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Season 19 Spec Race Challenge - Round 9 - Hockenheim 67

Spec Racing is back for another blast in the 1965 cars. Whilst the Germans seem to have a preference for creating long twisty tracks like Nurburg, Hockenheim has long fast straights & a slower stadium section. This is the 1967 BC version (BC = before chicanes). If you have not tried it before it won’t take too long to learn & we are using cars that go fast in a straight line. Sorry to have to miss this one due to holidays. I’ve passed on the green starters flag on to Vos.

The 1967 track (no 14) is available here http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?dis=H&menu=Show_Letters

We will run two races on the same track. Two chassis are available, you must use one in each race. Use the same car twice earns you a disqualification in the second race.
Your choice of chariot for this occasion is the 1965 Mod ~ BRM & the Honda.

The Spec Series is a full championship with standard points scoring. In addition the moderator will also tally up every drivers fastest race lap & compare the chassis head to head. For your time to count in the “Spec Challenge” you must complete more than 50% distance in both races. Resets are allowed so don’t retire because of a bad start.
Also the Spec Series in the only GPL championship to be decided exclusively by driver skill, no handicapping applies.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2 *
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 08-08-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Hockenheim 67
Variant = 65 F1
Chassis – ~ BRM V Honda
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 20 minutes [Server will start at 23 mins]
Race length = Intermediate Short
[* Second server kindly provided by Nicky Ickx]

Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=251&theme=6)

Unlimited Shift-R is allowed in the race. No-fault Shift-Rs will not attract a Stop & Go penalty.  All other Shift-Rs must be followed by a Stop & Go.

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time = GMT).

Due to the number of races moderating will be light touch - reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (i.e. the following Friday).

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, the Light Brigade & the Heavy Brigade. The driver allocation is set out below.

LIGHT BRIGADE drivers

Burtoner	Evil Clive	John Roberts
Tim FMG	Hristo	Jethro
Nicky Ickx	Bartosz (Pod)	King Hiro
Clutch	Al Hellar	Ruud Savelkoul
Sam B	Fulvio P	Natan

HEAVY BRIGADE drivers

Bernie	Billy	Bookie
Maestro	Norbert	D Rock
Fabio / Il Lupo	N Hance	Phil T
Nigel Smith	Gilles27	Steve Bird
Graham P	Maddog	Vosblod

NOTE: In the event of more then 19 entrants a second grid for the Light Brigade will be run by Nicky. Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count. If you can try to make sure you are in the chatroom by 8.50pm this will enable a decision without any delays to the start time.

The 1967 track (no 14) is available here http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?dis=H&menu=Show_Letters

Not Found..... (no 14 )

It's there when I look Rob?!

Nope, I click on the link "Get Track", then it comes up Welcome to the GPL Alternative Track Database, then it comes up saying Not Found

The requested URL /Hockenheim/ was not found on this server.

Click on the link and when the Track Database page comes up just scroll down to track #14, and hey presto there it is!   ;)

Ken, you're right, it is listed on the GPLTD page. But if you click the Get Track button it redirects you to

http://dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/Hockenheim/ (http://dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/Hockenheim/)

Which is unavailable at the moment.

Yup thats what I mean...

Houston we have a problem.
Just checking something at SRMZ then, hopefully, will be able to put up an alternative download later...

As its not far off I've uploaded my file so that anyone who needs it can download it.  I'll delete it again after the event so a new link will be needed, but this should do for now.

http://speedsnap.co.uk/zip/hocken67_512_v1.0.zip (http://speedsnap.co.uk/zip/hocken67_512_v1.0.zip)

Thanks Steve  :)

Thanks Steve - the SRMZ admins have also posted it here http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2287&st=228&gopid=49094& (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2287&st=228&gopid=49094&)

hmm, they seem to have a different version, mine is v1, theirs v1.3, does that matter?

I think I shall await the answer before I do any downloading!  :ninja:

Hmm the one on my PC is v1. Hopefully compatible but if anyone has the time to test would be good, I won't be able to until tomorrow... The one looping on ukgpl_6 is v1 I believe.

the one on the server works with what I have installed

Thanks Steve, although I reached my maximum installed tracks :O

There are ways around that Rob.

