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Car: Riley Daytona Prototype
Track: Silverstone GP

Practice: 18:00 for 150 mins (approx)
Qualifying: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race: 20:45 34 laps, (approx 60 mins)

Start: Rolling - standard iRacing double file start
No fast tows will be available

Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

NOTE: All sessions protected by the main password.

Has the Riley got a lot faster? 34 laps in 30 minutes on the GP circuit is highly impressive!   :o ;)

Iain must have the Riley with nitrous and rocket boosters on...

Out of interest how does this rolling start work in iRacing, I've only done standing starts.

Gary

Oops, thanks guys. As you've no doubt noticed detail is most definitely not my strong point!

Races are 60 minutes.

It pretty much tells you what to do during the start.

Most helpful Dave...

I've not done a rolling start, I'm just trying to find out how it works so I know what to expect. Surely drivers being prepared would help to prevent T1 carnage.

Gary

 :lol:

OK.  Rolling start begins with everyone lined up 2 wide.  The pace car leads the field round for a single lap.  As the field gets to the start straight, make sure you are in correct formation.  Go when the green lights come on.

It's described in the iRacing Sporting Code (which obviously you've read, just like everybody else ;)) and, seriously, the thing tells you what to do during the pace lap.

(http://www.davegymer.org/images/orly/owl-truth.jpg)

Haven't actually bought the car yet, but when I do has anyone got a setup sorted yet? iR forum setups are about a year old for Silverstone, so I presume they aren't suitable?? Can't see one at Team Shark yet!!

I have just uploaded mine at TS.  I'm still fiddling with it though.

Mike, Dave

Thanks guys

Ken, try Shawn Purdy's from team Orion, thats working for me at the moment.

Gary

Thanks, I'll check them out.

Yeah thats not a bad set very oversteery though.. I found putting the front and rear ARB's to medium was much better, consistently 6 tenths quicker a lap

First impressions, nice car for a tin top!! Yes, the SP setup is a bit flighty! Don't open the throttle unless the car is pointing straight ahead. Mikes was much more manageable. Looking forward to the race.

Give me a target time guys! :)

Try and finish by Midnight Martin. One step at a time bud :).

:lol: :lol: You are such a funny guy  ;)

I have hit 1:44's so far.

:D

Nice setup Mike, was instantly comfortable with it. What a combo ;D

I nearly fell out with the car tonight. Jumped in to refamiliarise myself after completing a Mazda race at Road Am. Got very frustrated until my brain eventually tuned out the single seater style!! Like I have said elsewhere, I'm never the best at jumping from car to car!! I have managed a couple of high 43's but mainly mid to high 44's.

I hear that Ken, the Riley is a completely different animal.  The Mazda at Road America felt just awesome last night in my race, I really nailed a decent setup there.

Same here Ken even going from the V8SC to the Riley is quite tricky takes me a good 5 or 6 laps to adapt.


Similar times here , can run consistent low 44's with a 43 every now and then with around 10g of fuel.


Heres my set up.
http://www.filefront.com/16398127/DM_Riley_Silverstone_6-5-10.sto

Guys, do we have a mandatory pitstop for this race or is it non stop.

I seem to recall it was a stop but the announcement does not say.

Regards
Gary

Doh! Sorry guys, I'm not on the ball at all at the moment...  :wetfish:

Yes, there's a mandatory pitstop, same rules as UKGTR.

Announcement updated.

Can't wait  :P

I thought I ran here last official season but maybe not as my setup is virtually undrivable, with no grip at the rear at any speed. :o Can barely get into the 45s at the moment; might have to throw that setup away and start from a different base.

Yeah - I was having the same issues ....

1:43.733 now my best, but a sustainable race pace will be high 44s for me unless I discover some setup magic.

The new split time feature tells me I'm capable of a low 43!! But I doubt I'd ever actually see that. Be sure to share any magic you may discover Dave!! :)

Blimey this cars harder than the skippy  :D

So easy to spin, really didnt like it at first but gradually feeling better with it but its such hard work to keep it on the track. Was expecting a bit more after so many said it was really good  :-\

Mine says a 43.3 is on but I'm not sure I believe it as it doesn't account for setup changes - you have to clear all the splits really. I put my setup on the TS site, but all I really did was add more rear toe in and soften the dampers and rear springs. It's still a bit of a handful!

