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Title: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: vosblod on June 14, 2010, 01:22:23 PM +0100
We're off to France for race seven, with a track last run on 67's in Season 14. Out of the 13 drivers in that race Evil, Bernie, Phil and Hristo are still with us. In up to date news Al H leads the Works but Tim FMG or Clive may yet overturn his lead. Over in the Privates Vos clings on to the lead with Billy coming through as a new contender. However it's not all over yet and Mike, Bernie or Ronnie could still upset the apple cart.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 20-06-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Le Mans Bugatti 67
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 30)

Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=248;theme=6)
The track can be downloaded from : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1277 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1277)
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1029 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1029)

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left. Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=248&theme=6). Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, namely Works and Privateers. The driver split will be;

WORKS drivers
Phil T        
Evil  
John R    
Tim FMG    
Steve Bird        
Jethro    
Al H    
Bartosz (Pod)    
King Hero    
Rick    
Baab    
Hristo (R)    
Sam B (R)    
Fulvio P (R)    
Ruud Savelkoul (R)    
Dwarf Car Driver (R)  
Doni Yourth (R)    
   
   
   
   

PRIVATEERS drivers
Bernie    
Burtoner    
Mike Turner    
Vosblod    
Bookie W (R)    
Billy    
Fabio (Il Lupo)    
Rafael Mestdag      
Graham (R)    
Pete Maestro (R)    
Nigel Smith (R)    
D Rock (R)    
Hannah (R)  
Ronnie Peterson (R)  
Maddog    
   
   
   

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: In the event of more then 19 entrants a second grid will be run for the Privateers on ukgpl.5. (ping myjamesonline.net) Instructions will be provided in the chatroom – please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count. If you can try to make sure you are in the chatroom by 8.50pm this will enable a decision without any delays to the start time.

Bugatti Circuit uses a part of the circuit used for the famous 24 Hours of Le Mans race and a separate, purpose-built section and is named after Ettore Bugatti. The sections of track on the Bugatti Circuit that are on the Circuit de la Sarthe include the Ford Chicane at the end of the lap, the pit complex, and the straight where the Dunlop Tires bridge is located. The track was used for the 1967 French Grand Prix, won by Jack Brabham, but was not popular and Formula 1 has not returned since.

PS: If anyone has noticed a 'blank' for the race on 25 July (race 9) I can confirm this event will be at Carthage 35 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=1436) - srou wll be updated in due course


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 14, 2010, 05:10:32 PM +0100
Not a fan of Bugatti circuit, have yet to drive a version I like in any mod/game.  :(
 Pretty sure my strategy sheet has me in a shed for this too!  ::)

Tim FMG

For the sake of simplicity feel free to just use FMG, most of the old timers on one of my other forums do even when talking to me in real life  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 14, 2010, 05:34:03 PM +0100
The track can be good fun when everyone is racing in similar cars, but slower cars have a big disadvantage because of the hard acceleration and braking zones. I like it from technical point of view though, takes a lot of precision to deliver a good lap.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 14, 2010, 07:27:34 PM +0100
Won't be around for this one, am doing Beverley Folk festival this weekend. Enjoy it!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: EvilClive on June 14, 2010, 09:23:10 PM +0100
oh dear!! looks like Hristo is a lone Waza for this race..I'm off for a camping trip for a week::)

She will expect nothing less than victories H   ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Ronniepeterson on June 20, 2010, 10:30:35 AM +0100
Any chance of a practice server? :helpsmilie:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: vosblod on June 20, 2010, 11:51:17 AM +0100
Any chance of a practice server? :helpsmilie:
Sorry can't run 6 as no access to my GPL pc until later. Will try to put it up if I get back early...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Ronniepeterson on June 20, 2010, 12:01:21 PM +0100
Thanks for the reply.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: vosblod on June 20, 2010, 04:33:52 PM +0100
Any chance of a practice server? :helpsmilie:
Sorry can't run 6 as no access to my GPL pc until later. Will try to put it up if I get back early...
6 and T7 are now up


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Samb on June 20, 2010, 10:22:25 PM +0100
A rather lacklustre way to return. Qualified around mid-pack somewhere, had a great start, passing Tom, Al and Fulvio by lap 1, and was driving comfortably in 2nd. That was short-lived however, as I ran wide on that lap into the gravel and never really recovered. I was making far too many errors around the circuit, but was still enjoying the track. Was running solidly in 7th, until I got the dreaded screen freeze  :censored:.

Ah well, now that I've got the taste for sim-racing once again, I'll be doing my best to attend the rest of the races this season. Congrats to all that finished  :).


