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Title: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Syd Drake on June 19, 2010, 07:01:54 PM +0100
UKGPL Season 19 - Historic Division - Race 7 - 66 mod -Road Atlanta


Race date = 22-06-2010
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP Address = 62.149.202.168
Time = 21:00
Track = Road Atlanta
Variant = 66F1,  2L engines
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = long


Group I
T1F Eagle Climax   
Lotus 33 Climax           

Group II
Brabham BT11 2.5lt         
Lotus 33 BRM   

Group III
Ferrari 246       
Brabham BT11 BRM         
BRM P261         
Brabham BT11 2.7lt     
         
         
Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I
Clive Garnder
Hristo Itchov

Drivers Restricted to cars from Groups I or II
Göran Jonsson
Al Heller

All other drivers have free chassis choice.

Password: see above (#post_event_password)
(2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=249&theme=6)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 19, 2010, 07:38:42 PM +0100
This is on my Birthday so I demand to win!  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Dave Randall on June 19, 2010, 08:21:15 PM +0100
This is on my Birthday so I demand to win!  ;D

I'm afraid unless I'm mistaken, it's your turn to be Jethro'd Tim, unless someone else is willing to sacrifice themselves for your special day!
 ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 19, 2010, 08:22:09 PM +0100
Having Jethro on my team means I'm immune... phew! And ... I'm sorry, Tim, but no.  ;D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: bernie on June 21, 2010, 09:44:15 PM +0100
track wont load , installer says its "because of problems"  :-\ :-\ :-\

tis OK now after the 3rd attempt and a good bit of psuedo french  :)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 22, 2010, 12:00:15 AM +0100
Taking a look at the records and it reminds me of the last race in 66s - Evil was flying in both Qualifying and Race! Should be interesting.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Dave Randall on June 22, 2010, 01:58:46 PM +0100
Taking a look at the records and it reminds me of the last race in 66s - Evil was flying in both Qualifying and Race! Should be interesting.

Your 17.5 laptime is safely embedded as the lap record on my machine though Hristo; I've been trying in vain the last week to replace it but even the prib best sectors are not quite touching it!  :(  Still, shows I could get close if only I could knit those sectors together!  I also remember Evil being quick here, especially the first right hander after the esses where he passed me more than once.  After watching Schumachers tactics in Canada, I think I know what to do though..  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: vosblod on June 22, 2010, 04:39:01 PM +0100
This is on my Birthday so I demand to win!  ;D
Happy birthday Tim  :balloon:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Samb on June 22, 2010, 05:39:24 PM +0100
Any chance I can join this race, providing there's space?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 22, 2010, 06:27:59 PM +0100
Don't see why not Sam - this series hasn't been the busiest for a while so I'll be suprised if there isn't room  :)
Get on iGOR in time and I'm sure we can fit you in  8)

Just remember that you have to let me win  ;)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Syd Drake on June 22, 2010, 08:04:17 PM +0100
Any chance I can join this race, providing there's space?
You need to vote in the historic registration thread to see the password and be recognized as a division member.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 22, 2010, 08:52:28 PM +0100
I appear to be lacking a password. Have I gotta vote again in the registration thread?


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Syd Drake on June 22, 2010, 10:29:06 PM +0100
News.

(http://thumbnails30.imagebam.com/8553/299f9985526498.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/299f9985526498)


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 22, 2010, 10:33:12 PM +0100
Having Jethro on my team means I'm immune... phew! And ... I'm sorry, Tim, but no.  ;D

No, it seems I'm not immune and Jethro does his assaults (aka insane moves) regardless if it's a teammate or not. So after he went too hot into T2 despite that there exists only a single line, he sent me into the wall, but it seemed I suffered no damage as only the front end of the car collided.

I was wrong though - the engine was lacking power and I could barely shift into 5th on the back straight, and my exit out of corners was not as quick. It was like the engine was missing a cylinder or something.

We had some great battles with Fulvio, KingHiro, Al and maybe someone else - all of them were powering down the straights and I had to risk a lot in corners to compensate.

