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Practice 1: 20:00 (20 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (60 minutes) - note: no warm up!

Cars allowed: Any GT1 from the NEW v2.13.0.0 car pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics)

Track: Dubai GP
Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: Changeable. (Similer to real-world conditions)
Virtual Race Weather Forecast (for rough guidance only) To be Published ~19:30pm on Race night:
FORECAST is
 Weather: Dry with cloud
 Ambient: 39.00
 Track: 39.85
 Early Conditions:  Dry
 Mid Race Conditions:  Dry
 Late Race Conditions:  Dry


Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: x2
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.


Server: UKGTR2 Enduro
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Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3349.0) - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
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(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
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(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.

I'm back, and I'll be at this race :D

hm, 60 min and fuel x2, interesting! Have you guys double checked that no car can complete the 1 hour race with only 1 pitstop? Hope not, cause most cars will need 2 pitstops. Is it probably two mandatory pitstops instead of one? ;)

Cars have bigger fuel tank, X. :)

dubai is one of my favourite tracks.

yesterday i did loose every 5-10min. internetconnection, no idea why this was, i was looking forward to drive birmingham (porsche RS).
But i do more looking forward to drive in dubai in (nearly sure) dry weather.
i did no cars test this season, but i think i do drive my favourite car 575 or lister which have a good advantage in pitstop now with 2xfuel and only 60min. race.

think racelaptimes will be 1.52.xxx in 1st stint with 140l. quali i think 1.50.low for me.

servus

Can't break into the low 1:50's so I am going to sit this one out.  :P

This track has always been tough for me.

I dont think many of us will be doing 1.50's! Not practised yet but 54's come to mind.

are you crazy, anything better than 1:53 in race trim is approaching alien territory in my eyes!

100% agreee....  im hitting 53's in qualy trim at the mo 

Not my fave either. I recommend the Vette if your struggling a tad as its pretty forgiving and damn fast. Stay well clear of the MC12 as its awful around here, as it was before recent improvements :'( Shout if you want to try my vette setup and, as a former crawler, you can have it if you promise to beat spanner/legzy et al ;)

Things have calmed down a bit so I intend to get back on the saddle and join in on Sunday. It also seems that I have inadvertenly lost my saved setups when I recently migrated to Windows 7 :(. Ginsters, would be so kind in sending me your vette setup for dubai? Thanks!

btw, I seem to remember people having problems with Windows 7 and GTR2 (or maybe it was PnG). Was I dreaming this and, if not, what were they? I haven't had any problems with GTR2 and Windows 7 yet.

No problems here.

Here's my setup for C6 http://www.filefront.com/17193157/c6.svm Not sure if soft/med will last but stick with split choice as oversteer is best around here, for me anyways.

Thanks very much.

Will be good to see you both back on track 8), sadly I'm awol for the next two races (one of each series)... good job everyone has a drop score this season :whistling:

I look forward to seeing how all the cars perform & then picking the best one :angel:

Hmm... may need to rethink this  ;D I truly thought I was off the pace here. I am running consistant 1:58's. I did turn a 1:56, so I guess I am good to go. My Northbridge chip set appears to be unstable on my MB. I tried different drivers, memory tests, etc. and determined it's a bad chip. The MB is no longer available which is a bummer. With that said, I am moving away from AMD and going to an i7 Intel chip. If all goes well, I should be back online for the race on Sunday.

Thanks for the encouragement!

How on earth did you work out the nb chip was at fault? Pretty much everything gets routed through there.

Hey Spanner,

MSI sent me a program to diagnose the MB. I also have a program that runs a stress test. The MSI program showed errors on the chip and it was running very hot. Apparently this MB has had a history of burning up these chips. The cooling system for this chip is pretty spectacular which was one of the reasons I bought it.  ???

I think it happened last month when I was flying my Albatros low over the Somme River and a crack shot of Aussies hit my engine LOL.

Took th G25 pedals apart and all being well no more flickering brake lights or dodgy throttle for me in this one  8)

Expecting a good race here, Dubai is a great track and really highlights how important good racing lines are to get a fast time. Hoping to start the championship well with a good turn out Sunday evening.

I got my new system up and running. It works very well  ;D. Thanks Truetom for the set ups  8). I plan on practicing a bunch on Saturday to continue to get to know the racing lines on the track.

Did some more running tonight and was doing low 55's with 100L onboard in the Aston and the Saleen, though the Saleen needs a bit more work to it as the front doesn't want to bite no matter how stiff i go.

you need more pace spanner, even i was managing late 1:53's race pace with 1hr fuel onboard and i am carp at GT1  ;D

Still undecided on my GT1 chariot, C6 is my probable option as never used it for a season but want to try the Aston too.

