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Title: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: vosblod on April 22, 2010, 01:34:54 AM +0100
Race three and onto Donny. John R leads the Works by 33 points but rumour has it he has gone to Tibet to study Chih-Nii so the field is still wide open. In his Privates Bookie has left his flies open with a 12 point lead and two podium finishes.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 25-04-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time (BST = GMT+1)
Track = Donnington
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 43)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=248;theme=6)
The track can be downloaded from : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1287 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1287)
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3287 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3287)

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time = GMT).

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With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=248&theme=6). Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, namely Works and Privateers. The driver split will be;

WORKS drivers
Phil T        
Evil  
John R  
Tim FMG    
Steve Bird        
Jethro    
Al H    
Bartosz (Pod)    
King Hero    
Rick    
Baab    
Hristo (R)    
Sam B (R)    
Fulvio P (R)    
Ruud Savelkoul (R)    
Dwarf Car Driver (R)  
   
   
   
   
   

PRIVATEERS drivers
Bernie    
Burtoner    
Mike Turner    
Vosblod    
Bookie W (R)    
Billy    
Fabio (Il Lupo)    
Rafael Mestdag      
Graham (R)    
Pete Maestro (R)    
Nigel Smith (R)    
D Rock (R)    
Hannah (R) tbc  
Ronnie Peterson (R)  
Maddog    
   
   
   

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: In the event of more then 19 entrants a second grid will be run for the Privateers on ukgpl.5. (ping myjamesonline.net) Instructions will be provided in the chatroom – please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count. If you can try to make sure you are in the chatroom by 8.50pm this will enable a decision without any delays to the start time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: bernie on April 22, 2010, 12:09:36 PM +0100
N.B.

According to the blurb , the "add ons" convert the  "bolards" (and the same to you to mate) into solid items , stops any would be chicane dodgers  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 22, 2010, 01:09:00 PM +0100
N.B.

According to the blurb , the "add ons" convert the  "bolards" (and the same to you to mate) into solid items , stops any would be chicane dodgers  ::)
Yes I had noticed the bollards were more for "guidance" purposes.
Don't know if its me but Donny seems to have a distinct lack of grip in the 67 cars.
Hopefully we'll get enough drivers for a split grid. If not the Works will have their work cut out lapping the Privateers. I usually try and move aside but if you do this too late it can go horribly wrong. Will adopt the  stay on line & ease off the gas on the straights approach? Comments welcome.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 22, 2010, 03:23:52 PM +0100
What I would to not see anymore is backmarkers slowing down completely while they're in front of leading cars, sometimes at a big distance ahead, but reacting to the very first blue flag. I had a few hairy moments like that in Keimola Amateurs.

It's much safer to just keep your line and slightly lift up ONCE a leading car is making a pass, to let it by. The other safe opportunity is on corner exits if you choose to compromise your exit and keep the inside line. But any changes of lines on straights and into/during corners, plus sudden slow down, is very unpredictable.

What do you mean by addons, Bernie? Graphics addon for Donnington? I've ran the track before and the cones (or whatever they are) on the edge of the track are not solid, so you can go through them. As for lack of grip, I think it's mostly because there are no cambers in the corners at all, so generally you need to turn in early, then let the car drift to slow down and hit the apex. Early acceleration helps as usual. The tricky part is cutting over the curbs just enough to keep 2 wheels on the tarmac, otherwise it gets rather illegal.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: bernie on April 23, 2010, 10:30:34 PM +0100
I refer to the "add ons"  in the header re "downloads"  :)

Quote
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
The track can be downloaded from : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1287
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=3287



 ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Turkey Machine on April 24, 2010, 07:55:41 PM +0100
Is this being run with the solid bollards or not?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: EvilClive on April 24, 2010, 08:30:58 PM +0100
A good question.
I would imagine that, as the "solid" bollards are an optional add on, then they are not mandatory?, but it would be good to know. :-\


