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Title: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: popabawa on September 09, 2010, 09:01:12 AM +0100
Car: Star Mazda
Track: Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
Practice: approx. 18:00 for 150 mins
Qualifying: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race: 29 laps (approx. 40 minutes)

Start: Standard iRacing double file rolling start
Flags: local only

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Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: popabawa on September 11, 2010, 02:56:13 PM +0100
I've knocked about 0.5s off my PB and put in a 1:21.4 this afternoon 8)

I'm finally getting to the point now where the manual transmission is requiring less concentration too.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: purdie on September 11, 2010, 07:00:04 PM +0100
I've knocked about 0.5s off my PB and put in a 1:21.4 this afternoon 8)

very nice  ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: IanBassi on September 11, 2010, 09:57:19 PM +0100
I hate this track.

Current PB is 1.24.8 with a in theory fastest lap of 1.23.2, although what my race pace will be I have no idea.  I always feel like I am driving over the limit at this track :(

Ian


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: popabawa on September 13, 2010, 06:29:23 PM +0100
Server's up!  8)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Kerr on September 13, 2010, 11:09:53 PM +0100
Had some spare time tonight so joined in for a little practice.

Messed around with setups and trying to find the limits again. Thought I was doing well and when I put the effort into it, with low fuel I could run consistent mid 1.19s.

Heavier fuel load did not seem to make a massive amount of difference. Maybe 0.3sec once car is up to speed.

I then did a qualifying session for the Intel series that went a little wrong. 1.19.6 and I was surprised how far I'm behind drivers I usually match and drivers who normally are a bit off me.

Lots like I'm well off the game even though I'm back up near my old PB.

Just watched the Intel race and John Prather, Brad Davies and Richard Towler were racing. Towler was damaged from an earlier bump, but the other two were usually anything from mid 19s to 20s, so maybe my race pace is not too bad. Their race was only 20 laps which is not that much more fuel than qualifying.

However, not sure I'm going to make tomorrow night.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: popabawa on September 14, 2010, 08:43:49 AM +0100
I shaved a few more 10ths off my PB and got down to 1:21.1 after a frustrating start to the session. Let's hope I can get somewhere near that tonight.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: purdie on September 14, 2010, 06:14:36 PM +0100
well that was the most demoralising post I have ever read Brian hehe  ;)

20.8 is my best so far with consistent 21s  ::)  :P


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Mike Wrightson on September 14, 2010, 06:19:46 PM +0100
Same here Andy, it's a struggle on this track :(


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: popabawa on September 14, 2010, 06:20:28 PM +0100
Race length confirmed at 29 laps.

Server's up!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Kerr on September 14, 2010, 08:34:29 PM +0100
Sorry guys I got dragged out to the pub for the football.

After watching the first half I'd be better off racing. On saying that the beer is good.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: popabawa on September 14, 2010, 08:50:06 PM +0100
I am SO sorry.

Obviously I set a standing start instead of rolling, what an idiot.

Sorry for wasting everyone's time  :-[ :'(


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 14, 2010, 08:53:04 PM +0100
Qualified great with a new PB with 5 seconds left to put me 4th on the grid.

However, I wasn't expecting a standing start so hadn't practiced one. Put full revs on and expected to just slam it into 1st gear to go. Of course it wouldn't go into gear when the lights went green, so then you have to wait for revs to drop, by which time already been piled into cause I was stationary.

Sorry, guess my fault as I was the numpty not getting the car moving and a total waste of an evening for half the field.

Not done a standing start with the new clutch model so clearly didn't know how to do it, but going to blame Pops for not selecting the right start type. :P



Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 14, 2010, 08:53:34 PM +0100
Steering bent, race over. >:(


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Burtoner on September 14, 2010, 08:55:50 PM +0100
well that was great, it said double file restarts...


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Blunder on September 14, 2010, 08:56:46 PM +0100
Yep Simon, took us all by suprise but I selected first and then floored it!
I clipped you and it was all over after that!