5th is not bad, considering... Jethro, as I told you - you refuse to learn. Despite reports against you in each race and despite, what, 2-3 season of competition you have under your belt now? You just prefer to get penalized, throw in an excuse and do it again next time. And I didn't hear a single "sorry" for what happened in this race. Go take your arrogance somewhere else...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Syd Drake on June 22, 2010, 10:38:48 PM +0100
Replay.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9L268JNP


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Dave Randall on June 22, 2010, 11:14:32 PM +0100
Well done Tim and happy birthday too!  Congrats also to Syd and Sam and bad luck H

Not much to report from my race.  Got a poor start to drop a few places.  Held the group of three cars in front quite comfortably but didn't want to risk a move on Jethro who was immediately in front, not least because of the lag he was experiencing making him seem even more erratic than usual!

After a few laps the engine blew on the straight to add to the string of disappointments for various reasons this season, after making such a good start to it.

Must stop looking forward to these races so much..



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Syd Drake on June 22, 2010, 11:43:44 PM +0100
Hang in there Dave. I couldn't finish a race for the life of me. Four races in a row without a finish and then two seconds in a row, Now I get to take F312 at Spa :). So there's light at the end of that straight :).
I had a great race. Early on Sam passed me, and Jethro made a mistake to slot in just behind me. I had my hands full with Jethro, who was all over me at ends of any straight. But it was pretty fair, and we didn't make any contact (I was extra cautious in some turns cause it was Jethro behind me after all :) ). Unfortunately, with us fighting Sam managed to pull out a lead of some 4 seconds. But then Jethro made a mistake on his own, and I could concentrate on driving. I slowly reeled Sam in, and just as I got close, he spun on the downhill section on the penultimate turn, and I was through to 2nd place. I could see Tim, who was a couple of seconds ahead with some 5 laps to go, and I really pressed hard to catch up to him. Didn't quite get him, but at least got the fastest lap, my 12th overall, but first in almost two years.
Grats Tim on the win, and Sam on the podium..


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: bernie on June 23, 2010, 12:25:37 AM +0100
I got as far as the practise server on UKGPL 6 to test my connection , then went off for a quick pre race cuppa nescafe with extra cream ,  came back to find the connection down  :o :o :o

66mod and me just not getting along too well  :censored:

 


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: vosblod on June 23, 2010, 02:59:22 AM +0100
regardless if it's a teammate or not.
Clark-Hill has only ever asked one team-mate to leave  ;D
 :2guns:

http://clarkhillracing.freeforums.org/ (http://clarkhillracing.freeforums.org/)



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: b_1_rd on June 23, 2010, 07:36:46 AM +0100
regardless if it's a teammate or not.
Clark-Hill has only ever asked one team-mate to leave  ;D
 :2guns:

http://clarkhillracing.freeforums.org/ (http://clarkhillracing.freeforums.org/)



We've asked a few to have a shower, but only ever one to leave  :D


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: kinghiro on June 23, 2010, 08:23:21 AM +0100
I crashed. I was wondering about H s (who I always forget is Colin MC Rae)  weird performance ,that proved to be caused by lack of enginepower, and that somehow got  me out of focus.
even the swede beat me then.
Really enjoyed up to then. nice battles.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 23, 2010, 09:21:49 AM +0100
Hang in there Dave. I couldn't finish a race for the life of me. Four races in a row without a finish and then two seconds in a row, Now I get to take F312 at Spa :). So there's light at the end of that straight :).
I had a great race. Early on Sam passed me, and Jethro made a mistake to slot in just behind me. I had my hands full with Jethro, who was all over me at ends of any straight. But it was pretty fair, and we didn't make any contact (I was extra cautious in some turns cause it was Jethro behind me after all :) ). Unfortunately, with us fighting Sam managed to pull out a lead of some 4 seconds. But then Jethro made a mistake on his own, and I could concentrate on driving. I slowly reeled Sam in, and just as I got close, he spun on the downhill section on the penultimate turn, and I was through to 2nd place. I could see Tim, who was a couple of seconds ahead with some 5 laps to go, and I really pressed hard to catch up to him. Didn't quite get him, but at least got the fastest lap, my 12th overall, but first in almost two years.
Grats Tim on the win, and Sam on the podium..
You are a very hard man to pass, but that was good fair racing. I had a job trying to work out where I could pull a move safely, and decided to settle in behind. As it turns out I went backwards quite quickly!

