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Season 19 Novices Trophy - Round 2 - Keimola

A new track for UKGPL with some twisty sections and a decent long straight.  The track was used in the 1960s for Formula 2 races but it never hosted a Formula 1 race.  It is a nice track for the 65s and shouldn't be too difficult to learn.  The pit exit is a bit unusual in that it isn't near the start line.

Reserve drivers should not join until there are only 30 mins of qualifying left and all drivers should not go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Don't forget to use the updated 65 mod for this race.

Please be in the IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
(You will need to set up a channel called #ukgpl if you haven't already done so)
IGOR and Race passwords: see above (#post_event_password)

Server = 5.UKGPL
IP Address = ping myjamesonline.net
Race Date = 20-04-2010
Time = 21:00
Track = Keimola
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qually Time = 30 minutes.
Race Length = Long
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=250&theme=6)

We have split the cars into groups based on average performance and split the drivers into groups based on average ability. The chassis numbers for Novices are as follows:

NOVICE CHASSIS GROUPS
1 - Lotus, Ferrari, BRM, Honda
2 - BT11
3 - Cooper
4 - BT7

Each driver has been given a seeding number and must pick a chassis with either an equal number or higher number but not a lower number. For example, if a driver is given a seeding of 2, he must pick one of the cars in group 2 (BT11) but if he would prefer to drive either the Cooper or BT7 he may do so. This means that a driver given a seeding of 1 can pick any chassis he prefers.

**NOTE**
Whichever chassis a driver begins his first race with is the chassis he must use for the remainder of the season unless a change has been agreed with the moderator.

The following drivers have made their chassis choice:

FULL TIME

Driver	Chassis
D-Rock	Lotus 33
NHance	Brabham BT11
roguk	Cooper T77
maddog	Cooper T77
maestro	Brabham BT11
il_lupo	Ferrari 512
happyal	BRM P261
Billy	Brabham BT11
gilles27	Lotus 33
G Poole	Brabham BT11
BookieW	BRM P261
Sharkfin	BRM P261
norbert	Ferrari 512

RESERVES

Driver	Chassis
Nigel Smith	Honda RA272

The following drivers are still to make their chassis choice:

FULL TIME

Driver	Seeding
Burtoner	2
Vosblod	1

RESERVES

Driver	Seeding
karlisss	1
miner2049er	1

Please use the updated 65 mod for this race which is available here:
Jamesonline.net/UKGPL (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/1965mod_PATCH_v2.0.2_Setup.zip)

Thanks to Phil for posting the announcement, you just beat me to it.

Can I ask that people take the opportunity to report any incidents when possible to make my moderation easier, there was only 1 report from a fun filled Mexico (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7680.0).

Thank you.

I guess if an incident isn't reported you shouldn't bother looking and judging over it. I.e. the parties involved accept it as a racing incident or aren't willing to bother about it.

Yes but if we don't review the Novice races in some detail how will they learn?  You wouldn't want us to promote inexperienced drivers to the faster ranks if they'd got used to flouting the rules just because nobody could be bothered to tackle them about it.  I agree that in the more experienced divisions we can rely on the drivers to know what driving standards are expected but that isn't the case here.

OK, I see your point, but at the same time if they're not reporting it it means they are either not seeing a given situation as problematic or they don't want to bother reporting. One thing I've seen in oAo is when Scott Nowak was making his race newspaper reports he used the Replay Analyser history graph to spot incidents, i.e. when a driver/car makes a dip in the graph it usually means it was due to an incident, so he rarely missed reporting any.

I think you are talking about method 3 (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/moderating/moderatingarace)   ;)

Ah, you're right! I wasn't aware of that page. :)

Congrats on the first win PM, with back to back first time winners it looks like it'll be a really hotly contested season.

Fairly boring race for me, something that wasn't helped by the bland surroundings. Started 5th, there was a lot of warp and disappearing cars at the start, sorry to whoever it was that I hit. After that I gained a few spots from people spinning and was up to 4th, then 3rd after Martin spun at turn 1. A lap or so later I backed it into the wall in the first right hander after the pits, which did no damage but allowed Martin back past. Then I basically just cruised around for 22 or 23 laps in 4th place, bringing home enough points to hold on to the lead by my calculations.

that was great fun for me after some 2years off online GPL!!!
tried to run after p4... but lost all lol
atleast i gaine my PB at keimola!

Great to see you had a good race after your disappointment last season not being able to join the server.  Good luck in the next round ;)

I noticed you were asking about S&Gs in chat.  I didn't want to complicate things by getting involved especially since you were given the right advice by the other drivers.  However if you ever have any queries regarding the rules please look at these pages (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/intro).  The rules are quite comprehensive and few people know them fully so just to make sure the advice you are getting is correct it is best to check the rules pages.

The Sporting Regulations (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/sporting) contain the bits about Shift Rs.  The rules about Stop and Go (S&G) are in the Pit Stops (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/sporting) section.   We don't use Pit Stops in any of our divisions at the moment but the principles still apply.  You can consider a S&G to be a Pit Stop with zero wait time (just make sure the wheels come to a complete stop).

Big well done to Peter on his first win.

My race was lonely at the back, nothing really to report as it all went OK, just slowly. I was having problems getting heat into my front tyres if I didn't push, and when I was lonely I started to wonder a bit and heat would go from my front tryes. Apart from that nothing at all happened.

Quite a race for some:
•   Karliss made his debut in UKGPL
•   Ross (Gilles 27) takes his first pole position
•   But mostly for Peter Maestro who, after 54 official race starts takes his first victory. With Goran taking 2nd place in the Amateurs it was a good night for Black Night Racing.

I do like this track & enjoyed some battles with Ross, Karliss & Nigel. Most were settled by one or the other of us taking a detour off track, but good fun. Managed to hook up a good lap at the end of qualifying to give me P.3. But that’s about as good as it got.

