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Practice 1: 19:20 (60 mins)
Race: 20:30 (15 laps ~40 Minutes)

There will not be a qualifying session for this race. Starting order is determined reversing the average finish position found in this  spreadsheet (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgyClStz4uopdFNjeEpuWjlFMHdBcHozaUtERTgwVWc&hl=en&output=html).
Please do not go out on track during the qualifying session. Your grid order will be set by the administrator manually.
New drivers to the series will start at the rear of the field sorted alphabetical descending (keeping the reverse theme here).

Cars allowed: Jag E-Type Coupe
Track: Autobahn Country Club (download (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_autobahn))
Time of Day Setting: 10:00
Weather: Dry
Start: ROLLING

We'll do a rolling start for this round as there are no start lights. It will be a double file start like we in the states do with SCCA club racing. The lead driver will lead the field around at a reasonable pace. Take this time to warm up the brakes and tires. If you go off or spin the car on the pace lap, you must start at the end of the line. Do not regain your position. The lead driver should slow well before the last turn to ensure the rest of the field has packed together. The race starts as the lead driver rounds the last corner leading onto the start/finish straight. Use the lap timer at the upper right of your screen to trigger the start of the pace lap. Do not leave your starting spot till the timer starts or you will be charged with a stop/go penalty. The server will be set as a standing start, but we'll creating our own rolling start.

Tyre wear: 1X
Fuel consumption: 1X
Pit-stops: none required

Server: UKPnG
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=260&theme=34)

Notes:
(1) You must connect prior to the practice session ending. Any driver joining after the administrator starts to set the grid positions in the quali session must start at the rear of the field.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/index.php?pid=7) especially the rules about in-game chat messages.
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory 2.0 from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/), 2.1 patch from here (http://www.gtlw.co.uk/) and enable terrain patch.
(4) P&G has no 'Pit Speed Limiter' function. You may go as fast as you like in the pits, but please exercise caution. Penalties will be handed out for causing contact in the pit lane. Use your best judgement when driving though the pit lane.
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I'm Hoping to be able to join this race but............

However, I´m not yet acquinted with this all time classic car little less the track, so any help with the setup will be most appreciated  ;D


Stig / Hotkeys

This could also be the first P&G race event I have been able to attend in a long while. Fingers crossed.

EDIT: Oh dear, what a desperately dull, featureless, flat track. Just cannot summon the enthusiasm to learn it so sorry but I'll skip this'n.

Lovely car though

Front row  :helpsmilie:

Gets you a bit worried, doesn't it? :D

I must say that my first thoughts were exactly as Tony's but since I'm in it for the long haul I stuck at it.

If I could just get to know which corner was coming next I think that I would actually be enjoying myself.

Could be a great place to let-off the E-Type.  ;D  I'll let you know when I have come to terms with it.

Find the E-Type to be a spiteful beast though.

Current best is a 2:53, which probably means that the aliens will be well into the 40s.  :-[

I was put off by the track at first too, (made me think of Silverstone) but after going around a few laps I found it quite challenging to get it right. With so many corners, a lot of time can be made or lost. Lower 40's are the target.

Now that has knocked the fun out of it.  :(

Won't be able to make this one as I'm off to Le Mans Classic, cya at Crystal Palace.

That's a shame Geoffers.  For us at any rate but hope you have fun.

I could do with seeing one of these low 2:40s any time that one of you aliens has a minute or two.  ;D

Quite enjoying driving the car but then I probably would when I'm ten seconds off the pace.  :-[

Went on this track for the first time just now...... huuu ........ I'll definitely skip this race, since I would have to spend several hours just finding my way around this strange track  :o
Also I have to admit, that I find the both track layout and the surroundings VERY boring and uninspiring.

This would be the right environment for the E-type : http://www.photographersdirect.com/buyers/stockphoto.asp?imageid=2314139   ;D ;D

Have fun guys, CU at Crystal Palace.

Stig / Hotkeys

As a general guide Hotkeys, I seem to regularly find that the best races come on tracks I didn't enjoy hotlapping on :-\

Besides, who gives a stuff about scenery, it's the other rather pretty PnG cars your racing with! :laugh:

Never mind the damn trees!

Just tell me where the next ten seconds is supposed to come from!!!!!

**EDIT**  Currently stalled at 2:50.8 and can't help thinking that I must be going entirely the wrong way on the setup.

Managed to get my time down to 2:49.8 last night....although I was driving on the ragged edge!!

That's more encouraging!

I might make one of those!

Practised my moment of glory but couldn't see any starting lights or flag man on P2  ???

Where do I have to look to know when the race has begun (to avoid any carnage behind me) ?

