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Title: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Mike Miller on June 14, 2010, 04:15:10 PM +0100
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All members welcome

Practice 1: 19:20 (60 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (12 mins)
Race: 20:32 (45 laps ~60 Minutes)

Cars allowed: Refer to this  spreadsheet (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgyClStz4uopdENJZC1SUEZfZ08wWmoxcERXZTFWV2c&hl=en&output=html). Your car choice is limited to your average finish position (trimean).

Drivers with an average finish of 1 - 5.99 are restricted to cars in the Yellow group.
Drivers with an average finish of 6 - 14.99 are restricted to cars in the Yellow and Orange groups.
Drivers with an average finish of 15+ may drive any car from any group.
If your name is not on the list (first time drivers) you are restricted to cars in the Yellow group.

Yellow (average finish 1+)
  • Abarth 500 Gr5
  • Mini Cooper 1275S
  • Triumph TR4
  • Lotus Elite

Orange (average finish 6+)
  • Lotus Cortina Mann
  • Lotus Cortina Works
  • Alfa Romeo GTA Jr.

Green (average finish 15+)
  • Alfa Romeo GTA
  • Ford Falcon Sprint
  • Ford Mustang BSCC-Gr2


Track: Westwood 1988 (download from HERE (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_westwood88))
Time of Day Setting: 16:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: 1X
Fuel consumption: 2X
Pit-stops: At least 1 stop is required taking on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or changing 2 tires. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKPnG2.1 S3
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=259&theme=34)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory v2 from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/), 2.1 patch from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/) and enable terrain patch.
(4) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of every-one's connection will be reduced.
(5) P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function. You may go as fast as you like in the pits, but please exercise caution. Penalties will be handed out for causing contact in the pit lane. Use your best judgement when making your pitstop during the race.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Mike Miller on July 16, 2010, 03:27:06 PM +0100
The driver/car group spreadsheet has been updated with the results from Crystal Palace. Those in the Green group will have access to the big power Mustangs and Falcons which should do very well in the straights, but won't be as quick in the turns. For those of us in the more nimble machinery, please exercise caution in turns knowing the Mustangs and Falcons won't be as quick. Maybe try an outside pass?


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 16, 2010, 07:09:52 PM +0100
Good grief, I just winged it into the Orange band. CORTINAS  8)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 19, 2010, 11:57:42 PM +0100
I have installed this twice now and on neither attempt would it create a folder for my setups.

Anyone else noticed this?  If so is it anthing to do with starting the circuit name with an underscore?

I have resorted to just creating the folder manually.

Like the track mind.  ;D

Nice and simple and you can see the corners too!

Could well give some epic battles.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: goldtop on July 20, 2010, 12:03:01 AM +0100
I never use the track folders, but instead create folders for each car I use  ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: lazlow on July 20, 2010, 08:13:01 AM +0100
Good idea GT....might have to spend some time sorting out my setups now.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 22, 2010, 09:46:34 AM +0100
I've tried to find where Westwood used to be on Google Maps but it seems to have been totally obliterated by housing and the biggest golf course on the planet.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Mike Miller on July 22, 2010, 02:49:06 PM +0100
Shame. Bridgehampton suffered the same fate.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 22, 2010, 02:54:26 PM +0100
and Riverside


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: pribeiro on July 23, 2010, 10:08:57 AM +0100
Good grief, I just winged it into the Orange band. CORTINAS  8)

Alien, I'm in the green one and I will pursuit you with a big V8.....or a nice 4, will see it later.  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Giuseppe Reali on July 26, 2010, 10:11:56 AM +0100

Hello everyone, I am Giuseppe Reali, Team7 member and driver, and I would ask if I can participate in the race on the track of Westwood 1988.
Thanks a lot  :thumbup1:

Giuseppe


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 26, 2010, 01:53:17 PM +0100
Welcome Giuseppe.

Good to see you in here.   :thumbup1:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Hotkeys on July 26, 2010, 02:40:07 PM +0100
Hi Guiseppe, welcome !

From Italy ? If so, I sure hope, you're not as fast as the other Italians  ;D ;D

Stig / Hotkeys


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 27, 2010, 06:04:48 PM +0100
1:18.757 for me int' 'tina   :scooter:

Could be some epic battles at this one.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Legzy on July 27, 2010, 09:10:58 PM +0100
Looking at the spreadsheet, I just twigged that out of a possible 9 podium finishes so far, the VDA guys have snapped up 8 of them!!! :hammer:

Mike, when are you going to create another group for them? I'm thinking the Group 2 Mini/Abarth  :-\



p.s. congrats to Goldtop for claiming the one other podium finish :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Legzy on July 27, 2010, 09:59:40 PM +0100
8 of us on the server at the mo if anyone fancies joining in...