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: vosblod on April 24, 2010, 09:03:52 PM +0100
A good question.
I would imagine that, as the "solid" bollards are an optional add on, then they are not mandatory?, but it would be good to know. :-\
Well there's no rule as there is at Kyalami so it's up to you. I understand the 'originals' are not solid so we're not going to make an add on that puts them in compulsory...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: bernie on April 24, 2010, 11:39:41 PM +0100
To be fair , I think all you lot should have solid bolards  ;D



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 25, 2010, 12:00:35 AM +0100
So it doesn't matter if you install the solid ones on the server, we won't have solid if we don't install them on our end?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: vosblod on April 25, 2010, 01:07:26 AM +0100
So it doesn't matter if you install the solid ones on the server, we won't have solid if we don't install them on our end?
I'm pretty sure T7 is just the original (a big hand to Fulvio for installing all the S18 tracks  :thumbup2:), so if you haven't got a stiffy on your end it will definately be floppy...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 25, 2010, 02:46:18 AM +0100
Thanks, I'll go with a floppy one so I can take some shortcuts.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Podkrecony_Ziutek on April 25, 2010, 08:39:38 AM +0100
No, you can't :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 25, 2010, 12:36:43 PM +0100
I was going to set up UKGPL_4 as a praccy server but Vos has already got UKGPL_6 up to I'll leave mine off.

On the bollards topic, it doesn't matter what we have set on the server.  The drivers will only see what is on their client PC.  Moreover ALL the collision engine processing is done on the CLIENT PC. 

Just in case anyone isn't clear what this means.  If driver A has the "Solid" bollards in place but driver B doesn't, then driver B can drive through the bollards with impunity.  The server doesn't care.  When driver A plays back the server replay on his client PC, he will see driver B miraculously driving through the "solid" bollards seemingly unaffected.  This is how we know if someone has removed the pit wall at Kyalami.

At Donington the standard track doesn't have solid bollards so as Vos has already said we will not ask anyone to put them in (it would only make a PRO race harder to finish and won't necessarily improve anyone's enjoyment of the event).  What we don't want is anyone gaining an unfair advantage by cutting the corners too much.  After the race if you feel you were disadvantaged by someone cutting the corners, please submit an incident report.

As an aside the collision engine on the client PC has big implications for warp incidents.  If you don't know what I'm talking about, please read this (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/warp).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 25, 2010, 01:48:56 PM +0100
I was joking, don't worry! We've ran this track several times in oAo and the rule was simple - keep at least 2 wheels on the track at all times. I would count curbs as part of the track as well, so you can kinda drive almost all over them, at the last chicane for example. It's not just faster, but also a safer line. Ah well, I'm sure it's going to be fine.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Turkey Machine on April 25, 2010, 03:56:10 PM +0100
What about if drivers screw up braking and miss the chicane? Should they then relinquish the place as it would effectively be straight-lining the corner?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 25, 2010, 05:09:17 PM +0100
What about if drivers screw up braking and miss the chicane? Should they then relinquish the place as it would effectively be straight-lining the corner?

A screw up is pretty obvious and it shouldn't really gain you much time, so just continue as normal, but let someone by if you passed them that way.

Unless you begin to "screw up" consistently on each lap (which would tell you do it on purpose), I don't see a problem.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 25, 2010, 07:30:34 PM +0100
What about if drivers screw up braking and miss the chicane? Should they then relinquish the place as it would effectively be straight-lining the corner?

A screw up is pretty obvious and it shouldn't really gain you much time, so just continue as normal, but let someone by if you passed them that way.

Unless you begin to "screw up" consistently on each lap (which would tell you do it on purpose), I don't see a problem.
Sound advice H.  Keeping at least 2 wheels on the track is a sensible guideline.  If someone screws up and gets past on the grass, then getting back on the tarmac will be classed as a rejoin.  In this situation I would expect a driver to heed the normal rules and rejoin carefully.  That would include letting through the driver you passed whilst on the grass BEFORE you get back on the tarmac. 