Few of us starting to gather on the server for some early reconnaissance ;)

I cant make this one as i am off to the Classic Le Mans  8)  Have fun, i know i will   :-*

ps...when are we having another P&G Le Mans race?!! The last one was fantastic.  8)

Keep an eye open for Geoffers.

Is that run on the Bugatti circuit or do they close half of France for that one too?


PS  Just reinstalled the track after the fourth screen freeze.  

It is run on the full circuit Clive.

See http://www.lemansclassic.com/en/s01_home/s01p01_home.php

Quite pleased to get myself down to 2:51 now & starting to get the idea of what corner might be next :-\

I'll grant you Clive, this track is not an instant classic ;) :laugh:


More worrying for me, is that there seems to be absolutely zero indication that the race has started ???. There is no green flag & no green light. I have tried 3/4 starts & from different positions on the grid (near - far) & the only reason I know to go, is because the AI drives off & my HUD clock starts. That has potential to be a very messy start & a very short race for some people.

Is there a special start procedure you've not mentioned yet Mike?

Does P&G have a countdown or an addon mod?

Nice thoughts but definitely no countdown in PnG.
No sure about a mod, but that would also rely on all people that attend, having it downloaded & installed ready (if the is a mod).... it'll only take one person without it to cause havoc at the start. :(

Hope you have your plus-fours and a shooting stick ready. 

Don't worry about the start.

Everyone will be so busy making crop circles on lap one that they will have forgotten the start by the time they see the pits start/finish line again! ::)

From the track read-me notes

Known issues:
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The safety car and AI enter the pits a little slow on the full course. I've fixed it as best I could but you may still get the odd incident.
The track does not have start lights as the real track has none.

Rolling start?

Already packed, dear boy!  :laugh:

Top hole!

Toodle-pip!  Have a jolly good time and don't drink the water.

Hi Mike and all,
I would like to race with you if it's possible. What GMT relate time is the start of practice/qualy?
Thank you

Ciao Fulvio :). Qualification will start at 21.20 PM (Italian time), and the race will start at 21.30

Hope to see you on track tomorrow, bye bye!

Edit: as ever with the starting hour I'm wrong. No qualification at all Fulvio, that's the reverse grid, so during the qualif. session the grid will be inverted referring to the spreadsheet in first Mike's post of this topic.

Hi Fulvio,

Are you back to full strength now?

Cheers 

PS  Don't forget not to go onto the track during Qually!!!!!

Thx Matteo, and yes Clive I'm almost on full strenght now  :)
I just did a couple of laps, first one I was lost in the pit and exited on reverse. I was aware of that only cause there weren't numbers on brake markers...  :laugh:
Then I fired a weekend and followed the AI to learn the track. Luckily I'll start at the back of the grid so I'll have someone to follow  :angel:
Ciao

I keep doing a few laps here, but it is so tedious I need to plug in a stoic chip each time
If everyone manages to learn which of the many straight/90left - straight 90right they are at, it could be a good race.
I am taking a navigator.  :scared:

I'm sorry I've been away guys. I've been working and staying in New York City the last few days. It looks like I've made a mess of this one. I focused too much time trying to find a partner car for the Jag that I forgot to test the start (rookie mistake). We'll do a rolling start for this round. Lead driver will lead the field around at a reasonable pace. Slow well before the last turn to ensure the rest of the field has packed together and then go at the last corner leading onto the start/finish straight. I'll update the 1st post to amend the start procedure. Again, many apologies for missing the start lights.

Nice recovery. 8)

Please read the rolling start procedure in the 1st post guys. It will be a double file start triggered on the last corner.

Well, having no time to practice is an advantage. Almost everybody worried with the lap times and track perfect lines. In my case, I will meet the track during practice session, maybe last 10 minutes as usual.  ;D

This evening I won't be able to race guys :( Enjoy the race & see you for the next!

Bye!

twin problem 4 me guys this evening have a  son's party and this is agreat prob!!  i cant escape from that!    ;D

Sorry guys, I can't race tonight, another committment has arised.
Cu the next, I hope.

It was something I said?  ::)

Guys... I'm heading to my 2nd house to meet with the propane guy. He will be installing 2 tanks which should take 1 hour, but who knows. Goldtop will restart the server, but will not be able to race. I've reached out to Legzy this morning to help out with admin duties in the event I do not make it back in time, but I have not heard from him yet. He is probably busy working. In the event I do not return in time and Legzy is not prepared to set the grid the do a normal quali session to set the grid. Again, many apologies for my disorganization. I'd love to blow off the gas guy, but my wife would have my head if the house doesn't get done by the end of the month.

Again, do a normal quali session if Legzy nor I are able to set the grid in reverse order.

 ::)

Overtime will deprive me from my Moment of Glory.

Too bad I miss leading the pack for a rolling start!  :'(

Have a good race!

