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Title: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 10, 2010, 05:54:54 PM +0100
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All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 25

Practice: ~19:10 (60 mins)
Race 1 Qualifying: 20:10 (20 mins)
Race 1: 20:30 14 laps~20mins, then following shortly afterwards with reverse grid
Race 2: 14 laps~20mins

Track: Castle Combe Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8338.msg147530#msg147530)

Cars allowed: Caterham CSR200
 
Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: DRY
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: UKRACE07 CRC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.

Special Notes: The grid procedure for Race 07 events is slightly different from GTL/GTR2. Upon joining the grid, you won't be able to rev your engine until all drivers are present on the grid. Do not attempt to esc back to garage or you will be DQ'd.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: b_1_rd on October 15, 2010, 11:11:56 PM +0100
Oh dear.  I was so so so looking forward to this one, but having just downloaded the version of the track I'm disappointed to find it is shockingly poor.  It is absolutely nothing like Castle Combe and even doesn't include the 2 esses / chicanes that have been in place for donkeys!  About the only thing that bears any resemblance is Avon Bridge and even that's the wrong colour! The GTR2 version is light years apart from this, and I'm told that isn't particularly accurate (although to me it looks very close).

I admit to being a bit of an expert on this place as I marshal there, but even if I had never been before I think I'd have known.

 :(


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: goldtop on October 16, 2010, 12:07:43 AM +0100
I know what you mean Steve. AFAIK there isn't a current version of Combe for R07, but at least there won't be those pesky chicanes with their race ending tyres to worry about.

I've not seen the back section, but the run down to Camp seems realistic, although Camp itself seems a little fast. The track does have the "bump" before Quarry, which is bound to catch some drivers out if they go in too hot, as it does IRL. For those not in the know, it's best to brake lightly before the bump unless you enjoy picking rubber out of your teeth  :o

My test races with the AI were good fun, so I'm hopeful these rounds will live up to the previous races.



Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: b_1_rd on October 16, 2010, 12:59:49 AM +0100
I've heard it said 'if you go in to Quarry under full control, you're not going fast enough'  ;D


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: Legzy on October 16, 2010, 09:32:20 AM +0100
Will the ai be joining us for this one GT?
Having heard they're good, I'm quite looking forward to seeing them. :)


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: goldtop on October 16, 2010, 10:10:20 AM +0100
Will the ai be joining us for this one GT?
Having heard they're good, I'm quite looking forward to seeing them. :)

We had a few technical problems with the ai at Snetterton (drivers not able to join) which meant they've been left out so far this series. I'll put them up on the practice server; if they behave themselves and no-one has any problems/objections, I don't see why they can't join us. I'll speed them up a little though because they were getting in the way of the leaders when they ran in our test race.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: BillThomas on October 16, 2010, 11:40:09 AM +0100
After trying to install Race 07 on my Windows 7 drive and trying to sort out problem by running XP drive version and seeing how to change the wheel control setting, that went titsup as well. (probably one of Microsoft's fixes screwed it.)  Been trying to sort out for a while including reinstalling without success.  Wasted too much time already today and yesterday so leaving it for now and sorting out Mondays GTL details.

Problem is, with GTR EVO, when I try and redesignate any G25 wheel paddles/buttons I no longer get the screen that allows you to operate the new control I want to use.

The standard EVO designations for G25 with paddles is OK but is not as I've setup the G25 and been using for years on GTL etc.  Change up/down is reversed and many of the buttons are different.

Any ideas please.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: BillThomas on October 16, 2010, 09:27:19 PM +0100
Sorted or at least I am if you've got 4 AI drivers on the server.

Had a Eureka moment this afternoon whilst I was in the conservatory lying enjoying the sun.  Remembered when I set the Win 7 installation setup the Anti-Ailasing (?) setting was disabled and I without thinking set it at level 4 as is my want.

Set it to disabled and was immediately able to reconfigure my wheel.  Phew.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 18, 2010, 10:43:38 PM +0100
Crikey this is a rather fast track, I've never been, or simmed it, so its sad to hear its not all that accurate but at least its exciting. Its so fast, its makes me wonder what R2 will be like. Be fun to find out :)

I had a quick go and thought the AI on server were rather more competitive than last time we tried them. They were doing late 02's which makes them competitive I think.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 18, 2010, 11:12:24 PM +0100
I wouldn't dream of contradicting Steve but..............it is the circuit with the chicanes removed which is a shame but most of the remaining turns, the ones at the four corners of the track seem fairly realistic to me.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: Legzy on October 19, 2010, 11:48:51 PM +0100
I think the track is very much like the GTR2 version... how much more of a yard stick to reality do you need? ??? ;)

Another stonking track for this car, did 15-20 laps with Ginsters tonight. Hit a mid-02 with race fuel, which was just over half a sec slower than him... hope that's good enough for front/second row tomorrow :-\


p.s. Be warned, I am officially staring the "Save our Caterham for season R4 too!" campaign right here. >:(


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: Mike Miller on October 20, 2010, 11:36:44 AM +0100
I watched a boat load of Castle Combe trackday crash videos on you tube last night. Why do so many people crash at quarry?


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: picnic on October 20, 2010, 01:23:56 PM +0100
Why do so many people crash at quarry?

It's an interesting corner. In my Impreza (not a race car) I was getting close to an indicated 130mph before Avonrise and Quarry. The track goes left over a couple or rises in the track where the car goes light as it comes off them all this in the Quarry braking zone. If you do a track day and get a briefing at Combe they tell you to brake either side of the rises for stability. For me Tower is a much scarier corner. Again well over the 100 in a road car before downhill braking, the camber is then adverse throwing the car out towards the edge of track where there is very little run off.