I will absolutely reserve judgement on Lap 1 until seeing the replay as I was rather shattered after that race.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Al Heller on June 23, 2010, 10:17:36 AM +0100
Only 6th place but a thoroughly enjoyable race for me. It's not often you can race wheel-to-wheel with people in GPL for any length of time without it ending in incident, but me & Hristo managed it for over 15 laps. I got ahead 3 or 4 times only to be reeled in again every time - good clean scrap I thought, albeit a little disturbing that it took the slowest car with a dodgy engine & a lap 1 shunt to put H on equal terms with me :P. Had good racing with Fulvio & King Hiro on the way too. Looking forward to Spa though slightly alarmed to see that I have to take a handicapped chassis again - oh well, that must mean I'm improving :scooter:. Hope Tim enjoyed his birthday present & congrats to podium.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 23, 2010, 12:35:15 PM +0100
I will absolutely reserve judgement on Lap 1 until seeing the replay as I was rather shattered after that race.

Reserve judgment? Are you serious? How oblivious can you be to what you're doing and how blind can you be to what is happening around you? You were in no position whatsoever to enter that corner on the inside, out of control, through the grass and embedded tires and right into me as I was already negotiating the apex.

And be aware that I saw your crazy move early on and tried to stay wide because I was 100% sure you won't make it with the speed you were carrying into the corner... it's amazing (and disturbing) that you need to watch a replay to see what YOU were doing.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 23, 2010, 01:02:17 PM +0100
I will absolutely reserve judgement on Lap 1 until seeing the replay as I was rather shattered after that race.

Reserve judgment? Are you serious? How oblivious can you be to what you're doing and how blind can you be to what is happening around you? You were in no position whatsoever to enter that corner on the inside, out of control, through the grass and embedded tires and right into me as I was already negotiating the apex.

And be aware that I saw your crazy move early on and tried to stay wide because I was 100% sure you won't make it with the speed you were carrying into the corner... it's amazing (and disturbing) that you need to watch a replay to see what YOU were doing.
I'm currently at work and lap 1 of yesterday evening's race among the server disconnects and astonishingly bad lag is a blur in my hazy memory, hence the need for me to see a replay to know *exactly* WTF happened there. By all means keep with your point of view, however I will have an open mind until I view both the server and my saved replay.

And for the record I recall there was no discernible contact on lap 1 on my end at the time, hence I thought you'd spun.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Samb on June 23, 2010, 01:06:29 PM +0100
Clark-Hill has its own forum? I might have to pop along as a wary traveller, if people from other teams are so gladly accepted  ;D. As for my race, it was quite a good debut for me in the Historics. I qualified 7th after spending most of the time in practice tuning my setup and was reasonably confident about the race. Thankfully, I made a great start, passed a couple cars and flew past Syd on the straight. That vaulted me up to 3rd, after the first lap dramas, which became 2nd, after I passed Jethro on the straight.

The next 15 laps or so were quite quiet. I had Syd and Jethro nipping at my heels from time to time but mostly I was alone, unable to match Tim's pace up front. However, with about 8 laps or go, Syd had other ideas and reeled me in at a frightening rate. I think I didn't have the gears set up properly because Syd had much, much better drive out of the corners; particularly the infield section of twisting corners, but he unable to match the grunt of the mighty BRM on the straight.

About 5 laps from the end, I thought my Christmas had come early as Tim had lost it up ahead, and rejoined just ahead of me. So what do I do? Get over-excited, brake too late and spin about 3 corners later! That left Syd to hound Tim and me to drive alone into 3rd. That said, I did make it hard for myself, spinning again and again, almost losing 3rd to Fulvio!

Still, 3rd isn't so bad, here's hoping to cut down on my errors for the next one. Congrats to Tim and Syd, perhaps the win was just meant to be....


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 23, 2010, 01:44:15 PM +0100
I know I said I had to win as it was my Birthday but must admit I didn't expect to actually do it!  ;D

Even better is the fact that that was my first ever win in the 66 mod :o - Makes it an even nicer present  8)

I only chose the BRM because it occured to me I've never really raced it before, it's not the most agile car in the mod but has some great straight line speed to compensate.

