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Title: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on April 24, 2010, 10:24:58 PM +0100
Season 19 Spec Race Challenge - Round 3 - Silverstone

Back to more familiar territory for Round 3 of the Spec Race Challenge with a visit to Silverstone.

After two rounds there is a clear 1st / 2nd position developing in both Brigades. In Lights, Hristo leads the way with four wins in four races, closely followed by Tim Muttram with 3 x 2nd places. In the Heavy Brigade Steve Bird almost performed a similar feat but Phil Thornton spoiled his party.

We will run two races on the same circuit. Two chassis are available, you must use one in each race. Use the same car twice earns you a disqualification in the second race.
Your choice of chariot for this occasion is the 1965 Mod ~ Cooper versus the Rice Burner
 
The Spec Series is a full championship with standard points scoring. In addition the moderator will also tally up every drivers fastest race lap & compare the chassis head to head. For your time to count in the “Spec Challenge” you must complete more than 50% distance in both races. Resets are allowed so don’t retire because of a bad start.
Also the Spec Series in the only GPL championship to be decided exclusively by driver skill, no handicapping applies.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2 *
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 02-05-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Silverstone
Variant = 65 F1
Chassis –Cooper & Honda only
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 20 minutes. No wait time.
Race length = Intermediate Short
[* Second server kindly provided by Nicky Ickx]

Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=251&theme=6)
The track is the standard Papyrus version.


Unlimited Shift-R is allowed in the race. No-fault Shift-Rs will not attract a Stop & Go penalty.  All other Shift-Rs must be followed by a Stop & Go.

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time = GMT).

Due to the number of races moderating will be light touch - reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, the Light Brigade & the Heavy Brigade. The driver allocation is set out below.

LIGHT BRIGADE drivers
Burtoner
Evil Clive   
John Roberts   
Tim FMG   
Hristo       
Jethro   
Nicky Ickx   
Bartosz (Pod)   
King Hiro   
Clutch   
Al Hellar   
Ruud Savelkoul   
Sam B     
Fulvio P     
Natan
   
   
   

HEAVY BRIGADE drivers
Bernie       
Billy   
Bookie   
Maestro   
Norbert       
D Rock   
Fabio / Il Lupo   
N Hance   
Phil T   
Nigel Smith   
Gilles27   
Steve Bird   
Graham P   
Maddog   
Vosblod 
   
   
   
   
   
   



NOTE: In the event of more then 19 entrants a second grid for the Light Brigade will be run by Nicky. Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count. If you can try to make sure you are in the chatroom by 8.50pm this will enable a decision without any delays to the start time.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Hristo Itchov on April 25, 2010, 12:03:51 AM +0100
At last, I can drive the 65 Honda!!!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Turkey Machine on May 02, 2010, 03:48:18 PM +0100
Cooper and Honda. What a combo.

Will see if I'm around for this.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 02, 2010, 11:17:27 PM +0100
Big apology to everyone for the server mix up.

I forgot to change the default number of drivers in the race - so UKGPL7 would only allow 12/13 entrants. The remainder had a race of their own on Nicky's server. I suspect that combining the results may be a bit difficult (between Lights & Heavys) in which case results from Race 1 are potentially void. I had to find a way to stop Hristo winning!!

Totally down to me - goes on the long list of lessons to be learned.

... Bill




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: vosblod on May 02, 2010, 11:44:37 PM +0100
I forgot to change the default number of drivers in the race - so UKGPL7 would only allow 12/13 entrants. The remainder had a race of their own on Nicky's server. I suspect that combining the results may be a bit difficult (between Lights & Heavys) in which case results from Race 1 are potentially void. I had to find a way to stop Hristo winning!!
Fingers crossed we might be able to combine the results but, having tried something similar in the past, srou might not like it. Taking off my mods hat I think T7 should stand as everyone joined and raced in good faith. That said I appreciate not everyone will feel like that so guess there is the option of an end of season re-run?

Anyway enjoyed the two races, had some fun at the farther end. Second race I span and threw away loads of places only to find those that passed me returning the compliment further on.

BTW I know how easily things like that can be done Billy, so many boxes to check, especially in the heat of the moment.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 02, 2010, 11:49:21 PM +0100
Big apology to everyone for the server mix up.

I forgot to change the default number of drivers in the race - so UKGPL7 would only allow 12/13 entrants. The remainder had a race of their own on Nicky's server. I suspect that combining the results may be a bit difficult (between Lights & Heavys) in which case results from Race 1 are potentially void. I had to find a way to stop Hristo winning!!

Totally down to me - goes on the long list of lessons to be learned.

