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Onto our final off-season fun event before the serious stuff begins.
For this event you will travel through time taking a sprint in three consecutive years visiting Monza in 1965, 1966 and 1967. The catch is, once you choose your marque, you have to stick with it. Points (detailed below) will be tallied across all three events to determine who is the UKGPL Timelord.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 03-10-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Monza
Variants;
Race 1 = 65F1 (using the updated 65 Mod)
Race 2 = 66F1, 3L engines
Race 3 = 67F1 (the 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used)
Damage Model = INT
Chassis = see note below
Qualifying time(s) = 10 minutes
Race length(s) = novice

Password: open event

The track can be downloaded from : original Papy track
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2803 (http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2803)

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time = GMT).

Points Scoring (per race);
Standard Points Positions 1-19:
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30 - 25 - 21 - 18 - 16 - 14 - 13 - 12 - 11 - 10 - 9 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1

Chassis;
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Chassis - you must pick one of the following and stick with it per the table below through each race. Any driver varying Marquee in race 2 and/or 3 will score no points for the offending event;

65	66	67
Brabham BT11	Brabham BT19 3L	Brabham BT24
BRM P261	BRM P83 3L	BRM P115
Cooper T77	Cooper T81 3L	Cooper T81b
Brabham BT7	Brabham BT19 3L	Brabham BT24
Ferrari 1512	Ferrari 312 3L	Ferrari 312
Lotus 33	Lotus 43 3L	Lotus 49
Honda RA272	Honda RA 273 3L	Honda RA300

Built in Villa Reale park north of Monza and officially opened on 3 September 1922. The 1933 race was marked by the deaths of three drivers and the Grand Prix layout was changed, with two chicanes added and the longer straights removed. The first grand prix after WW2 was held on 17 October 1948. The high speed bank‌ing was added in 1954. 1961 had a fatal accident, with Wolfgang von Trips and fourteen spectators dying near the Parabolica. Despite the fact that the bankings were not involved in that accident, F1 never raced on the oval again (except in the film Grand Prix made in 1966). The 1000 km Monza staged the last event on the banking in 1969. Various 'safety' measures were introduced in subsequent years with additional chicanes and run off areas.

"The catch is, once you choose your marquee"

Do you mean chassis/team?

Mwuahahahahahahahahahahah. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Chassis/team, sorry should have spelt it marque

I would've still asked the same even if you did.  :D

Having slipped away from the ruthless ( but fair  ::) ) instructors at this remote Waza training facility in the wilds of the South West, I was able to pick up a Wi Fi connection on my laptop during a short refreshment break.
I used the time to write this rather than suck the dew off of the coarse moorland grasses.

If I can avoid any further "enjoyable" beatings ( the encouraging words of sensei Stikki Wakkiassi ) and eat enough grass to sustain my finely tuned athletic body, I will be behind my wheel and ready to serve her again for these races.

Amongst the other wonderful things we have endured enjoyed here are some intriguing lectures, with content from our ninja spies, about our opponents for the forthcoming seasons and their weaknesses.

When I have a little more time,  and when I discover how to upload the photographic evidence of those desperate to emulate the ways of the Wazas I shall do so. :-\

HER!


You can upload images to blog posts on our team site.  ;)

I shall be serving HER by ensuring nobody can gain a lap - none shall pass but many will queue <ahem>

Got to skip this one, I'll be busy attending my own birthday party.

Happy birthday Hristo and have a good one

SHE has graciously allowed H to have the evening off in recognition of his contribution to the WAZA cause.  ;)

Which sadly leaves the rest of us to try and cover for his absence :-\

Happy Birthday H. Many happy returns.

Thanks guys, hope you have a good race! Make HER proud!  ;D

Have a good un H  :)

Happy Birthday H!
I'll be missing this aswell. Have just got home from a 4 hour drive in my Dad's Waza S2000 in the worst conditions I've driven in in years!
Can those of you who make it endevour not to beat my FL's please ;)

WTF

I rush home from N Wales , Gulp me tea down , try to join sever and it needs a password  :-\ :-\ :-\


so where do i find said password ???

Damn those races were hectic! The 65s were great fun. I made a poor start but kept making places as the laps went bay, challenging for the lead with a lap to go. However, I took a risky route around the outside of John at Ascari and it ended in disaster with both our races ruined. Apologies for that John; I was a touch foolish.

The 66 race was just something else. It seems my laptop just can't cope with the 66s graphics and I had major FPS problems on the straight and ended up spinning on the main straight when someone piled into the back of me. Apologies to just about everyone there! From then on, it was a relatively quiet race, enjoying a nice battle with Jethro for a few laps, though the amount of casualties seen on the track was staggering  :angel:.

The 67 race was a complete disaster  ::). At the start, I was in the Lotus' blind spot ahead, and we made contact, with me joining in last place. After that, Bill took a shift R on the run down to Ascari but for some bizarre reason, GPL did not notice my car and let Bill rejoin at the exact same point my car was, causing a huge crash. That was enough for me and I quit. It seems with my absence of recent seasons has left my race craft somewhat rusty. No matter, for the next race here's hoping I won't become a hazard to others  :).