Another thing on the split time feature I've noticed. If you start a session and then leave and return to track a number of times it only ever logs the best time from the first stint as your best time. It does seem to continue to update any optimal times you set (as you say regardless of setup changes you may have made) but your actual best lap remains the best from the first stint. As you mention, clearing every time you enter the track is maybe the best way.

Having to miss out on this one. Moved house last weekend and still waiting for BT to activate the line this coming Friday. 16 working days is carp. Using a borrowed mobile dongle thing which is enough to connect, spawn a test session, then disconnect buts thats it at the moment.

Hope you all have a good one.

Thats strange , you would think it would always show your best lap regardless of session  ???        How does it work out your optimum lap ...  It says my optimum lap is 42.8 but if i put together my best sectors it dosn't come out as a 42.8  ???

Bummer !! Was looking forward to racing you mate/trying to keep up. ;D

Practice server is now available (use the password above)

what is the password, the usual is not working for me!

Gary

Guys, anyone?

Gary

Sorry Fred, yep it's the race one tonight so "daytona".

Sorry about the password confusion, I would have used the normal practice one but the announcement post said


Which I now see conflicts with the text in the password notification at the top of the page  :-\

I wasn't sure if you've been using the race one on Monday nights, haven't had time to free for a few weeks and I did try and make it clear in the server's up post that it was the password above, ie. in this thread, just incase there was some confusion ;) Anyway there were only 2 to try!

Well you knocked nearly a second off that tonight Dave. Was that purely down to reduced fuel, or just getting more familiar with the car? I tried the setup you shared but it was a bit tight for me, I couldn't get it to turn. I'm still more comfortable with Mike's settings.

So far, a lot of the Riley setups I've tried as set really soft, and they don't respond right for me at all.  I need the car stiffer so I can carry some speed into turns, then stable on the power coming out.

No worries Pete, I had a nice little drive on my own and set a new pb. I was more worried because I have built a new PC and its the first time I've tried to log on to a hosted race.

Hopefully I'll see you tomorrow guys...

Gary

Annnnd I can't go any faster  ???

I'm not really liking the feel of the car round here, feels very sloppy and imprecise.

I also like harder setups and I tried it here, even went as far as 1200/1000. Car was more stable and responsive but utterly rubbish in slow corners - a spin fest and slower laptimes to boot. Strange, as I set any other car on this track harder than elsewhere. :-\  Will see on other tracks. So far this car is below my expectations.

I'm still searching for the right words to explain the difference between pre-official practice and official practice. ::)


As I said in chat, I did that run on low fuel. I got my race fuel time down to about 43.4 but it's not a sustainable race pace. The 42s were all on minimum fuel.

Silverstone is always a tricky place in terms of setup. You want stiff suspension and downforce for the fast corners, but that compromises you really badly in the slow stuff. With soft suspension you need to be rolling the car into the corners very smoothly; Maggots/Becketts is especially tricky because you have to try and get the car rolling back before each change in direction is on top of you.

After week 1 in the DP/Rad series (and a shocking - and short - race courtesy of some numpty in a Radical and lap 1 heroics) and a good number of laps at Daytona, the feel of the car here was totally different, and took all night to get to grips with.

I'm looking forward to tonights race though - there definately going to be a sense of achievement just getting to the finish :D

I'm just glad the race is only going to be 60 seconds long....otherwise it'd be really tough!

If I had read your message at the top of the page I would have used the normal practice password but I had seen Pop's comment and was just looking for a password. Too much haste to get the server running. BTW someone's spelt including wrong in the main password announcement text at the top of the page.

Sorry for the confusion over the password guys, I should have made it clearer to Pete.

Im not sure i feel confident enough with this car yet to race tonight, after a few nights testing on my own i thought i had found a good setup, stable and constantly in the high 43's but i came on the practice server last night and my setup didnt work at all and felt totally different  ??? 