We generally don't ask drivers to let people through after an incident as it can create confusion, but this assumes both drivers are still on the track.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Rick Nauman on April 25, 2010, 08:03:50 PM +0100
Posting this here in the hopes someone will see it.  Also posted it in the general chat forum.

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=52.0

After upgrading GEM+ I can only run what appears to be the 69 mod.  I say "appears to be" because the physics seems like the 67 version with only the 69 car graphics.

This happens if I use GEM set to 67 or if I click the GPL.exe or click the GPLc67.exe.  I can not find a way to get the 67 title screen and car graphics to show.  Also, when I click the Donington race in iGOR I can join even though it is a 67 race.  My car looks like a 69 but I'm in 67 race.  I thought iGOR would not let you join with the wrong mod.  That's why I think the 67 physics is running.  Plus it just feels like the 67 physics.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 25, 2010, 08:54:04 PM +0100
Not sure what is happening here but I've had strange things happen too.  To be honest I can't remember how I fixed it but I think it was to do with the season.ini files.  I had to make the season.ini files all the same (i.e. 67season.ini file = 65season.ini file = 66season.ini file = 69season.ini file) and that sorted it (I think).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Ronniepeterson on April 25, 2010, 09:07:41 PM +0100
And the race/rcaes are listed where???


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Turkey Machine on April 25, 2010, 10:11:08 PM +0100
And the race/rcaes are listed where???

We run Graduates in iGOR. Instructions are around here somewhere to set it up properly.

After doing an OK qualifying lap, I was trying all manner of things to keep the unruly Honda on track in the race. Managed to sneak past Al on the run to old Hairpin, and settled into 5th behind Hristo, a wild Brabham, another Honda and a Cooper. After a few laps, the Brabham fell off at T1, so I ended up 4th. Tried to keep it that way, but the car was just wheel-spinning at almost every opportunity. I also couldn't get the car slowed down late enough for the chicane or most of the corners, which is a bad thing here. Mosport setup probably not a good idea in hindsight.

After the Brabham had overtaken Al, he set his sights on me. Except I don't give in that easily! :D </joke> It was fair racing, but on the exit of Coppice a lap later, the car tried spinning to the inside, so I hit the brakes to stop it doing so, which may have forced him off-track. Apologies if that was the case, it was not intentional!

Not long after that, just tootling down the start-finish straight, when a phone call from my boss appeared to make the engine blow in 4th. Cause was listed as "Header". I reckon "sabotage" might be more appropriate! The apparant wheel-spinning had made the Honda cry "enough" and leave several bits on Starkey's straight. Irony was, I'd not broken an engine all through pre-race practice.

Oh well, on to the next one.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: b_1_rd on April 25, 2010, 10:20:45 PM +0100
Bit disappointed to be so far off the pace.  Messed it up anyway, but it was shaping up to be one of the most boring races I'd had, so probably a blessing.

I'll miss nurby as away on business.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 25, 2010, 10:43:53 PM +0100
I had this one in the bag, but threw it away after spinning and hitting the wall out of T4 (or 5?), the fast left hand kink. Hit the wall with the right hand side of the car and continued, but the handling became terrible. The car was sliding all over the place, eventually overheating the rears tremendously.

I could lap fairly fast for 2-3 laps before the car became undriveable and was just spinning every time I turned the steering wheel. Dropped down to 4th or so before going off terminally, ripping off a wheel.

It was a bit boring up front, but that's no excuse for losing concentration.

Hope Evil won as he took the lead from me, so SHE would be pleased non the less!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 25, 2010, 11:02:21 PM +0100
And the race/rcaes are listed where???


All series for this (And every other) season are listed here: https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=48.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?board=48.0)
For this series you want S19 Graduates, and will need to register (vote in the relevant poll) for either the Privateers or Works series depending on your ability/experience  :)


My race was actually a tad boring, Took the 'safe' bet of a Cooper as I wanted a few more tokens in the bank and found myself on only 5th in practice as I couldn't throw a suitably Banzai lap down the entire course....

