100
Race distance shortened to 40 minutes for those silly sausages who can't drive economically. :P


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Pedro[PL] on October 13, 2005, 02:09:18 PM +0100
This is not Toyota Prius Cup, where all is about to get to the line first then check who got least negative points from the onboard computer :D


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 13, 2005, 05:06:31 PM +0100
This is not Toyota Prius Cup

Damn, have I missed a major mod's release? :P :D


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paddy Cummins on October 14, 2005, 08:05:56 PM +0100
This looks like fun so I've entered the GT class today as a reserve driver. I take it a reserve driver is a driver who is not 100% whether or not he will make the race? I dunno.
Anyway, why is the Toledo, M3 etc not eligable for points?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 14, 2005, 08:34:32 PM +0100
This looks like fun so I've entered the GT class today as a reserve driver. I take it a reserve driver is a driver who is not 100% whether or not he will make the race? I dunno.
Anyway, why is the Toledo, M3 etc not eligable for points?

Reserves are also those who for whatever reason couldn't be given full time spots (which are limited by server capacity).

The Toledo isn't fast enough to run in GT so we put it in its own class. We don't allow add on cars, and the Z3M (along with the GT3 Cup and Elise) are in G3 because they are uncompetetive in NGT.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paddy Cummins on October 14, 2005, 10:26:59 PM +0100
OK, thanks Dave. That makes sense.

So when the racing night begins do I just find the session in the lobby and join it?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: JonM_uk on October 15, 2005, 12:09:16 AM +0100
Yup  ;D


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 15, 2005, 09:36:57 AM +0100
So when the racing night begins do I just find the session in the lobby and join it?

Yes, just don't join before 20:40 if you're a reserve,


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paddy Cummins on October 15, 2005, 10:37:50 AM +0100
OK, and just one more question regarding the slow cars (Toledo, Z3 etc):

When you say they are not eligible for points, does that mean driver points? I love the Toledo but I'm not going to drive it if I can't score points in it.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paddy Cummins on October 15, 2005, 10:42:59 AM +0100
By the way, I didn't yet revieve my password.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 15, 2005, 11:07:41 AM +0100
Yes, I haven't had the password either?!


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 15, 2005, 11:35:41 AM +0100
Yes, I haven't had the password either?!

The race isn't until Tuesday - no need to start panicing already!


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 15, 2005, 11:37:17 AM +0100
OK, and just one more question regarding the slow cars (Toledo, Z3 etc):

When you say they are not eligible for points, does that mean driver points? I love the Toledo but I'm not going to drive it if I can't score points in it.

Any points, driver or team. There really is no point in taking the Toledo in a GT Sprint race, the proper GT cars will eat you for breakfast and spit out your bones. :P


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paddy Cummins on October 15, 2005, 02:39:02 PM +0100
Ok then. Fair enough. I'll be content with a 550 or a Viper  ;D

I thought we were all meant to recieve our password by now but its good knowing that you havn't sent it yet. Take your time.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paddy Cummins on October 15, 2005, 07:16:37 PM +0100
Another question to keep you busy.   :P

Which driver aids will we be allowed to use? Tell me the Auto Gearbox and Traction control at least!! ???


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Truetom on October 15, 2005, 07:35:27 PM +0100
Another question to keep you busy.   :P

Which driver aids will we be allowed to use? Tell me the Auto Gearbox and Traction control at least!! ???

Ha! Clutch.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 15, 2005, 07:52:30 PM +0100
Another question to keep you busy.   :P

Which driver aids will we be allowed to use? Tell me the Auto Gearbox and Traction control at least!! ???

We're simmers here, only auto clutch I'm afraid!


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 15, 2005, 08:00:57 PM +0100
Paddy, our rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7#technical) are pretty clear aren't they? :P


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paddy Cummins on October 15, 2005, 09:49:55 PM +0100
Yes, sorry. I was lazy Dave. Hhhmmm. This is gonna be a very tough racing series. Especcially with me being a keyboarder.  :-\


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Jamera on October 15, 2005, 10:20:51 PM +0100
Yes, sorry. I was lazy Dave. Hhhmmm. This is gonna be a very tough racing series. Especcially with me being a keyboarder.  :-\


Oh dear!!!!!