Some good close racing on full grids, great fun apart from a few crashes. Personal apology from me for causing one at Para on the last lap of race one.
Sorry if the last minute password caused inconvenience. This event was originally intended as a free for all but so many UKGPL'ers turned up it made sense to give it a password so members would get server priority.

So the results are in and the UKGPL Timelord is Al Heller who painted his tardis red for these races.
Everyone stuck to their correct chassis and the full results were;

1) Al Heller - 85
2) Natan - 64
3) John Roberts - 53
4) Tom King Hero - 48
5) Juha Halli - 41
6) Steve Bird - 34
7) Jethro Walters - 33
8 ) Phil Thornton - 31
9=) Sam Blood - 30
9=) Bob Whitwell - 30
10) Martin Hunt - 28
11) Vlad Vosblod - 27
12) Ronnie Peterson - 26
13) Nigel Smith - 25
14) Bernie Darwin - 24
15) Evil Clive - 16
16) Billy Nobrakes - 15
17) Zak Blito - 14
18) Paul Badblood - 11
19) Tommie Van O - 8

Er...had the same problem as Bernie, and it actually said free race on the top of this thread I think, how does this work guys?

A

Per my note above. To date we had been getting half grids on the fun races so the intent was to leave it open.
As it turned out we had a full grids worth in chat by 9pm. It is only fair to give members server priority so I put on a password and announced it in chat and left it on the chatroom topic.
Sometimes changes have to be made according to circumstance but everyone in chat prior to the start got to participate. 

Soz Vosblod, didnt read your previous post in full, looking forward to mosport then 8)

Perhaps some method of pre empting a full grid situation for future races of this type would save AGRO

e.g. " Password (bla bla bla ) may be required" to enter this race in the event that a full grid turn up  :)

Then us late comers (ther's always one ) can get on the grid in time and not get frustrated by being locked out  ::)

As it happened Clive posted the PW on the last minute , I joined 65's during the gestation period but had to go straight to the start grid , unknowingly with the default set up which we all know is freekin US  :-\

66 was better cobbled a set up that was OK but then found my new GPL install made Monza look like a completely different track from what I had been used to , the graphics superb , but who moved all the signage on LHS entering Parabolica ? I previously used these as reference marks for braking . My own fault for not trying the track out previous .

67 should have been good,  got a good start but then got rear ended on the drag up to Curva Grand wich demoted me to P last  :-\
Had fun catching up but a spin somewhere knocked me back again down the order .

At least some of you guys enjoyed decent racing , but lower down the order with so much "gung ho " stuff going on made things no better than the worst kind of Pick Up race.




 

 

Yep that sounds a good idea, will try and remember to do that in future. The downside is that by virtue of needing one due to a full grids worth in chat it might mean anyone turning up late would find the server full up anyway.
It's only an issue in fun races as official season ones are passworded and we have a reserve driver system.

I've not raced the "red cars" much so I thought I'd give them a whirl here... a decision that worked out rather well results-wise, although went down like a lead balloon with the management at Clark-Hill I can assure you! :taz: A rather fortunate win in race 1, inheriting the lead after picking my way through the debris of two pile-ups & just managing to hold off Juha for the last lap. 

Thanks to Vos for organising. It's a great idea for a race & I can't help thinking it'd make an interesting series (perhaps with a rule that you have to use every chassis at least once in a season)

My connection was rather patchy last night - so apologies to anyone else who suffered.
The evening was definitely not short of incident & when I did get the connection working there always seem to be an accident ahead I couldn't quite avoid. Nevertheless did get some reasonable times in qualifying.
Thanks to Vos for organising the event. This was always going to have to be a well known track but even with with only 3 brake points it takes a while to adjust between the different cars. Look forward to trying this format again.

UK and Offprac comes to mind

The other option is not to be late!  :P

Perhaps it may be worth issuing a password by default on the race thread, and then if only a few do turn up remove the password option to allow other non-UKGPL in.

Got a lucky 4th in race 1 but race 2 and 3 were pretty lack lustre performances for various reasons of both my own errors and becoming involved in other peoples accidents.

Good fun though, and like the format.

All 3 races were good fun, enjoyed the format and made for some interesting racing.

Race 1: fina****ingly got the hang of the Honda RA272 to post a top time, and was hanging back to avoid pushing myself into any overtake. That let Al through then he ended up dropping back after Natan and he tangled, before Sam and John had a "close moment" at Ascari that the gods conspired I join in with.

Race 2: that Honda RA273 is annoying to drive at times. Tried staying with the top guys after a very-much draft-assisted qualy time, but it didn't come off.

Race 3: rejoins people, rejoins. Think about where other cars can/will be when you put the boot in. After not giving Juha enough room on the inside that put me and the start of the Curva Grande outside barrier on first-name terms. A quick Shift-R and staying out of trouble didn't work when Bob's car went flying across the road into mine. Thought best to quit before I caused any more damage.