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Mike Miller on July 27, 2010, 11:18:45 PM +0100
Looking at the spreadsheet, I just twigged that out of a possible 9 podium finishes so far, the VDA guys have snapped up 8 of them!!! :hammer:

Mike, when are you going to create another group for them? I'm thinking the Group 2 Mini/Abarth  :-\



p.s. congrats to Goldtop for claiming the one other podium finish :)

Yeah. The VDA guys are performing brilliantly this season. I don't know how they let the Kerbies steal the show last season. They obviously took a season off. Good thing we've got Goldtop and Ade up there keeping them honest. Hopefully I can focus more on racing and less on building my house in the near future. Clive has been stepping up too.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Burtoner on July 28, 2010, 11:47:14 AM +0100
1:20.6 in the mustang, probably can go 1sec quicker when I try track at lot more..


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Manteos on July 28, 2010, 12:18:56 PM +0100
Looking at the spreadsheet, I just twigged that out of a possible 9 podium finishes so far, the VDA guys have snapped up 8 of them!!! :hammer:

Mike, when are you going to create another group for them? I'm thinking the Group 2 Mini/Abarth  :-\



p.s. congrats to Goldtop for claiming the one other podium finish :)

Yeah. The VDA guys are performing brilliantly this season. I don't know how they let the Kerbies steal the show last season. They obviously took a season off. Good thing we've got Goldtop and Ade up there keeping them honest. Hopefully I can focus more on racing and less on building my house in the near future. Clive has been stepping up too.

Yes, it's true Mike, yesterday I had another race in Snetterton against Clive, and now he is become a really consistent driver in race pace!! I have to admit that Lele and Ayrton are on another planet til now, Bonni get the Ruzza inside, and I'm in a good period with P&G, so VDA team, is getting better than I expected at the start of the champ, but for the next 2 races I won't race, and probably even some other VDA guys will have some problems to race because of their holiday period.
Regarding the previous champ Mike, it was the first season that UK P&G raced on Thursday, unfortunately the day in which we use to race in our P&G champ :(... and on the end of September, it will restart again. I would like to keep a slot even for one team of UKP&G guys, if you want to aggregate in this fantastic champ, but obviously it could be possible only if you're going to change your race day I guess... and it won't be easy ^ ^. However, that's sure when I'll have a free Thursday, I'll follow to join your events, as it happens since more than a year! I like so much racing in this place, and I like the efford you put to organize the best championship possible to have close races. At the moment it worked pretty well, but I guess that the pit stop is the focal point of the race, and some of you are experiencing some troubles in it, especially because we don't change tyres, and you can't make a present of 12 or 24 seconds to people like Lele or Ayrton... or you won't reach them again!!!
Ok, let's see what happens tomorrow. Yesterday, in my first approach to Westwood I managed a 1.19.0 with full tank, but I guess I can't go so much faster than this... it was a good lap... Qualifying in front here will be even more important of the previous races with this long straight in which Tinas Alfas and Mustangs are faster than the TR4, and especially of the Abarth Gr.5 of Ruzza boy "Nos Child".
It will be a fight and interesting race... or at least I hope so!
Cu Tomorrow!


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 28, 2010, 12:46:44 PM +0100
Did some test driving last night and the circuit seems even better with the Cortina/Alfa than it did with the big yank V8's that we drove here previously.

Quite looking forward to this one  :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 28, 2010, 12:54:09 PM +0100
1:20.6 in the mustang, probably can go 1sec quicker when I try track at lot more..

Hmmm...................

Don't see your name on the spreadsheet Burt.

I would practice with the Elite if I were you, not the Mustang.   ::)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: ilpinguo on July 28, 2010, 03:10:14 PM +0100
Hi all! My name is Gianluca and Manteos reported me your site. I would like to join tomorrow's race in westwood if it's possible, so I've just downloaded the track and I'm ready to go!
See you


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 28, 2010, 03:55:56 PM +0100
Don't they have P&G in Italy  ???


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Hotkeys on July 28, 2010, 04:46:17 PM +0100
Hi all! My name is Gianluca and Manteos reported me your site. I would like to join tomorrow's race in westwood if it's possible, so I've just downloaded the track and I'm ready to go!
See you

Hi Gianluca, welcome aboard  ;D

Stig / Hotkeys


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Manteos on July 28, 2010, 05:58:34 PM +0100
Don't they have P&G in Italy  ???