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Truetom on October 16, 2005, 12:32:30 AM +0100
Yes, sorry. I was lazy Dave. Hhhmmm. This is gonna be a very tough racing series. Especcially with me being a keyboarder.  :-\

It was a long time since I knew anybody drive with a keyboard.  :D

I admire you - can't see how I could drive GTR with that.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 16, 2005, 06:45:33 AM +0100
Especcially with me being a keyboarder.  :-\

 :o :o :o


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: PaulW on October 16, 2005, 11:25:02 AM +0100
Whoa! That will be a tough and I'd imagine frustrating battle Paddy. I`ve a 3 month old Formula Force you can have for 25 quid + a bit of postage if you wish.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paddy Cummins on October 16, 2005, 12:58:39 PM +0100
So you all reccomend a wheel then? I've been racing with the keyboard all the time and managed ok but that was with aids on. I'm gonna give it a go with aids off but if its too hard and leading to frustration I may just withdraw.

Thanks for the off Paul but I'm vey short on money at the moment.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 16, 2005, 01:07:41 PM +0100
So you all reccomend a wheel then?

I think you'll find it very hard to be competetive with the keyboard - I'm pretty sure no other UKGTR drivers use one.

Do you have a GTRank (http://www.schuerkamp.de/zope/gtrank/) perchance?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paddy Cummins on October 16, 2005, 01:35:46 PM +0100
Well Dave, I've had a run in the Seat (easiest car in the game to drive imo) around Catalunya without the aids and its near impossible. Theres no way I could handle a full lap, let alone a full race.

Thats a dissapointment. I'll have to withdraw my entry  :(

No, I don't have a GTRank account. I may create one even if, now, it is not nessecary.

Have fun this season guys...


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: greg130 on October 20, 2005, 03:25:06 PM +0100
Having just driven in the first NGT race of season two I thought it would be appropriate to post a little reminder for the new drivers:

Have a read of the rules to make sure you know what is expected of you.
No chat in qual or race.
Please don't drive around the track in qual with smoke/steam pouring from your car.
Enjoy the race and have fun.

See you all at Barce.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Mark J on October 21, 2005, 01:01:55 PM +0100
Being that i am a reserve driver for GT (not by choice) :( and the fact that the grid is likely to be full for at least the first few races, how does one go about getting promoted to full time ?...is there a pecking order? personal choice etc ? if someone drops out.  ???

Just curious. :)

Hopefully i can get on the grid at 8.40 but not holding out too much hope of spaces  :'(


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 21, 2005, 01:49:40 PM +0100
how does one go about getting promoted to full time ?...is there a pecking order? personal choice etc ? if someone drops out.  ???

After a few races, if there are full time drivers who have been no shows I will start offering those spots to reserves. I've tried to make sure that everyone who has asked to be is full time in at least one championship. There just aren't enough drivers to make two divisions viable unfortunately, but we have enough championships running to accomodate pretty much everyone somewhere.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: PaulW on October 25, 2005, 10:24:41 AM +0100
Bit green with the GT cars- what do you guys think for 40 mins in a Saleen at Barca-

Soft front, medium rear?
Or medium front and rear?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 25, 2005, 12:49:54 PM +0100
Bit green with the GT cars- what do you guys think for 40 mins in a Saleen at Barca-

Soft front, medium rear?
Or medium front and rear?

You wont get away with softs on any GT for more than 20 mins imho.
I'd go medium front and rear everytime.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: PaulW on October 25, 2005, 12:58:21 PM +0100
Thanks dude.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: locutos ukgtr on October 25, 2005, 03:37:51 PM +0100
Kewl, a new season begins,and a campaign in the lambo, which I will stick with for the season. Will be interseting to see how my times compare to last seasons Lister.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: rufbtr on October 25, 2005, 03:55:22 PM +0100
hey can i drive the Alzen Porsche aka "Turbinchen"  :)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: David M on October 25, 2005, 05:31:10 PM +0100
Not sure if i'll be able to make rounds 1 and 2, i'm having internet troubles justnow - so theres definetley a space for at least one reserve tonight :)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Mike Wrightson on October 25, 2005, 05:40:24 PM +0100
Cool!

I'll be waiting.  Think I'll try something different as well :)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: fozzmeister on October 25, 2005, 07:17:27 PM +0100
Praccy server up (good for 7, issues sorted)

Fozz


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paul_Mccluskey on October 25, 2005, 07:30:23 PM +0100
I am not able to connect to multiplayer, says cannot connect to server. have done a reinstall and still the same problem, even tried to register again but still cant connect. i thought the whole system was down, but looking at the post above this isn't the case.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 25, 2005, 07:44:28 PM +0100
Are you running a firewall of some sort?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paul_Mccluskey on October 25, 2005, 07:48:43 PM +0100
no firewall, and ports r open, online no probs the other day when I installed more memory, looks like Im gonna miss tonights race, nevermind, have a good race folks and will see you's next time, doh I thought I installed zonealarm antivirus, It also must have installed firewall too, no idea why I only installed the virus program, I dont know why i bother with these programs, they cause nothing but hassle. uninstalled it and problem solved



Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: rufbtr on October 25, 2005, 09:10:19 PM +0100
damn 10 fps bug at tge end of quali, couldn't get back in the cause it was full
 :( :'( >:(


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 25, 2005, 09:11:35 PM +0100
Was the server misnamed "UKGTR Practice" again? ???


