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Car: Riley Daytona Prototype
Track: Brands Hatch (GP)

Practice: 18:00 for 150 mins (approx)
Qualifying: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race: 20:45 44 laps (approx 60 mins)

Start: Rolling - standard iRacing double file start
No fast tows will be available

Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

I tried this combination last night, works very well and I found my Infineon setup was pretty good. Gearing needs lengthening but otherwise its pretty good.

Regards
Gary

I think the track reference here is incorrect Pops as it still refers to Infineon.

Yeah, "copy & paste-itis" strikes again ::)

Thanks guys :)

Interesting combo. Car still feels a bit unweildy at the mo, doesnt seem to like turning in for Paddock but in other places it felt really nice like out the back.

One question, and i am at work so am no doubting myself, but i'm used to bump and rebound in GTR2 but doesnt iR only have fast and slow bump? or is it just a single bump and rebound? I want to stiffen up the dampers but seem to just make easier to loose traction.

I don't think any of the cars in iRacing allow seperate adjustment of the fast/slow damping rates in either bump or rebound.

Yike, I really struggled around here yesterday :-[

Having a very rare entire weekend to myself I had an iRacing binge on the Skippy/Mazda/Legends/Mustang/Corvette so that might explain my inability to drive the Riley :D

I'm sure it'll all come right after a  bit of praccy tonight though :)

Surprised to see this hasnt been run officially yet so no setups. trailblazers!

Really looking forward to this - hope to catch you boys online later.

Expecting you to romp away with this one Purds in preparation for the real thing at the end of t'month ;)

Practice server has been started

Cheers Pete! I'll be on in about an hour.

I enjoyed that session last night and quite pleased to get down to a mid 1:22 in race trim.

Hopefully I can run 1:23's in the race. I seemed to be able to lap at that pace without too much problem but trying to go any quicker was constantly verging on disaster :D

I was much the same - an optimum of 1:21.xxx but I didn't hook one up to get into the 22's.  I spent ages building a setup from scratch, and by the time it was comfortable I was past it :D

When I was in "the zone" I found it to be an immensely satisfying combination - hopefully we'll have a good turnout for this, despite it being the end of season etc.

I found the Infineon setup I used worked very well here, just need to make the gearing longer. That being said I have spent very little time here.

Its a busy day today and although I'd like to race the DP at Brands, work might just have to come first.

Regards
Gary

It was too warm last night to be practicing, but I'll be racing tonight.

Managed a 24.0 last night but will probably be the 25's.

I think i'm comfortable round brands in any car! Started off with the default medium setup and first softened it then stiffened it which seems to feel nicer and copes better with the high speed stuff. Have had to raise the ride hight a bit, the kurb at the bottom of paddock was bottoming it out.

Race server started, sorry it's 10 mins late. I can't believe how hard iRacing make it for you to add funds to you account so you can purchase a hosted race  :-\

unfortunately i haven't tried this or any racing since the GTR2 test race on sunday..... gonna practise now and no way I can expect a good result...!  ::)

dammit  :P

Well the phone doesnt work, the main wires are broken but its surprising what a crocodile clip will do! (no joke!) Not sure how its working but it is!

Wish my ADSL had broken, what a waste of time. No talent, no speed, thoroughly depressing.

At least it's the Radical next season, oh...no.. wait a minute, I suck at that even more. See you all in 20 weeks time!

I wasn't ever really comfortable in the car, struggled for pace and watched Pops dissapear.  Had a couple of silly offs before the stop, and then a couple of laps after the stop I touched the grass on the outside of Stirlings before turning in .... and that led to me going straight on and hitting the wall.

Didn't feel to be any damage until I came to brake into Graham Hill Bend when the car swapped ends with no warning.  It happened under braking into Surtees, and I parked it up before becoming a hazard.

When I race the Mazda I feel like I'm racing, when I race the DP I feel like I'm just trying to stay on the track.

It was fun battling with James and Mike early on, but I think I was only able to keep up because they were interfering with each other. We got a little spread eventually and James went missing. I was 9 secs down on Mike before the stop but coming out in to traffic pushed that to about 15. That stayed constant until a cut corner got me a black flag and suddenly I had Darren to fend off. No doubt with a track that actually had passing opportunities he'd have been through. As it was I just hung on by the skin of my teeth to secure 5th place. My only two results of note in either of the S3 Championships have come at Brands! I must do a track day there sometime.

A nice looking result, but didn't enjoy that at all :(

After a few laps, the car felt horrible.  I had no confidence in it and just wanted to get it to the end of the race.

