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Title: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Legzy on September 05, 2010, 10:11:57 PM +0100
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Practice 1: 20:00 (20 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (60 minutes) - note: no warm up!

Cars allowed: Any GT1 from the v2.13.0.0 car pack (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54519#post_physics)

Track: Virtua_LM LeMans 1979 (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3356.msg54521#post_lmsarthe77)  - WARNING - Avoid maxing out sitxth gear to survive to the finish.
Race Start Time: 14:00

Weather: Changeable. (Similer to real-world conditions)
Virtual Race Weather Forecast (for rough guidance only) To be Published ~19:30pm on Race night:
FORECAST is
Weather: Dry with cloud
Ambient: 13
Track: 14.15
Early Conditions:  Dry
Mid Race Conditions:  Overcast
Late Race Conditions:  Overcast


Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: x2
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.


Server: UKGTR2 Enduro
Password: see above (#post_event_password)


Notes:
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(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mark J on September 20, 2010, 06:43:04 PM +0100
oooh...Le Mans...who's the daddy  :jumpjoy:

will be jumping on the server around 7'ish if anyone cares to join me for some early praccy  :)  (assuming the server has it on that is)?

Should have had some special rules for this epic event, like double points, drivers have to complete xx% of race for points etc to promote a decent grid attendance, like they do in the real world of racing for these show case rounds of a championship.

Hope we have a great turn out and classic race. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: spanner on September 20, 2010, 06:49:38 PM +0100
Err.. you do have the GTL race tonight. That will knock the server out for a while.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mark J on September 20, 2010, 07:12:16 PM +0100
Err.. you do have the GTL race tonight. That will knock the server out for a while.

ah didnt realise that old arcadey relic  ;) had moved to a monday..oh well offline it is then  :(


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Legzy on September 20, 2010, 09:47:35 PM +0100
This race is actually going to require some self discipline for some/all of the drivers.

This track is the old 'no-chicanes' extra-very-very even longer straight. You can muller your engine if you choose to sit in the red in sixth gear. You'll probably get away with it the first time, maybe even the second, but you've all been warned.

Don't come crying to me (MJ ;)) when your race ends early due to steam & oil coming out your bonet! :P



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mark J on September 20, 2010, 09:55:18 PM +0100
well, you boys best get your racing boots on and get some laps in here !  Its a tricky track to get the setup spot on with its mixture of extreme low downforce areas for the long straights followed by some definite downforce needed for the back section and chicanes.

I tried both a low d/f 1-4 wing and a medium d/f 2-6 combo and set exactly the same lap times  :P what i gained on the straights i lost in the curves with the 1-4 and vice-versa for the 2-6.
I think we will all need to turn the revs down a notch or two if you want your engines to last. Even with the whick turned down a couple of notches i was still suffering upto 10% engine damage over 4 laps at full throttle. Top speed 191mph in the C6  :o (tho Motec said it was 194mph!)

First benchmark for you lot to aim at = 3:33.083 so far. I saw an AI 550 do a 3:30 but other GT1 cars were around late 32/33 mark.

Please report times and top speeds back on here as its hard to know where you stand for a track that we dont use enough in my opinion. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Truetom on September 21, 2010, 06:06:15 PM +0100
Tried 2-6 and longest 6th, 1 bar red at 309 km/h, 1% engine health cost / lap, soft/hard combo. Would like a longer 6th, though... :-\ 3:35 and I'm never good on this track. Keep practicing, MJ. ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: spanner on September 21, 2010, 07:16:17 PM +0100
Sounds like its not about speed but making the engine last.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Legzy on September 21, 2010, 07:46:43 PM +0100
Sounds like its not about speed but making the engine last.
Not pushing the limit is not going to help you win either :devil:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mark J on September 21, 2010, 08:04:08 PM +0100
Tried 2-6 and longest 6th, 1 bar red at 309 km/h, 1% engine health cost / lap, soft/hard combo. Would like a longer 6th, though... :-\ 3:35 and I'm never good on this track. Keep practicing, MJ. ;)

why?..i am already 2 secs a lap quicker than you here  :-*  but will be putting more laps in for sure.  :)

Yes, not sure if its a problem with the 'tweaked' GT1 cars but would have thought a 6th gear long enough to not redline should have been achievable?? There is something wrong with the rev range for the C6 and the F430GTC actually as both of them have revs set much higher than they are supposed to have for their ideal bhp/torque range according to the showroom stats. Tried the C5 out here though and it has same gear range so still redlines. I did wonder if we are supposed to add enough wing to stop it redlining  :-\ but that would surely go against the racing grain.

just pumped in some 1:35 race laps with full fuel and meds. Still testing.  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 21, 2010, 11:39:45 PM +0100

This track is the old 'no-chicanes' extra-very-very even longer straight.