Try softening the front fast bump and rebound a little and doing the opposite on the rear, and stiffen the rear arb a bit too relative to the front to give a more oversteery balance. My race pace is in the 52's, i know the track very well so i have only done a handful of laps mainly just to get my strategy right (i hope!)

I remember when i used to do hotlaps here a few years ago in the 550 and my absolute best was 1:50.9, and that was really as fast as i could possibly go. In the same car now i am in the 49's!  :o Just goes to show how practice can make the seemingly impossible quite achieveable.

Yeah, well i guess last week was an ominous start, looks like its gonna be a lonely season at the back >:(

I've never quite got on with oversteering cars. I've dropped the rear slow bump at the rear to help give me more traction, i've played with fast bump front and rear but havent really noticed a difference. I find if i increase the rear arb i start losing the back too much, and stiffening up the rear and it feels like its not allowing the car to turn.

It just feels like i dont have the grip, the front doesnt want to turn and the rear lieks to get away a bit.

I just seem to be struggling in everything at the moment. Oh god of simracing what have i done to upset you? :angel:

My race pace is high 55s in the C6R - my usual form in GTR2  ::) At least the noise from that v8 will keep me smiling.

I'm trying to avoid the popular 'fastest' cars in the classes, GT1 C6, GTC 997, but i can see i'll have to join you at some stage if i'm still struggling!

Well that makes me feel much better  :-\  I'm in the "fastest" car and at the back of the grid. And if I manage by some miracle to finish midfield, that's ok because I was in the "fastest" car  ::)

I thought the whole point of balancing was so that each could choose the car they prefer and still be on par with everyone else.

Its impossible to balance the car pack, there are too many variables to consider such as the type of track used and car setup. And thats before you even begin to factor in the drivers skill and technique, car handling preferences and fuel loads. I've been there and tried it testing out cars and trying equal the playing field, there is always an advantage for one type of car on some tracks or in the hands of a particular driver. My advice is to just pick whatever car you feel best in, most at home with, and forget the whole "fastest" car debate.

As long as we all have someone to race with it can still be great fun, whether its battling for first or last position  8)

The idea of balancing the cars, as I understand it Goldtop is that:

All cars have different characteristics & naturally do better at some tracks then others. Balancing is ongoing & is aimed at making all cars as equal as possible over a range of tracks.

Following that, I can't imagine the C6 you're in being an obvious winner at Dubai. While at the Le Mans event... 8)

I totally agree Jayblue and Legzy. My post was a sarcastic response to Spanner's comment about what he perceives to be the "fastest" cars (and btw, was not meant to be offensive to you Spanner  :angel:)

Easiest car to drive would be the Lister. Doesn' need a whole lot to set up, so...

Spanner, if you have a setup for any track that you have been semi satisfied with, just use it here. I find I can use my Spa or Dubai setup on almost every circuit with minimum adjustments. A new track? Let's try it with Dubai setup. Dubai suits me as my "natural" track and I use it as my base. I made laps with Saleen, C6R, MC12, Lambo and Marcos. Made under 1:52 in all except Marcos (1:53:7xx) and if I can do it you can also. :D Or, if you need a setup, shout. I'm sure you will find it undrivable like others did. :P

Back to the Marcos I'm hoping for you TT?

Hehe, no, I'll take the C6R this season. We'll see for the next. :)

People need to forget how well JR did in this car before I can blame it for being slow again. :D

Just been doing some driving around here....and I've decided this is one of my hate tracks!! The braking areas are too bumpy for me, which unsettles the car, and makes it a nightmare to hit the apex and get good traction out of the corner.
The quickest car for me at moment is the Lister (1:55.8 with full fuel)...it has nice front end grip, with a touch of over steer.
If I can't improve my time to a low 1:55 though, I'll probably give this race a miss. Running at the back on this track is not my idea of fun :(

hello,

i have a question to the people which mod. the carpack the fuel to 140l.

i try it, but i am not sure if i can explain....

now cars have 140l , can it be, that now with 140l it is same fuelweight then orginal with 100l??
i did any laps in server and i was shocked..... i did 1.50.6 and a 1.50.8 with 100l  , normaly i can do 1.51.low-mid if i am fast, i did easy 1.51.low, so i was thinking perhaps 100l is not REAL 100l weight because of now 140l in full tank???
do someone know this???
or was i am only so quick  ;D

i know 575 had -5kg but this is only under 0.1 sec. a lap and i did with lister and aston any days ago 1.51.high with 140l !!!! and i was much surprised too, so i was thinking about this with 140l = 100l orginal.

hope someone understand this and can give answear

servus

I'm nipping out for a couple of hours so I've done the weather forecast a little early. See the 1st post.

