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Title: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on September 10, 2010, 05:58:52 PM +0100
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All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 25

Practice: ~19:10 (60 mins)
Race 1 Qualifying: 20:10 (20 mins)
Race 1: 20:30 14 laps~20mins, then following shortly afterwards with reverse grid
Race 2: 14 laps~20mins

Track: Oulton Park (Island) Download this (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8338.msg147532#msg147532)

Cars allowed: Caterham CSR200
 
Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Weather: DRY
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: Normal
Fuel consumption: Normal

Server: UKRACE07 CRC
Password: see above (#post_event_password)

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.

Special Notes: The grid procedure for Race 07 events is slightly different from GTL/GTR2. Upon joining the grid, you won't be able to rev your engine until all drivers are present on the grid. Do not attempt to esc back to garage or you will be DQ'd.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: goldtop on October 31, 2010, 11:50:39 AM +0000
Just a reminder that the AI will not be joining us for this event.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Steve Holmes on October 31, 2010, 12:00:12 PM +0000
I *hope* I will be though!

Finally finished a VERY slow upgrade to Win 7, ten minutes here, ten minutes there, and am finally up and running. 

Quick practice and the little Cat is a bucking bronco over the bumps.  The kerbs are nasty too, seem to drag the nose in or spit the tail out.  Best avoided.  Oulton looks great with the shimmering trees though.

No laptime, I'm too embarrassed, everyone will be much faster, I seem to be relearning how to drive again!

Fingers crossed I'm not doing my usual falling-asleep-when-I-get-home-from-work trick.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on October 31, 2010, 01:02:10 PM +0000
Just a reminder that the AI will not be joining us for this event.

We want Grecian, we want Grecian, we want Grecian


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: lazlow on November 01, 2010, 10:01:55 AM +0000
Managed to dust off my GTR Evo last night....so I'm going to join you all on Wednesday for some kitty fun.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 01, 2010, 12:53:58 PM +0000
Managed to dust off my GTR Evo last night....so I'm going to join you all on Wednesday for some kitty fun.

Make sure you try to connect to the server before Wednesday night, just in case


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: b_1_rd on November 02, 2010, 12:24:44 PM +0000
Is anyone else getting airborne on the run down to Cascades?  I don't think my setup is particularly stiff but seem to be leaping off the brow of the down hill section.

I noticed the AI (offline) seem to be struggling to keep on track there too.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: goldtop on November 02, 2010, 07:58:33 PM +0000
Well I'm having to lift just before the final hump in Cascades and then brake only lightly to maintain momentum into the turn. The AI haven't worked this out and usually end up in a pile on the right hand grass bank, which is why they're not running here.

I've had a good look at this section of the track in my visits to Oulton and it's very well replicated here. IRL you're guarranteed to see a few unfortunates end their race in the kitty litter at the bottom of the hill through going in too hot. You've been warned  ;D


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Legzy on November 02, 2010, 10:00:42 PM +0000
Bunch of us online now :)


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Legzy on November 02, 2010, 11:22:15 PM +0000
Great great classic fun there tonight, really good close stuff 8)

Managed a 1:26.2 under the pressure of the last race of the night :o

What was crazy, was just how close our times all were (all six of us) & just how close you're able to be corner after corner 8)


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: b_1_rd on November 02, 2010, 11:53:32 PM +0000
Is there anyway to have a snap view of outside (like F10 in GPL for those familiar)? Not that it happens very often but if someone is following behind and makes a move to pass I feel obliged to just let them through as I cant see where they are from the rather useless virtual mirror.  I'm using 'hood' view by default.  Or would it be better to utilise a 90 degree side view from the wheel buttons or something?

Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 03, 2010, 08:47:34 AM +0000
Expensive but Trackir fixes that stuff


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Wiltshire Tony on November 03, 2010, 08:49:09 AM +0000
Unfortunately I am going to declare myself doubtfull for this event. Real shame as I love the track but with no practise I think it would just end in tears.

Have fun chaps


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Truetom on November 03, 2010, 10:00:23 AM +0000
It doesn't allow me here to use any mirrors at all. ??? Something in my options?


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: picnic on November 03, 2010, 11:01:53 AM +0000
Unfortunately I am going to declare myself doubtfull for this event. Real shame as I love the track but with no practise I think it would just end in tears.

That reminds me, must download the track  :-[


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: b_1_rd on November 03, 2010, 12:55:02 PM +0000
It doesn't allow me here to use any mirrors at all. ??? Something in my options?