I am but an amateur but a friend who used to race Formula V reckoned Quarry was one of the hardest corners on the UK club scene to get right.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: goldtop on October 20, 2010, 07:24:54 PM +0100
Not ashamed to admit that I bottled out of a track day here earlier this year. Quarry scares me in simworld let alone IRL.

p.s. Be warned, I am officially staring the "Save our Caterham for season R4 too!" campaign right here. >:(

I'm all for going with the flow.....if there's enough support for it Legzy, we could always run something alternate weeks to the successful mod in this poll....

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8509.0;viewResults

Let's have some ideas though  ;)


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: BillThomas on October 20, 2010, 08:48:22 PM +0100
Not really had sufficient practice for this track.  In the race I went into that tricky chicane behind an AI who braked very early causing me to lockup and slide into the back of him screwing up my suspension.  Decided an early exit.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 20, 2010, 09:28:26 PM +0100
It looked like the racing was fast and furious at the front end.

Unfortunately I'm so slow even the AI were pointing at me and laughing

Ho hum, always next week


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: Legzy on October 20, 2010, 09:44:48 PM +0100
we could always run something alternate weeks to the successful mod in this poll....

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8509.0;viewResults

Only just seen this, great minds GT, great minds :D


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: goldtop on October 20, 2010, 09:50:30 PM +0100
Results and replays in the usual places


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: Legzy on October 20, 2010, 10:01:23 PM +0100
Can't believe I'm disappointed with 3rd & 2nd  :-\:o

It's because I had the fastest lap in both races (discounting Aliens ;)) & just felt like I drove out my skin. There's just something about these cars that feels fantastic & holdable right on the edge, while still keeping it really close with the other drivers! 8)

I just needed a bit more time to catch GT in the 1st race (about 10 laps would have done it :laugh:) & I should never have crumbled to let Ginsters past with 2 laps to go in the 2nd :'( :'( :'(.

Great driving Ian :punk:

Had some brilliant exchanges with multiple drivers, API probably the most, lost count of how many corners we did side by side! But also Matt, Pete, nsfast & a certain AI 'G.Kelly' all had their fun moments too.

Nice one all.

p.s. pleased to claw a few points back on nsfast tonight & good Oldie team score too, nice one Tinman.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: goldtop on October 20, 2010, 10:06:07 PM +0100
Good fun tonight at the Combe. Had a nice start in Race1 and avoided what appeared to be a bit of bother going into the dreaded Quarry. Held on to Ian for a couple of laps as I was able to draft, but he soon managed to pull a big gap. Left me with a bit of a lonely drive to the line.

Race2 was much better while it lasted, but unfortunately I got a tad too close to TinMan approaching Tower which put me in the barrier. Sorry for the tap TM. Saw a few cars heading for me so hit esc to get out of the way. Watched the rest of the race from the pits, which looked great fun, but must have discoed at the end as I missed the after race chat, so...

Congrats to podies and thanks to all who turned out.

And don't forget to have your say in our poll for season R4....

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8509.0;viewResults


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: ginsters sponsored on October 20, 2010, 10:53:17 PM +0100
It looked like the racing was fast and furious at the front end.

Indeed, R2 was a cracker :)

Had a great start and soon got with Matt our leader but it all went pair shaped there for a mo. Ballsed up the final turn and it seemed everyone took advantage by Quarry the next time round. Got it together after that "moment", then had some ace fights with Tinman, Api, Nsfast (at least twice :)), don't think I saw Matt but finally Legzy stood in the way. Was shaping him up nicely only to balls up that ruddy final turn again. I caught him again with two to go and didn't honestly think I had enough time. His slip gave me the win that I probably didn't deserve but great racing with him and the rest of you :)  

Like last week, I think a few gents were caught out by my early braking but thanks for skillfully avoided me. As a great man, and many a muppet, once said "slow in fast out" ;) Thats seems especially true of the Cats.

Shame not to see Steve, Cossie and a few other regulars as, with them, we could have had a really good grid. As it was, nice few tonight and great fun. Ta.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 21, 2010, 11:31:15 PM +0100
I haven't read any comments, good or bad, about the AI involvement in this race. I thought that their strength setting was quite good and I certainly enjoyed driving against them in Race 2. Good to see them make mistakes, I saw two of them collide and crash, and this kept me on my toes when dicing with them.

Any views?


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: b_1_rd on October 22, 2010, 06:42:18 PM +0100
Sorry had to miss it, as much as I didn't like the representation of the track I'd have still driven it, but sadly had to go for a family funeral.  Hope to get to the next one.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: nsfast on October 22, 2010, 07:29:49 PM +0100
I haven't read any comments, good or bad, about the AI involvement in this race. I thought that their strength setting was quite good and I certainly enjoyed driving against them in Race 2. Good to see them make mistakes, I saw two of them collide and crash, and this kept me on my toes when dicing with them.

Any views?

I thought the AI were a good addition to this event. After a bad start to Race 1, I had some good action with them pushing for that important P8.  :)


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Castle Combe - Oct 20
Post by: goldtop on October 22, 2010, 07:54:51 PM +0100
I haven't read any comments, good or bad, about the AI involvement in this race. I thought that their strength setting was quite good and I certainly enjoyed driving against them in Race 2. Good to see them make mistakes, I saw two of them collide and crash, and this kept me on my toes when dicing with them.

Any views?

I thought the AI were a good addition to this event. After a bad start to Race 1, I had some good action with them pushing for that important P8.  :)

Thanks for the feedback gents. I had feared they were going to be a little too quick when I tested them earlier in the evening. Trying to get them at mid pack pace is my aim, but it can be tricky with such a close field. The AI values appear to vary considerably from track to track which doesn't help matters.

Let me know what you think of them at rainy Rockingham if you get the chance.