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Title: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 01, 2010, 07:30:03 AM +0100
All members are welcome as the season resumes in Canada after the short Easter break.

Practice 1:20:00(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:10(20 mins)
Race:20:30(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: Any GTC or GT3 from the v2.12.4.0 pack (download (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics)).
Track: UKGTR Edmonton City Airport v1.1.0.0 (download (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_edmonton))
Time of Day Setting: 17:00
Weather: dry.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR U12LE
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=242;theme=3)
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;sa=driver_info) page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Jayblue on April 04, 2010, 02:49:03 PM +0100
Just checking we are using the updated car pack and not still v2.12.0.0 for this event?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Legzy on April 04, 2010, 05:22:52 PM +0100
Just checking we are using the updated car pack and not still v2.12.0.0 for this event?
Did you check the post before yours Jay? ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Jayblue on April 05, 2010, 10:47:04 AM +0100
Just checking we are using the updated car pack and not still v2.12.0.0 for this event?
Did you check the post before yours Jay? ;)

Yes i just wanted to double check it wasn't a typo! Sorry  :laugh:

Do i have to remove just the previous physics pack or delete all the skin packs too before installing the new physics?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: nsfast on April 05, 2010, 11:41:40 AM +0100
Quote
Do i have to remove just the previous physics pack or delete all the skin packs too before installing the new physics?

You can just install the new physics pack over the old one JB. The old one is deleted as part of the process.  :) Worked for me.

No need to do anything with the skins. Although you do need to install the old sound file again.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Jayblue on April 05, 2010, 03:45:14 PM +0100
Thanks saves me reinstalling everything again  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Jayblue on April 06, 2010, 04:17:39 PM +0100
Super hard to stay out of the walls here and i can see lapping people being a real problem too because much of the track has only one good line to take and the kerbs are pretty high too! Should be a good race though  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 09, 2010, 08:07:43 AM +0100
I can't join server, keep getting booted as a cheat. Is the problem at my end?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Prof on April 09, 2010, 10:24:18 AM +0100
I can't join server, keep getting booted as a cheat. Is the problem at my end?
Worked fine for me the other night. Starting with the obvious, have you installed the new pack?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 09, 2010, 10:36:51 AM +0100
I can't join server, keep getting booted as a cheat. Is the problem at my end?
Worked fine for me the other night. Starting with the obvious, have you installed the new pack?

Yes, I did test race last week with no problems. Have you tried server since it was restarted last night? If you did, what more can I do? Ta in advance.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 09, 2010, 11:07:47 AM +0100
Yes, I did test race last week with no problems. Have you tried server since it was restarted last night? If you did, what more can I do? Ta in advance.

Working for me okay today.

Try reinstalling both the pack and the track.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Prof on April 09, 2010, 11:13:37 AM +0100
Just tried and it's okay here as well.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Truetom on April 09, 2010, 04:53:56 PM +0100
Works for me.  :) Z4 will be a bit more nimble here than Marcos. :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Mark J on April 09, 2010, 06:15:21 PM +0100
sorry been away on hols. Do i just need the new physics pack? All skins are as before easter update ?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: spanner on April 09, 2010, 07:10:54 PM +0100
Yep Mark, no new skins so you just need to update the physics pack. And you will need to reinstall the sound pack if you had that installed.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 09, 2010, 07:30:03 PM +0100
Re-install of pack sorted it, cheers gents.

This ones one for the nimble cars, shame I'm in the RS as it feels way to heavy for this track. Swings and roundabouts I spose. 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: spanner on April 10, 2010, 09:34:22 AM +0100
Just want to state my hate for this track :P Dont like, no real flow to it and with those long corners with no aiming point other than the walls i dont see the car lasting too long as it seems to like understeer.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: [email protected] on April 10, 2010, 04:31:19 PM +0100
it seems to like understeer.