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: b_1_rd on June 20, 2010, 10:24:16 PM +0100
With virtually no time to practise and having spent all weekend out at Castle Combe, I was well off pace and kinda fed up being the token slow guy, so packed up.

btw - 9 drivers really isn't fun for me.  There is a huge gap between privateers and works right now, and I fit well into the middle of the two.  Now I'm not sure what or how, but if the low driver numbers continue, there needs to be a review in how Grads is run.  This is not the way to encourage new people in!

Off soap box.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: bernie on June 20, 2010, 10:29:24 PM +0100
Bummer for me , rare turnout in the brabby , race in the bag,  20 odd secs lead on Vos with 17 to go , just thinking about doing cruise mode and short shifting and the bleedin camshaft does one , wouldn't mind I fitted taller gears for the race  ::)

Thought the bleedin Repco engine was bulletproof , should have known better  :-\

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Michael Turner on June 20, 2010, 10:58:54 PM +0100
Had a spin at T3 on L1 which left me about half a mile behind the pack so it was a pretty lonely race apart from swapping places with Martin a few times before he had a big off. But I did manage the fastest lap -  a career first I think:D

Commiserations to Bernie - I thought you were getting close enough to lap me at one stage.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: vosblod on June 20, 2010, 11:21:43 PM +0100
20 odd secs lead on Vos with 17 to go , just thinking about doing cruise mode and short shifting and the bleedin camshaft does one
Sorry to hear that Bernie. I had gone into cruise myself settling for a possible second as I knew the Vos consistency couldn't outdo an old pro like you  ;)
With all these engine blow outs I keep dreading the day when my time will come.

Anyway after settling for second and being 'gifted' the top spot I went into 'drive to survive' mode, I had visions of Bill repeating the mantra 'spin Vos spin Vos' behind me - turns out I wasn't far wrong but don't blame him  ;)

So a win is a win - very pleased. And thanks to Hannah for making it easy to pass.
Must admit I liked the split grids although slightly lonesome but can see Steve's point. It's all open to debate for Season 20 so thoughts on the mid-season thread would be good https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7965.0 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7965.0)

PS;
But I did manage the fastest lap -  a career first I think:D
WD Mike

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=post;topic=5133.msg93319;quote=93319;sesc=7ddd41f0b56eec35b584a18abcbf3ad5 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=post;topic=5133.msg93319;quote=93319;sesc=7ddd41f0b56eec35b584a18abcbf3ad5)
I currently hold the record as the slowest driver so if you find yourself at the back of the grid you'll see me there  :D
Cheers
If you wait around long enough.  ;) You might get five wins


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: bernie on June 21, 2010, 08:39:16 AM +0100
Luck of the draw Vosb , congrats on the win , I wasn't expecting to do well here anyway so not that dissapointed

Looks as if Ronnie had a camshaft fail , wondered what happened to him , early on he seemed to be pushing hard , my Prib wasnt showing any kind of race data so only the pit board info for me , my connection was poor too and I was half expecting another disco , also I was fighting off cramp in my right foot which was starting to become a problem , think I would have had to finish the race with just me left foot for both braking and gas pedals, that would have made things a little more interesting . At least Team mate Mike got a podium finish and FL to go with it , well done mate


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Billy Nobrakes on June 21, 2010, 12:03:11 PM +0100
Not an easy circuit. Found it difficult to maintain any sort of speed through the slow corners. Found out that late braking was a bit of a no-no if you want to avoid the sand traps which felt like they had be coated with a dollop of glue.
After the first few laps and early casualties I had Vos in front & Mike T behind, both by around 0.5 mile give or take. Bernie disappeared after 17 laps & it stayed like that till the chequered flag. Apart from lapping Hannah who had a dodgy engine or  had taken up chain smoking it was a very uneventful race. (Thanks to Hannah for tucking in & making room). Have to admit I was hoping Vos might have a minor spin, not to give me the lead, just enough to close up enough to be in race.

Whilst mixed grids do present there own challenges empty grids are just dull.  (agree with Steve on that one).
Best solution would be to get more cars on the grid. If any occasional drivers have suggestions to improve the format for next season (as Vos suggests) post them on the mid term review. Views on choice of tracks, handicapping (the tokens system) & Pro damage and anything else all welcome.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Ronniepeterson on June 21, 2010, 01:02:29 PM +0100
I blew it literally. Congrats to those who made it to the end.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 21, 2010, 05:54:43 PM +0100
I narrowly snatched the pole from a very fast Tom (KingHiro) and Al, so I wasn't expecting to have it easy in the race. Sadly my expectation were proven wrong right on lap 1...