... Bill
Don't worry Bill, it isn't easy working under pressure.  Please send me a link to the html export and replay for the first race on Nicky's server and I'll amalgamate them into race 1 (it will be a bit fiddly but I think I can do it).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: b_1_rd on May 03, 2010, 02:41:12 PM +0100
Just  to reiterate to you guys, thanks for setting this up and all the work you put in to make it all happen.  I for one appreciate it certainly isn't easy.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: NickyIckx on May 03, 2010, 06:29:49 PM +0100
 ;D that was big fun !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phil :links to Ickx-server replay and results  :

http://rapidshare.com/files/383107702/Ickx_server_replay_spec_race_Laguna.7z.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/383107703/Ickx_server_GPLRA_spec_race__Laguna_Complete.7z.html


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 03, 2010, 10:37:51 PM +0100
Thanks Nicky

Results amalgamated and uploaded


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: b_1_rd on May 03, 2010, 10:49:24 PM +0100
NO WAY! 6th In race 1! That's outrageous!

Just messin.  Well done Phil for working that little lot out.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: vosblod on May 03, 2010, 11:07:37 PM +0100
Thanks Nicky
Results amalgamated and uploaded
Well done Phil - out of interest did you have to amend the GPLRA report or did you find another way?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Phil Thornton on May 04, 2010, 12:08:44 AM +0100
I had to amend the GPLRA report, I'm not aware of any other way (except editing the HTML export).  Replays and reports in usual place (i.e. here (http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/2010.05.02_Silver_Spec/)).  The combined GPLRA report for race 1 is there too if the Statmeister needs it ;)

The main thing that confuses SRou is when cars have the same number.  Not surprising really LOL.  Anyway changing the numbers for Nicky, D Rock, Maddog and Bernie sorted that bit.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Al Heller on May 04, 2010, 09:24:29 AM +0100
Thanks for sorting that out Phil! And agree that it's easily done Bill - the amount of times I've tried to host a practice but forgotten to open the ports or left it passworded.

Really enjoyed these races. Hadn't really driven the 65 Honda in anger so was surprised by how quick it was & even beat my overall PB in race 1. Took the Cooper in race 2 & was enjoying a nice squabble with Martin but managed to blow my engine so had to take a reset & SnG.   

 



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: FullMetalGasket on May 04, 2010, 10:33:34 AM +0100
Had great fun in race 1, was following and pressuring Clive for most of it only for the engine to blow with 4 to go as I was starting to think about making a move  ::)
Luckily there was enough room back to Al for me to ShiftR, but after my stop and go I was too far back to catch him before the line  :(
Great fun while it lasted though  ;D

Race 2 was a different story - Having done no practice at all prior to Sunday night I spent the practice session converting an old Clermont setup I had lying around to suit Silverstone.
It wasn't perfect but was good enough for a fairly comfortable 2nd on the grid behind Hristo. At the drop of the flag I out dragged H into T1 and then clung on for dear life for what felt like an eternity before finally missing my braking point into (T1 I think) and letting H through.
Had a decent gap back to the field by this point luckily and dived back into Hristo's slipstream to stay in contact, helped by my apparent ability to carry more speed into Becketts than H could.
I kept making the odd small mistake every 3 laps or so but thanks to Becketts,Woodcote and Hristo himself (Plus the slipstream  ;D ) always managed to get right back up behind Hristo - just never close enough to challenge him though  :-[
Then it all went to pot with 2 to go when I turned slightly early into Club but decided to leave my foot firmly on the floor to catch H a bit more - I'd done the same a couple of times in both race and Practice with no problems but my luck ran out and I span while i crossed the grass. Manged to regain control 360 degrees later, now down to 2nd gear and a country mile behind Hristo so just set about finishing as quickly and tidily as possible - only to clip the inside kurb at Abbey the next lap and spin again!  ::)
All in all I was damn lucky to stay ahead of Steve and Phil after what had been a very good drive by me  :hammer:

Well done guys - great race(s)  :rockon:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: EvilClive on May 04, 2010, 12:52:28 PM +0100
Don't feel too bad about the server Billy, I know how tricky it is and soooo easy to miss an essential setting. Shame for those who were excluded from the fun but it looks like Phil has performed a minor mathematical miracle and combined the results.

First race was great fun chasing Hristo in the Wazas ( with a wasa waza in 3rd!!!).
Hristo rightly accused me of making too many "over driving" errors to mount a serious challenge, but I enjoyed driving HER cars again.

Tim's sudden disappearance from my mirrors at Stowe was a relief and a shock as I could see he was getting ready to make my life difficult.

I owe Jethro an apology for the 2nd race as my kerb clipping at Abbey threw me into his path on the exit and ended both our chances of fighting for a podium place. By the time I had remembered to do a stop and go and rejoined the race I was battling with Nicky somewhere mid pack and enjoying the "chuckability" of the Cooper.
Hristo is still the man to beat by some margin as he always seems to have something extra available. This series does allow him the luxury of equal machinery, so if someone does beat him it will be a "true" result.............huh!! some chance eh??!! ::)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 04, 2010, 02:48:12 PM +0100
First, big thanks to Phil for sorting out the mess I'd made starting the server with default number of cars. Secondly, it has scuppered my dastardly plan of stopping Hristo from winning at least one race by voiding the Race 1.