Jumped Al at the start, got scared silly by the sight of a Honda looming large in my mirrors into T1 - thankfully I survived and haired off in persuit of Clive's Waza-mobile now upto 4th.
Stayed in 4th for the first few laps until Bob fell off ahead some 10laps in and was bumped to 3rd, next excitement was another 10 laps or so in when he caught me again and tried to pass. I guess he span it under braking as he was inside and I didn't hit anything, but one moment I was fighting for 3rd and the next Bob was 400+ yds behind me  ;D

Then Hristo had his off and I gained 2nd, which lasted until Bob activated his secret Hyperjets and blasted past me on what was probably my only real mistake of the race - I hoped he and Evil would do the Decent thing but it failed to materialise so I took a hard fought 3rd  :angel:

WD all finishers, and thanks for the racing  8)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: maddog on April 25, 2010, 11:09:40 PM +0100
It's all a plot, I tell ye - my first On-line race as a Graduate, and I flunked!  A brief tale for those who experience a similar difficulty with IGOR.

I was all set, and ready to don a Donington helmet, and in the excitement, I chose the wrong server.  Sort of like jumping into the wrong car by mistake.  But with lightning fast reactions of an F1 ilk, (whats an ilk?) I realised my mistake, and instantly returned to IGOR  . . . only to find the interface had suddenly gone missing?  It was zooming off the toolbar, and out beyond max res.  Grumbling time commenced   >:(. . . !

It took a half hour to decide this was not just a nightmare, conjure up a dummy igor install, try the exe, and the inis, and finally cut and paste the section that specifies the Widows window orientation, for proper IGOR display.  And you guessed it, after all that, the race had just started!

So, when jumping in and out of servers rapidly, I'd recommend first backing up your IGOR.ini file.  Or else, if you front runners would like to slow down a little, I'd be less likely to seek solitude elsewhere.  "Can you spare me an ini guv, I'm only a Private!?"



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: vosblod on April 26, 2010, 01:16:04 AM +0100
YYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :jumpjoy:

August 2008 to April 2010 - 20 months to you and me. I have won my first race WHOOPEE. Shame the champagne went out of date and we had to drink it on New Years eve.

First off, commiserations to Mike T - it was his in the bag and mine by default, sure your time will come...
Default or not a win is a win so, even though I was hoping for third I will grab this one, hopefully the first of many. I noticed most went out via crashes and not disco's. Felt like an endurance race to me.

Anyway I had a few weeks off then hit Donny at 19's so took qually as my learning curve and was pleased to get 13's. I flunked the start and, tbh, the race was boring but there you go.

See you at the next one, Nurby???  :sweatdrop:

PS: Who is Ray Cattini? And how did you get the race password?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: kinghiro on April 26, 2010, 07:55:28 AM +0100
A bit careful start where JW got by me and I safed a bit much into T1 so Pod sneaked up my side and passed me as well. I got my position back after some laps and spent 30-40 laps with Pod a 100 yards behind me. I managed to hold that position up to finish(5th) after Al who I gave up catching allthough we were not far off in pace.
Wonderful to have practiceservers up.thx :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Ronniepeterson on April 26, 2010, 08:47:22 AM +0100
Ray Cattini Is Ronnie and I got the password from where I was told it would be. Congratulations to you anyway. Must have overheated the engine in qulayfying because for it go on the third lap of the race was grim on my part (missed gaer what an idiot). See you at the Ring where its only six laps............but long ones!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Michael Turner on April 26, 2010, 09:46:25 AM +0100
I managed to edge into pole position ahead of Bernie but had a poor start and found myself in P3 at the end of the start straight. After Ray (I think it was) had an off I found myself in P2 and had some close racing with Bernie for a few laps until Bernie ran wide and I moved into P1. Then the first of the technical mishaps -  a black screen (caused I think by the default W7 screen shutdown mode) which took a few seconds to sort out by which time Bernie had caught up with me. A few more closely fought laps followed which culminated in us touching wheels going through the chicane. We both emerged unscathed with Bernie in the lead and myself in hot pursuit until I thought I was close and fast enough to attempt a pass but it didn't work out as smoothly as I had hoped and led to Bernie's retirement. I managed to survive another another black screen episode (thank heaven for Donington's wide open spaces) and was about to start my last lap looking forward to my first victory for 6 years when the screen froze :cursing: and VB roared to victory as the last man standing.