Dave's setup finally got me somewhere near the times i was doing.

Spent the first hour last night getting down to a low 1.45 and then next 2 hours getting slower!  :'(

We should probably just drop any mention of the password from the announcement, or just have a link to the text like we do in UKGTR.

If anyone can thinking of a clearer wording thanplease speak up. Even I can't understand it and I wrote it! ::) :D

You could just put "Practice Password: xxxx".
And "Race Password: xxxx".

I'm not sure you need the last part ('including the pre-race practice and qualifying sessions') as the practice & qual bits are all part of the same event.

Monday = xxxxxxx
Tuesday = yyyyyyy

 ;D

Happy Days? Thursday Friday, Happy Days?

Yeah agree.. Through the quick stuff you really need to have all the weight transfered and settled before trying to find the apex.  Really enjoying this car. :)

You been eating green mushrooms again? ;D
Or you plan on T1 mayhem? :P

Hmm, I blended Daves setup with mine and seem to be getting on much better with that.  Running with 10 gallons of fuel I am getting similar pace, so it's more promising.

Now to work out if I need to change tyres or not  ::)

I did a first stint simulation run last night with 8.5 g which was 15 laps and the tire wear for me wasnt too bad,  74/76 % left on th front and 86/89 % on the rear  .  I think the tires would last the whole race for myself but obviously depends on set up and driving style.

Ahhh, 60 minutes....

Damn, I was really hoping for something to sting Pops... ;)

I've given you plenty of opportunities recently!

Should be OK then.  I did the full Daytona official series race non-stop, that's about an hour too.

What did you change then Mike? As I say I am pretty happy with your original, especially for the race, but I tried with low fuel last night and couldn't go any faster.

Dave runs more front camber, lower tyre pressures and more rear camber to keep it stable.  I then added a soft rear roll bar, took out some fuel and it gained me some time.  I am still tweaking it, but there will only be tiny changes now TBH.

Be very careful on kerbs though.

Server will be late, just tried to launch it and waiting for the session to start and got


That's all I see now trying to access any page @ iracing :-\

Me too  :(

Mmm, it's showing down for maintenance for me. Typical, I have to do my taxi run tonight so I will only just make it back for qually, so if I don't get any laps in before leaving I will be turning up stone cold. Probably best if I don't actually qually but just start from the back if that's the case!!

No, not really, any practice is better than no practice!!

Hopefully will postpone if it isnt back in time  :laugh:

Back up now

Running very sloooooowlllyyyyy though!

It's fine for me.

Just starting a hosted session again, for 18:40 - 1:50 practice


SERVERS UP :)

Thanks Mike, I'll give it a try.

iR seems fine for me now. :)

You might not see me racing again for a while after that .... totally my fault mind.  Got on the grass, hit a wall, quit in disgust.

Never managed a lap before the start of the race due to having to deal with a screaming baby - and a total lack of feel showed in probably the most abysmal display I've ever managed.

200 laps of practice without a glitch then blow the engine on lap 5 or something stupid !! ::)....Was shaping up to be a good one .

Big apologize to Gary Hickman. I hit his car just before "Going green". I guess the cause was a rippling effect of grid gathering closer. I didn't feel I was closing too fast. Then his car suddenly slowed and there was contact. Sorry again. :(
Car was damaged, though the contact was nothing to write home about. >:( Asymetric while braking and accelerating, it was a constant danger - Shark almost hit me as the car just stepped sideways during braking - so I decided to quit.

Sorry again, Gary. Saw you could drive on and I hope your car wasn't as damaged and you could do a normal race. :-[

Didn't really have the prep time I normally manage, but was close enough to others to enjoy it.
Found the car quite a tough drive, but it's the 1st time I've spent any proper time in it so not judging it yet.

Basically, once I dropped off the back of the pack due to a couple too many hairy moments on my own with kerbs etc, I just kept going for the experience till the leaders came round. Decided that was time to quit so I didn't spoil it for others & I'd had my time in the car anyway :).

