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Title: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: G Jonsson on November 12, 2010, 08:35:23 AM +0000 Now, for the 10Th round of the Historic Trophy we go to Efexx for the rerun because of the server issue the first time around. I welcome you all to this event.
There will be chassis restrictions for this one based on the championship standings. Se below. Please restrict chat to a minimum, (or maybe none). Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderator will review any incident on lap one. Best of luck. Race List = iGOR Server = UKGPL_T7_2 IP Address = 62.149.202.168 Race date = 22-03-2011 Time = 21.00 UK time Track = Efexx Club Track Variant = 66F1 2L engines Damage Model = PRO Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Do not start driving until 30 min left. Race length = Pro Long (44 laps) The track can be downloaded from: http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?dis=E&menu=Show_Letters (http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?dis=E&menu=Show_Letters) Group I T1F Eagle Climax Lotus 33 Climax Group II Brabham BT11 2.5lt Lotus 33 BRM GroupIII Ferrari 246 Brabham BT11 BRM BRM P261 Brabham BT11 2.7lt Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I Hristo Itchov Tim Muttram Drivers Restricted to cars form Group II Evilclive KingHiro All other drivers have free chassis choice. Password: see above (#post_event_password) (2) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page (https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R;group=278;theme=6) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: Dave Randall on November 12, 2010, 08:09:06 PM +0000 Quite refreshing to learn a simple track after the fantastic but intense experience of Brno. I think this track is almost like a flattened and straightened Watkins Glen, with good laptimes in the region of 1:04-5 being the same too!
Only three corners that are not flat out, should make for some close racing.. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: b_1_rd on November 16, 2010, 06:35:31 PM +0000 In case anyone was wondering, it is worth learning this track. It is fairly quick to get used to and, for me quite an enjoyable place while being enough of a challenge to feel that you accomplished something by getting it right.
Well worth the effort. Practise server up for a while is anyone wants it. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: Phil Thornton on November 16, 2010, 11:08:16 PM +0000 Pity we had a few server probs tonight. The replacement fun race was great, without doubt the most competitive I've ever been in the 66s. No doubt I'll crash in the league race when we rerun it :taz:
Thanks to Tim and Goran for trying hard to get the race server sorted, at least you now know what the problem was so you'll be able to sort it if it happens again. Thanks also to Steve for a very stable backup server for the fun race :thumbup2: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: b_1_rd on November 16, 2010, 11:11:41 PM +0000 Well, here's the fun race result:
Quote Track: Efexx Tue Nov 16 22:55:37 2010 PRACTICE TIMES Pos No Driver Team Nat Time Diff Laps 1 17 King Hiro66 BRM P261 URU 1m04.687s 11 2 21 Dave Randall-66 BraBT117 GBR 1m05.092s 00.405s 9 3 12 65 evilclive Lot33Cli GBR 1m05.112s 00.425s 10 4 18 Tim Muttram66 Ferr 246 GBR 1m05.222s 00.535s 4 5 22 Göran Jonsson66 Lot33BRM SWE 1m05.719s 01.032s 6 6 38 bernie66 darwin BraBT11B GBR 1m06.242s 01.555s 8 7 10 Phil Thornton66 BraBT117 GBR 1m06.263s 01.576s 8 8 4 Steve Bird66 BraBT11B GBR No time No time 0 9 46 b1 ukserver b Lot33BRM GBR No time No time 0 10 15 Steve Bird66 BRM P261 GBR No time No time 0 11 16 Göran Jonsson65N Lot33BRM SWE No time No time 0 All times are official Generated with GPL Replay Analyser Track: Efexx Tue Nov 16 22:55:37 2010 RACE RESULTS (After 39 laps) Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time Diff 1 17 King Hiro66 BRM P261 URU 39 42m47.947s 2 18 Tim Muttram66 Ferr 246 GBR 39 43m15.400s 27.453s 3 12 65 evilclive Lot33Cli GBR 39 43m26.648s 38.701s 4 10 Phil Thornton66 BraBT117 GBR 39 43m29.770s 41.823s 5 22 Göran Jonsson66 Lot33BRM SWE 39 43m42.745s 54.798s 6 21 Dave Randall-66 BraBT117 GBR 39 43m44.046s 56.099s 7 15 Steve Bird66 BRM P261 GBR 38 43m05.787s 1 lap(s) 8 38 bernie66 darwin BraBT11B GBR 38 43m08.842s 1 lap(s) 9 16 Göran Jonsson65N Lot33BRM SWE 0 DidNotStart 39 lap(s) 10 4 Steve Bird66 BraBT11B GBR 0 DidNotStart 39 lap(s) 11 46 b1 ukserver b Lot33BRM GBR 0 DidNotStart 39 lap(s) Race results are unofficial (Replay might have been saved before end of race) RACE FASTEST LAPS Pos Driver Time Lap 1 Dave Randall-66 1m04.476s 12 2 King Hiro66 1m04.656s 30 3 65 evilclive 1m04.800s 27 4 Tim Muttram66 1m04.804s 36 5 Göran Jonsson66 1m05.207s 20 6 Phil Thornton66 1m05.382s 34 7 Steve Bird66 1m05.590s 35 8 bernie66 darwin 1m05.898s 36 9 Steve Bird66 No time 10 b1 ukserver b No time 11 Göran Jonsson65N No time LEADERS Driver Laps Dave Randall-66 1-7 Göran Jonsson66 8-10 King Hiro66 11-39 Number of lead changes: 2 Number of leaders: 3 LAPS LED Driver Laps led King Hiro66 29 Dave Randall-66 7 Göran Jonsson66 3 HIGHEST CLIMBER Driver Start Finish Change Phil Thornton66 7 4 3 Steve Bird66 10 7 3 Göran Jonsson65N 11 9 2 Tim Muttram66 4 2 2 King Hiro66 1 1 0 65 evilclive 3 3 0 Göran Jonsson66 5 5 0 Steve Bird66 8 10 -2 b1 ukserver b 9 11 -2 bernie66 darwin 6 8 -2 Dave Randall-66 2 6 -4 ON TRACK LAPS Driver Laps/Total Percent King Hiro66 (34/39) 87.18 Dave Randall-66 (31/39) 79.49 Phil