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Title: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: picnic on October 28, 2005, 08:43:44 AM +0100
GTL UK Launch Races

To coincide with the UK (and elsewhere?) release of GT Legends lets meet up and have some fun.

ALL UKGTL'ers WELCOME!

Date: Friday 4th November

Practice: 8:15pm (30 mins) - Get to show off your winning cars, but we should stick to single makes for the races (see below)
Qual: 8:45pm (15 mins)
Warmup: 9:00pm (2 mins)
Race 1: 9:02pm (20 mins) - STANDING START - Lotus Cortinas ONLY
Race 2: 10:05pm (20 mins) - STANDING START - Mini Cooper ONLY

Track: Suggestions Welcome, or random on the night
Race Time: 14:00

Password: usual practice password (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2929)

Fingers crossed arranging this doesn't bring bad luck and that everyone who has pre-ordered gets the game on the day  :o


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 28, 2005, 09:01:19 AM +0100
Great, can't wait. When does season 1 start ;)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: picnic on October 28, 2005, 09:15:39 AM +0100
Unless we get a means to cheat, the process of winning enough money to buy a decent car might mean about a year for me :o

WTF does the online play have to these stupid restrictions  :-\


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Luis Branco on October 28, 2005, 09:20:06 AM +0100
It's very strange that GTL isn't yet released in UK.
We have it here in Portugal em several big stores, including Vobis and Worten since 20/10.
In fact is on sold everywhere here in Portugal.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: popabawa on October 28, 2005, 09:46:53 AM +0100
Unless we get a means to cheat, the process of winning enough money to buy a decent car might mean about a year for me :o

WTF does the online play have to these stupid restrictions  :-\

Picnic, there is a cheat so you can unlock all the cars. Fairly easy to find in the GTL forum over at RSC.

Pops.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 28, 2005, 10:02:41 AM +0100
Track: Suggestions Welcome, or random on the night
Race Time: 18:00 (should have a nice twilight look  )

May i suggest we make it 14:00 race time so as to maximise everybody's framerate (especially people that will have had about 5 minutes to tweak their game options).

We should not use any of the GP tracks with the cars selected yet I reckon. The short circuits are brilliant fun for these cars.
The 2 we did last night were fine (the first 2 in the list), but any of the short circuits will do. The short circuits are...

Nurgurgring Mullenbach
Magny Cours Club
Hockenheim Short
Mondello Park Short
Anderstorp North
Anderstorp South
Dijon Prenois Short
Nurburgring Sprint
Monza Junior (last cause the frame rate here seems to be worse than other circuits)

BTW, you also win money in online races, so there are plenty of ways to earn credits.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: picnic on October 28, 2005, 10:10:25 AM +0100
Picnic, there is a cheat so you can unlock all the cars. Fairly easy to find in the GTL forum over at RSC.

Cool :D Don't visit RSC unless I have to, I'm too impatient and it is so slow most of the time.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: picnic on October 28, 2005, 10:13:32 AM +0100
[May i suggest we make it 14:00 race time so as to maximise everybody's framerate (especially people that will have had about 5 minutes to tweak their game options).

Ok, changed as this is probably prudent ;)

We should not use any of the GP tracks with the cars selected yet I reckon. The short circuits are brilliant fun for these cars.
The 2 we did last night were fine (the first 2 in the list), but any of the short circuits will do. The short circuits are...

Nurgurgring Mullenbach
Magny Cours Club
Hockenheim Short
Mondello Park Short
Anderstorp North
Anderstorp South
Dijon Prenois Short
Nurburgring Sprint
Monza Junior (last cause the frame rate here seems to be worse than other circuits)

Cheers Shark, will stick to this order so people have a chance to practice if they get time.

BTW, you also win money in online races, so there are plenty of ways to earn credits.

But you're good enough to win them, I expect 8th and 9ths pickup peanuts ;)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Don on October 28, 2005, 11:29:34 AM +0100
Unless we get a means to cheat, the process of winning enough money to buy a decent car might mean about a year for me :o

WTF does the online play have to these stupid restrictions  :-\

Picnic, there is a cheat so you can unlock all the cars. Fairly easy to find in the GTL forum over at RSC.

Pops.

Oh no, I just had to do it!
Didn't realise how much there was to do in the career mode, I even got fed up after unlocking (cheating) 35%.
Now I've got enough dosh to buy the cars I'am interested in.
Don.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: PaulW on October 28, 2005, 11:53:56 AM +0100
Goddamit I have to buy the game now :( ;)

(Assuming it actually runs) I'll act as a kind of mobile chicane for you all then, seeing as I won't know the cars, the tracks and will probably be running at 25fps until I figure out the graphics!