Yeah if I can remember, you can remove it via GEM?, which I think I done..

Speedgeezers download site now back up;
http://dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/Hockenheim/ (http://dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/Hockenheim/)

Sorry for the tap in R2 Vosb hope it didnt spoil the race for you too much , was enjoying the persuit up to then and was trying to get close enough for the tow but you seemed to slow a lot more for the corner :-\

mea culpa  :-\

No problem Bernie, had a bit of fun and didn't spoil the race.

And a big congrats to Steve for sealing the Heavies  :thumbup2:

 :) :) :)
that again was big fun !! one more time thanks to Billy for creating this !

 :D as well thanks to Phil and Goran for sharing setup !

see ya al at next breasts race

Well that was awesome fun in both races.

Apologies to Natan for the accident on L1 of R1, my lack of experience towing caught me out a bit there. After that I had a great battle with Nicky who is an expert at placing his car in the middle of the road and leaving me a tricky choice of which side to go. Several times I got alongside but it was only a mistake in the end that let me past him. Thanks Nicky for some good clean racing.

In R2 Nicky fell off early leaving me to battle with Martin. This was a great scrap too albeit with a few more errors from us both. I'd got in front when I disco'ed on the penultimate lap, shame as I was on for a decent finish behind Steve, as leading novice.

Anyway well done to Tim up front for the two wins and to Steve for being champ of the Heavies, amazing consistency Mr Bird :)

I had no Internet so I couldn't enter this one. Looks like we'll have to battle it out with Tim in the last race!

You'll have to do badly to loose H, I'm an additional 66 points down due to the dropped races.
In theory I can still win, but it's unlikely unless you miss the next race aswell  ;D

If you're sure about that, I could miss one of the races and make it go really down to the wire.  ;D

Then again, you won the AMs again, so maybe not.  :P

Been trying to get up to speed on this track again using the BRM . The best lap I can muster is in low 2m 04's bracket which considering the track is mostly motorway driving doesnt make sense  :-[

God knows where you guys get the speed from  ::)

 If we are talking about laps without slipstream assistance Bernie, I find that the speed out of T1 and speed carried through T2 ( between the 2 long straights has a huge effect on lap times  ( well a couple of secs if you get it absolutely right).

Also don't underestimate the time spent in the "stadium" section. There is always time to be gained in slow corners if you make it neat and tidy.

With slipstream you can knock a couple of seconds more off easily, so the race is all about finding a willing tow truck.
 

In "the race" the slow bits were fine with good corner exit speed , the few tow trucks I did find just drove away on the straight .

It was the same for both races but found the BRM faster through the twiddly bits , I was suprised the riceburner didnt pick up the tow but maybe that was a gear ratio thing ( both set ups my own ) 

concluding its probably just my crappy driving  ::)

(either that or Vos has knobbled me GPL driver.ini in retribution for SPA )  ;D

The Wazamobile is a delicate and highly tuned car and as such needs careful handling, as I often demonstrate  ;D

For what its worth,

Although the red line is at something stoopid like 14K, you really don't want to exceed 12.5K in any gear even on long straights. Max torque is around 12k and after that it drops away to the point that trying to pull 13.5K is a waste of time, unless you are very closely following a rocket powered supertanker on the straights.
Also the steps between the gears are worth checking. In my setup 4th-5th drops only 1000 revs, whereas 2nd -1st might be closer to 2000revs all to do with torque curves or something..... :-\

My "red line" is about 2 laps into the race  ;D

Max power is @12,000rpm, peak torque is somewhat lower  :)
Other than that Clive is correct in saying that revving past 13.5k is a waste of time, Personally I don't even take the Waza that high.
Also you'd find the Waza unlikely to finish that often if it was abused to the red line for an entire race!  ;D
Frequently going to 12,500rpm and above for extended periods is enough to get engine temps 'toastie' in races at Pro damage.

If you like I can send you my setups Bernie, Even if you can't drive them as is you can at least copy the gearing onto your own  :thumbup1: