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Title: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: goldtop on August 23, 2010, 12:51:17 PM +0100
Just an idea at the moment, but I reckon there's some good racing to be had here and could perhaps fill a little gap depending on interest. Topic is locked for now, but please feel free to pm any views/thoughts.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: goldtop on August 30, 2010, 11:54:40 PM +0100
Thanks to all of you who took the trouble to vote. I know that Race 07 divides opinion here and with only 12 interested at this stage, my gut feeling is that there probably isn't enough of us to take this any further. With the poll closed this topic is now unlocked, so if anyone has any further thoughts please post them here.

GT.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 31, 2010, 12:19:25 AM +0100
I would disagree GT. For a first outing twelve seems a good number IMO. I'd say give it a go.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: Jeffrey on August 31, 2010, 12:59:54 AM +0100
I'm not a fan of the Radicals, the Caterhams are fun. However, the best cars in the Race series are the msucle cars from Race On, but I think hardly anyone has that game. Was only 8 pounds that game :)


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: Craske on August 31, 2010, 10:41:16 AM +0100
Radicals in Race07/GTR Evo are nuts I would deffo turn up for events.

Please don't go down the Touring Car road tho zzzzzzzzzz


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: goldtop on August 31, 2010, 11:26:46 AM +0100
My original idea was to have a short Wednesday night Race 07 series and that a fun event would be a good way to kick off interest. I was hoping for more numbers, but if you feel we have enough for now let's discuss the possibilities.

My thoughts were to offer something different to our current events and that the cats especially would fit that bill. I tested these against a GTR2 cats mod and after a bit of ffb tweaking I concluded that the Race 07 cats were nicer. The original Simbin Race 07 rads are ok, but in the course of my testing I discovered the RMi Radicals mod (for which I believe we already have permissions).

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=19184

This mod is basically a complete revamp of Simbin's original physics and is very good imho. If you haven't tried these you really ought to.



Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on August 31, 2010, 12:44:52 PM +0100
Well you had better start getting it sorted hadn't you  ;)


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: JPS on September 01, 2010, 07:06:38 PM +0100
I'll try this Rad Race 07 mod out GT worth a go :)


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: JPS on September 02, 2010, 11:42:51 AM +0100
I'll try this Rad Race 07 mod out GT worth a go :)

GT loaded this as described but can't see this anywhere in the menus, so unable to check it out :'(


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: TinMan on September 02, 2010, 11:47:51 AM +0100
It's not in the menu - they show up as an additional tick box option at the top of the relevant Radical pages within the game. IMHO they are an improvement over the SimBin Radicals.


TC


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 02, 2010, 01:38:02 PM +0100
Had my first Race 07 experience last night, taking the lowest powered Caterham 7 around Brands GP circuit. Very impressed especially as it automatically detected that I was using Track IR!

However when I went to race against AI driven 7's the sim became un-driveable. I guess  I'm going to have to tweak the video settings to get a better result. Overall though I likey  ;D

Oh, I did have to turn the FFB right down as it felt like I was trying to turn my desk over when it came to turning the wheel.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: Mike Miller on September 02, 2010, 01:54:14 PM +0100
I enjoy the cats and the american muscle cars.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: ginsters sponsored on September 02, 2010, 02:39:37 PM +0100
I always enjoyed taking part in Race races here and elsewhere. The Cats, more power the better, are are definitely my faves but I've not tried the Rad mod mentioned.

Would take part but Wednesday is MARA night :'( I guess no other night is likely? (Saturday is NAGP night ::)).

Build it and they will come. Best of luck Tudor.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: goldtop on September 02, 2010, 04:34:10 PM +0100
Well you had better start getting it sorted hadn't you  ;)

OK chaps. Seems like there might be enough interest to stage a short series.

I propose a fun event which will allow us all to familiarise ourselves with the sim and iron out any potential problems. Following this there will be a 5 race series featuring the Caterhams and original R07 tracks, details to be decided.

Would take part but Wednesday is MARA night :'( I guess no other night is likely? (Saturday is NAGP night ::)).


Wednesdays seemed the obvious choice as it wouldn't interfere with existing our events and avoids the traditional beer socialising evenings at the weekend. A real shame you can't make it though Ian.

I enjoy the cats and the american muscle cars.
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I'm not a fan of the Radicals, the Caterhams are fun. However, the best cars in the Race series are the msucle cars from Race On, but I think hardly anyone has that game. Was only 8 pounds that game :)

I've not tried the muscle cars, but I think less people are likely to have Race On and would therefore limit the turnout. Would be great to see you both in the Caterhams.

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Radicals in Race07/GTR Evo are nuts I would deffo turn up for events.


Depending on the success of this series, I hope to stage a Radicals series following on, probably using the RMi mod.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: Jeffrey on September 02, 2010, 04:59:50 PM +0100
I've not tried the muscle cars, but I think less people are likely to have Race On and would therefore limit the turnout. Would be great to see you both in the Caterhams.


No worries, I expect the same, too few people with Race On. I only have it for a few weeks as I was already planning on using it, or else I wouldn't have it as well.