There were a few glitches particularly off the start line with cars disappearing. I did half of the first lap guessing where the cars in front should be. Also the pole sitter couldn’t see the flagman (bad luck Ross – maybe you should practice a bit less!).
Second or third lap halfway up the S/F straight a car appeared out of nowhere directly in front of me - CRASH.  Perhaps more server related that track problems as I haven’t seen any complaints from the Ams.
I’m sure its all good experience.

Grid was a bit thin so hope to see the usual suspects back for more mayhem at Laguna. (If that’s too long try the Spec Challenge at Silverstone on Sunday week).

Wow that was a busy race. Well done to Maestro, I'm sure victory is all the sweeter after waiting so many races.

From my POV I was chuffed, and surprised, to get pole. I reckon this new track was something of a leveller, and having a thin field also helped. I have to admit I put a fair bit of practice in too after a disappointing first outing at Mexico.

My pleasure at getting pole evaporated after the farce on the grid, when I couldn't see the flagman as he was too far over to the right. Apologies to everyone whose race I spoiled. In all my practice races I was never on pole, so didn't realise it would be a problem...

In the early laps I tried too hard to regain lost ground, and had a few other offs, as well as bumping into HappyAl a couple of times. Third time around he was gracious enough to just let me through! Once I got into the groove I was going pretty quickly and recovered to 5th with fastest lap so I guess it wasn't a total loss. I can't help feeling I won't get a better chance to win this season though.

See you all at Laguna in a couple of weeks.

At last, finally got a win
:jumpjoy:
Got 2nd in qualifying with a PB
I think a huge bit of luck for me as Ross did not know you have to look right to see the flag from Pole and he didn't see the flag go down. The ones behind just steamed into him as he hadn't moved. Somehow Bill in 3rd behind him just drove straight through him unscathed., but the next ones didn't.

Had another stonking start, and gave myself a bit of room for turn 1. Apologies to those following me as I was all over the place on lap1 on cold tyres.

Getting into Lap2 I realised I was leading and a panicing feeling started creeping in. Could I keep it on the track, as I usually fall of at some point.

Kept an eye on prib for whole race and I could see I was very slowly increasing a gap to 2nd place.

The worry of leading and not going off was immense. This is ridiculous, its only a game.
Loved the track (of course with a win I would say that)

Onwards to Laguna, see you all there, plus some of those missing from this one

WD Peter  ;D

You may be pleased to hear that the panic/stress when leading will never quite leave you - I still get it on the rare occasions I manage to depose Hristo and Co for a bit, albeit not quite as bad as the first time I led (Watkins in S17 I think - promptly fell of and ruined my race within a lap ::) )

LOL Peter, your remark about panicking while leading makes me feel better :-) I was very nervous on the grid and perhaps if I'd used my brain I might have pressed the button on my wheel to look right, and seen the flagman!

I make too many mistakes in races at the moment anyway, so I'm sure you would have won even if I had got started properly. It was still a cracking race and I can't wait for Laguna.

Not quite.  ;D

Grats on your first win, not any other feeling like it!

Well done Pete - you were overdue a victory  :)

Yes grats Peter.
Victory tastes sweeter after such a long journey. The trouble is it can get addictive......ask Hristo ::) ;D

Things weren't promising for me in the Coop, during warmups for the big race,  but a final tweak,
and things were suddenly better.   I managed a 4th on the grid, behind a suddenly better
Billy.

Off the grid, I was suddenly up to second, and fighting to overcome the cloaking devises of
Maestro ahead, and Roger behind, as we traversed the first lap, in close formation.  Some skill and intuition, to stay so close and not collide, I thought.  Bravo gents!  And it might've stayed a 3 way
battle, but it was such a nice day, I preferred to take in some of the scenery.  :-\

It was the first of several detours, as I proceeded to have fun slinging the car about the countryside,
and quickly found myself in 5th behind Bill, and newcomer Karliss.  Our battle just as quickly resolved
itself, in a bit of a calamitous moment, when we all arrived at a left hander at about the same time.
We all braked late - I found an empty patch of grass before the turn in, and somehow managed to scramble around in front.  But don't try this at home folks!

After that, things were less fraughtful, with a brief spell in 2nd, and 4th after another of those wretched detour signs!  And for the last 10 laps, my pitboard insisted I was stuck at 8 seconds behind Roguk, even when I was driving fast!  I must have words with my timekeeper. . . grumble . . .grumble!
Oh well, a podiums not bad, and nice driving by those at the pointy end.  ;)

Just a note to say well done Pete. Hopefully I'll make the next one.

Maestro57 took the laptime consistency prize with an average variation of just 0.254 which was virtually identical to the 0.252 that Evil Clive managed in the Amateur division. The gap between the divisions shows in average laptimes though; Evil Clive won at an average 1:20.8 while Maestro57 did it in 1:22.7. Over qualifying the divisions seem a lot closer & Gilles27's pole lap would have put him 7th on the Amateur's grid.

I've adjusted the climber-meister table to take the penalties from the last race into account which means Billy Nobrakes won the last round. Consistency scores obviously aren't affected.

A perfect consistency score would be 145 (that's no variation in laptime over 29 laps).

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AwMtMND4F-o/S867C8B0ltI/AAAAAAAAAEg/HBB7w-epamc/s1600/Novs02.png)

* only best 8 scores will count
** average variation above 5 seconds = 0.00 points

:o
i think no...
i already debuted some 2 years ago and did some 2 races :)
but still slow

3 actually - see here (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=1902;sa=racing_history)

Well done to Pete, the first win's always the best, until a better one comes along! :)

Sorry for the delay in posting the final standings.

There were a few incidents but thankfully no penalities.