Tom had the better start or his Lotus performance did it, whichever it was (I think I had a good start actually!), so he powered through to the lead on the entry to T1 and then defended the inside line after running wide a bit before that and opening a gap for which I went.

He kept the inside line as I moved over to the outside and we started braking together for the first hairpin. I attempted to go around the outside of the corner, but suddenly I saw Tom's car drifting wide just in front of me and into the gravel, so the lead was now mine.

For whatever reason the other cars behind dropped back and now I was running on my own and extending my lead to about 2 seconds from Fulvio. Fulvio had a very good pace, in fact he was closing up on me in some laps, so I was looking forward to his challenge.

This 2 seconds gap remained for a very long time and I was thinking "come on Fulvio, you can do it" because I was getting a bit bored with the repetitiveness of the laps. It was good that we had separated fields though as there were no backmarkers and it was much easier to stay focused and keep your rhythm.

Sadly Fulvio went off or something, because he disappeared from my mirrors and now I had Al at about 10 seconds behind, but he couldn't close up the gap, so in the final laps I really went for it to get the fastest lap if possible.

Happy for the win, but hopefully my competitors won't hand me the victory on a silver plate on lap 1 next time.  ::)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: fpolicardi on June 21, 2010, 06:09:34 PM +0100
I was driving a confortable 2nd a couple of sec. behind H and with 5 sec. gap on Al when my 12 cil. muted on the hump of T1 at 13 lap. I'd have had to set 5th longer to not overrev too much over the hump :(
Ciao


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: maddog on June 21, 2010, 07:27:08 PM +0100
Not much to write home about here.  I'm new to 67 competition, and presently in, 'one lap wonder' mode.
Nonetheless, from pole, I was duly impressed at how Bernie managed, not to run over my squirrel impressions, as he switched quickly to survival mode.

Sir Jacks cars were known for their reliability in 67.  Except my non-works car became just that, when it blew up in only 10 laps, so at least I beat 1 or 2 there! :P

Well done to our moderators who gave all, but their motors, a proper thrashing.  But could I request you
temporarily turn off the servers Auto-win mode, Tim.  One is supposed to believe in moderation!!  :P  


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: bernie on June 21, 2010, 09:37:22 PM +0100
LOL Ron Tauranac would have a fit if he saw all the leftover Brabham bits .

I think my engine failure was mostly due to using a hot lap set up I "borrowed" in spite of me using taller gears for the race .

I dont think the thing appreciates having its backside thrashed , that or my downshifting was a bit to severe in places  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Rick Nauman on June 22, 2010, 01:17:56 AM +0100
Arrrgh!  I'm really sorry to have missed the race!  I had practiced for a couple of hours over the course of the last two weeks and was, by the looks of it, on a pretty good pace with a Brab PB in the low 38's.  But damn it, I got caught up in home activities on Sunday afternoon (Father's day) and just spaced it out.  I hate that.  A let down for me and I feel like it's a let down to you guys.  Trust me, I am interested in racing with you guys and promise to make more showings in the future.

Congrats to Hristo on the win.   :clap:   And also to Al and King for making the podium.   :punk:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: Al Heller on June 22, 2010, 11:36:26 AM +0100
Very pleased to finish 2nd - especially after my terrible start where I went from 3rd to 7th - too many revs, slewed sideways & by the time I'd regained control 3 cars had passed. Then Phil passed me up the inside of T1 - sorry for the close shave Phil, I was concentrating on the cars ahead (could see King Hiro off track & looking to rejoin) & wasn't watching my mirrors so got the shock of my life when a Lotus nose suddenly appeared alongside. Tailed Phil as he tried to find a way past FMG which was great to watch though I was relieved when FMG eventually went wide at T1 & we both nipped through. Phil was quick in the Lotus & especially on acceleration so I wasn't sure where I might get an opportunity to pass but luckily for me Phil then overshot T2 so I inherited what was now 3rd.

With an open track, I started trying to close the gap to Fulvio & seemed to be slowly making inroads & had finally caught sight of him ahead when his engine went pop. I wonder if that hump on the straight was responsible for eating so many engines? I was a bit concerned about it red-lining there so was lifting everytime I crested the rise. That was about 1/3 distance & according to Prib, Hristo was 'only' 500 yds ahead so I pushed to try & close the gap but clearly he wasn't hanging around as the gap just started growing - still, was pleased to record the 2nd fastest lap during the chase. WD to H for the win & to all the other finishers.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 22, 2010, 04:14:19 PM +0100
The BRM is a tank, and thankfully as tough as one.

That is all :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Graduates Cup (67) - Le Mans (Bugatti) - Jun 20
Post by: vosblod on June 26, 2010, 02:23:30 PM +0100
Modding now completed