He's surely get one advanced version than us Tony ;), cause he's one of the physics beta testers of P&G 2.1... and not only of the 2.1...
Gianluca is a real legend for the italian Sim Racing, and a really strong driver... fortunately for this one he will drive an Abarth... but I'm sure that will make our life very difficult!
Luckily for you... he is not a VDA driver, but he is a great person, and I consider him a good friend!
Cu tomorrow for the race!

Bye bye :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Legzy on July 28, 2010, 07:23:03 PM +0100
Don't they have P&G in Italy  ???
lol
welcome Gianluca :)

When's PnG 3 out? ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 28, 2010, 07:24:01 PM +0100
 :D excellent!

But I am interested to know what draws so many Italians to our humble P&G league. Do we do something different? We need to know because if there is a difference we should be capitalizing from it.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: phspok on July 28, 2010, 10:10:13 PM +0100
I think this is the next best thing to VDA in their eyes, so they come to play. I also have a theory that Matteo only tells the fast ones about us  ;)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Mike Miller on July 29, 2010, 05:44:41 AM +0100
I like to think the handicap format gives them an extra challenge.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Mike Miller on July 29, 2010, 05:06:16 PM +0100
Guys. I updated the race announcement to 45 laps to ensure we don't run into a race ending prematurely. Again this will be a 45 lap race.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Sandor M on July 29, 2010, 09:07:16 PM +0100
Grmbl,

Was doing fine around 10th place with lost of clean action going on.
Then I got on the grass before the start-finsh line and hoped to get the car back on the road.
Unfortunately my front bumper got in the tyres flipping my car in the air and landing somewhere on the tarmac.
Because I had no clue where I was I just pressed escape before I ruined some other persons race.

Oh well , at least I can drive the fast cars for another race ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Mark J on July 29, 2010, 09:09:22 PM +0100
another early bath for me. Had hoped it would be an exciting close race with such a full grid but seemed off the pace in the actual race and the bottom half of the field was quite strung out. Two costly spins when getting a wheel off left me in the back 4-6 during the first 15 laps or so. The second spin was enough to cease my meagre interest in racing these duff slow saloon cars and i retired as couldnt face another 20 odd laps trundling around the back at cortina speed, with no one to race. :(

Roll on the GT cars as this ankle biting season isnt doing it for me. Tracks have been good but cars are dull imo.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Mike Miller on July 29, 2010, 09:39:55 PM +0100
Heartbreaking "connection lost" with 1 lap to go while running a comfortable 3rd. A bunch of fantastic racing out there. I'll give more of a race report later.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Legzy on July 29, 2010, 09:52:10 PM +0100
Good solid race for me yet again in these duff slow saloon cars

Under-rated track that Westwood, I think it offers quite a lot, though certainly favours a car with half an engine over my pedal powered Alfa Jnr! :laugh: Had many good laps of getting close behind someone in a Full Alfa GTA through the twistys, only to see them lose me on the straight.... repeat... & a similar thing but in reverse & less often against some Abarths 8)

Cracking win PR, well done for breaking the VDA strangle-hold on the podium top step at least! Great to see an English Portuguese man up there instead!  ;) :laugh: :laugh:

Hope to see some of you giving Watkins Glen a go on Sunday in UKGTR2 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8160.msg144842#msg144842)

p.s. Another good turn out tonight. :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: phspok on July 29, 2010, 09:53:48 PM +0100
Very enjoyable race for me. I made a tatters of T2 on  the 1st lap, too busy looking sideways to see where I was,
didn't feel any contact so kept tight and raced. Had some fun chasing TT and CLive, Clive must have done a much
quicker pit as I was on his bumper when I pitted, and was 16 secs behind when I came out. Riccardo? fell off
near the end, so I gained a place and hung on to the flag. Gutwrenching to come over the top and see Mike's
car frozen on track, but PR managed to stay connected, and was flying to a well earned win.
Oh, and I rather like the duffers as well, AM happy to race GTs too, all are fun for me.
EDIT: Watched the start and I pushed Geoffers, sorry for that.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Hotkeys on July 29, 2010, 10:09:55 PM +0100
T´was great fun making my way from last place to 11 or so. I also had a great fight with a GTA, gaining time im the corners only so watch that son of a ....... catch up on me on the straight  ;D

Made a stupid mistake by using the soft tyres without changing them .... huuu..... went from a 1.19.09 lap ( PB ) to 1.23's on the last laps  :o :o

Stig / Hotkeys

PS. Missed my usual dogfight with Legzy, so nxt time I'll try to quali  ;D


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Clive Loynes on July 29, 2010, 10:30:24 PM +0100
Had some fun chasing TT and CLive, Clive must have done a much
quicker pit as I was on his bumper when I pitted, and was 16 secs behind when I came out.