See you all for the race :)

Your call, but I'd like to see you racing. :)

I don't know as i haven't tested much  ???

Have fun driving off into the distance tonight Berger because a race pace in the 50's is about as fast as my quali pace  :laugh:

39 ambient. Wow, that's hot! :o

That temperature is gonna make it less funny for all :(

Yet to decide my car, but may park my Lambo for a season and probably take the Lister or something else

if i know something 100%, then i do not drive into the distance as long as you drive in same race, this was always so and will be so in future too.
i think this will be a very very high level race.
busi with fast lister save 6-7 sec. in pitboxes to 575 (and busi is extrem fast in pitstop), jayblue, ginsters by s. (which i saw 1.49.xxx in server from him too), ruskus perhaps? and other perhaps which i do not know, it can be a hard race.
strategy is so important too with 2xfuel and normal tyres, i know if you are perhaps 10sec. behind me before pitstop, you (and other i think too) do not change tyres, because i think it is possible to drive race without change tyres. lister without change tyres save 28-29 sec. in pitstop to 575 (if he change tyres).

hot temps are not good for me, i do not like hard tyres, same fast out and i am slower with this tyres.

Lost my net connection on the first lap. :(

That is 2 nights in a row. >:(

God dam gAy OL!

My frozen car must have gotten in the way. Sorry!

PC reboot with 20 mins to go. Finally had a hot day down here and she overheated :'(


To be honest, not that worried as pitstops pretty much put an end to great fun for first half of race. Thanks to JB and Busi for great 30 mins :)

60 mins of flat out fun with those gents would have been ace, but hey ho. I'll leave you to it :)

Another frustrating night in GTR2 for me.

Spent a long time practicing this afternoon in the C6R getting nowhere, then jumped into the Murcielago, a car I've hardly driven, grabbed a setup from the online folders and was nearly 2 secs quicker straight away  ???  This was enough to get me a few places off the back of the grid in quali. Had an ok start and was having a nice little battle with Spanner when I did my usual skew coming off a corner and into the wall. I'm becoming a real expert at this manouvre, so if anyone wants any tips.........  :wetfish:

A couple of silly errors later, a lagging car in front of me and a bundled pitstop where my dozy crew decided I needed new tyres  ::) and I'd had enough.

That's it for GTR2 for me I'm afraid; Too much time needed to get anywhere near decent pace and the girls are way too ugly this far down the grid.

woops didnt expect much from this race knowing i would be extremely slow compared to most guys but anyway had fun trying to bring it home even if i was last (or just before last) .. did a lot of errors (alone) and was a bit slowish compared to my training, wouldnt have changed the final result but still i think i could have done a bit better

big sorry for the rolling start lap, my pc went back to desktop (thx adobe flash updater), and it took me several seconds to grab my keyboard and get back on the game, i had the reflex to slow down and get on the left straight into the barrier to not cause any harm to fellow racers while i wasnt seeing the game screen, and i think it worked and i didnt hit anyone

then i didnt know if i should get back in position, but oh well i was not a factor so probably no-one will complain if i did something wrong hehe  :P

might keep training and join another gt1 race in the future, will need some courage though  ;D

had a tough race, was suffering big time from a hangover from hell  :P ...tried desperately not to puke in my helmet  ;)

Was intending to take the aston but just couldnt handle the screamy engine with my sore head  :laugh: so took the C6.

Had an okay race with a few good little chases and gradually crept up the order to finish an almost respectable 10th. :)

Pitstop went okay but appeared to have way too much fuel left at the end. Only one minor off when i gave it some beans out of the carousel type corner, not bad going in these tricky monsters.

Replay and provisional results posted

LapChart (http://www.granum.plus.com/20100815%20U13UE/index.html)

Good fun in the Lister, having a very close race with Jayblue and Ginsters ;D

Started 4th, kept 4th until the pitstops, but JUST behind them. Pitted together with Ginsters and leapfrogged him by far thanks to not changing tyres. Jayblue also changed tyres so I was up to 2nd, but he was FLYING in the fresh rubber and he caught me at 2 secs per lap. Also probably due to a hit I suffered coming out of the long left hander, which damaged my aero a bit. Berger was still in the lead BTW cause he didn't change tyres.