Qually was going well as I held pole for about 4-5 minutes in the initial session while still on race fuel, the server then proceeded to self destruct just as I started on my first hot lap on low fuel  ::)
Got a couple of clean laps in once Syd finally kicked the server into shape which put me nicely into 2nd spot.
I had to check my own replay after the race as was worried it had been me who knocked Hristo off into the downhill section - I wasn't quite as flowing as usual as I'd not had my traditional 2 laps on full fuel prior to the start and was therefore a bit cautious/wobbly.
Glad to see it wasn't me but gutted for H as there was nothing he could do to avoid Jethro.
After the chaos had settled and Jethro fell off himself 2 or 3 laps in I actually had quite a boring race, although I had to concentrate hard as I could see Sam pretty much holding position 4 seconds back on prib and then spotted Hristo closing in through the pack.
Things then got far more exciting when I span exiting turn 7 with about 4 to go (an original name that  ::) ) and found Sam and Syd almost right behind me, Sam vanished while I was concentrating on my escape leaving Syd just in range of my slipstream.
Was very odd having Syd in a green car instead of the normal red ones  ;) but this was perhaps my saving grace as the 2.7 Brab just didn't have enough straightline speed to capitalise on the draft and harrass me on the back straight - He did get enough out of it to steel the fastest lap from me though the swine!  :P

Well done Syd on 2nd, Sam on a flying 3rd (back in style ;) ), and to everyone who finished.
Also comiserations H, Although you normally slaughter me I at least enjoy our battles while I hold it on the black stuff!  :ninja:


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: FullMetalGasket on June 23, 2010, 03:21:01 PM +0100
I was wrong though - the engine was lucking power and I could barely shift into 5th on the back straight, and my exit out of corners was not as quick. It was like the engine was missing a cylinder or something.

I wonder if this is a bug in the 66 mod?
I had near enough the same problem after I barrelled over a load of Polo's at Zeltweg earlier this season, only hit the nose but ended up with barely enough power to hit 5th on the straights in my 312...


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Syd Drake on June 23, 2010, 05:28:24 PM +0100
I had a similar thing happen to me as well, at the Glen, though after hitting fairly hard into the barriers. I couldn't reach anywhere near last gear on the straights.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: b_1_rd on June 23, 2010, 05:41:40 PM +0100
Muhahaha ...its working slowly  :devil:


Now all I have to do is work out how to make it happen to you all at the same time........






JUST KIDDIN!!!!  :P

I'd still finish behind you all anyway probably!


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: G Jonsson on June 23, 2010, 07:36:25 PM +0100
So, my attempt to get a decent car for the Spa race failed.

Only joking, I just could not get it to work on this track, but I still had a fun race with Steve, especially as I finished in front. And I was damn lucky that King Hiro lost focus, thanks H, or else I would have had a Norwegian in front of me and that must never ever happen. (again)..

Any tip on what I did wrong at this track is welcome as I have another race here with the AusGPL on Sunday.

Anyway, Double Congrats to Tim, and single congrats so Syd and Samb, plus one more to Syd for fastest lap

Göran



Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Turkey Machine on June 23, 2010, 09:39:25 PM +0100
I had a similar thing happen to me as well, at the Glen, though after hitting fairly hard into the barriers. I couldn't reach anywhere near last gear on the straights.
I managed to smack the barriers twice quite flush in this race and was still pulling high revs after it, so not sure what collision model they have on the 66 mod. Could be the angle that you hit the wall at I guess.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: Hristo Itchov on June 23, 2010, 09:43:26 PM +0100
I was wrong though - the engine was lucking power and I could barely shift into 5th on the back straight, and my exit out of corners was not as quick. It was like the engine was missing a cylinder or something.

I wonder if this is a bug in the 66 mod?
I had near enough the same problem after I barrelled over a load of Polo's at Zeltweg earlier this season, only hit the nose but ended up with barely enough power to hit 5th on the straights in my 312...

I think it's quite realistic because the engine suffers a sudden surge of torque coming from the wheels as the car hits the wall head on and looses a lot of speed fast. It would definitely damage the engine and/or the transmission in real life. I've had it happen in any mod, though it doesn't happen often. Besides, I'm not sure if GPL models the radiator getting damaged when you collide with the nose of the car head on.

Oh and I meant "lacking" not "lucking" , lol.


Title: Re: UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Historic Trophy (66) - Road Atlanta - Jun 22
Post by: bernie on June 24, 2010, 01:11:17 PM +0100
Is it just me who's had the whole car explode spectacularly (lotos 33 climax) when hitting that bump on the pit exit  :-\