Not sure if you mean this, but for rear view mirror options got to:

Options / Visual Settings / make sure you have 'vehicle' selected / rear view mirror.  I have 'Virtual'.

I might struggle to make qualifying or race1 but hope to join late if I'm back in time.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Legzy on November 03, 2010, 09:29:59 PM +0000
Good turn out, growing again a little this week :)

Another good couple of races, though I was a little frustrated I couldn't get near my times of last night, particularly in race 1. Race 2 i got down to a 26.4, but I was confident last night I'd break into the 25's.

Enjoyed some good racing again, not sure how many more times I'll get away with saying how excellent this sim is to actually 'race' with people :thumbup1: & not just hot lap with other driver equally spread out on track for fear of touching. :-X :whistling:

Well done Ian & Tudor on your wins. Nice to see you joining too Steve 8)


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: ginsters sponsored on November 03, 2010, 09:37:46 PM +0000
Shame you didn't make that Steve, what a cracker in R2.

R1 was bit quite but, after last night, I was just itching to get to R2. Nice of Ade to play the team game and couldn't believe that Tudor and I were up to P2 and 3 after one lap. We reeled Steve in slowly. He might be rusty but he still knows how to race, cheeky monkey. No way I could get past him and the field began to bunch up again. I was now attempting to get past Steve with Lazlow ready to pounce. It was Lazlow who took the first chance but we came together even, bugger and sorry, which then let Pete through. Pete was going strong then made a very impressive exit right across my bows :o Think Steve then slipped up somewhere and it was then just Tudor in front. Piled on the pressure but he didn't flinch, kerbie material you see, for last 5 laps and brought it home for a great win. Congrats to all as that, Lazlow clash apart, was the best race I've had in an age.

Nice to see a strong Leg-Ends presence and we all await the entry of their finest, MJ, with some trepidation. Just a few more faces and this will have a great future.

  


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: b_1_rd on November 03, 2010, 10:19:57 PM +0000
Real life got in the way, sorry couldn't make it after all.  :(


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: picnic on November 03, 2010, 10:55:33 PM +0000
I think the Cats are a love hate thing. No ordinary races, they are either good or total rubbish. However tonight's did even reach the heights of total rubbish. I never got to grips with the car/track combo and the fact I survived more than 1 lap in race 2 was more down to luck than anything. Better forgotten quickly or it'll all discourage me from driving these again!

Had much MUCH better races before and after in iR  :whistling:

To add insult to injury I see I didn't even get any points for race 1 as I never made it to the end of the first lap  ::)


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Legzy on November 03, 2010, 11:24:04 PM +0000
Had much MUCH better races before and after in iR  :whistling:
I don't know how you do it Pete, no practice, turn up from an i(bore)Race & shoot out some very decent lap times :o
I bet if I tried that, I'd probably not make it past lap one & be quite frustrated ;)


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: goldtop on November 03, 2010, 11:27:28 PM +0000
Had a nice start to Race1 with a good exit out of Old Hall and was in P3 behind Ian and Ade at the hairpin. Had a great few laps putting pressure on Ade, until he spun it off the inside kerb at the hairpin and I was away. Meanwhile Ian had built a big gap in front, so I just concentrated on keeping in neat and managing the gap back to TT for a 2nd place.

Race2 was a corker. I luckily managed to avoid the incident at the hairpin on lap 1 and drove through to 2nd behind Steve, with Ian right behind me. A couple of laps later I made my only real error of the 2 races when I went too hot through Cascades and Ian was through. Upfront Steve was doing a good job holding off Ian and I was able to tag on. I had a nice exit out of Old Hall and through Avenue and sneaked past Ian on the outside into 2nd. Steve then ran too deep into the hairpin and I was through for the lead :o

Managed to pull a 3 or 4 second gap at one stage, but once Ian had cleared Steve he quickly closed in on me. Now with 5 or 6 laps to go, that's about the last thing I want to see in my mirrors  :scared:;)  After last week's GTC race, I was determined not to make any silly mistakes and throw it away so I dug deep and I was just able to keep you at bay to the end.  :sweatdrop:


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Truetom on November 03, 2010, 11:58:46 PM +0000
Have to apologize to nsfast for a touch. Was a bit too late on the brakes and there was contact. As I was thinking of waiting there was a blood trail on the ground and it took me off to more racing. Only later did I realize that this really was a Championship race. As I was there the first time it was a fun race for me and now I must apologize doubly. Will be more careful in later races. :-\