Looking forward to getting in the more familiar Mazda next week. 8)

Haven't tried the car since last season and whatever they've done to it, it now feels like it did when they first released it. All lairy and handling is affected by the weight shift so much. Gone from really liking the car to not liking the car at all again. Hmm.

Qualified as fast as I was going to and steady start to the race to bed me in. TT had a really slow lap 1 in front and lost it at the end of bridge corner.

Then was a bit lonely for a while, until I couldn't brake anymore, wheels were locking up everywhere. Moved the BB from 55 to 50 and that sorted that out till I pitted at half distance to get on some new rubber and add another 9.9 gallons.

Car felt better with new tyres and I was back into the 1:44s. Chased Gary down with the other Gary chasing me down. Had some contact with the chasing Gary and then the Gary ahead went off to gift me a position. With 3 to go braking into the hairpin I lost it completely and did a merry uncontrolled whizz across the grass and then tarmac and then I think grass again. Got going, but Gary had already taken the place back whilst I was off. Cruised home to the finish.

Really need to find out if it's the setup or that the physics changes they've done have changed the car to my disliking now. IndyCar feels wierd now as well, so my two favorite cars don't seem normal to me anymore.

Well, my first taster of the DP was a very enjoyable one.

I'd only purchased the car this evening and after half a dozen offline laps decided I'd take the plunge and get an hours practice pre-qually.  The paint was still tacky on my new steed as I ventured out with the intention of trying to gather as much feel for the car as I could.  

I think iRacing have done a fantastic job of conveying the sheer weight of this thing compared to the single seaters.

Anyway, throughout praccy and qually, I kept the tank topped up with race fuel levels as I wanted to get as much information as possible about how the car would perform in race trim.  I was somewhat surprised therefore, to qualify 11th I think, just ahead of Ken and just behind Simon.

I decided to allow plenty of room on green and was content in allowing Ken to leapfrog me so I could settle in behind.  I was keeping up until I got my LR on the kerb before Bridge and spun.  I could only sit and watch as everyone passed me, leaving me dead last.  Undeterred, I set off in search of some consistency and clawed back a couple of spots, only to lose it through Maggots twice in the next 10 laps.  

After these initial trials and tribulations, I managed to settle down and bang in some decent-ish laps.  Had a nice little battle with Spanner, then Ross a bit later, made a shoddy pitstop and trundled home 11th, a lap down, but pleased nonetheless.

I think I could grow to like this car.  Grats to Paul on the win and also Mike and Dave on the remaining podium positions.

TT i didnt even notice  ???   Might explain why i wasnt able to do my normal race pace but the car felt okish.  

Man that was exhausting!  :o

Nailed a really good lap to get 3rd on the grid and held that place at the start.  I was over-driving the car in the early laps but once I forced myself to settle down I was lapping well and pulling away from Dave.  It was looking like a battle for 2nd with Dan, when he blew his engine!

Paul was pulling steadily away now, so it looked like 2nd would be my lot.  Made my stop on lap 17, took fuel but no tyres (perhaps a mistake) and got out a few seconds ahead of Paul!  Next time round, Dave exited the pits and slotted in between us.  I now had a tail-gunner and the lead.  I couldn't pull away though, and once Paul got past Dave, he closed so fast that I knew I was history.  Sure enough the pass I was expecting came and all that remained was to pace myself to the finish and 2nd place.

I'm very happy with that  ;D

Grats to Paul (untouchable) and Dave (for not letting me relax)

Sounds like it was a gooden!!

I managed a good qually lap early on and decided to load up the car with racing fuel for a few more laps of practise.. 

BIG MISTAKE!  Both Gizmo and Michael beat me by a few hundredths in the dying seconds to relegate me from 3rd back to 5th on the grid.  This soon became 6th as James jumped me at the start.  After a few laps I soon realised the podium places had gone.  Although I felt faster than James there was no way to pass safely (great defensive driving James).  The leaders were pulling away every lap, but  there was nothing I could do. :(  After 12 laps I decided my only way past was via the pits, so I pitted early.  It worked!!!  6 laps later James left the pits 4 seconds behind me.  Initially James put the hammer down and closed to within 2 seconds, but after the advantage of fresh rubber wore off I was able to pull away gradually...