LOL  I finally managed a decent pit stop but I'm still not sure if there is something that I should do after the fuel has stopped going in.  The bloke still seems to be mincing about in front of me and I have no engine to run him over with.  Apart from the refuelling crew, I did managed to keep all the other mechanics with their hands in their pockets.

I think that I owe you a drink too Matt, for keeping TT off my back in the early stages.  :thumbup1:

I was resigned to 4th spot when I came across Mike's abandoned Alfa with a couple of laps to go.  Hard luck Mike. 


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on July 29, 2010, 11:05:47 PM +0100
Love the cars and the track but I seem to be getting slower every week which is getting tiresome.

Still it was a lovely way to spend an evening but I missed tangling with Bill.


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: goldtop on July 29, 2010, 11:43:54 PM +0100
Results and replay in the usual places

If those drivers without national flags by their names would like to fill in their nationalities in their profiles, we could then all see where you are from and my little charts would look much prettier  :)


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Tim Robey on July 30, 2010, 08:07:53 AM +0100

I owe seniordan a huge apology for taking him out on lap 1, I knew I had to brake early at the end of the straight, but with a full tank and cold tyres I misjudged it, just managed to avoid the Cortina I was following but didn't manage to avoid hitting Dan.  :(

The Mustang was hard work round here, and I couldn't get into any rhythm and lost time when I missed my braking spot playing round with XD pitstop settings when I realised I would have to change my front tyres.

Hmmm, maybe next time I'll take an Alfa like everyone else  :-\




Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Geoffers on July 30, 2010, 08:42:00 AM +0100
Watched the start and I pushed Geoffers, sorry for that.

I forgive you my son!  :laugh: I think we're even now after Crystal Palace  ::)

First lap wasn't too good for me, after the bump from Matt, I got bumped from behind at the next corner & only narrowly missed being taken out by Tim's Mustang at the end of the straight. In fact the first 10 laps were a bit of a disaster, made countless silly mistakes & was nearly at the back of the field & shortly after got lapped.

Settled down a bit after that, had a good pitstop (hooray!) & made up a few places to finish 12th.

Congrats to PR, Daniele & Clive.  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: Truetom on July 30, 2010, 08:59:01 AM +0100
Some close laps and chase with Clive and Matt, like they said. :) Though, I feel I was going backwards most of the time, several drivers overtook that were slower in quali. :( Not sure why, really, didn't feel slow to me, I was driving rather constant times (apart from one or two smaller offs), so it must be that they were accelerating their race pace. :)

Just before the race I was trying out new cars for GTR2 Watkins event and I think it was not such a good idea - hard to go back in time, man this cars feel sluggish. :D And when they finaly go quick you can't stop them. ;D

Anyways, a good choice of the track, I must say, a bit tricky and with these cars you're constantly on the edge - or over it. ;) 


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: phspok on July 30, 2010, 09:38:10 AM +0100
Don't know about others, but I am usually faster in the race than in Qual, as I don;t have time to do a qual setup
as well as a race one. so I either run with race fuel in qual, or I take out some fuel, and maybe run softer tyres
but the cars are less stable like that, so I qual poorly. Is one reason why I am often at the back of the grid in GTR2
and sometimes finish better than my qual times would suggest. I spend most of GTR2 qual doing my race setup...
Same is somewhat true in PG and GTL


Title: Re: UKPnG Season 3 Handicapped - Westwood 1988 - Jul 29
Post by: pribeiro on July 30, 2010, 10:56:04 AM +0100
Very like the same as me Matt, my qualifying sessions are always rubish.

@Legzy, you're not very far for what I feel. I often say to a few portuguese fellows that I should have borned in England for many reasons.  :D

I made a joly good start which allowed me to attack the lead on the first two laps.
Afterwords was only to stay alert and avoid mistakes to increase the gap to the pursuit drivers.
This was the first time that pit stop went well (finally!).

I'm trully happy (even if I was driving the green group cars) because I didn't practice any lap as usual.
The 12 quali minutes were used to make a setup (2 laps) and qualy (3 laps).

Lovely track for this kind of cars.

Cheers