You should try the Viper.  ;D

Check out how my last race ended on this track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl3lu-8l0RA

Different view:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FxSZdNu_OA


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Truetom on April 10, 2010, 09:08:37 PM +0100
Turn, TURN, you fat bi...  :scared:  Did I see the little [email protected] get thrown out Flatout-style? ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: nsfast on April 11, 2010, 08:44:08 AM +0100
Looks like I'm going to miss this race.  :( I was looking forward to fighting the Viper round here!  ;D

Have a good race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Legzy on April 11, 2010, 09:57:50 AM +0100
1:09 so far for me, but I think I'll be struggling more with barrier avoidance! :laugh:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Mark J on April 11, 2010, 10:34:09 AM +0100
1:09 so far for me, but I think I'll be struggling more with barrier avoidance! :laugh:

No change there then Legz eh?  ;)

Not turned a lap here yet, will have to hope i get some laps in later before the race.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Steve_T on April 11, 2010, 04:12:18 PM +0100
well im struggling to get a 1.11 in a Streiff, happy at 1.12, just cant seem to get round it any faster, so I;ll probably sit this one out or i'll just be in the way on this go-kart track.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: spanner on April 11, 2010, 04:16:34 PM +0100
But was that in the GT3 Vertigo Steve? ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Steve_T on April 11, 2010, 04:53:01 PM +0100
Yes Spanner it was but I see that the record is 1.09 in a streiff and the AI in a race was qualifying at 1.07 I think


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: spanner on April 11, 2010, 05:22:29 PM +0100
So being 2 seconds away from lap record pace is too slow for you Steve? I'd be happy with that pace! lol


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Steve_T on April 11, 2010, 05:27:52 PM +0100
3 seconds ;) i just tend to struggle to a get setup and after hours of going through a setup procedure im not sure its any better than the default, this seems to be the case with most cars / tracks. Just lack of experience I guess.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: [email protected] on April 11, 2010, 06:00:58 PM +0100
Did I see the little [email protected] get thrown out Flatout-style? ;D

 ;D

I have a PB of a low 1.10 but I am expecting to be doing 1.11/1.12 in my GTC class TVR. Racing with the GT3's again. ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Steve_T on April 11, 2010, 06:20:33 PM +0100
Well I may just give it a go, I'll put a big L-plate on the back


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: phspok on April 11, 2010, 09:16:53 PM +0100
Viper embarrassing here. Was getting bumped too much while "racing" and too many lappers at the same time, I tried to hold my line or give room, but someone stuffed it behind me I think while trying to lap, sorry if I got in the way.
Dont like the track in anything so left so as to keep out of any more trouble


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: ginsters sponsored on April 11, 2010, 09:30:03 PM +0100
Not a fan of that track at all. Flat, dull and huge divide between the nimble/power cars. That may explain the poor turnout.

Really fear for GTR Sundays future and respectfully ask that the new man is placed in charge asap whilst there is, for me, still an opportunity to revitalise it. Surely when we get full grids for PnG there is still a chance? If not it will be iR Sunday no doubt which sounds like, erm, fun ::) 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Prof on April 11, 2010, 09:43:44 PM +0100
I tried to hold my line or give room, but someone stuffed it behind me I think while trying to lap, sorry if I got in the way.
Dont like the track in anything so left so as to keep out of any more trouble
That would be me trying to keep up with TT. Couldn't get past you on the short straight and was left far too wide. I ran into the end of the barrier at the left hander killing the car dead. Shame as I had a sniff of a podium tonight.
More time to enjoy the golf I suppose.  :D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Truetom on April 11, 2010, 10:15:58 PM +0100
Good stuff Legzy, Prof. 3-way fight for good long time. Tough track. :)
I'm with you, sbg, I fear the same thing. Don't want to let-go of GTR2, for me it's way more fun than iR. :( I hope the low number are down to track choice. Was it on purpose, Dave?  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Legzy on April 11, 2010, 10:26:16 PM +0100
Track is decent enough (for the occasional visit we do), certainly a tough one to complete... my panel beater is on overtime! ::)

Had some fun racing with TT at the start that was more what I'm used to in UKGTL not UKGTR2! :o I'm sure we probably both came away from that with scuffed paint jobs! :whistling: :laugh: Once him & prof were past, they were gone like the wind :(

Kind of felt like I was stuck in reverse after that, dropping positions continuously. ::)

Came out the pits on the tail of McFids & from there the race was one. I think he'd be the 1st to admit I seemed to have the edge when we were both on fresh rubber, but gradually (just like in the 1st stint) he seemed to come good as i went downhill... I think that if the race hadn't ended short, it would have taken a miracle for me to stay ahead!! :sweatdrop:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: [email protected] on April 11, 2010, 10:33:20 PM +0100
Forgot to put my race setup on at the start of the race. Had to come in quite soon as 5L fuel and soft tyres were not going to cut it.  ::)

Eventually caught some GT3s and had some nice racing with Steve, Matt and JPV. :)

It took a few very bad attempts at passing before I realised it was not going to be that easy. Sorry Matt and Steve.