Not the 1979-85 version then? Is it Philrobs 1970 version?

EDIT: Please ignore, brain not engaged last night  ::)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mcfids on September 22, 2010, 08:46:53 AM +0100
I had a quick half hour last night on this track and managed a 3.35s in race trim with full tanks, although I didn't get in a totally clean lap so there may be more. My C6 had the same engine wear rate and speed as yours, MJ.

Just a thought about the start procedure; are we doing a formation lap as normal? I'm guessing that would probably take about 5 mins, which would eat into 8% of the race!

Really looking forward to this as my last race here, in the PnG 3hour special we ran last xmas, was probably my favourite ever online race. This place just oozes atmosphere. Any chance of more races like that?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Truetom on September 22, 2010, 09:11:05 AM +0100
Oozes atmosphere? Ok, I guess this is the positive side. Negative? The track is plain and boring and stands out of otherwise excellent (GT1) track choices in this season. Mexico 1988, Istanbul, Brno, Mugello, Dijon Prenois, Sepang, Montreal, Oschersleben, ... Any of them would fit better in here. IMHO this track brings more atmosphere in PnG.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mark J on September 22, 2010, 06:05:56 PM +0100
Oozes atmosphere? Ok, I guess this is the positive side. Negative? The track is plain and boring and stands out of otherwise excellent (GT1) track choices in this season. Mexico 1988, Istanbul, Brno, Mugello, Dijon Prenois, Sepang, Montreal, Oschersleben, ... Any of them would fit better in here. IMHO this track brings more atmosphere in PnG.

are you mental?  ::)  this place is the schnizzle ! ...and you rate Brno higher?!!... :laugh: 

Granted the Mulsanne straight can get a 'tad' tedious (if you find motoring a 190mph GT1 whilst drafting or being drafted boring that is...we were 3 abreast in a p&G race!) but the rest of the track and the lap as a whole is a pure racing challenge. Plus it oozes atmos  8)  Imagine using that tasty GTweb car set here with the LMP classes...phewee.

still not sure what the ideal wing combo is here. My fastest lap times are set with 2-6 and yet the 1-4 combo 'seems' quicker though the times disprove it, plus i have more 'moments' with the 1-4 option. What are you other guys using so far? (all in the interests of close racing you understand  ;) )


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Truetom on September 22, 2010, 06:34:50 PM +0100
 :yawn: :sleep1:

 :-*


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Busi on September 22, 2010, 06:57:42 PM +0100
You cannot see a thing in the straights under the shadows! :o

Great track though, looking forward to the race :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: H@L9000 on September 22, 2010, 10:08:15 PM +0100
What are you other guys using so far? (all in the interests of close racing you understand  ;) )

2 - 4 but, I may need more wing as I keep loosing it on a couple of corners.

I love the track. I prefer the modern version in terms of layout but, this version looks allot better. The modern version of Le Mans is definitely one of my top 3 of all time. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mark J on September 22, 2010, 10:22:17 PM +0100
What are you other guys using so far? (all in the interests of close racing you understand  ;) )
I love the track. I prefer the modern version in terms of layout but, this version looks allot better. The modern version of Le Mans is definitely one of my top 3 of all time. :)

Finally some fellow racer words of wisdom !  :thumbup1:

I do wonder if we might have been better off with the chicaned mulsanne just to force the cars from running top redline screaming revs. Im not even sure how they are able to do that...wheres the rev limiter gone? Is it missing because DG removed the reliability factor from the srouk car set? Really we should be seeing detonated engines unless rev range turned down as they would for real...that or longer gearing than is available  ;)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Clive Loynes on September 24, 2010, 07:57:41 PM +0100
.................. IMHO this track brings more atmosphere in PnG.

And the cars can be geared for the straight.   ;D

I thought that this sounded interesting until I read all your comments about the engines.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: goldtop on September 24, 2010, 10:12:21 PM +0100
The Lambo seems ok, top speed 191mph and revs left over for drafting with no ott health loss. I'm at around 3:37 with race fuel and wing at 2-5.

Must admit I like all LM versions  :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mark J on September 25, 2010, 01:33:59 PM +0100
The Lambo seems ok, top speed 191mph and revs left over for drafting with no ott health loss. I'm at around 3:37 with race fuel and wing at 2-5.


crikey...drafting, thats a good point. If the engines already screaming its nuts off at top of rev range whats gonna happen if you pick up a tow? Im not sure of the answer to this rev range phenomena here at the Mulsanne straight, should we be running much lower rev limit? but dont see how that will help, it will just reduce available power without reducing the red line peak out.  :-\
I best try some drafting moves on AI cars and see what happens  :-X


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: spanner on September 25, 2010, 02:42:43 PM +0100
I've not had time to do any practise and with it being lemans you cant just get in some practise, you need to dedicate hours! so not sure about doing this. Plus i dont really agree with this combo either, If your going to run it, run the 'proper' config of it. I dont care how nice it is, running modern cars on a track 30 years old...hmm. Though our modern version is definately showing its age.



Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: H@L9000 on September 25, 2010, 04:20:13 PM +0100
I've not had time to do any practise and with it being lemans you cant just get in some practise, you need to dedicate hours! so not sure about doing this. Plus i dont really agree with this combo either, If your going to run it, run the 'proper' config of it. I dont care how nice it is, running modern cars on a track 30 years old...hmm. Though our modern version is definately showing its age.

Its actually going to be good fun I think. It does work with these cars. Just get your wing as low as you dare go, 2 - 6 would be a good start and then set 6th gear to match the revs where you want them on the straight.

Limit the revs a bit in setup and remember to allow for slipstreaming. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mark J on September 25, 2010, 06:44:08 PM +0100
I've not had time to do any practise and with it being lemans you cant just get in some practise, you need to dedicate hours! so not sure about doing this. Plus i dont really agree with this combo either, If your going to run it, run the 'proper' config of it. I dont care how nice it is, running modern cars on a track 30 years old...hmm. Though our modern version is definately showing its age.

Grumpy sod, just get some laps in, the cars feel fantastic here and you certainly dont feel that your on an old track, its modern enough for GT1 !
It also doesnt feel such a long lap in these fast beasties. Aston martin at Le Mans...what more do you need ?!  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: spanner on September 25, 2010, 07:08:30 PM +0100
Lol, some pep talk!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: spanner on September 26, 2010, 05:11:55 PM +0100
Is it going to be a rolling start?  Be sure to wake me up at the end of it!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Truetom on September 26, 2010, 05:31:28 PM +0100
Hell yea, let's make a standing start. :yes:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: goldtop on September 26, 2010, 06:19:40 PM +0100
IIRC the last time we raced here we held position until the exit of Tertre Rouge. Might be a good compromise?


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mark J on September 26, 2010, 06:21:28 PM +0100
I'd say standing as well to avoid the potential 5minute formation lap ! but then you also have to realise we would all be on very cold tyres ! Or we could hold formation around to tetre (start of mulsanne) as GT suggests, then gun it !
 
I think i may have to switch GT cars for this event and i dont want a penalty for doing so as its not through choice and now its very last minute! The Vettes are obviously badly geared wrong and its impossible to run the Mulsanne and follow on straight without being maxed out in the red line zone. I was 11mph slower down the straights than two other GT cars online this afternoon and AI cars offline, leaving me for dead on the mulsanne and costing 1-2secs in laptime. No matter how low i go with the wings the car (just tried a 1-4) will not do more than 185 with race fuel. So if alright with the powers that be i will take a car swap.  I tried the stock C5 also to see if it was okay but suffers same gearing problem.


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Busi on September 26, 2010, 07:21:16 PM +0100
Standing start pleaaaase ;D


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: spanner on September 26, 2010, 07:29:46 PM +0100
Remember tho MJ that when the fuel burns off we will all be on rev limiter, going with the corvette might be a safe option!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: picnic on September 26, 2010, 07:34:08 PM +0100
FORECAST is

Weather: Dry with cloud
Ambient: 13
Track: 14.15
Early Conditions:  Dry
Mid Race Conditions:  Overcast
Late Race Conditions:  Overcast


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: H@L9000 on September 26, 2010, 10:14:11 PM +0100
Nice race. API was way to fast for me. :D

I messed up in the pit. Sorry TT and anyone else that I may have inconvenienced. :-\

I was down to 58% engine health by the end. :o
I knew the Mazza could take it. Good old Italian engineering. :whistling:

Well done all, tough track. :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Legzy on September 26, 2010, 10:37:18 PM +0100
Really enjoyed that. Was a nice challenge, not just driving with foot to the floor, having to keep half an eye on the engine health particularly in the 2nd half. I finished with about 68% health remaining :sweatdrop: :laugh:

MJ pulled off a move on me tonight, that would go down in legend for me :notworthy:... if he'd not missed his braking for the almost immediately next corner ::). It remains a stunning move, but I really was gutted for him after that as he headed for chicken wire & I regained 3rd position... that MJ was more than worthy of.

Chuffed though to get what is surely only my 1st or 2nd podium in a GT1 ;D

p.s. Nice Oldie Team result again (P1 & P3 :-*) despite Lazlow being AWOL


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mark J on September 26, 2010, 10:39:00 PM +0100
Great but ultimately frustrating race for me on this superb track.