As soon as Jayblue caught me, he went up the inside of T1 to take the position, couldn't defend too much with my old tyres. Tried to keep it on the black stuff and finished in a good 3rd, but hoping to challenge those two fast guys at the front for the next race :P

Grats all and thanks :)

That was a great fun race. I did my best in quali and got second, as good as i could expect as i knew Berger was faster on a single lap than me here anyway. At the start there was a bit of lag just when Berger released his limiter at the line and i hesitated, allowing SBG to get very close to me at the first turn. Luckily i had practiced the rolling start and knew exactly how late i could brake and kept the position. After that Berger gradually eased away and initially i was able to pull away from SBG and Busi - after a few laps they started to catch me and i began struggling with oversteer.

SBG was very close right up until he and Busi stopped, the gap was mostly around 0.4 with Busi right behind too, waiting to capitalize on any little mistakes. It was a really enjoyable first stint and great to race with mature guys who i knew wouldn't just "send one" up the inside when it wasn't really on  8)

After Busi and SBG stopped i knew i needed to push on, my stop was two laps later and from the gaps i realized Busi hadn't changed tyres and SBG had. This was the point were i lost the race as i had two very scruffy laps, i nearly span out twice and lost several seconds as i pushed too hard and got the rear tyres too hot. Berger eased away some more to have a six second lead when i stopped. I exited the pits into a lot of traffic and some 22 secs down on Busi, SBG had just left the game for some reason so i never got see how that one would play out. Shame was it would have been a real thriller with both of us chasing down Berger and Busi whilst battling each other.

Another few scruffy laps in traffic initially stunted my progress before i found some rhythm and pace and really started closing the lead two down. I caught Busi and made my move into turn one straight away. I think we may have touched at the apex, but we were side to side and i couldn't see Busi's car. Sorry if we did bang doors Busi. After that i chased Berger as fast as i could but the gap was just too big and he won by four seconds.

Brilliant season opener and looing forward to the rest of the season!

Another brilliant race with API - we were close all 60 minutes. :sweatdrop: First stint he was behind and couldn't pass and then sneaked past me through the pit. :wetfish: Then I was behind and couldn't pass. He managed to best me this time but I'm sure we'll be all over eachother in the next race. :thumbup2:

Aliens in front were too fast this time. Could stay close to Busi for a few laps but the gap went gradualy bigger, just a few tenths each lap. Well... :-\
Too bad sbg doesn't want to race this way. Will you at least join us for GTC sprints? They're dry race and no strategy. Would like Goldtop to stay with us also.

Thumbs up for Beckam to stay with us all the race, even if he was a bit slower. Am at your disposal for any advice and/or setup, training session, etc. Even if some would say you could get a faster help. ;)

Grats to pody and well done for MJ. Can see this track suits you, buddy. 8)

emm...would have suited me a lot more to not be so hungover  :-[ combined with having to use Hard slicks for the heat, cost me 1.5-2 secs a lap off my praccy/race pace so could have ended up with a top 6 chance barring any incidents. Good fun nonetheless with Matt keeping me honest chasing my butt for last 20mins of the race.

Ended up being a decent race, my pace was too slow compared to Lazlow and Picnic but had Mcfids and Goldtop round which was shaping up for a good race. Sadly it seemed it ended early. Was gaining on Mcfids, tried looking into the last corner but i think Mcfids caught the curbs as he shot off and i never felt a thing though felt guilty for most of the lap. But then saw Mcfids try and rejoin on the outside of the last turn but he hit GT and with the force that he rebounded into the barriers looked like a bit of warping was going on. GT carried on as nothing happened and i had seen some slight warping going on which was going to make things difficult when getting close.

After that was just trying to watch the gaps behind till the stop. Dont know why but the car didnt really feel too bad, i guess i'm used to having the tire wear widly out though. Managed to get the hards wearing pretty evenly. So took a flyer and decided not to change them at the stop. Got confused with the stop and tried restarting the engine while refulling, which delayed me a bit. Came out with Lazlow a few secs behind somehow but he came straight past on his new tyres while i struggled at 3secs off my best times.

Lucked into a few positions as others seemed to have dodgy connections.

Hope you guys carry on, it will get lonely down this end of the grid!

I had a very enjoyable race after a long time away from the wheel. It was good to see drivers posting my sort of times pre-race, e.g. 1m.54s, especially as I initially saw times of 1m.50s  :o

Qualified in a good for me 12th and had an excellent first 15min tussle with spanner and GT where, in all fairness, I was holding you up, but it was still good fun trying to keep in front :). Spanner got past on the last turn after I overcooked the entry but I glanced GT as I rejoined and pranged the barriers. It did, however, put me behind MJ who gave me a good target to chase although I couldn't get past his fellow C6R until the pitstop.

In the end, I managed a pretty good 8th although I have to thank the god of disconnections and other hardware failures for my lofty position. Congrats to podiums - looking forward to the next race.