Passed James into Druids on lap 1 then ended up holding him and Ken up for the next 20 laps.  Made my stop just before halfway for fuel and tyres and rejoined.  James was nowhere to be seen, I expected to see him come out ahead so he must have crashed somewhere.  Then passed Dave, who had gone off, held him up for 15 laps and finally had to give best into Paddock.  Brought it home 4th.

Lets hope I can get a better feeling in the Radical, the last couple of outings in the DP have felt awfull.

Grats to Brendan for the win :)

A very satisfying way to finish the season. :)

A PB in qual was good for an unexpected pole.

Got a clean start but after the first few laps, I knew I was in for a tough race.  Gary was obviously quicker and I was resigned to losing the lead during the pitstops at least.  Luckily for me, Gary and I were on a similar strategy and I could go 1 lap longer and cover off his stop.  The last stint was very difficult, though.  I was fortunate that I wasn't held up at all and that my car was wide enough to hold Gary off as long as I kept it on the island, which barring a few last lap jitters, I just about managed.

All in all, I'm pleased with the win but know that without everything falling into place for me, it would've been a different story.

Grats to Gary and Dave for the podiums, everyone who finished and to Dave for the championship.

Also, thanks to Pops and everyone else involved in running UKIR.

Brendan

8th in Q but botched it twice in first two laps in the same spot (Dingle) and lost my position - I think I was almost at the rear. Then tried to go steady and it was ok for some time. Made more mistakes later and I think I made most of the progress 'cause other drivers made even more mistakes than me. ::)

I can say I really felt the car in a few periods of the race but at times it was like a different car on different track. Strange feeling, it doesn't strike me right. :-X I can never get into the rhytm, not really. Maybe with Mazda, but not with this car. But I'm happy, 'cause i-Veterans like Pops and Adam were behind me. :P

That surprises me, I driver a 400bhp mid engined car on road and track, the DP to me is the most natural feeling of all the iRacing cars. How do you set it up?

Gary

Not a classic performance from me, partly because I hadn't done my customary testing over the preceeding days, and partly because of a stupid lapse in concentration just after my stop. But it did result in a very memorable and ultimately enjoyable race. ;D

Struggled a bit in practice before finding some small tweaks to my Infineon setup to get me up towards the sharp end. Managed a proper banzai job in qualifying to get third on the grid, but once into the race I was able to pull away from Darren and Mike and stay with Brendan and BertieFred for ten laps or so.

As the stint wore on, so did my tyres - too much understeer in a couple of corners was killing the front left, and the fuel burning off had lifted the back too far which was making it snappish under braking for Sitrlings, so I pitted four laps ahead of schedule and took tyres and a click more fuel than I really needed to try and keep it lower.

With other stops and an off or two I was very soon back to third, the leaders staying out a bit longer but too far ahead for there to be any danger of catching them. I was more than a little surprised to see Gary leaving the pits just a few seconds ahead - in fact I was even more surprised to learn that he didn't take tyres. That must have been one terrible in lap! I think you did take tyres really and just don't realise it... ;)

Anyway, it was just after that that I made what could easily have been a race-ending mistake coming off Sheene Curve, running ever so slightly wide and dipping the left tyres onto the grass. With me hard on the gas the car spun instantly to the left; I tried to drive it out as it passed back over the track in Stirlings but it was going to quickly and carried on sliding into and through the gravel. In a stroke of incredible luck it came to rest just inches from going head-first into the tyres, and I backed it out and rejoined as Mike came racing past, demoting me to fourth.

I really, really wanted to end the season with a podium after the disappointment of struggling to fourth place at Infineon, so I set about worretting Mike as best I could, knowing that even with a big raw pace advantage, getting past was really about extracting a big mistake. I tried every trick in the book, but even being able to drive almost any line into or out of the corners without losing time over him, he wasn't falling for any of my bluffs and there was no way I could get into a position where I could legitimately throw it down the inside. :ninja:

Not until we came up to lap Pops. I knew I wasn't going to get a better chance, so I let him almost box himself in behind the Leg End on the front 'straight', putting myself right on his tail and then gambling on him still being a tiny bit distracted to go sailing up the inside into Paddock Hill Bend. We were side by side all the way up to Druids where I sealed the deal with a bit of Tokyo Drift round the top; I'd like to claim I was making the car wide but in truth I broke too late and was just holding the slide until I had enough track to straighten it out again! :angel:

After that I pulled away quite handily with the car working much better than it had late in the first stint. :)

Really very pleased to get a podium despite that off, and well done to Mike for snagging second in the drivers' championship; I really should've checked on the points situation with you before the race! :-[ :laugh:

Work was ok yesterday and I managed to get back in good time with no delays on the trains either ;D

Did not really know what to expect here as I've done very little practice and did not even know how much fuel to use or whether to change tyres as I'd not done a half race stint in practice. My setup was better for race than qually and when I did a 20.6 on my first flyer I thought it would be good enough and I switched to running with fuel again for more practice.

Brendan got a great time for pole and I was content with second. After a couple of laps I started to apply some pressure but it was very difficult to judge when to brake and after running wide a couple of times and seeing Dave start to close back up on us I decided it was better to run a second or so back so we could open out a gap and attack later in the race.

When it came to pitstop time I decided to play it safe and pit even though it told me I'd got another lap, my inlap and outlap was terrible though and I dropped nearly nine seconds back to Brendan. I'd decided that you could do a full race distance on one set of tyres so did not change and checking the tyre info screen I could see I had only used about 15% of the tyres (on average at the first stop). Actually Dave it was a terrible couple of inlaps and a really bad outlap. I definitely did not take tyres. I was wrong about my tyres in chat after the race, I was down to around 70% on average after they did a full race distance.

I then set about catching Brendan and pulled the gap in fairly quickly but he was driving good defensive lines and Brands is too narrow to have much chance of passing. The last couple of laps were interesting and we finished .3 of a second apart.

So pole, fastest lap and race win to Brendan, good drive fella. ;)

Congrats to Dave on the championship and dealing with a mega strop from me mid season, Iain for organising and all who took part.

I'll be missing the first three or four Radical races as I want to take advantage of the light evenings and get a number of jobs sorted in the next few weeks.

Gary

I'm almost too embarrassed to post anything... I was terrible.

A really disappointing last week in both series but for different reasons.

Well done to Dave on the title win and big thanks to Pete for his server starting efforts :)

I'd not had any chance to practice since Infineon, partly because I've been busy but also because I've been concentrating on finding a balance in the Radical.  I'm off for two weeks though and was planning on getting some practice in yesterday afternoon until I managed to put a one inch splinter right up the front of my left little finger so spent the afternoon at the doctor's and Ely Minor Injuries unit (NHS at it's best by the way, even the parking is free!).

Anyway, I managed to be first in the practice session once it came up and tinkered with my Infineon setup to find a balance.  I was surprised to get so quickly down into the 1:23s on fuel but struggled to keep any consistency and the rear end wanted to do it's own thing, especially round Clark where the transition between braking and power was a white knuckle ride every lap.

In the end after trying various setup strategies I went back to my original with longer gearing, took a bit more care at the tricky bits and found it was OK.  At this point I tried taking some fuel out.  Normally I have trouble with the DP on low fuel but this time I was far more comfortable with it, I was purple all the way round and actually beat my optimum, never mind my PB.  I've never done that before.

In qually I managed to do a PB fairly early so tried a bit of high fuel running.  I was tempted to drop the pressures half a pound as if the car was working well on low fuel it implied that the pressures were more optimal and maybe they were getting too hot with the extra weight.  In the event I decided it was too late to change things so didn't.

The start was good, I held my position and didn't hit anyone.  I even managed to avoid being told to keep up with the car in front on the parade lap which is a first.

I manage to find a decent pace; 1:23s with the odd 1:22 but as I approached the stop the car started to get unstable.  I span it (why do racing drivers say spun?  "It span" "it was spun". :)) but managed a to do a complete 360 so only lost a place or two but the car was getting progressively unpredictable.

Oily managed to spin and ended up behind me.  He was quicker but he wasn't close enough where it mattered.  He had a look into Sheene but thankfully backed out as there's no way I could have stayed wide and gone two wide round there.  I considered taking my pitstop but looking at the laps I wasn't close enough to halfway and figured I needed to do a couple more laps.

Coming into Paddock I missed my braking point slightly and half span it on turn in.  I'd have been fine to rejoin but Oily had followed me wide and couldn't avoid me.  I tried to continue and got round Druids but it was wobbling all over the place and I parked it.  It occurred to me later that it might have just been a puncture but I don't think I could have got it all the way round to the pits without causing problems for other people anyway so I'm glad I parked it.

Congratulations to Brendan and Gary, they were in a race of their own last night.  I watched the end of their race and there was some seriously quick driving going on there.  Passing's difficult enough at Brands normally though and a big car like the DP has no chance.  Gary was all over the back of Brendan at times but the mistake was never going to happen.

Let's see if I'm any better in the Radical.  I prefer smaller cars with power but am better without downforce.

Paul
:)

Lol and  i'll follow that with... Wahey, finally finished a race! (small steps...)