Race of two halves, first half of race spent battling H@L and then Busi for 2nd place...which amazingly i managed to win on both occasions  :o Some splendid drafting action taking place down the mighty mulsanne. Unfortunately i kept picking up such a huge tow from those two that i damaged the engine it would seem for later in race  :( Even picking up an extra 8mph i couldnt get past either down the main straight so gawd knows how low their wing settings were  ???
I was on 2-5 wing, which helped me greatly in sector 3 but hindered against those two missiles on the straights.

All good until i pitted on lap 10? of 17 for my stop. Pitstop went smoothly but i stupidly forgot to check my tyre wear and realised after i could have just fuelled and saved time...like you others no doubt did  ::) so several cars closed the gap on me.

This meant Legzy followed me out the pits despite me having a 12 sec? lead over him before the stops  :taz: we enjoyed a good duel around the lap on cold tyres but i then did a 'Hamilton' and forgot to use my brain, relying on racing adrenalin and promptly outbraked myself at Arnage corner, losing 11 seconds and 2 places  :wetfish:  :'(
That was my podium chance blown as no way i would catch them with 6 laps to go unless they fell off. Soon noticed my engine was now nerfed too and could only get upto 188mph down the straight, about 8 less than i was getting early on and so started dropping 2+ secs a lap, but brought it home in a safe 4th place cursing myself for not using more patience on cold tyres earlier.

All great stuff though, felt like an endurance with engine wear, threatening rain clouds and drafting etc  8)

Congrats to podium people,  8) especially API who has elevated himself into alien status lately  :alien:


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Truetom on September 27, 2010, 07:13:12 AM +0100
Pah, I think this is the first time I actualy finished this race. ::)  ...and looking forward to fun race. ;) 


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Mcfids on September 27, 2010, 08:55:27 AM +0100
I was a bit gutted to say the least after knackering the steering at the third corner, especially after a pretty decent 3.32.1s in qualifying in the C6R. :(

I was following legzy who went slightly wide at T3 and I had to deviate slightly, the backend got away on the kerbs and I ploughed into the barrier. Sod's law, had done loads of laps and never the slightest whiff of ever falling off the road here.  Apologies for my wayward driving in the aftermath - the car was crabbing like mad.

Amusing formation lap - there are not many tracks where you can text chat at 150mph :)

It's still a great track though, with only the dull Mulsanne straight as a negative that could be fixed using the chicane version. What we need is a full 3 hour endurance special here. hint, hint...

Congrats to the podiums!


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: goldtop on September 27, 2010, 09:05:31 AM +0100
Always enjoy racing here. Compromised my speed through the corners for straight line grunt with a 1-4 wing setup. Engine health was good in the Lambo so no worries there.

Had a good few opening laps and pulled a gap on Legzy until I put a wheel on the grass through the curves which spun me round. The pitstop was my usual nightmare and I exited way down road. Soon caught Pete in the vette as he made a mistake and we had a good fight. He was quicker through the curves, while I was able to use my speed down the mulsanne. Unfortunately it all ended in tears as Pete got a wheel on the grass and couldn't stop going through Esses which put me in the barrier and bent my lovely shiny Lambo :'(

Still, good fun and great pace up front. Congrats pody  8)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Busi on September 27, 2010, 11:06:09 AM +0100
It was a great race while it lasted for me :P

Started last and had some enjoyable first laps putting my Lister at 325 kph in the straight under the toe of some drivers. Some of them could not overtake me cause when they came out of my slipstream I was again faster than them LOL (I was on 1-2 wings).

I was just behind MJ (2nd and 3rd) before the pitstops, and we were 30ish seconds behind API. I pitted for fuel only and didn't change tyres. I assume API did, cause I rejoined 2 seconds behind him :o but I was very angry cause I had lost at least 1 second in the pits forgetting to turn on the engine on, so with that second I could have had API's toe in the backstraight. But instead I was all the time between 1.5 and 2 seconds behind and couldn't catch his toe. That made me push very hard but I ended crashing in the slow left hander after Indianapolis.

Puncture, back to the pits, rejoined behind MJ I think but crashed again. Being very frustrated, I decided that it wasn't fun anymore for me lol so retired with 3 laps to go I think.

Grats API nice pace :)


Title: Re: UKGTR Season 13 - Upper Endurance (GT1) - Le Mans (Sarthe (1979-85)) - Sep 26
Post by: Clive Loynes on September 27, 2010, 04:21:30 PM +0100
Glad you all had fun.

After three screen freezes in four outings I decided that I wasn't going in to bat on this one.  I do like Le Mans but it has given me similar problems in PnG.  Probably just as well as I was way off the pace at 3:39.

Was only seeing 313kph on the straight.