After the leaders pitted Gizmo was 17 seconds ahead of me.  Looking at the lap times both he and Michael had gained 9 seconds on me via the pit stop...  How do you guys do this?  :notworthy:

I raced as hard as I could and I managed to drop the gap down to just under 3 seconds by the end.  Close but no cigar....

Congrats to the podium..

Great race...

I was still chasing 43 laps earlier this evening when really I should have been settling on a race setup. At the last minute I threw on Dan's setup that he posted last week. It felt so good through the fast corners that I decided to risk it for the race. My qually was always going to be rushed but a low 44 got me pretty much mid pack.  I wasn't sure about fuel so played it safe with 14 gals.

I followed Simon at various distances up to the pit stops but the setup was proving to be very difficult through the last two corners. I should have put new rubber on at my stop but most people had said it would last the race. By the end I was nearly at walking pace through the final two bends and to cap it all, and maintain my usual chaotic iRacing form, the engine blue with two to go. That lost me a couple of places as I toured round belching out black smoke.

Sorry chaps the import process has defeated me, awaiting help/instruction.

We didn't change tyres.  Changing them makes the stop about 9 seconds longer.  However, the handling was getting rather.... interesting by the end of the race.  I checked at the end and the front-left tyre was down to 45%, the others were around 60%

That explains it then..... Thanks...

I guess I should have done the same.  Due to my early pit stop my final stint was 22 laps long...  My tyres still felt good at the end and my pace didn't drop...

We didn't think it was worth the extra time.  Paul changed his and he more than made up the time he lost.

If you already have a decent gap, it's worth not changing, otherwise it's a tough call.

As you might expect, I enjoyed that a lot  :) Looking at the times from last night and knowing Gary Tall's impressive practice times it looked like being a pretty close battle up the front. I watched Dan in practice do a 42.8 and hoped he was on qual fuel, only to see him do 20 laps in the stint!  :o I was expecting both him and Gary to be nudging a 41 in qual, but Gary was clearly playing catch up and Dan didn't get a really good lap in, leaving me on pole. I practiced a standing start several times at the end of qual, only to remember that we were doing a rolling start  ::) This gave me a clean run to T1, and it looks like everyone got through T1 safely. Dan stayed pretty close for the first few laps, but around lap 5 he started to drop back a bit and a lap later he blew his engine (changing down at T1 I think). This left me with a nice little gap to Mike which I could manage to the pitstop, leaving me around 7 secs ahead. I guessed that many would opt to not change tyres but I knew I was at least half a sec slower on old rubber, and with 17 laps to do it on the sums didn't add up for me. Mike and Dave both jumped me in the pits this way but I came out right on Dave's heels with mike just ahead, so there was plenty of time. Dave defended really hard for a few laps, including one moment where we were side by side in T1 - sorry, I locked up on entry a touch and got closer than intended. In the end my new tyres let me set up a run down to stowe and I was past. A lap later and I had another Shark car to get past, but this time it was a bit easier - I had a good run through Bridge when Mike was a tad slow, so I stayed left and braked late. Mike went round the outside at Priory but the longer distance there and at Brooklands meant I was ahead by the exit and that was that. With fresher tyres I could then ease off and still inch away. Mike was still doing great times though on his worn rubber - I really expected you to fade more than that  :thumbup1:

Grats to Mike and Dave on the podiums. Big shame that Dan lost his engine early on though as he was very quick. Looking forward to more of the DP now as I feel it has a lot to offer as a SimRacing car. You can set it up in many different ways to suit your style and ability, it can be quite pointy if needed but isn't snappy in the way that the Dallara is.

Yes very dissappointed last night, I was home very late due to the trains again then had to help my daughter with her homework so did not have time to get into a rhythm in practice or qually. As Paul has kindly said I have been edging ever closer to a 41 in practice so was pretty unhappy with my grid slot.

