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Practice 1: 19:20 (60 mins)
Race: 20:30 (18 laps ~40 Minutes)

There will not be a qualifying session for this race. Starting order is determined reversing the average finish position found in this  spreadsheet (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgyClStz4uopdFNjeEpuWjlFMHdBcHozaUtERTgwVWc&hl=en&output=html).
Please do not go out on track during the qualifying session. Your grid order will be set by the administrator manually.
New drivers to the series will start at the rear of the field sorted alphabetical descending (keeping the reverse theme here).

Cars allowed: White Corvette Z06 vs. Ferrari 275 GTB/C (not special)
Track: 1979 Watkins Glen (no inner loop) (GPC version) (download (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_watkinsgpc))
Time of Day Setting: 12:00
Weather: Dry
Start: Standing

Tyre wear: 1X
Fuel consumption: 1X
Pit-stops: none required

Server: UKPnG
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Championship standings (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=260&theme=34)

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Mike, are you aware of the "difficulties" we had with the T2/3 chicane when we ran this track 10 months back?

(cars being launched over the barrier :o)

I'm probably mistaken but wasn't there also a small patch of track on the last turn (just before the pit entry) that had a "hole" in it, eg if you hit this part of track it span you?

I thought that was the old GTL one :-\ :laugh:

No, no,no,no,no  ::)

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6861.msg121532#msg121532

Ah yes, I remember now:

ps, by pit entry I kind of meant the inside of the final turn, safety could be found with a slower wider line

I'm not familiar with any of the problems mentioned. I've done numerous races and countless laps of testing here. It is one of my favorite test tracks. I'll intentionally poke my car around in unfamiliar places in the areas of concern to see if I can generate some odd behavior. If the problems persist, we can potentially use another version of the track. I'll have to track that version down.

Hi guys!

I'm now in the server, and seems that the fuel consumption is setted x2, and I don't know if even the tyre wear is set on x2.
Can you check it please? Thanks in advance :)

Cu!

Apologies Manteos. Tyre wear was on normal but fuel was still set at x2 from the Mid Ohio race. Both are now at normal.

Thanks for checking Goldtop :)

Just been on the server and it seems like a good track that is totally ruined by that stooooopid chicane!  ::)

It isn't the Watkins Glen that I know and love from GLP but it will do.

What I can't quite come to terms with is the fact that I was doing what I thought were quite tidy laps, with the best being a 2:14.600.

A good ten seconds off the pace. >:(

Perhaps someone would like to post one of these 2:04 laps that are listed on the race header so that I can see where the short cut is.

just ran my first laps here. 2:13.8 so far for me. Nice track this with great flow but certain corners always ready to suck you in too fast then you get bitten hard with hardly any run off areas. I will be in a bella macchina rosso  8)

I hate that chicane too!!! Til now I've seen only a 2.10.8 by Lele, and it's seems enough to me... I'm stucked at 2.13.1 at the moment with race fuel... that means more than 2 seconds off the pace...

Let's see what happens during the race...

It's surely impossible to repeat an L88 time with the Z06, so I can confirm you're only 3.8 seconds off the pace Clive til now... but I'm sure you will go down sensibly ;) Good time for Mark with the 275 GTB/C... I'll give a try to the "Rossa" :)

Cu :)

2:12.350 in the vette.

Closing in.  :scooter:

Damn good fun except that chicane.

But I think that is my lot.

took another half a sec off to put me in low 2:13's now  :)  2:13's race pace with 40mins fuel too.

Vettes in Italian hands are doing 2:11 and 2:12's though  :'(  Will try a vette out at some point now ive got my lines right.

I just returned from San Francisco and popped into this thread. I wasn't intending on running the chicane (no inner loop). I should have been more clear. The chicane is also known as the inner loop for this track. Since it looks like all have been practicing that way we'll leave it in. Back in the day, when these cars thundered around the track, the chicane didn't exist. When you get a moment, you should try the version offline that doesn't use the chicane. Braking for the banked right at the end of the long straight is a hoot in these cars.

For my money, don't worry about changing the circuit if it gets rid of that poxy chicane.  We shouldn't use tracks with joke features like that one.  I have never raced on it but cannot imagine how you are supposed to follow another car when you can't see where the deadly concrete has got to!

Who ever put the chicane in in real life should be strung up.  IMHO   ;D

Can you run the proper track tonight?

i'd second taking that chicane out of the equation. Not on the grounds of making it easier, but in previous races we have had with it, the silly un-natural effect those kerbs have on these cars causes someone to lose it in a pack and creates chaos with multiple cars KO'd. So not worth using it really, am sure we would all rather blast up and through that banked off camber corner  :)
My one concern is that it may play even more into the hands of the vettes which already seem way quicker than the lovely fezza around here  :(

the password says it won't be released until 8:30 ?