Whilst it's a track I quite enjoy I seem to be unusually slow at Silverstone, starting at the back of the grid in both races. Managed to pick up a few places by having a relatively mistake free drive so at least Statto will give me some points in the Climbmeister table.

Really struggled trying to keep the Honda engine temperature out of the red but have been reliably informed that rice burns much hotter than petrol & it will quite happily go to 220 or 230 degrees. 

We do have 30 registered drivers for this series but have only run one grid in round 2 & round 3. It would be great to see a few more turn up for the next event which is at Porto. This is the 1958 city circuit. Probably new to many of you but it’s relatively quick to learn & should be good fun.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: EvilClive on May 04, 2010, 03:57:16 PM +0100
Is anyone else still using Pribluda MK1 like I am  ???. I find that with tyre temps/my split times/ time diffs ocross the the top of the screen that is more than enough distraction.

Incidentally....does prib suffer from lag??? as my incident with Jethro in race 2 was partially caused by a dodgy read out on prib.
On the run up to Abbey Jethro was showing as 0.5 secs behind, so I was just about to move across to take the full racing line when I heard an engine to my right. A quick glance confirmed that Jethro's Honda was in fact right alongside!!!.

I can't believe that he closed half a second gap in about 50 mtrs, as prib claims!!. The Cooper may not have the ultimate grunt of the Waza, but with my foot on the floor it is not THAT slow ???

The frustrating thing is that Prib does not get saved with the replay so there is no way of re-running that episode.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: NickyIckx on May 04, 2010, 04:14:53 PM +0100
Quote
Is anyone else still using Pribluda MK1 like I am  Huh. I find that with tyre temps/my split times/ time diffs ocross the the top of the screen that is more than enough distraction.

Incidentally....does prib suffer from lag??? as my incident with Jethro in race 2 was partially caused by a dodgy read out on prib.

I run prib too , but never did had such kind off trouble afaik.



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: vosblod on May 04, 2010, 05:17:26 PM +0100
Is anyone else still using Pribluda MK1 like I am  ???. I find that with tyre temps/my split times/ time diffs ocross the the top of the screen that is more than enough distraction.
Incidentally....does prib suffer from lag??? as my incident with Jethro in race 2 was partially caused by a dodgy read out on prib.
On the run up to Abbey Jethro was showing as 0.5 secs behind, so I was just about to move across to take the full racing line when I heard an engine to my right. A quick glance confirmed that Jethro's Honda was in fact right alongside!!!.
I can't believe that he closed half a second gap in about 50 mtrs, as prib claims!!. The Cooper may not have the ultimate grunt of the Waza, but with my foot on the floor it is not THAT slow ???
The frustrating thing is that Prib does not get saved with the replay so there is no way of re-running that episode.
I use MK1 with OpenGLv1 Clive. Tried running the OpenGLv2 with new prib but, to me, the graphics actually looked worse.
Not sure about lag but it does get confused sometimes and give funny readings, I tend to take it as a guideline only. Mostly, if there is a glitch re who is where, it sorts itself out after a lap. Also, for some reason, those who don't make it across the start line seem to stick in prib permanently in dark green.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Statmeister on May 06, 2010, 01:03:37 PM +0100
Here are the Statmeister results for Races 5 & 6 in the Spec Challenge.

Combining the results from the 2 servers in the first race caused a bit of head-scratching, but here at the Stat-Centre we decided that the only fair way to represent the High Climber scores was not to combine them & to use the separate results from each server. I understand overtaking is not easy in GPL & combining results just meant that some people gained 3 or 4 places without actually overtaking anyone (and likewise some people lost several places without being overtaken). Of course, laptime consistency was not affected by running 2 servers.

A perfect laptime consistency score for this race would be 60 (0.00 average variation over 12 laps).

Heavy Brigade:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AwMtMND4F-o/S-aQ8-T-_MI/AAAAAAAAAGo/MOP_T2zhYpo/s1600/SpecH03.png)

Light Brigade:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AwMtMND4F-o/S-KmLFF5JDI/AAAAAAAAAGA/_HablkJPtiw/s1600/SpecL03.png)

* Thanks to Billy NoBrakes for letting me know that I forgot to sort the Heavy table. Corrected now.




Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - May 2
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on May 08, 2010, 09:57:39 PM +0100
Yet more stats for you - table again courtesy of the Statmeister.

Interesting trend ~ the majority of the Novice drivers were faster in the Cooper than the Honda. Exception was Vosblod & after his performance in the Laguna 65 race he could be due for a promotion come the end of the season. Average result, from all drivers who completed more than half distance in both races was the Honda was about 6/10 th's quicker. Just to clarify the drivers are not intended to be shown in order - the comparision is of the chassis performance.

Layout is a bit different this time as the times were taken from the race results table - not the GPL Replay Analyser reports. The faster time is shown in green highlight.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AwMtMND4F-o/S-Pd_9VWPhI/AAAAAAAAAGI/ZknZNnCLL0w/s1600/Bill+02.png)