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Mark J on October 25, 2005, 09:15:36 PM +0100
Major major hacked off  >:(

Joined the barce race okay at 8.41 , all great. Go to leave the pits...i have no engine sounds, i can hear all other game sounds not my own lump. Left the game 3 times, even restarted my pc...still no engine sound. I tried it in single player...it was fine, back into multi...nada...gggrrr >:( ???
I even tried a different car, same thing no sound.

By the time i tried to get back in again...it was full !!!

Really hacked off as i know i had a great setup and had done stacks of practise.
Cant believe i've had 2 online races ruined in a row, by other factors. Not had any trouble in previous 4 online meets  ???
Why would the engine make no noise in multiplayer but okay in single player?
Gutted. :'(


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: mclaessen on October 25, 2005, 09:37:42 PM +0100
Nice season starter that was.

Got rear ended in the 2nd lap  >:( . My car didn't feel well after that. Tyres were overheated too.

Sorry to the one I rear ended in Repsol. I quit the race before I would do any more damage. Really got frustrated there.

Better luck next time then.

Some people in their outlap keep getting in the way of people who are on a hotlap. If you let someone through then keep of the racing line. So please, watch your mirrors. It will make it more fun for everyone  :)



Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: PaulW on October 25, 2005, 09:41:17 PM +0100
That has happened to me before when the server had a 3rd party car installed I didn't have- doesn't make any sense though as this one is official cars and tracks only.

Got a new PB in qually 1:39.X, very pleased. Knew I'd be a sitting duck for the first few corners though as the medium fronts made the car feel a little skittish until warm. A couple of laps in had a close call with Maurice at the first corner- not an overtaking attempt Maurice, I moved over to try to buy myself some space and also braked earlier than my usual marker. Couldn't tell if i tapped you or you were taking the corner wide and too fast and span. Did a drive through the pits anyway. My dodgy hamstring is still hurting unfortunately and I had to quit about half way through :-\


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Jamera on October 25, 2005, 09:42:01 PM +0100
Well that answers one question then, I got disco'd at end of Q2, tried to get back in, but game was full. Finally got in with about 10 secs of qually left, selected Lambo and found myself at the back of the grid. Started climbing up through the field only to get punted off twice from behind in the same lap. Tried to push to make up time, but span into the barrier and lost the splitter, decided enough was enough and it wasn't going to be my night.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: mclaessen on October 25, 2005, 09:57:18 PM +0100
That has happened to me before when the server had a 3rd party car installed I didn't have- doesn't make any sense though as this one is official cars and tracks only.

Got a new PB in qually 1:39.X, very pleased. Knew I'd be a sitting duck for the first few corners though as the medium fronts made the car feel a little skittish until warm. A couple of laps in had a close call with Maurice at the first corner- not an overtaking attempt Maurice, I moved over to try to buy myself some space and also braked earlier than my usual marker. Couldn't tell if i tapped you or you were taking the corner wide and too fast and span. Did a drive through the pits anyway. My dodgy hamstring is still hurting unfortunately and I had to quit about half way through :-\

As far as I know I wasn't taking the corner too wide. But you got to understand it's really frustrating if your race is practically over within 5 minutes. After the spin I got stuck behind the backmarkers.

That I had to quit wasn't anybodies fault. I tried to make up some time to get back on my spot, but I took the last corner too fast got some oversteer and just lost it.