I probably can't make wednesdaynights, as I will be in another league with Race On (WTCC) and GTR2 (GT500). Maybe I can squeeze in somewhere, quite interesting to see how the new Radicals are. The Caterhams are more fun with the most power, not sure how that will effect people joining or close racing.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: Craske on September 02, 2010, 05:26:08 PM +0100
I like both the radicals and the caterhams so I'll be up for what ever you decide.
But I have to ask... is there any way they could be ballanced to run together?  I'm happy to help with any testing ect and I'm fairly handy with my pc so could probably learn and help out with the ballancing as well....



Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: goldtop on September 02, 2010, 06:55:19 PM +0100
... is there any way they could be ballanced to run together? 

My plan was to choose the tighter/shorter club type tracks for the cats and give the rads more room on the faster tracks. I think keeping it simple at this stage will be the most likely way to attract drivers, but maybe this can be something for the future if it's popular.

For me the main idea behind resurrecting R07 was to provide a simple fun format for a night that we don't currently race here. With new versions of sims on the horizon (rF2 GTR3 etc), I don't really expect R07 to have much longevity here. What it might do is open up another nights racing and maybe even attract some new drivers which has got to be good for everyone.



Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: JPS on September 02, 2010, 07:01:57 PM +0100
It's not in the menu - they show up as an additional tick box option at the top of the relevant Radical pages within the game. IMHO they are an improvement over the SimBin Radicals.


TC

Not there either :'(


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: goldtop on September 02, 2010, 07:12:40 PM +0100
Mine are here...


C:>Program Files>Steam>steamapps>[username]>race 07>GameData>Teams

They should have their own seperate folders "RMi_RadicalSR3" and "RMi_RadicalSR4"


Incidently, the engine sound on the SR4 is weird, you might want to use the SR3 sound for both ;)


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 02, 2010, 07:34:11 PM +0100
Are you going to recreate a real Cat 7 series?


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: b_1_rd on September 02, 2010, 08:22:21 PM +0100
Wednesdays don't suit me ideally as I already do some races in GPL, but would consider alternate weeks perhaps, count me as an interested party :)


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: JPS on September 02, 2010, 08:31:59 PM +0100
Mine are here...


C:>Program Files>Steam>steamapps>[username]>race 07>GameData>Teams

They should have their own seperate folders "RMi_RadicalSR3" and "RMi_RadicalSR4"


Incidently, the engine sound on the SR4 is weird, you might want to use the SR3 sound for both ;)

thanks GT found the files where the files should be, will have a further look in game :)


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: b_1_rd on September 02, 2010, 08:44:19 PM +0100
Incidently, the engine sound on the SR4 is weird, you might want to use the SR3 sound for both ;)

Is that just a case of copying accross the .aud file and renaming it?

That SR4 sounds is 'weird'


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: goldtop on September 02, 2010, 08:49:45 PM +0100
Incidently, the engine sound on the SR4 is weird, you might want to use the SR3 sound for both ;)

Is that just a case of copying accross the .aud file and renaming it?

That SR4 sounds is 'weird'

Yes, copy the SR3 sound file and rename to SR4.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: b_1_rd on September 02, 2010, 08:57:59 PM +0100
great, thanks


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: b_1_rd on September 02, 2010, 09:56:07 PM +0100
As there's a lot of talk about Radicals, some may be interested in THIS (http://www.tillingmotorsport.com/index.html).

Simon Tilling drives frequently at Castle Combe, where I do some marshalling, and his site has some good information on the SR3.  Also, there are some great on-board videos.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: goldtop on September 02, 2010, 10:32:43 PM +0100
I saw these last year when I spent a very enjoyable day at the Combe  8)

Was invited to the UKSaabs day there next weekend to stretch the recently lengthened legs of my 9000, but I've bottled out ::) It's a quick track and I don't fancy rearranging the bodywork on my pride 'n' joy  :)


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: b_1_rd on September 02, 2010, 11:23:15 PM +0100
you don't HAVE to go fast  :laugh:

Too tempting though.  I was always tempted to take my bike there but couldn't stand the thought of trashing it in a moment of red mist!


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: picnic on September 03, 2010, 12:07:13 PM +0100
It's a quick track and I don't fancy rearranging the bodywork on my pride 'n' joy  :)

I made it to the corn field while spinning out in the wet a few years ago. So glad I didn't got the other way!

Bike racing at Combe tomorrow for me to go and watch :)


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: spanner on September 03, 2010, 01:10:13 PM +0100
cough:
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Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: goldtop on September 03, 2010, 01:57:28 PM +0100
You must be referring to this marvelous event which is taking place on Sunday evening  :)....

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8296#event2266

I'll try to make it if I'm back from Doni in time and if Mrs. Goldtop doesn't drag me down the pub.


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: Oilseal on September 03, 2010, 02:27:05 PM +0100
I'll turn up Goldtop. Good idea

Oilseal


Title: Re: Race 07 Participation Poll
Post by: b_1_rd on September 03, 2010, 03:50:29 PM +0100
Bike racing at Combe tomorrow for me to go and watch :)

I'll be there! Spectating this time, with camera in hand :)