Rats!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: IanBassi on September 14, 2010, 08:58:16 PM +0100
Managed to avoid all the carnage by stopping before I got there,  saw a gap and tried to go through it for Rob to try and get moving again, and touch me.   

A shame, but one of those things.

Roll on a fortnights time, and hopefully I will complete more than a lap and a half.

Ian


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Mike Wrightson on September 14, 2010, 09:40:09 PM +0100
Ooooer!

Set a new PB for 3rd on the grid, then waited patiently for the rolling start.

Ahem

When the lights appeared I popped it into 1st, then noted the lack of a pace car and everyone revving up  :o I was completely unprepared and Andy shot past me as I just floored it and set off.  Got past Andy when he got loose going down the hill, then chased Brendan as hard as I could, finally got an opening when he made a mess of the corkscrew and only completed the pass when we got to T1.

Then it was pushing hard to keep Brendan out of striking range, but couldn't close up to Darren, who stayed 6 seconds up the road.

Thank god I got it off the line  :-\


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Legzy on September 14, 2010, 09:43:04 PM +0100
The pile up worked well for me ;) as I finished 7th.

I really like driving the Mazda (& Radical) but I'm just not getting any racing each week. It was 28 out of 29 laps on my own. Obviously the crash impacted that, but even in normal conditions I'm sure it would have been lonely :'(

Anyway, I'm off to get the violin... ;D


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: purdie on September 14, 2010, 09:48:59 PM +0100
was just about to ask about the start on the grid and Pops said standing.... almost rear ended Mike as he was bogged down but squeezed past by the wall ...  :o  :)

jumped from 5th to 3rd by the 1st corner... then the natural order resumed and I dropped back to 5th after a couple of laps. Was in no-mans land for a while as half the grid missing left a large hole in the field for me to secure 5th by just staying on the track till the end :P

had a few minor skirmishes off track but happy to finish  :) caught James when he had an off and even regained 4th for a short time before running wide and giving back the place  ::) Trying to apply pressure was hard as he was clearly quicker  ;) good fun

Grats Darren  8)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Brendan on September 14, 2010, 09:49:06 PM +0100
Happy to qual 2nd on the grid and used the clutch to get off the line reasonably cleanly.

Did my usual trick, though, of taking too long to settle into a rhythm and as Mike says I made a cock-up of the corkscrew and was then off line for the rest of the lap trying to hold him off.  Mike got a good run out of the final turn and outdragged me down into T1.

Spent the rest of the race trying to to reel him back in but the gap remained pretty constant and I think the only places I was marginally quicker was through turn 7 and out of the final turn, but I never got close enough to try a move.

Mike, you were mighty through the left hander after the corkscrew  :o

Anyway, grats to Darren on another faultless drive and also Mike for a great performance, too.

Brendan


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Darren Seal on September 14, 2010, 10:45:34 PM +0100
Don't blame yourself Pops..  Easy mistake...  Next time we'll be better prepared...

I know it's too late now, but I guess the rules should be amended to include situations like this.  Next time if there is no Pace car we should do a SRouk rolling start instead.


Heading into qualifying I didn't know what to expect.  I had a feeling the likes of Brendan, Mike, Shark and Gizmo were sandbagging in practise on racing fuel.  I was expecting them to magically put together sub 1:20 laps.  With that in mind I pushed really hard and at one point I was on for a 1:19.8, only to drop a wheel in the dirt with a couple of corners to go.  Luckily a 1:20.3 proved to be enough.

On the grid, I noticed there wasn't a pace car.  Panic set in.  I'm not normally on Pole so I wasn't sure what to do.  Once I saw the words "standing start" from Pops I regained some focus and waited for the lights.

The lights turned green and I floored it.  The car crabbed sideways off the line, but it wasn't a bad start...  Looking back in my mirrors I could see the chaos.  I was all over the place on the opening lap due to me being easily distracted; reading all the retirements (including several of my teammates). :(  However, I was soon forced to focus once Brendan and Mike closed in.