I better stop whining now I think. Like I said, better luck next time  :)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Paul_Mccluskey on October 25, 2005, 09:59:03 PM +0100
It has been a bit of a nightmare start for me too, nothing wrong with the racing, couldnt connect earlier on, so uninstalled gtr and reinstalled, still no joy, didnt have a firewall on, opened my ports, still no joy, turned out it was zonelarm firewall was on my machine, tho I only selected the anti-virus software, anyway, uninstalled it and hey presto, I can connect, get into server, and now my wheel doesnt feel right, there is very little feedback effects, its set at 100% in windows  and 97% in gtr, so i exit again, go into game controllers in windows and everything is set ok, but when i do the feedback test the feedback is weak, unplug the usb, put it back in, still doesnt feel right, shutdown, restart, pushing it for time to make the race, go into gtr and select momo wheel effects, go into server and the feedback is back again, go into qually and im struggling, can't get a clean lap in, managed 16th in the end, start of race go too fast into first corner, end up in sand trap, come out in last place, make a few places up as people fall off the track, had an incident in what i think was with a saleen , he had a wobbly moment and i touched his rear end, sorry to whoever that was, It look like i sent you into pitlane, hope that wasnt the case, but couldnt see you in my mirror, I go round into the start finish straight and as I get near the end my pc goes into 1fps mode, bought more memory hoping to avoid that, end up smashed into tyre barrier, wrecked, so that sums up my night. :'(  at least ive got 2weeks to get my problems sorted.  grats to the podium , cyas next time ;D


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 25, 2005, 10:00:38 PM +0100
Christ, has everyone been eating red meat since season 1? Dave and Greg might have their hands full this week ;).

No idea why but i'm not much good at barca. Done more laps there than anywhere else but still sucked. So pretty happy with 8th, it was as good as I could have expected.

Congrats to Jon, different class.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 25, 2005, 10:02:05 PM +0100
Wasn't going to race here as I was only reserve, but I checked at about 8:43 and there was 5 spaces so I thought I'd better make up the numbers.

Decided to take the Corvette despite no practice and no proper setup. Made a setup during qualifying and went into the 1:39s, very pleasing, 0.5 faster than my PB in the Vette at least (if not more), although no where near my Lambo time and no one was near JonM's astonishing pole time!!

Race was very consistent very much like my NGT sprint race in the Morgan. The Vette is very easy to drive and keep on the track so no mistakes at all whole race, consistent pace and picked up 4th.

I let Luis and and Pedro past a couple of times as they were much faster than me and being a good team player I wanted them to try and get into the faster boys up front. In the end I finished ahead of them through consistency but very promising for team shark, 3 in the top 10 and if Luis had managed to finish would have been 4. Shame for Luis.

Well done Jon on another dominating performance.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Aagramn on October 25, 2005, 10:08:42 PM +0100
That was hard work. Got knocked back to last place after an incident on the first lap, and had trouble getting the car off the kerb. Worked my way up the grid and finished 7th through a mix of retirements and passes, which I'm pretty pleased with. Will have to look at the replay to make sure all my moves were OK.

Apologies to the driver I punted off in qualifying. Your braking point was a lot earlier than mine, and I was slow to react.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: greg130 on October 25, 2005, 10:12:52 PM +0100
Christ, has everyone been eating red meat since season 1? Dave and Greg might have their hands full this week ;).

Didnt see anything at the front, very clean race, lol.

Anyway on to my race.
Qualed in 4th, well pleased with the time.
Had a steady start to the race until Maj put me under a lot of pressure, just couldnt shake him off.  This went on for lap after lap until Maj spun making an overtaking manover.
So now I'm alone on the track for the first time this race and up to 2nd after two of the faster guys had spun.
Carried on and on with Rich getting closer and closer as we neared the final lap.  Just managed to hold him off by 0.3 secs to claim 2nd place.  
Really pleased with the result as it was totaly unexpected.
Time to look at the replay me thinks. ;)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: JonM_uk on October 25, 2005, 10:14:35 PM +0100
Had a good race and qually  ;D
Stayed in front from the start to finish and me tyre's held up great. Couldn't ask for more ;) Back markers were as courteous as ever, thanks :)
Might take the vette next time out  :-\ Not sure if I could pull myself away from the lister though....Maybe it's time to see team shark's Dr fins
 :D


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: silver53 on October 25, 2005, 10:16:40 PM +0100
Hi again gave my self a stop go as I think made contact about half way through.bye for now gerald


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: pswillies on October 25, 2005, 10:26:05 PM +0100
First race for me... pleased I managed to finish!

Lost a lot of time in the pits when I couldn't restart the engine after fuelling, couldn't remember what key's I'd assigned to what!

 ;D


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Mike Wrightson on October 25, 2005, 10:37:23 PM +0100
I tried a new car for me, the Ferrari 550, but one of the pirelli-tyred ones :)

Went OK, threw some kind of setup together in qually and quickly made some places after some fell off.  Slipped past SBG and set off on the long haul.  Then I came up behind Locutus when he spun, I chose the inside to go round him and was amazed when I hit him  :o  Thought I'd left enough room  :'(

That screwed the race up as I got stuck on the kerb when turning round :(  Visit to the pits for repairs and I was dead last.  Made it back to 11th after others fell off, despite another self-inflicted spin.