Normal practise password purds. The race is 2moz. ;)

haha sorry

i just typed in usual praccy passy and got kicked, forgot it tells you bad password.

Mike, have you tried this track?
This GPC version only has the one circuit & the chicane is at T2 (the esses) not at the top of the hill after the long straight.

This GPC version just doesn't really work with mixed car racing. For example, the Vette (which is already the faster car) can just ride the chicane (making it the easier car too), while the F275 has to be ultra careful & still might lose it into the barrier ::)
So all the Vette drivers will come steaming through while the F275's are lifting/braking & BANG! Race over.

It's only the Italian Vettes that take the chicane like that.   >:(

If I touch the dead zebra on the right I'm over the fence!

Had a little go tonight, best i can do with 20L on board is 1:10.3   and 1:11s for the race....Oh and that is with a do or die approach to the chicane, wouldn't want to be doing that in the race.

Just tried the Vette for the first time, great car, but...... best I can manage in it is 2.15 so I guess I will be running around at the back on my own. Still just driving it puts a smile on your face after those horrible Porsches with weird steering & brakes! ;D Sorry just couldn't face driving those in the last 2 races, no fun at all.

Well it looks like I've failed the group again. I prepared these races during the preseason testing writing notes along the way (track, cars, lap times, etc...). I wrote GPC in my notes, but tested the Dutch Devil track. In fact, I do a lot of car testing using the Dutch Devil version of Watkins Glen, but never really looked carefully at the fact that it was the Dutch Devil version vs. the GPC version. 

My testing with the Dutch Devil version produced the following results on full tanks
2:10.2 in the Ferrari 275 GTB
2:11.1 in the George Robertson Z06

I now understand Legzy's concern regarding cars launching over the chicane. I can see how that might be possible. While I do prefer the version without the chicane, I hesitate to change to the Dutch Devil version so close to race time. So many people practiced with the GPC version. The Dutch Devil version is easier to drive and isn't much different. Should we change to the Dutch Devil version this late in the game? Normally I wouldn't even consider it, but based on the problems from this track in the past, I'm thinking it may be a wise idea.

I'll be around to mangle the grid tonight.

LOL  Even Legzy used to give us more than two hours notice.

Think you will have to leave it as it is Mike.  There could be people who do not read this forum on a regular basis and they will turn up with seconds to spare and the wrong track loaded if you try to change it.

Is there a prize for the first bloke to clear the Armco?

See you later.

Yes. You are right Clive. It is too late now.

Yes. You get to choose the car/track combo for an event in the mid-season break.

thats got to be my shortest P&G race ever  >:(

got a good start off the line, got down the inside at T1, albeit having to lean on someone beside me as it understeered, but then got walloped from behind which span me round facing the entire approaching grid pack. Got hit about 7 times by cars with no way of avoiding me and was left with huge body damage and 95% suspension fubar'd. Crabbed up the road in last place to the zebra chicane where it promptly spat my ruined car into the armco. End of.

What a waste of a couple of hours practise this week. ::)

Excellent track choice Mike. When I said 'stupid track' during practice session, it was because I left my garage, through the wrong side of pit lane and got a DQ. It was nothing to do with the track layout.
As I replyed to you, I had race here before and liked it very much. Thank you for your effort Mike.

Cheers

Apologies to the Corvette in front of me which I touched at the start. Really must learn that old circuit the green light is still operative...  :wetfish:

Thanks for JPV and Tibernius for the fights, after the s/g I was afraid it was going to be a lonely race.. but it wasn't  :)

Oh, and sorry for the flashing lights in the pits.. won't happen again  :-[

Last but not least, thanks Mike for organizing this series.  :thumbup1:

It really felt nice to race again. It was great to be out there dicing with everyone.

The start was action packed. The lights were confusing with the 4 red lights out/pause/then green. I did a practice start and noticed the green so I waited. Somebody in a red fezza was facing the wrong direction between the exit of turn 1 and the chicane. I juked left to try to avoid, but I must have driven right into the path of a car traveling much quicker from behind. I launched up into the air as the car from behind drove under me.

At this point I think I was 2nd from last and put my head down to claw my way through the field in the first few laps. I managed to get up to Marco, Ade and Guieseppie. The 4 of us had a tremendous battle the remainder of the race.

Thanks for putting up with me, my absence and disorganization this season. It is very challenging not being in such a different time zone. Work got in the way much more this season than it did last season.

congratulations to Daniele for drivers championship and the KC for the team championship!!!