Luckily, they had their hands full fighting each other, so I was able to pull out a 5 seconds lead.  It was a tough race; not knowing if I should just do enough to maintain the lead or push and risk falling off.  In the end I took the safest option, but Mike and Brendan kept me honest with some fast laps of their own.

Overall I'm happy with 1st, but knowing the problems of others at the start, and the fact that faster drivers like Brian and Paul were missing, my victory doesn't feel as good as it should do.  :-\

Congrats to Mike and Brendan for their podium places.  Great racing guys, you never gave me any time to rest.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Brendan on September 14, 2010, 11:29:30 PM +0100

Overall I'm happy with 1st, but knowing the problems of others at the start, and the fact that faster drivers like Brian and Paul were missing, my victory doesn't feel as good as it should do.  :-\


To use a football cliche, you can only beat what's infront (or in your case, behind) you.

Don't be so hard on yourself, you were the best on the day, revel in it.  ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Mike Wrightson on September 15, 2010, 12:38:30 AM +0100

Overall I'm happy with 1st, but knowing the problems of others at the start, and the fact that faster drivers like Brian and Paul were missing, my victory doesn't feel as good as it should do.  :-\


To use a football cliche, you can only beat what's infront (or in your case, behind) you.

Don't be so hard on yourself, you were the best on the day, revel in it.  ;)
^^ What he said :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Darren Seal on September 15, 2010, 01:15:19 AM +0100
Yeah sorry guys, you are right!  Any Srouk victory is an big achievement, especially for me. :)

I was just feeling sorry for my teammates..  I'm over it now. so...  :jumpjoy:



Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 15, 2010, 07:23:13 AM +0100
I had a feeling the likes of Brendan, Mike, Shark and Gizmo were sandbagging in practise on racing fuel.

I think they were except for me. I was already peddling as fast as I could.

Still got zero feel for this car. Once the slip angle gets more than a couple degrees over the limit it's going in the wall with no chance of saving it, so I never feel I can push at all the way I would in the proper cars.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Truetom on September 15, 2010, 08:10:08 AM +0100
Well... we should all be aware of the realistic chance that someone can't move the car on start - it happens a lot of times in real races as well. :) Seems like drivers there mostly avoid the stationary car / are prepared for this kind of event. We were not. ;) For myself I must say I did see a comotion in front but the gap was there and I went for it (the big car directly behind me helped me in this decision as well ;D ). Of course, by the time I got there the gap was gone, I crashed, the shape of the car was close to 8 and I quit.

I don't think we can blame Pops all that much and excuses about not training for a standing start seem a bit ... well, less realistic than manual clutch. ;) 

Of all iCars I enjoy Mazda most and I'm sad my race ended this way as I felt I can drive this car on this track. Well done Darren and thanks for a great setup. 8)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 15, 2010, 08:20:23 AM +0100
I had a feeling the likes of Brendan, Mike, Shark and Gizmo were sandbagging in practise on racing fuel.

Not me. I was only doing practice on race fuel true, but in qually I wasn't even as fast as I was in practice on race fuel until the very final seconds of the session where I got a new PB of 1:20.5. Was never in danger of going anywhere near 1:19s.

Again apologies for the start, it ruined a great evening of racing I'm sure for both me and everyone else. I only got on the grid with a few seconds to go anyway as I was still debating fuel and when the lights came up I just went into automatic mode of standing starts by bouncing it off the limiter in neutral and then a box full of nothing as I clicked the up shift paddle when the lights went green. My immediate reaction is to keep trying as if the button isn't working ::) and then realise it's cause of the new transmission model :o. Needed to wait for revs to drop, by which time already getting piled into :'(. Took out 3 of the 4 Team Shark drivers which I think is pretty impressive even if I was a Legends driver. ;)

Naughty of me to suggest, but could we include 2 drop scores for this series cause of this start debacle? Don't shoot me, just asking.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Adam Parle on September 15, 2010, 08:59:54 AM +0100
I was pretty gutted to have missed this one .... now I'm not too sure :D

Grats Darren on the win.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: ross.mcw on September 15, 2010, 09:31:52 AM +0100
Very happy to have qualified as high as I did given the lack of practice, but all came to nowt at the start as I got driven into the pit wall as people dived sideways to avoid Simon.  Just one of those things.