Not bad, but think I might stick to my Viper from now on :)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Pedro[PL] on October 25, 2005, 10:44:11 PM +0100
i have no engine sounds, i can hear all other game sounds not my own lump

In my home league (http://liga.gtr.pl/) this problem occured when skins were installed on the server but not on your local machine. I am not sure if UKGTR allow for car skins, but this may be your bug.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: codsworth on October 25, 2005, 10:49:11 PM +0100
Hi there.

First proper race for me & had a bit of a strange one(enjoyed it though).

Was doing ok (16th) then got bumped off the track coz I think i'm braking earlier than you guys(no-ones fault).

Then was holding my position in 3rd(from last.. ha ha) & then my DELL happily interupted & told me that my pc needed an update or something & all I could hear was my car ramming into a barrier! I then spent the next three minutes with the 1fps bug watching you guys cruising round havin a great time!!

I obviously then had to retire but i'll be back!!

Thanks to all of you,

Codsworth

P.S. how do I make a replay of the whole race??

All my replays of the races seem to be of me just sitting in the garage?? Any ideas?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: fozzmeister on October 25, 2005, 10:50:26 PM +0100
Tale of missed opportunities for me...

Qualify was good, narrowing down on where I thought I should be compared to my race pace. Last flying lap, 0.3 up, and a car is ambling round on a warmup lap smack bang on the racing line into that sweeper before La Caixa. Those 0.3 seconds cost me 5 positions!

Lap 1, great feeling car, Easily passed PaulW on the way to turn one but tapped a lister (i think) into turn 4 and they did a graceful spin, Sorry so much for that, you just slowed more than I expected, but there's no excuse really.

Ended up quite far down, where I did some superb overtaking moves, and some inventive lines to get passed people. Then I started getting to the more challenging people like PaulW and Sponsored, was still a good bit faster than them, PaulW went off in sympathy for someone else then just as I was pulling close to Sponsored... Computer resets... WTF. So the only points I get are penalty points, majorly gutted.

Doubly Gutted as Barca is my absolute favourite track, and the only good race I've had there has been a fun race.

Still at least some of my penalty points should expire soon :-)

On the plus side, the F550 felt near perfect with a modified GH setup, looking forward to Magny...


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: picnic on October 25, 2005, 10:50:53 PM +0100
Was the server misnamed "UKGTR Practice" again? ???

Should have been "UKGTR - GT Sprint S2", there was a practice server up until about 7:30, could it have been that you saw?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Luis Branco on October 25, 2005, 10:51:10 PM +0100
What a nightmare I had today.
I got late at home and when got to the lobby only one place available.
Join in already inside Q2 soon to find out I had a terrible stutter. Impossible to drive like that. Got out and in again. Still stuttering. Out once again and when to join in the server was full. Waited a bit and by miracle some one left and I could join.
The stutter was gone but now I had high pings for every one. No one below 300. The lag from other cars was terrible.
Got out to track just to put a qualifying time more then 1 second from my normal time.
Started from 10th, thinking, ok, no worries, not going to stop and the medium-medium can last for as long as 45-50 minutes without any problems.
Right, started attacking from lap 1. Managed to put several places but always with the heart in my mouth, so bad was the lag. Had tremendous difficulties to follow close to any car. And then came the first consequence. I was following Blaz and suddenly the distance to the Lister was null. Braked as hard as I could, dodged left to avoid Blaz but still hit him in the process (sorry man).
Dropped back again. Started attacking once again. When passing Shark at the finish straight I thought I could not move right in time to not hit the Corvette.  Think I still touch Shark, but was able to pull off in time and overtake him. Gained position again and now was starting to get close to Rich. Lag made it difficult once again.
When trying to make position to pass Rich had to make another evasive manoeuvre and spinned.
I was becoming to get infuriated with the PC.
Attacking once again and voila…what I was afraid happened. The PC frozen and nothing but a hard reboot to solve it.
Don’t know what cause such a lousy performance but ruined my race completely.
I was very optimist for Barcelona. I could very well qualified within the top 3 and ended in the top 3 also. I’m terrible disappointed with the final outcome.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Pedro[PL] on October 25, 2005, 10:58:27 PM +0100
For me this was a first race under 'Team Shark' brand. I wanted badly to perform well so I have practiced two hours straight prior to race, then attended usual pre-race practice. I have managed to end second in qualifications so my hopes for "on the box" finish were high. Unfortunately, three hours of racing tired my eyes so much I found it almost impossible to concentrate :( After 5 very consistent laps I span on lap 7, then 12 and 15. Completely off-pace and with slightly damaged suspension (and totally torn tires) I was only able to make my way to the finish line. Hence my 6th position. At least I managed to have third race lap time.