I was even more unhappy when I spun twice on the same corner but around the time of the pitstops I started to find my pace. Simon went wide at the end of Hangar Straight and left me with a nice gap and I made the pass but as he has said we had contact and it finished my race.

I really like the DP and was pleased to be the only driver doing a 42 in the race, oh well next time boys ;D

Well done to the podium chappies.

Gary

Yep, really enjoyed that too...

I agree with Simon, the car isn't as much fun anymore!?
I thought it was just the car and track combination but you have to be so careful not to over drive it now!  ???
After 3 hours of practice on Monday, I jumped in the car last night and it felt like I had never driven it before!
Very strange!

I could only manage low 1.45's in lots of practice and very nearly didn't put in a quali time at all with an incident each lap!

Went back to Dan's set up in the end which was great if not a bit twitchy if you were too agressive!

Started in about 12th and raced without incident pretty much the whole way! Ken blowing his engine near the end was the only excitement! Never seen so much black smoke!  ;)
That left me 8th which is roughly where I should be so no complaints!

Well done all on a good clean race! Tricky on the first couple of laps!  ;)

and obviously well done to all the podium guys!  ;D

Very good race for me. I'd felt quite comfortable Monday and had done a couple of 42s on low fuel, but in official practice I just couldn't get the car how I wanted it and was really struggling. Was still nowhere in qualifying so I went back to an earlier setup and made a small tweak, and presto chango slapped a 43 dead in to take 4th place in the dying seconds.

Had to defend a bit on the first lap or two until I got a tiny gap open up behind, and carried on attacking Mike for another lap or two as the front two broke away, until I made a little mistake and Mike got a little gap and was able to just drive away slowly. Then Dan blew his engine and that promoted me to third, and we all held station until the stops.

I didn't plan to change tyres, so I was leaving my stop as late as possible to avoid the penalty of carrying excess weight around. Mike and Paul both stopped a lap or two earlier which temporarily gave me the lead, and my stopped went perfectly, with two lapped cars exiting their boxes just as I came in to give me a clear run into my stall.

I guessed Mike would not change tyres and Paul would, and sure enough I came out just behind Mike and just ahead of Paul. ;D I managed to keep Paul behind for a few laps but on worn rubber I was fighting a losing battle, and after a hairy mistake-filled run through Maggots/Becketts he got a big run on me out of Chapel and I pulled left on Hangar Straight rather than risk a fight I'd most likely lose into Stowe. A few laps later he pulled a great move on Mike into Priory and made it stick out of Brooklands and we were back in 'natural order'.

The last half a dozen laps were interesting (in the Chinese curse sense) as the tyres passed some sort of threshold and the grip got dramatically worse. I could see Darren was catching me hand over fist, and wished I had changed tyres, but I managed to find the right balance between preserving what was left of the rubber and not haemorrhaging so much time that he could catch me before the flag.

Bottom rung of the podium was a great result, probably better than I deserved. My only real disappointment was that my setup didn't allow me to do doughnuts. ::) :D


Yeah; I noticed in practice that I was perilously close to bouncing off the limiter downshifting in T1 and forced myself to delay the shift to avoid engine problems. I think Ken must've been downshifting early too as he lost a place on the final lap with his car smoking heavily. :laugh:


55?! :o No wonder you were locking up! Apparently in real life they run them with <50% front bias... I think I ended up on 50%.


I'm Googling for GreaseMonkey script update problems right now... I spent 20 minutes fixing it on my games box last night. ::)

How did we get away with this Dave?

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.harrington/dg%20copse.JPG)

I would have expected you at least to get some contact. As I said, my fault as the car got away from me on the brakes.

Holy carp! I had no idea we were that close! :o :laugh:

A quick check of the calibration of my controls at the end of practice left me with no controls - although iRacing would let me calibrate them it wouldn't save them for some reason.