I think others suffered screen freezes and technical issues marring what was otherwise a very enjoyable event at a great track.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: bernie on April 26, 2010, 12:50:47 PM +0100
Took an age to get on terms with this slippery track , decided to take the Coop and save credits because in all honesty I was having big trouble in getting 3 consecutive laps without sliding off into the boondocks .

Very suprised to get P2 in qually and got a great start to get into the lead but Mike was faster in the Brabby and soon caught up , We had a good until I slid wide and let him through , it took an age to re join and Mike was gone but soon after I caught him up again (thought he too had an off ) I got a good run down to the chicane and was able to squeeze through under braking but we touched and I think Mike spun out but no damage . Mike got his own back later when I ran wide and left the door open going into that killer corner at  the top of the track , should have seen him but didnt, I moved back onto the apex but Mikes car was inside , we touched and I took off then landed upside down on what would have been a very sore head . Glad I didn't spoil your race Mike it was a stupid elementary mistake from me .

Sorry to see you robbed of a the race win , cruel luck , and even more so as we didnt get a soggy 1-2

Big grats to Vosb on his first win , hope theres many more to come  :)

see you guys at the "Ring"


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: vosblod on April 26, 2010, 01:32:07 PM +0100
Ray Cattini Is Ronnie and I got the password from where I was told it would be. Congratulations to you anyway. Must have overheated the engine in qulayfying because for it go on the third lap of the race was grim on my part (missed gaer what an idiot). See you at the Ring where its only six laps............but long ones!
Ronnie I've linked your driver name to your SROU forum name so you now appear in the standings, it will pick it up automatically in future.

UPDATE: both replays are in the usual place (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/2010.04.25_donington_grads/ (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/2010.04.25_donington_grads/)) so any incident reports by close of play 2 May please. Sorry for being remiss and not finalising the modding for Monaco yet, should have this shortly...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Al Heller on April 26, 2010, 02:25:54 PM +0100
Pleased to qualify 4th in the Cooper. Looked a bit of an enduro event so I decided against any heroics at the start. Was comfortable tailing Tim & Jethro during opening stint when a recovering Bob got past at the chicane - he was clearly quicker so short of instantly finding another half a second a lap or blocking him for the next 35 laps he was always likely to get past. Dropped a few places with a spin at T1 - thanks to King Hiro for doing the "Ol' Switcheroo" & letting me nip back past. After that I lapped pretty consistently though had a scare going past Rick as he vanished just as I got alongside - was expecting a sickening crunch any second but luckily he beamed back to earth behind me.

Chuffed to see Vos win Privateers - well done Tim :). I will admit to a large chuckle that your victory champagne had actually gone out of date by the time you won though - maybe you should have bought a tin of evaporated milk instead :D.   










Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: EvilClive on April 26, 2010, 02:55:00 PM +0100
Well, that was more than a lucky win for me ;D

a) I had done very little practice and it was only in the qually period that I began to get some sort of performance out of the Waza.
b) I was still way off the pace of Hristo and was convinced that the Brabhams and Coopers would be all over me like a rash. :-\
c) When the race started I managed to just about hang on to Bob and Hristo for the first 3 laps, which pulled just enough of a breathing space back to Tim and Al.
d) Bob then managed a spin at T1 that elevated me to 2nd spot, still losing ground to Hristo who was by now out of sight  ::)
e) Bob, Al and Tim seem to have given each other enough grief to occupy themselves whilst I eased out a cushion.
f) Hristo then manages to test the barriers and bend his nice shiny white Waza, elevating me to 1st..and I still have not passed a single car in race mode!!.
e) During the last few laps, Bob finds the afterburner switch on the dashboard of his Brabham and is closing the gap at an obscene rate.
f) Bob makes his move with 3 laps to go as we take the uphill right hander onto the straight, but slides the tail out which clips the front of my Wazamobile..... wait for warp launch into the boondocks, but nothing happens :o
g) ..........until he gets a little too heavy on the gas whilst trying to blast down the straight and spins !!! allowing me to regain 1st spot with about 3 secs lead and now 2 laps to go.
h) Despite a blistering last 2 laps from Bob, he cannot get close enough to mount a challenge and I squeak across the line with less than 0.5 secs lead!!
Plus I had guessed at my fuel load and was short shifting until Bob caught me in an attempt to stretch out the fuel consumption..just in case.
I really expected to be trampled under a horde of faster cars here and was amazed to even be in with a shout of a podium, let alone a win lol. Big grats and commiserations to Bob who was definitely the quickest man still standing and to Tim for finishing on the podium.
At least SHE should be pleased as "because all our victories are belong to her". ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 26, 2010, 04:41:24 PM +0100
Awesome drive, Evil, I had no idea you had it difficult in the closing laps of the race. Now I have to win all of the remaining races and use these bad results for my 2 worst score drop off.  :P


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 26, 2010, 05:16:47 PM +0100
You can bog off Hristo!  :P

I'm due at least one win after my engine related embarrassment at Monaco  ;D
(I wonder if I can report my own car to Tim for moderating?  :D )

Just a shame I'll be at the 'Ring for real during the next race, I recon a Lotus might have given me enough of an edge there ;) :angel:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 26, 2010, 05:55:37 PM +0100
You can bog off Hristo!  :P

I'm due at least one win after my engine related embarrassment at Monaco  ;D
(I wonder if I can report my own car to Tim for moderating?  :D )

Just a shame I'll be at the 'Ring for real during the next race, I recon a Lotus might have given me enough of an edge there ;) :angel:

What times are you down to in the Lotus?  8)

I seriously doubt I can win all of them in a Honda, it's not so much a problem of pace than motivation and focus. Instead of just bringing it home at Donington I kept pushing for records just to keep myself entertained and that backfired.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Phil Thornton on April 26, 2010, 06:24:30 PM +0100
Unfortunately this track does seem prone to screen freezes but I've found this can be made less likely by setting the Detail Bias in the GPL->Options->Graphics window to about 25%.  It makes no noticeable difference to the quality of the graphics (at least I can't tell) but it seems to prevent the deadly screen freeze. 

I suggest we all adopt this approach when we are racing on a new circuit for the first time (e.g. Anderstorp, Carthage 1935 to name a couple).  As far as we know the new tracks we have chosen this season are all OK but it is better to be safe than sorry.  Especially if you have put in a lot of praccy.

Unlucky Mike T, grats Vos  :clap:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 26, 2010, 06:56:02 PM +0100
Unfortunately this track does seem prone to screen freezes but I've found this can be made less likely by setting the Detail Bias in the GPL->Options->Graphics window to about 25%.  It makes no noticeable difference to the quality of the graphics (at least I can't tell) but it seems to prevent the deadly screen freeze.  

I suggest we all adopt this approach when we are racing on a new circuit for the first time (e.g. Anderstorp, Carthage 1935 to name a couple).  As far as we know the new tracks we have chosen this season are all OK but it is better to be safe than sorry.  Especially if you have put in a lot of praccy.