Well, this is racing... At least I have gained some experience and next Tuesday practice will be early in the morning :D

Greets to all you guys, especially Jon, Greg and Rich for superb performance.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: picnic on October 25, 2005, 11:02:40 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results now available


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Aagramn on October 25, 2005, 11:05:36 PM +0100
P.S. how do I make a replay of the whole race??
Glad you enjoyed your first league race.

There is a problem with GTR where the replay gets overwritten when the game moves to the next session. There is a server replay you can download here:

http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: codsworth on October 25, 2005, 11:08:13 PM +0100
P.S. how do I make a replay of the whole race??
Glad you enjoyed your first league race.

There is a problem with GTR where the replay gets overwritten when the game moves to the next session. There is a server replay you can download here:

http://www.ukgtr.org/replay/

Cheers mate


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Rich_A on October 25, 2005, 11:38:47 PM +0100
Hi there.

First proper race for me & had a bit of a strange one(enjoyed it though).

Was doing ok (16th) then got bumped off the track coz I think i'm braking earlier than you guys(no-ones fault).

Then was holding my position in 3rd(from last.. ha ha) & then my DELL happily interupted & told me that my pc needed an update or something & all I could hear was my car ramming into a barrier! I then spent the next three minutes with the 1fps bug watching you guys cruising round havin a great time!!


Try disabling anything that uses the internet.. i.e automatic updates, antivirus auto updates, windows msn messenger and messenger. You find these in control panel/administrative tools/services.

Hey Luis, computer froze. Check temps on CPU and GFX card, try enabling fast writes in bios, could be CPU needs little more vcore [volts]. Could be a number of things and you can bet it won't be a one off.  If you still have probs catch me on msn and i'll try and help. [email protected]

I think maybe i'll do a guide to setting up OS.

Good race for me finishing third but mostly due to many mistakes made by other drivers. Good start and then I lost it coming off a bump, that one more click rear fast rebound was too much.. no grip.

Then got going again and was behind you Blaz. I sat patiently watching you burn up your tyres, lots of smoke and then you span out giving me third. Pushed quite hard, car felt good though not perfect.. managed to catch you Greg but I couldn't make a pass in time 0.3 seconds very close finsih.:) - well done for 2nd and well done Jon great race pace. :)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Luis Branco on October 26, 2005, 12:00:21 AM +0100
I already found the culprit, but thanks for you help, Rich ;) Always available to give an hand. :)

I installed a brand new memory last night: Gskill TCCD PC4400. Yesterday night I was fiddling with bios to check how far I could push these babys. I tested several settings and found a good latency 2-3-2-5 at 450Mhz - 225FSB. Then I pushed a little more and went for 2.5-3-3-7 with 500MHZ - 250FSB. However I noticed that although the CPU and memory were fine with that clock my Asus wasn't particularly happy (yeah, I should have gone for a DFI to have a good overclocking base).
However it was a bit late at night and I went to bed leaving the same setting.
Today when I got home I don't even remembered I had left the Bios settings at the higher speed and went straight to race. Only after the hang I remembered I had left the Bios unchanged from the last setting.
Reverted back to 2-3-2-5 at 450 MHz and just come from a 40 minute race at Spa (online) where every thing have run smooth as silk. A pity I didn't remember it sooner and before entering the server for the race. :(


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 26, 2005, 07:54:42 AM +0100
Should have been "UKGTR - GT Sprint S2", there was a practice server up until about 7:30, could it have been that you saw?

This was just after 9pm but it was on RaceCast so it might well've been stale data. As it turns out the driver who was having problems wasn't using the simulation lobby - I realised later that nowhere in the rules does it explicitly state that we use Simulation mode so I've updated them to match. ::)


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Don on October 26, 2005, 08:47:30 AM +0100
A lot of non finishers, must have been some race?


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 26, 2005, 09:06:03 AM +0100
The stutter was gone but now I had high pings for every one. No one below 300. The lag from other cars was terrible.

I don't think the high pings was just you Luis. When we reach 24 drivers it's the absolute limit of the server and it really is teetering on the edge of being unable to cope. 23 drivers it's much better, 22 perfect, but 24 you get about 300ms pings to people. It's just workable.

When passing Shark at the finish straight I thought I could not move right in time to not hit the Corvette.  Think I still touch Shark, but was able to pull off in time and overtake him.

Actually you didn't hit mit, sorry that was my fault, I wanted to let you through as you were clearly faster than me and I wanted Team Shark to get further up the points so I eased off the throttle thinking you had already pulled out to go past and I would make it easy for you (being team mates), but obviously I should have waited till you were definately along side before doing so. I then flashed you to tell you it was safe to pull back over onto the racing line, not sure you can see flashing in the mirrors tbh.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: PaulW on October 26, 2005, 09:15:11 AM +0100
Sorry MC, the replay shows my tap- was trying to do what I could to avoid you :-[

Very strong field indeed last night, just broke into the 1:39's and that was only good enough for 12th! Like a few others it seems I just don't 'get' Barca. Enjoy driving it but don't find I have the pace. Anyway, onwards and upwards!


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: rufbtr on October 26, 2005, 09:29:35 AM +0100
i think we should forget the reserve drivers joining a fulltime race, i think a few fulltimers couldn't race because the server was full.

 i had  FPS problems in quali , so i went out the game, but couldn't get in becuase it was full.

and that was the end of my 1e season 2 race  :(


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Mike Wrightson on October 26, 2005, 09:39:54 AM +0100
Thats exactly what put me out of my NGT Sprint race :(

Rather than ban reserves, I think it needs to be stated that drivers must ONLY join during Practice.  Once qualifying starts, no new drivers can join the server.  If that is done, then any driver who gets kicked during qually will be able to rejoin.  My view on this is that those who are on the server once qualifying starts have booked their place.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Wilier on October 26, 2005, 09:42:32 AM +0100
Well that went a whole lot better than expected.
Decided to take the Corvette for a spin, since I know I can do a fair few laps without losing it.
Did a PB in qualification which I was pleased with, but still only good enough for 20th place on the grid.
Started well, nipping past Mo at the first turn and continued on the road in a rather loose, twitchy way. I think it was at the end of the 1st, or maybe 2nd lap there was a bit of trouble at the end of the start/finish,
got through ok, upto 16th. Carried on and became aware that I was at the front of a fairly long traffic jam with me being just quick enough to stop the next car get through. A few laps of this and the yellow Saleen behind me just very slightly tagged me going into the 2nd gear left-hand hairpin (need to learn the names of the corners really ), I think it was my fault cos Id come of the right hander slightly sideways and needed to settle myself before the hairpin.
Lost 4 places here which I was real pissed about, but at least I didnt spin......

The rest of the race was basically fairly lonely. I was 20 secs behind the previos car, and 5 secs ahead of the next. So just drove steady
and consistant, knowing there would be a certain amount of wastage.

So I was a bit of a tortoise tbh. Slow and steady, but came in 9th  No spins, no major mishaps.

Fairly chuffed tbh.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: PaulW on October 26, 2005, 09:45:39 AM +0100
Rather than ban reserves, I think it needs to be stated that drivers must ONLY join during Practice.  Once qualifying starts, no new drivers can join the server.  If that is done, then any driver who gets kicked during qually will be able to rejoin.  My view on this is that those who are on the server once qualifying starts have booked their place.

Sounds fair enough to me. As a reserve I waited until 8:41 last night to join to find that there were only 17 drivers there. And one of those was a reserve who'd just joined before me. That would have meant you racing against 15 other drivers ruf  :)
If you are a full time driver in a race series then getting yourself prepared and ready and joining up during the early part of practice is the least you can do surely. Agree that CTD's and the like complicate things though  :-\


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: mo on October 26, 2005, 10:41:39 AM +0100
I didn't really expect to get into the race, being a reserve, but was amazed to see slots available.
So I joined at end of praccy and suddenly realised that I had never raced Barcelona in a GT in the dry before so no setup or praccy!

Really tough race for me suffering from FPS in the 15 to 20 range for most of the race, and also due to some crazy last minute setup guesses which made the car unpredictable at best. :o :o :o
I had countless offs mostly on my own, except for hitting some spinning cars and being nudged into the gravel at Repsol by a Lambo (I think).

Noticed some really weird warping and low FPS around the time that Fozz got the 1fps bug - my car seemed to be suddenly placed several meters to the left of where it was. The same appears to have happen to PaulW who was in front of me and also to the car in front of him who actually disappeared clean through the barriers and into the twilight zone.

Still had fun while it lasted but eventually retired on the last lap when I couldn't see anymore due to the stuttering.
Congrats to JonM, Greg130 and Rich_A on fine podiums - hope I got out of the way safely for you guys.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on October 26, 2005, 10:58:20 AM +0100
i think we should forget the reserve drivers joining a fulltime race, i think a few fulltimers couldn't race because the server was full.

 i had  FPS problems in quali , so i went out the game, but couldn't get in becuase it was full.

and that was the end of my 1e season 2 race  :(

If all the full timers actually turned up it wouldn't be an issue, but they don't. If we only allowed full timers the endurance races would be almost empty now. We can't win - if we try and fill the grids people moan because they can't get in, and if we reduce the size of the field everyone moans that they had boring, lonely races.

If you have FPS problems they're your problems. Sorry if that's harsh, and I know the crappy software has to shoulder some blame, but those of us with our machines set up properly shouldn't have to suffer half empty grids just because your machine isn't working right. >:(

Rant over.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: fozzmeister on October 26, 2005, 11:07:07 AM +0100

Noticed some really weird warping and low FPS around the time that Fozz got the 1fps bug

I didn't get a 1FPS, I got a total crash on my PC.


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Wilier on October 26, 2005, 12:52:12 PM +0100
I may be alone on this because I dont do a great deal of racing, but if I know I have a race in the evening, Im sat waiting to join at the start of practice, partly through really wanting to get in and race and excitement, but also due to being organised I guess. I know thats not always practical, but for me, thats the best way to work.

Last night I really didnt expect to get a drive (being a reserve) but as so many have said, at 2040 there were still around 8-10 places left.

Perhaps one fix (if its really that broken) would be like Mike Wrightson said. If you cant get on the server in practice, forget it. No new drivers should be allowed to join in Qual (in fact when Ive tried in the past, Ive not been blocked by the game, even with free slots!!). This would allow people who have fps or stutter issues to leave qual, sort their machine and rejoin. A few times people left last night saying "brb, stutter issues" and I doubted they would be able to rejoin.

Just my 2 penneth. :)



Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Luis Branco on October 26, 2005, 01:18:09 PM +0100
I was the one who said I had stutter issues and brb.
I had luck enough to be able to rejoin although the server was almost full. Just one spare place left.

Far from me to want to influence the administrator and Dave already replied to this but...in SRP-GTR we use another process. The players that can not attend a race must inform the admin with no less then 24 hours notice. Then the admin post to the reserves there is places available and how many.
If a player miss one race without informing the admin he is penalised (we have rules for that kind of penalties). If he miss another race, even if not the next race, again without prior notice to the admin he will be immediately put as a reserve driver and then a reserve, wishing, can become a full time driver.
It does wonders to keep everyone in their toes and we always know you have a spare place to attend the race, even if you come to arrive late for one reason or another.



Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: fozzmeister on October 26, 2005, 03:00:34 PM +0100
I like this, but with 3 chances, not 2. not that i've ever missed a race as a full-timer

I was the one who said I had stutter issues and brb.
I had luck enough to be able to rejoin although the server was almost full. Just one spare place left.

Far from me to want to influence the administrator and Dave already replied to this but...in SRP-GTR we use another process. The players that can not attend a race must inform the admin with no less then 24 hours notice. Then the admin post to the reserves there is places available and how many.
If a player miss one race without informing the admin he is penalised (we have rules for that kind of penalties). If he miss another race, even if not the next race, again without prior notice to the admin he will be immediately put as a reserve driver and then a reserve, wishing, can become a full time driver.
It does wonders to keep everyone in their toes and we always know you have a spare place to attend the race, even if you come to arrive late for one reason or another.




Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: Mark J on October 26, 2005, 03:28:47 PM +0100
RE: all the above, i had similar woes as mentioned earlier...i joined same time as Paul W and only 17 slots taken at 8:41. My problem was with only 3 mins of praccy left, then discovering i had no engine sounds, no-one had time to offer any advice or give me much time to get in & out the race to try and cure the probs. (as it turned out i jumped in and out about 5 times in early qualy trying to resolve the sound issue but no joy with either a lister or a lambo...i even rebooted my pc in case it was me).
Then tried to rejoin qualy and it was full !...so plenty of late arrivals turned up. :(

Surely its the responsibility of the full timers to be punctual in first practise if they want to ensure their spot ? Cant blame eager reservists waiting to get in late on (8.40+)....technical issues aside ::)
If anything i think having only the last 5 mins for reserves doesnt give them time to resolve any online probs before qualy :-\


Title: Re: GT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1, Barcelona - Oct 25th
Post by: rufbtr on October 26, 2005, 03:42:48 PM +0100
i only have these problems on the UKGTR server, so is it really my pc ?

but what the heck, better luck next time.