After a few restarts/reboots, I just deleted the iRacing config file and jumped back in to find the race about to start.  Finally managed to save the control calibration, but when I started the race I realised that everything else settings wise had been reset.  An hour of trying to see where the corners were in the ZX Spectrum like 'mangled triplescreen' view I was left with left my eyes nearly bleeding and as a result was badly off the pace all the way through with far too many half spins.

Had a bit of early dicing with Legzy and Picnic and later on with Brendan but apart from that it was a fairly uneventful race.

A tyre change only added an extra 6 seconds in the pits so I'm glad I did that but my pace wasn't really good enough to make the most of the new ones anyhow.

Catching Ken's smoking car for was fun and really adds to the realism.

60 minutes felt a bit on the long side for me to be honest.

Congrats to those up front - really amazing pace!

Cheers, Ross.

Same here i was carefull in practice from my experience at Daytona in the DP but i think i was trying so hard to pull Paul back in after i had made a mistake at the Abbey Chicane ,  Should have just settled down.
Was really gutted as the first 5 laps behind Paul was awesome!! ;D

How did everyones tires feel ??  I noticed a massive change after about 5 laps ,seems like they go past the peak and you have to really be smooth but you can still run the same times.

Really love the DP , although quite twitchy it really reacts nice when balancing the car with the throttle and brakes. 
I cant really notice any difference with the new updates but i hadn't used the DP since the Daytona 2.4 hrs.

Well done to the podium and everyone who saw the chequered flag.

Could someone be so kind to snip the first 7 laps of the race replay and send it to my email. ??

Thanks

We did much better this week with 13 finishers out of 19, the week before was 10 from 20  ::)

Dan, I ended up using your setup. Don't know if you tweaked it all after posting earlier, but it was perfect everywhere except the really tight stuff ie Vale, Brookland and Luffield. It was awsome through Maggots, Becketts, Stowe and Bridge. I did find top gear a little short as I could get such good drive on to the Hangar Straight. I just went one stop higher and didn't have time to thoroughly test it as I only actually tried your setup immediately before the race. Anyway that meant the gap from 4th to 5th was just a little too big and I ended up really hanging on to 4th before changing up, maybe another reason for my engine blow. I am always guilty of downchanging too quickly though. it's a hangover from racing lightweight two-stroke motorbikes for 10+ years!!!! But yes I felt the tyres went off and I should have changed them at my stop. It really made me suffer through those slower corners towards the end of the race. Do you have an aggressive, throw it in style, to get it round those tighter bends?

You didn't notice because he didn't hit you. It was me! :(

The car was a little strange which I think contributed to two spins on the same corner.

These things happen TT, don't worry about it :)

Gary

Which set did you use Ken? The one from filefront or the one i shared on the server Monday night?    The set i shared on the server had a stiffer front ARB which made it a bit btter through the quick stuff.

No i wouldnt say i was throwing it in to the slower stuff just waiting for all the cars weight to transfer and settle before turning then it feels quite pointy .  I did find that the DP dosn't like alot of trail braking it would just make it understeer.   



I know what your saying there mate, raced 2 stroke motocross for a few years cant say i ever worried about how fast i changed down just samshed it straight down the box .   Remember the first time i rode a 4 stoke motocross bike i was bouncung of the rev limiter in every gear.......   ! :D

It was the filefront version, I hadn't noticed the one on the server. But I was quite happy with it through the fast stuff. I did find that it would turn in nicely by coming right out of the throttle, as you say it didn't like trail braking, another inherent trait of mine! What I was struggling with was getting it back on the power. I didn't seem to get enough initial rotation on turn in and then seemed to have to wait forever before it was pointing straight enough to apply the throttle . At one point I tried using more lock, which meant feeding the wheel through my hands, but that nearly ended in disaster as I wound it back out. Even a G25 wheel diameter is too small to drive like that!! That was the point that Gary and Simon got away from me and I never made the time back up.

Gotta say Silverstone has very low grip,   Just did a few laps round PI in the DP and its on rails.!!

I think it's the invisible cambers that do it. You can't see camber in a sim unless it's massive (like oval banking!), but you can certainly feel it if you slide to the outside of a corner like Stowe, Club or Brooklands.

Yeah good point there.