Tough going though, for 60mins. however something was going on as i was quite happy with the car past half-distance and I'd guessed the fuel and put more in than i really needed and naround lap 28 decided to pit and not change tyres, which is a first. Maybe i wasnt having to compensate too much for the setup and push them too much but they didnt really go off too much at all.

Thought i might had a chance to catch pops at one stage but was clearly too far away.

Thanks to Pops for putting up with us and organizing all this and to Pete for putting the money in the meter (server)

Now a bit hesitant over the radical, never quite got on with it. back end too stiff front end too soft.

Terribly. ;D

That's the problem with the more complex cars in sims, they're not easy to set up.  The setup I used last night has 550 springs at the front and 500 at the rear.  That's just wrong on a car with a distinct rearward weight bias.

It would be interesting to see a realistic DP setup and compare.

Paul
:)

Why, the DP is tail heavy and oversteers, increasing front spring rate is a perfectly reasonable way to balance out the oversteer.

I won't give you a setup again if you're going to moan and groan about it.

Regards
Gary

Fun race and I was placed pretty much where I expected without the usual merticulous amounts of preparation you need to iRacing. You really need to be at one with the combination, not just the car or track... I suppose like real life!  ::)

anyway.... good race even tho it ended with a bent car. Can we not have repairs on when you 'don't' tow? Or are the server settings not that detailed yet?

After getting past the half-way mark and running wide coming onto the straight I glanced the wall and put the steering out. Pitted, but obviously that was useless, so tried to carry on and spun twice as it was undrivable.

Good racing with TT & Paul HT to name a few!  (sorry Paul!)

There's no repairs when you pit at present (soon! :laugh:)


 Fixed :)

I wasn't really racing. Staying oin track was hard enough. ::)

Unfortunately I didn't get the chance to practice this one on the Monday night but I have to say, within two scrappy as hell laps I realised this combination was going to be sennnnnnnsational. The Riley felt absolutely awesome around here! The balance was just beautiful and I was finding if I could smooth out my inputs as opposed to doing my normal trick when I try and go fast of chucking it in violently, the rewards were there.

Was pleased with the practice pace but I made such a hash of qually. A combination of buggering about with setups, struggling to get out of the pits in clean air and losing it on cold tyres left me with one opportunity to get a run in towards the end. I didn't banzai it as I was still in 15th at that point and just needed a banker - fortunately I managed to salvage sixth spot which was a relief all things considered!

Managed to get a jump on Gizmo at the start but it was shortlived as I got overexcited on cold tyres and promptly handed the spot back within a few corners. As it happens I'm actually glad I ended up where I did with Ken and Mike as I was really enjoying that trust that meant I could run close with them both - they may not echo this sentiment by the way lol. I felt like I had the pace to pull away if I could just get ahead of that blasted Wrightson but he drove very well, solid laps without any major mistakes and as the biggest speed differential was through Westfield I was left with the option to either "do or die" it at Sheene, or absolutely nail Clearways and Paddock to get the run into Druids where I could sense it was possibly on too.

Anyway after plenty of action and many laps chasing Mike later, I thought I'd do the clever thing, dive in the pits and come out in clean air, just long enough to get the jump (provided he also stopped for tyres of course!). Unfortunately when I rejoined it was right into traffic in 11th spot and as I fast approached Paul T, I went to take the wide line into Paddock to get a run into Druids, when he lost it and I promptly collected him for good measure. Car was buggered, job done. Bit of anticlimax as I was having a blast up until that point but just one of those things.

Thanks Ken and Mike anyway - it really is a pleasure when you're able to run Centimetres away from somebody safe in the knowledge the braking points and lines etc will be consistent - I didn't do a very good job of using my momentum and I really have to stop having a look at gaps when following, only to compromise my own line but all in all that was a slice of what I love about this simracing malarkey! Think I lost half a stone too lol.

Grats Brendan and podium guys - if I'd have know I was 0.021 off your fastest lap of the race I'd have tried a bit harder to rob that accolade from you but I'm not sure there was much left to be fair!

Well done to Mr. Gymer on the championship - well earned!

Can we do it again tonight?  ;D

That was Brendan's fault, I kept wondering when he was going to press the throttle down all the way. ::)

 :thumbup2:

Yeah good point. Grats mate, well deserved  :)

I think that was Mike - I don't think you got anywhere near me. :P :laugh: :angel:

I was just that fast you missed me Dave ;)

Apologies! Quite right, I remember thinking it was you I was dicing with at the time and later realising it was a different blue car - I'm easily confused  ::).

:P