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: fozzmeister on October 28, 2005, 12:10:15 PM +0100
Oh dear, miss races or buy GTL... I saw there is a UKGTL section in the championships bit too...

Damn you all for forcing this decision on me :-)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 28, 2005, 01:15:22 PM +0100
Ssssh only 16 can take part  ;).

The fun of rfactor with the realism of GTR you want regret it.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 28, 2005, 02:37:58 PM +0100
Ssssh only 16 can take part  ;).

Indeed, although sources tell us that that limit will be lifted in an upcoming patch. 8)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: fozzmeister on October 28, 2005, 04:41:49 PM +0100
I thought they only said the fsck'd up, we know SimBin do that, but do they actually ever fix anything?


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: pswillies on October 28, 2005, 04:58:34 PM +0100
Any recommendations on where to order it from that is actually likely to deliver it to me on the 4th?

 :)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 28, 2005, 05:04:25 PM +0100
I thought they only said the fsck'd up, we know SimBin do that, but do they actually ever fix anything?

GTR had 4 patches so the factual answer to that is yes. They didn't fix everything everybody wanted but then life's a bitch deal with her.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: silver53 on October 28, 2005, 06:43:43 PM +0100
Hi guys mine just turned up.cheers gerald


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: PaulW on October 28, 2005, 07:25:33 PM +0100
Just ordered the mother from play.com. See y'all there assuming postey doesn't let me down :)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: LEUVEN on October 28, 2005, 11:16:39 PM +0100
Just ordered the mother from play.com. See y'all there assuming postey doesn't let me down :)

Ditto, couldn't resist clicking "Buy" any longer.  ;D


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: codsworth on October 28, 2005, 11:52:50 PM +0100
 I'm looking forward to this! ;D

See you there!


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Don on October 29, 2005, 08:14:10 AM +0100
Am' I alone in being the only one to have tried the unlock cheat?
Don.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: picnic on October 29, 2005, 08:48:51 AM +0100
Am' I alone in being the only one to have tried the unlock cheat?

I'll probably join you when I get the game  ;)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: locutos ukgtr on October 29, 2005, 09:32:31 AM +0100
Damn, I really was going to wait till I was sure SinBin had made a better job of this one, looks like you buggers have forced my hand! Game ordered from Amazon, hopefully will be up to race on 4th.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Jamera on October 29, 2005, 04:23:28 PM +0100
Am' I alone in being the only one to have tried the unlock cheat?
Don.


No mate, I got 3/4 of the way through and thought "bugger this, I'm wasting valuable online racing time"

Mind you still took about 45  mins from there


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: silver53 on October 29, 2005, 08:29:04 PM +0100
Hi Guys what mode will the GTL be in on 4th bye for now gerald


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 29, 2005, 09:33:38 PM +0100
Hi Guys what mode will the GTL be in on 4th bye for now gerald

It will be on professional.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: silver53 on October 30, 2005, 08:22:50 AM +0000
Thanks Shark Hope you lot are slower than the A1 drivers as they dissapear into the distance at present lol gerald  :)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Jamera on October 30, 2005, 11:25:11 AM +0000
Thanks Shark Hope you lot are slower than the A1 drivers as they dissapear into the distance at present lol gerald  :)


If you are struggling with the AI I saw a post somewhere regarding their braking and cornering (doesn't affect their straightline speed).

AI Brake Power Usage="0.98000" // Fraction of theoretical brake power that AI attempt to use
AI Brake Grip Usage="0.97000" // Fraction of theoretical brake grip that AI attempt to use
AI Corner Grip Usage="0.93000" // Fraction of theoretical cornering grip that AI attempt to use

If you adjust these downwards it is better than just reducing AI strength line (AI Driver Strength="100") as that also affects their straightline speed


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: rufbtr on October 30, 2005, 06:44:21 PM +0000
can't make it , i am going on a holiday for a week from the 4e till 11e.

you guys have fun.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: LEUVEN on November 04, 2005, 06:47:29 PM +0000
I best get some practice in now for online.

What car would you suggest be my first to buy?

I was thinking the porsche, or the BM or the Capri, Escort...............Can't decide  ;D ???  ;D


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: pswillies on November 04, 2005, 07:26:50 PM +0000
I'll try and drop in for a bit.  It's a bit of a change from GTR... need some more practice with those mini's!