Unlucky Mike T, grats Vos  :clap:

Anderstorp is particularly prone to freeze, but I hope we'll be OK. We didn't have any problems with Carthage when we it was ran in oAo 1-2 seasons ago. It takes a while to learn though, especially your braking and turn-in points, so practice it well in advance.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: FullMetalGasket on April 26, 2010, 07:01:51 PM +0100
You can bog off Hristo!  :P

I'm due at least one win after my engine related embarrassment at Monaco  ;D
(I wonder if I can report my own car to Tim for moderating?  :D )

Just a shame I'll be at the 'Ring for real during the next race, I recon a Lotus might have given me enough of an edge there ;) :angel:

What times are you down to in the Lotus?  8)

I seriously doubt I can win all of them in a Honda, it's not so much a problem of pace than motivation and focus. Instead of just bringing it home at Donington I kept pushing for records just to keep myself entertained and that backfired.
8:15 apparently - that's from about 2 or 3 laps I put in over a year ago mind  ;)
Not bothering to practice this given I'll be missing it  :(/ :)
Hoping to put the BT11 to good use though when the 65's reach Germany  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Rick Nauman on April 26, 2010, 10:27:42 PM +0100
had a scare going past Rick as he vanished just as I got alongside - was expecting a sickening crunch any second but luckily he beamed back to earth behind me.

After several not so graceful blue flag yields I developed that technique...  just vanish, then reappear behind!

Well done and congrats Evil!  

Well it's an absolute miracle that I finished the race through the hotel server.  I started from the rear on purpose so as not to take a chance causing a total wipe out of the field if I warped out at the start, but honestly my PB would have had me next to last anyway.  With more quality practice on my home machine I might have been only a 1/2 second faster. Damn you guys can race!

Nothing to report but slow laps and more concern for my connection than my racing.  Spent a lot of time watching my mirrors.  Somewhere around lap 30 my connections meters went waaaay up.  I was alone so I let it ride waiting for a kick out.  But after many seconds it all returned to normal.

Hoping for a better showing next time but the Green Hell has never been kind to me.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 26, 2010, 11:07:24 PM +0100
Congratualtions to Vos for his maiden win. Proves the old adage that to win you first have to finish.
Commiserations to Michael - I sort of know how you feel. I got the dreaded screen freeze on lap 22 - a bit easier to swallow than when running 1st on lap 40 plus.
Took me 5/6 laps to work out the brake point & turning point for the chicane. Whilst I was working this out I dropped to the back of the field. Having worked out the said problem I was lapping on par with the rest fairly consistently & picked up some places until the screen freeze. I can usually conjure up my own mistakes without the PC adding to them. On Phil's advice I've dropped the detail bias to quite low levels.
Now just to learn the Ring !!!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: Statmeister on April 27, 2010, 02:33:49 PM +0100
I'm not sure what Evil Clive is putting on his cornflakes but his recent stats have been mightily impressive; from his last 20 UKGPL races he's taken 17 podiums, including 8 wins, 5 poles & 4 fastest laps. And once again he took the consistency prize here, closely followed by Full Metal Gasket & King Hiro. Hristo continued to find bad luck in the race though in qualifying carved some 0.7 sec off the Honda World Record laptime.

Perfect consistency score (for both Works & Privateers) would be 215

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AwMtMND4F-o/S9bdbl1CcyI/AAAAAAAAAFY/nV1rU4234eQ/s1600/Works03.png)


Over in Privateers, Michael Turner can take some consolation from winning the consistency prize. Vosblod remains the only driver who can claim a 100% finishing record, in fact after 3 rounds he remains the only Privateer to have finished a race.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AwMtMND4F-o/S9bdUdQvWDI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/ZtFIHgQv7Oo/s1600/Privs03.png)
 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Donington Park (National) - Apr 25
Post by: b_1_rd on April 27, 2010, 07:44:46 PM +0100
Hristo continued to find bad luck in the race though in qualifying carved some 0.7 sec off the Honda World Record laptime.

My goodness! So it did! Surely you're going to upload that one H?!?