Must say this sim really drags me. It's better made than GTR2 and we need some mods to keep the GT classes going. I think MJ hit it on the head: this really feels the natural way froward. 8)

P.S. @ Picnic: you were making totaly decent laps in R2 and you would have more consistency with a bit of practice and better setup. :) Join the iHaters. :P


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: lazlow on November 04, 2010, 12:39:36 AM +0000
Enjoyed tonight, I hope to have more races like these.
It's just incredible how close you can drive these cars 8)

Race 1 - I managed to get swamped by other drivers at the start, even though I thought I got a reasonable get away ??? Ended up down the order, not being able to challenge to much the people infront. I think I must of picked up a knock because the car wasn't handling the same as it was in practice.

Race 2 - Managed to just miss Ade's sideways slide going down to the hairpin, which left GT, SBG and myself to battle it out for position on the track. It was shaping up to be an epic as SBG tried to get past GT while keeping a watchful eye on my very close presence behind. I managed to get a run on SBG going through the two right handers, and decided to make my move going into the second from last corner....I dived down the inside just locking my inside rear brake, causing our two cars to clash side by side going through the corner, and because my car was slightly unsettled going over the brow of the hill, my car span round leaving me near the back of grid.....shame, because I was really enjoying that battle.

Well done to all the podiums and see you next time for some more close racing....can't wait!!!


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Mike Miller on November 04, 2010, 01:57:07 AM +0000
Sorry I missed the race guys. I worked in New York again. It looks like this will become a regular thing in the future. More on that later...


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: picnic on November 04, 2010, 08:27:05 AM +0000
I guess it's a bit unfair to moan as I admit to little practice but I'm not quick at this racing lark and usually find a pace I'm comfortable with in 10 or so laps. After another 10 I will have set a lap time I will struggle to beat. I don't have the patience these days to spend hours stumbling around a track that keeps spitting me off unless I'm driving around at a snails pace. A quick lap time does not a race make. I was always an accident waiting to happen and in hindsight I really should have recognised this and not raced.

P.S. I did even less practice for the 2 iR races  :P


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: phspok on November 04, 2010, 09:29:21 AM +0000
Spent most of the evening trying to work around my apparently hijacked steam account
Having nmot heard from steam support for a day, I decided to buy another key on line]
was only 13 quid, so I will not be destitute. (after the race they sent me a reply with
instructions to get my account back) I had no setup time but was happy to run near the back
I like the cats, I like the way they are "chuckable" I like the cliose racing. I constantly struggle
with the braking. Have tried people's setups to no avail. Have tried bias from 58 to 65 front
I have tried reducing brake effect to the min of 90%, yet I still lock wheels. I have not worked
out exactly which wheels... sometime the front locks, then quickly followed by the rears locking
That's what happened on Lap 1 last night, went into the island hairpin as I had been doing, and
locked wheels and slid into someone causing a domino chain. Sorry for that, no one seemed
to get hit hard, but I then fell off more than once in the next lap, and called it a day.
If I can;t race these things because of braking I would rather use something else, as my
patience for them is now paper thin.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Steve Holmes on November 04, 2010, 10:16:46 AM +0000
There was some good racing to be had, as was mentioned, at least for the first few handful of laps I could keep it together.  So 2 last places.  And an inability to really balance on the limit.  And that was me on a good day.

Hope Race 07 can be a success, I always thought it drove closest to what my car feels like on track, but I think my attendance may remain intermittent at best.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Mark J on November 04, 2010, 06:32:24 PM +0000
i think i'll struggle to join you for any of these if it stays on a wednesday eve. Any chance of it moving to tuesday somepoint in the future or are you saving that for a new Evo GT series?  ;)

If not will try and join whenever i can, which may not be often  :(


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Mark J on November 04, 2010, 07:02:47 PM +0000
What version are you all on out of interest? I thought i removed Race07 a while back but still runs via steam for me. Vers 1.2.1.2 is what mine shows. But it lists some updates on steam which i thought it auto applies?

Ironically, my GTR evo key code isnt working on steam  ::) have contacted their support desk to find out why but bet its somehow picking up that i had Race97 already on there. So just offline evo for me at the moment.


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: Truetom on November 04, 2010, 09:14:25 PM +0000
 ??? Surely that's not fair. Get some dB higher. ;)


Title: Re: Race 07 Caterham Roadsport Challenge - Oulton Park (Island) - Nov 3
Post by: b_1_rd on November 04, 2010, 09:52:00 PM +0000
yes 1.2.1.2, MJ