 :)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 04, 2005, 10:06:17 PM +0000
Well, that was both enormous fun and very frustrating. After surprising myself by getting on the front row alongside Shark for the Cortina race, having set the fastest time in practice, we both jumped the start and had to stop and go. Good fun working out way back up to finish 7th and 8th.

After that, despite my dislike for the FWD Minis I ws something like 5th on the grid for the Magny-Cours race. As the session started I went to the grid... and then wondered where everyone else was. ??? Then after about 90 seconds it told me my connection had been lost. >:(

Lots and lots of potential there, but the patch is needed badly, and I do wish there was a simple hack to get all the cars and tracks because I don't have the time or energy to play my way through all those stupid cups. :-\


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: PaulW on November 04, 2005, 10:59:20 PM +0000
Superb fun, such a great game. Thanks all. Not sure what it is about GTL but the racing is super close and you can make some great saves when you are out of shape and just keep on trucking :)

I believe there is a hack over on RSC Dave. I've completed only a handful of cup races and already have the cash to buy whatever lower car I want, selling as needed to get cash for a car for a given race. And then racing online gets you even more (but not with you lot ;)). I suspect I'll join you in a hack eventually though!


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 04, 2005, 11:27:36 PM +0000
It's still great ;D.

Our new kitten bit through telephone extension and cut me off in first practice. With skillfull use of my teeth got back just in time. Took the lead, with the odd first lap pistop of the Gymer brothers, only to get punted off from behind. All three races I followed this model of battling near top only to be sent to the rear. Just made the racing even better as the whole field is so close and battling in a mixed car, same class, race was simply sublime.

Thx to picnic and all.

p.s. can we have a cobra race asap?     


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 04, 2005, 11:34:20 PM +0000
Then after about 90 seconds it told me my connection had been lost. >:(

Lots and lots of potential there, but the patch is needed badly, and I do wish there was a simple hack to get all the cars and tracks because I don't have the time or energy to play my way through all those stupid cups. :-\

Hmm, not had any probs other than it losing my wheel completely every other online race. I agree we need the patch especially to increase server limit and iron out the crashes in the lobby that some people are getting, but still no reports of 1 fps so that is really promising and generally the net play is excellent. The start works, the lights work, all little imrpovements over GTR.

The Cups are worth doing just to force you to have a go at all the tracks in lots of different cars. It really doesnt take long to get enough money to buy decent cars. I've only completed 2 of the cups but have loads to play with now. Just need to win the GT40 really as I really want to have a go in that.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: picnic on November 05, 2005, 08:46:16 AM +0000
I had a few game problems last night, when I first started the game didn't respond to the wheel or pedals. Into controller and it couldn't see any changes, even if I re-selected the wheel from the input controllers. Quit, ran the controller thing in Control Panel to check it could see the wheel, yup was the answer so back in to GTL. Can now see the controller but had binned all my settings, not just the wheel related ones, anything I had changed.

Then there is the chat window, in many ways an improvement over what's in GTR but it doesn't tell you anything about the state of the game, session ended,, race about to start, how quick everyone is going etc. Then you can't scroll the list of races to see all the times (apparently this is a known problem and will be fixed in the patch)

As for server replays, how disappointing is it that a known problem in GTR (which I guess will never get fixed) still makes it in to the release version of a new game. And it's not even a subtle problem, no wheels in the server replays.

On a more positive note the racing can be very close and slight contact doesn't automatically result in one of both cars having an off. We had some seriously good racing last night, especially when we all had the same kit. But then that tends to be true of spec racing in GPL/GTR/rFactor as well. This sim will give me many hours of fun but I just wish SIMBIN would finish a product  :D


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: picnic on November 05, 2005, 09:15:18 AM +0000
Thanks to Shark, Zip of the replays now available http://ukgtl.simracing.org.uk/


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: PaulW on November 05, 2005, 10:21:35 AM +0000
The core of the game is there though and sweet as candy!

The issues are little niggles that should have been fixed but Simbin, sorry- weren't  ;)

I'm interested to see how things sit after the patch since it looks like it will solve the vast majority of issues we've had/have with GTR/GTL, like the missing wheels in the replays. I crashed 7 times trying to refresh the server list last night and was pretty frustrated but, again, this is supposedly fixed with the patch.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Jamera on November 05, 2005, 10:35:03 AM +0000
SBG- Look at the lotus race at anders @ 329.151 television mode, talk about syncronised drifting, pity i couldn't keep it on the track, would have been sweet ;)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Jamera on November 05, 2005, 10:47:10 AM +0000
I'm up for another go tonight if anyone is interested


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 05, 2005, 11:50:27 AM +0000
Picnic 

That controller problem is another bug left over from GTR and can be fixed in same way. Go to controller options then ff options and then click them off then on again. It works for me anyways, just seems sloppy for them not to have fixed it.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: picnic on November 05, 2005, 11:54:55 AM +0000
That controller problem is another bug left over from GTR and can be fixed in same way. Go to controller options then ff options and then click them off then on again. It works for me anyways, just seems sloppy for them not to have fixed it.