 ::)

With this rate, I will be alone in the server and win the race without any practice.... :laugh:

I'll be there , with the same amount of practice-time ....  Could be a close race  ;D

May the Force be with you..

without any practice you will get lost in a field, never to return again ... :devil:

Lucky you... never want to see this place again anyway :laugh:

Looks like I just missed the start. I was rushing home from my other house to make it. When I looked at the server from the game it appears as if 11 were racing at the moment. It looks like I produced a dud here. I promise next round will go better. The track will be quite different.

Had some fun with PR and TT seeing who could remember what was round the next turn. went into the barrier hard
after avoiding Simon's frozen car, bent steering, was not inspired to drive here with damage, so quit

Just one word:  dramatic

Truetom and Matt made me stay on track for a while longer, when I was alone, it was so boring that I just couldn't carry on. This track is now on my hate track list in 1st position along with Nordscheliefe.
I hope the rest of the braves had fun untill the end.

Hard luck Lazlow.  You had it on a plate there until you were hoofed out.

Hard luck on Simon too.

I drove like a granny!

Well... Three amazing races & now this one... Well you can't get it right everytime Mike ;)

I don't think I'll race there again, shocking track & let's be honest, that Jag is just... lacking thrills. :laugh:

But I'm sure it'll be back to form next week.

I don't think that Mike should be too hard on himself over this one.  A lot of people put it in the "too difficult" pile but once I had learnt which way the next corner was going I quite enjoyed chucking the Jag about.

I found that you needed to drive it as a drift event and in private practice managed a 2:50.091, although where Mikes 2:40s were I just do not know.

The start was a shambles but again the formation lap was interesting.  I was some way back on the grid but I had cleared the last corner and nobody seemed to be starting.  In the end we all fumbled our way into T1 and things were looking good as I went down the inside of a bunch of cars.  Then a white one smacked into my rear and I was relegated to the back of the pack.  I took it easy to begin with as the car didn't seem to work properly until the rears had reached red heat.

I could see that Simon had hit the front and could imagine that he would be putting up a solid defence against Ade but then I had to take to the grass at about lap 3 because Simon's abandoned car appeared in the middle of the track.  Thankfully I missed both the car and anything else that might have done me harm.  He had lost connection.

That dropped me back from, I think, Lazlow and by the time that I had recovered I found myself chasing down Ade and Legzy and Lazlow had cleared them and was now in the lead.

Legzy took to the grass and I was left to chase Ade.  I used my secret weapon him.  i.e. Catch him up and then take to the grass so that he relaxes and then also throws himself on the turf as well.  Worked a treat.

I was then just trying to catch Lazlow.  I managed a FL at one point but he bettered it later on.  I was resigned to second when yet another stationary car turned out to be Lazlow and so I won.  Like they say, it's not how it's how many.  ;D

Thanks to Legzy for mangling the grid for us.  :thumbup2:  You can put those skills on your CV now.

Yes. Many thanks for Legzy stepping in and saving the day.

Apologies for the formation lap, wasn't familiar with track at all. Like I said before the start, didn't even know where the main straight was so had to wait till I saw the man with the flag before flooring it. ;D

I thought it was a good formation lap JPV. Was getting a tad worried as we starred along the home straight lol.
But as long as nobody started before the car in front, there could be no problem.

P.s. Mike, it automaticly turned into a single file pace lap as that's more what we're used to here I guess. Worked far better then the stupid double file one we're having to do in ukir currently (as single file is not available to hosted races)

Funny. I didn't like the single file restarts used in UKGTR as they do not present passing opportunities. I guess I like the controlled chaos at the start of the race. I'm not aware of any real racing that uses single file rolling starts? Could that be a procedure used in Europe? The club racing I've done (SCCA and NASA) use double file rolling starts.

I think that we had a largely single file parade lap and a two row start, which was just about right.

If I had tried to insist on two rows all around the lap then Paulo would have had me on the grass at a couple of places. 

On a parade lap it is insane and ridiculous drive two rows, that is when the drivers warm the tires and brakes and need space to sway. I never saw a parade lap (in real life) with a two row driving. That's why I was confortable to drift a bit because I didn't get near the driver in front aswell enough, to jeopardy his driving.
Common sense then put all the drivers one or two corners before S/F (depending of track layout) in the usual and fair two row.

It's been a week for un-popular circuits cos last night some of us UKGTL guys took part in an GTLDK event at Fundidora Park which is an atrocious circuit to race on.
On a happy note though, Pribeiro, Bill and I all finished well.  :)

Too right Tony. Never want to see Dull-didora again.

Are you guys talking about Cool-didora?  :devil:

 :offtopic:
I like fundidora park. ;)

Exactly right Pribeiro. That is the way it is done in club racing too. The field seperates a bit to allow for tire and brake warming and then closes up 2 by 2 within the last 2 or 3 corners.