I was very lucky to be able to continue after Profs car went through my windscreen during the incident mentioned by Matt. 2 sets of battling drivers catching each other while the fights rage. The outcome was unlucky.

Shame the race ended early. Well done podiums, see you all next time. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: picnic on April 11, 2010, 11:06:04 PM +0100
Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20100411%20U12LE/index.html)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: picnic on April 11, 2010, 11:22:12 PM +0100
Was getting bumped too much while "racing"

Sorry, one of those was me. Once I'd recovered from the initial mayhem I was caught up in and followed you through the fast twisty bit after T1 I was completely unprepared for the difference in speeds between out 2 cars. You seemed to continue ok at the time, I hope there was no real damage.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Josè Arrogantio on April 11, 2010, 11:35:26 PM +0100
Not a fan of that track at all. Flat, dull and huge divide between the nimble/power cars. That may explain the poor turnout.

It did clash with MotoGP aswell  :'(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Legzy on April 11, 2010, 11:49:16 PM +0100
Is it normal for both those cars to show up as "NGT"? :-\  (the porka & the Mosler)


EDIT - Err, I don't think it is, because McFids has not scored any points in the championship.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on April 12, 2010, 07:47:56 AM +0100
Is it normal for both those cars to show up as "NGT"? :-\  (the porka & the Mosler)

No, but it's all better now (assuming I've got the classes right!).


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: picnic on April 12, 2010, 07:50:39 AM +0100
Sorry chaps, tired last night and too many choices while entering the details obviously got the better of me :(  :-[

Thanks for sorting it Dave :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Mcfids on April 12, 2010, 09:37:17 AM +0100
I really enjoyed last night, mainly because the Mosler was good around this track and I could race (thanks for the -5kg physics tweak, Dave :)).

Was just keeping up with the 3 way battle between TT, Legzy and Prof but Legzy dropped back as his tyres degraded and Spanner closed up. Managed to keep Spanner at bay and passed Legzy after some fun racing. Legzy was back on my tail after the pitstop and got pass me on fresh rubber so I was glued to his rear for the remaining part of the race.

Legzy, you're probably right about me getting past you if the race hadn't finished early but I'm not sure I had enough fuel plus my engine was on it's last legs at 50%. So maybe that worked out ok for me in the end :)

Apologies to SteveT who I rammed when I lapped him - my bad. And congrats to the podiums   

I hope the lack of numbers for this GTR2 race was just a blip; I can't justify or really afford spending a ton of cash on IR atm. It is interesting though that the 1st race of this season was full.   


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Steve_T on April 12, 2010, 02:04:45 PM +0100
Was happy enough with a 1.11 qualifying though it only got me 12th on the grid.
Apologies to Phil (picnic) who I overtook on the warm up lap, I couldnt see you on the grid and thought you were behind me which is why i kept re-overtaking, I thought you were jumping a place. My Bad.

I enjoyed it early on but the intense concentration I needed for this circuit got to me after a while and i made a few mistakes, then the leaders coming round to lap distracted me and I made some more errors, why do I always let lapping cars distract me enough to go off track? That meant I lost touch with the only car i was competing with (JPV I think) so it was a lonely race from then on and a slow pitstop (I must learn pit strategy) saw me way behind to the finish


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: Jayblue on April 12, 2010, 02:38:31 PM +0100
Once again i stuck with the Vertigo for this one and depended on its light tyre wear for a possible advantage come race time. Quali went ok, Berger was too quick in the Spyker for me but i thought maybe in the race i could keep up. After around fifteen minutes racing he started to get away and i had no reply, my front left tyre was already feeling the strain. Then i noticed in XD it was only a 58 lap race and realised i could do my stop without adding any fuel. So i stopped earlier than planned and also only changed my front tyres. After this the car had a much more oversteery balance and was tricky to drive but it bought me the advantage i needed to manage the gap back to Berger until the flag.

A lucky win for me i feel last night and TBH i think for Zhuhai i must change car again as the track is very point and squirt and the Vertigo is definately lacking in the squirt bit  :laugh:

I hope the attendance picks up too, i have been in a few GTR2 leagues and seen a drop off like this and those leagues are all gone now  :'(



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Edmonton - Apr 11
Post by: [email protected] on May 25, 2010, 02:42:57 PM +0100
Moderation of this race is now complete.

You can see the rulings under the results at the top of this page.

PM me if any disagreements.  :)