I've used that technique to cure no FF but never had a problem where nothing worked and all my bindings are reset. I will however try this if it happens again, cheers


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: picnic on November 05, 2005, 11:57:37 AM +0000
I'm up for another go tonight if anyone is interested

Server is still up and and I'll leave it so.

If I can't make it (or Shark) you will have to vote next session/event and agree if you want to limit cars. Not sure if I will be there, depends on the weather, which is meant to be rubbish so I expect no fireworks and I will be there  ;)


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: mclaessen on November 05, 2005, 12:50:00 PM +0000
I'll be there tonight I think. At what time do we start?


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: picnic on November 05, 2005, 01:09:28 PM +0000
I'll be there tonight I think. At what time do we start?

Tonight is a bit ad-hoc so no set time. I get the feeling people join when someone else is already there so if you're game go camp on the server and others often come :)



Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Jamera on November 05, 2005, 01:43:36 PM +0000
I'll be there tonight I think. At what time do we start?

Tonight is a bit ad-hoc so no set time. I get the feeling people join when someone else is already there so if you're game go camp on the server and others often come :)



Does that mean we all have to wear fake tan and speak like Dale Winton?  ;D


I will deff be on there tonight


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Don on November 05, 2005, 01:46:55 PM +0000
I'll be there tonight I think. At what time do we start?

Tonight is a bit ad-hoc so no set time. I get the feeling people join when someone else is already there so if you're game go camp on the server and others often come :)



Does that mean we all have to wear fake tan and speak like Dale Winton?  ;D

Might be an idea Jam.


I will deff be on there tonight


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: LEUVEN on November 05, 2005, 02:10:25 PM +0000

Tonight is a bit ad-hoc so no set time. I get the feeling people join when someone else is already there so if you're game go camp on the server and others often come :)



I just wish I had two body's so I could be in the server all the time. :D


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 05, 2005, 03:27:49 PM +0000
What forum member is "MichaelB"? Just using last night's race results to update the importer ready for whatever league races use GTL and want to make sure I get the right people's names mapped.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: silver53 on November 05, 2005, 03:45:48 PM +0000
Hi Guys tried to join in but was not allowed to by program said I was unrecognised . Am trying again to register.gerald


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 05, 2005, 04:14:42 PM +0000
What forum member is "MichaelB"? Just using last night's race results to update the importer ready for whatever league races use GTL and want to make sure I get the right people's names mapped.

LOL! That's fellow moderator Aagramn!!!!


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Simon Gymer on November 05, 2005, 04:15:31 PM +0000
That controller problem is another bug left over from GTR and can be fixed in same way. Go to controller options then ff options and then click them off then on again. It works for me anyways, just seems sloppy for them not to have fixed it.

I've used that technique to cure no FF but never had a problem where nothing worked and all my bindings are reset. I will however try this if it happens again, cheers

It does fix it every time Picnic. I never had this problem in GTR but every other online race it just losed my wheel completely. Simply dropping FF to high then back to full fixes it.


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Jamera on November 05, 2005, 04:25:34 PM +0000
That controller problem is another bug left over from GTR and can be fixed in same way. Go to controller options then ff options and then click them off then on again. It works for me anyways, just seems sloppy for them not to have fixed it.

I've used that technique to cure no FF but never had a problem where nothing worked and all my bindings are reset. I will however try this if it happens again, cheers

It does fix it every time Picnic. I never had this problem in GTR but every other online race it just losed my wheel completely. Simply dropping FF to high then back to full fixes it.


I find just unchecking/ checking the reverse feedback box does it too


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on November 05, 2005, 04:43:19 PM +0000
What forum member is "MichaelB"? Just using last night's race results to update the importer ready for whatever league races use GTL and want to make sure I get the right people's names mapped.

LOL! That's fellow moderator Aagramn!!!!

D'oh! That'll teach him to use different names for different sims!


Title: Re: GTL UK Launch Races
Post by: Aagramn on November 07, 2005, 05:28:56 PM +0000
Why, what have you done to me?  :o  ???  :o

Was a lot of fun, especially the first race in the Cortinas.