Have to echo everyone else's comments, enjoyed it, but quite a bit of carnage.  I had a few spins which caused issues for others, sorry about that.  I have only ever driven 66s once before and found the Lotus 43 to be a bit of a tail happy handful, not sure if that was the setting I downloaded.  Couldn't string much together in the 67s and was over 2 secs off my pb.  Roll-on the start of the season.

Not me Jethro - I was behind you the whole time & only got ahead after you got caught up in the John-Sam tangle. Not sure how I managed to avoid all the debris though!

If only life could be so simple !

Ah, probably best I view the replay and enjoy the carnage then. :D

I don't know what you lot are going on about - I had some fantastically close racing...

... with the armco, the kerbs, gravel traps etc.

I also managed to go slower in the 67 than the 66  >:(

Nigel zoomed past me out of the Parabolica - I want his gears, mine were *!@?**

65s - Had a slow start but managed to hang onto Steve B, Vosblod (Tim) and Maddog (Martin).  Some great close racing until the last lap at Lesmo 1.  Tim took a defensive inside line so Maddog went for the outside and I followed.  We both went in a bit hot and our back ends stepped out unfortunately I ended up railriding on the armco which wouldn't have been too bad if I hadn't suffered warp contact with JR.  JR seems to have got past cleanly on the inside but clear warp contact caused my car to explode all over the track.  Pity, after challenging Tim and Martin for a podium place on the last lap I ended up almost dead last :(.

66s - Got a much better start.  In fact too good and I was right on the tail of Evil when we entered the Curva Grande.  I stayed on the outside but warp contact punted me into the armco and carnage ensued.  Sorry gents (not sure if my connection is at fault, is my car warping more than most??).  Got going and had a decent battle with Martin until we touched in Lesmo 1 and I ended up perched on top of the armco.  Reset and ended up practically last but thanks to some serious destruction derby driving (not by me I hasten to add) I ended up 8th!!

67s - A much cleaner race.  In fact no incidents whatsoever for me.  Had a good clean battle with J Hali and Bob in the early laps before Bob crashed and Juha pulled away.

Overall a great event for me.  Really liked the format.

65`s - ran a creditable 11th, battling hard  with  two hondas (nigel and ronnie i think) right up to Lesmo on the last lap when Phils upside lotus caused me to go into the barriers. Recovered to a disapointed 14th

66`s - Welcome to disco city. something major wrong with my 66 install i think. Worked fine in single player mode but repeatedly CTD online :(

67`s - Not used the 67`s at monza since since 2005 so had to build a setup from scratch and it was rubbish! Stable enough on the gas, quick enough to steer but dreadful on the brakes, pulling hard left under heavy braking! Net result was an off at either Lesmo1 or Parabolica on every lap. Great side-by-side finish with Nigels Honda though - just 0.01 apart :D

Appalling level of driving etiquette at times by all concerned (me included) and on this evidence shift R is not something I am looking forward to when the season starts. BUT, great fun and a really entertaining set of races. As someone else mentioned a series where all types of cars have to be used in a season sounds interesting (mix of 65,66,67 and 69?). Thanks again Vos a fantastic season curtain raiser. :rockon:

Fully agree Ronnie , that's why allowing S/R is a bad idea , if you have to use it then of corse a compulsory pits in should be enforced, trouble is there can often be doubt followed by too much post race debate over who was at fault . In any case when S/R is deployed,  the " re-join " often can , and does, cause further problems for those running behind .


 

Strange you should say that as a compulsory stop and only one Shift/R is what is being applied in the Privateers.
In general we are a PRO league but the exception is the 'learner' division(s) ie Novices (and Privateers to a lesser degree). We need to encourage those coming up through the ranks and the Shift/R options on offer do mean there is a penalty to be had in the Stop and Go factor.
In theory GPL will not let you respawn until the track is clear but this doesn't always work in practice, so common sense needs to be applied ie wait until you can hear the track is clear, don't immediately Sh/R if you were in a queue of traffic etc. Actual track rejoins are addressed per the guidelines here (https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/bad_rejoin).

Anyone who prefers PRO does, of course, have the option of joining the higher 65/67 leagues ie Amateurs and Works.

65:  i have a no idea how to drive 65 Honda, but managed to do my best and finished top 5 i guess.Thanks for my clean driving.

66: didnt work for me, i cannot join a server somehow ?`.

67: nice clean battle whole race and managed to avoid all pile up while a race.Phil was racing good and clean in the end of race. :)


do i find race replays somewhere ?


Juha

Not for fun races, we don't have that much free webspace. Servers always welcome  ;)

Not sure how much demand there is for replays, I tend to download them from Mike's server soon after the race so I have got a permanent copy. If people do want them maybe we could look at online storage like Dropbox or something similar.

We are OK thanks to Mike iro replays for the 'official' races although we only tend to keep a seasons worth on his server.
Beyond that, if anyone is willing to store old replays for download, that would be great. If there is a big demand for the server replays for fun races we could ask Mike nicely if we can put them up for say three months. To be honest, as the events are not moderated, it didn't seem critical to have the servers point of view available on top of the client copy.