I agree with Darren that if this happens again the pole car should act as pace car for a rolling lap.

Cheers, Ross.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 15, 2010, 09:55:15 AM +0100
Naughty of me to suggest, but could we include 2 drop scores for this series cause of this start debacle? Don't shoot me, just asking.

Which bit of "best 7" in a 9 race championhsip are you struggling with? ;) :P


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Simon Gymer on September 15, 2010, 09:56:13 AM +0100
Which bit of "best 7" in a 9 race championhsip are you struggling with? ;) :P

Oh, thought it was only 1 dropped score for some reason. Perhaps 3 then? ;D ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Darren Seal on September 15, 2010, 10:25:12 AM +0100
Make it 7!  I'll happily share the title with Brian ;)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Truetom on September 15, 2010, 11:34:17 AM +0100
I think we shouldn't really fuss about this, it's just like a mechanical brakedown in real life races. :)
About drop scores: I have an inverse problem. ;D


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Mike Wrightson on September 15, 2010, 07:30:25 PM +0100
I had a feeling the likes of Brendan, Mike, Shark and Gizmo were sandbagging in practise on racing fuel.
I ran most of practice on race fuel as I hadn't done a lot of laps together and T6 is a nightmare for me (the sharp left up the hill to the corkscrew) so I needed confidence building.  I did 1 lap on qually fuel at the end before getting a 20.4 in Q.  I probably had some time left to find there, but I wasn't going to find it in the time available.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: popabawa on September 17, 2010, 10:03:17 PM +0100
I think this should count as an extra drop for those that were affected by the start procedure.

The guys that got a decent result shouldn't be penalised and those that got caught in the carnage deserve another chance.

Again, sorry for the mistake, it won't happen again....


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Legzy on September 18, 2010, 08:59:12 PM +0100
I think this should count as an extra drop for those that were affected by the start procedure.
The guys that got a decent result shouldn't be penalised
Are you joking?
You only need to see my average finish position to understand I'm not overly concerned about the championsship.... but I don't see how adding a dropped score mid season can be done with out penalising the guys who got a decent result?

I understand you feel bad for making the mistake over the race start Pops, but that's just one of those things. Forgive yourself mate :)


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer on September 18, 2010, 09:43:06 PM +0100
I must admit I'm puzzled by what you mean, Pops. All you could do is increase the number of dropped scores for everyone from 2 to 3, but I don't see any basis for it since the whole point of the dropped scores is to cater for stuff like this.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: ross.mcw on September 18, 2010, 09:54:26 PM +0100
I understand you feel bad for making the mistake over the race start Pops, but that's just one of those things. Forgive yourself mate :)

Ditto!


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: popabawa on September 28, 2010, 09:19:00 AM +0100
Seems the extra drop week idea isn't too popular so I'm officially dropping it, case closed.

Sorry about the mistake, thanks for being so understanding guys, i'll do my best to make sure it doesn't happen again.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Burtoner on October 01, 2010, 01:48:26 PM +0100
dropping it?, so why still pts in the table for it?

Sorry bit lost here?


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Mike Wrightson on October 01, 2010, 03:36:14 PM +0100
He means the result stands as it is.


Title: Re: iRacing Season 4 Mazda - Laguna Seca - Sep 14
Post by: Simon Gymer on October 01, 2010, 03:44:24 PM +0100
He's dropping the idea of dropping an extra week. Besides which we haven't done enough weeks yet to have dropped any because there are 4 weeks left so all existing results are your best results until there are enough to drop your worst 2 which won't happen until after the results of the penultimate race are published.