Thornton66 (29/39) 74.36 bernie66 darwin (27/38) 71.05 Tim Muttram66 (26/39) 66.67 Göran Jonsson66 (24/39) 61.54 65 evilclive (22/39) 56.41 Steve Bird66 (20/38) 52.63 RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY (first lap excluded) Driver Avg Deviation Std Deviation Avg Laptime Laps King Hiro66 0.420 0.525 1m05.380s 39 Phil Thornton66 1.057 2.071 1m06.725s 39 Steve Bird66 1.178 1.830 1m07.166s 38 bernie66 darwin 1.324 2.607 1m07.566s 38 Tim Muttram66 1.760 3.518 1m06.373s 39 65 evilclive 1.768 2.903 1m06.681s 39 Göran Jonsson66 1.860 3.181 1m07.079s 39 Dave Randall-66 2.467 3.728 1m07.156s 39 All times are unofficial (Replay might have been saved before end of race) Generated with GPL Replay Analyser Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: b_1_rd on November 16, 2010, 11:16:49 PM +0000 All a bit strange really! I couldn't join my server with the BT11 BRM, it kept crashing. Looked like it was trying to go to windowed mode when I joined the track. I could get on the server ok but when I hit the green button to drive it crashed ???
Finally tried the BRM with about 3 minutes of practice left and it worked ok with that but by the time I'd put my setup numbers in the race had started so was half a mile behind, then made a horlicks of it anyway by trying to catch up. Eventually caught Bernie who must have had an off to drop back to me. Well at least the server seemed to be ok, for a back up at least. I have the server replay saved if anyone really wants it I'll upload to my site, let me know. Cheers. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: G Jonsson on November 17, 2010, 12:00:38 AM +0000 I am very sorry for the server mess tonight. It has been sorted, Tim,FMG, found the bug.
The race at Efexx will be run later. Göran Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: Hristo Itchov on November 17, 2010, 02:05:17 AM +0000 Am I lucky or what!? Totally forgot that it's Tuesday (been playing LOTRO since it became free2play), but now the race is going to be run at a later date! ;D
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: G Jonsson on November 17, 2010, 08:53:51 AM +0000 Am I lucky or what!? Totally forgot that it's Tuesday (been playing LOTRO since it became free2play), but now the race is going to be run at a later date! ;D Well, it`s good to know that someone is pleased with the mess up anyway. The rerun date will be 22 March 2011. Once again, sorry for the situation. Göran Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: Hristo Itchov on November 17, 2010, 09:01:56 AM +0000 22 March 2011? :o Isn't that way after the season ends? How come the Riverside rerun is going to be in December 2010, but not this one?
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 17, 2010, 09:38:39 AM +0000 Should be the first Tuesday after the official end of the season :)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: bernie on November 17, 2010, 10:40:32 AM +0000 Quote Eventually caught Bernie who must have had an off to drop back to me. Durrr ! Had an off on lap , got fed up trundling around on my own so decided it might be more interesting if I slowed down and waited for you (which seemed like a good idea at the time) When you eventually turned up you flashed by ungratiously ( I'd slowed too much ) so status quo as far as " racing" was concerned :-[ Seems I'm doomed to race my own shadow in this series as I cant seem to ge these cars up to speed I thought the tow effect was all in 66 's but whenever I got anywhere near you in the twisty bits you just walked away on the straights , maybe my gearing was wrong ? :'( Quote Am I lucky or what!? Totally forgot that it's Tuesday (been playing LOTRO since it became free2play), but now the race is going to be run at a later date! Hristo , Hope you got a ticket for the re run :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: b_1_rd on November 17, 2010, 11:32:29 AM +0000 Damn, sorry Bernie. I didn't click that you actually waited or I'd have slowed to let you get back up to speed first, I think our pace was fairly well matched. I've been caught out before thinking someone has waited and then they disappear again.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: bernie on November 17, 2010, 01:27:35 PM +0000 No worries , pity , with hindsight I could have tried typing you a message but not very good at watching where i'm going and what i'm typing at the same time :(
Trying to catch up gave me "something" to aim at but you were flying ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: fpolicardi on November 17, 2010, 05:18:28 PM +0000 It seems that when is needed my presence I'm off. :(
Last night I had another committment and went in chat only at 22 GMT. I was surprised to not see the T7 server on and nobody in chat. Then I saw another server running Efexx and I guessed that there had been a problem. Sorry for that, I see that now is sorted and I can imagine what was the cause of the problem. Please Tim or Goran let me know something. Ciao Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: FullMetalGasket on November 17, 2010, 06:32:21 PM +0000 PM'd :thumbup1:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: Hristo Itchov on November 17, 2010, 07:03:25 PM +0000 It seems that when is needed my presence I'm off. :( Last night I had another committment and went in chat only at 22 GMT. I was surprised to not see the T7 server on and nobody in chat. Then I saw another server running Efexx and I guessed that there had been a problem. Sorry for that, I see that now is sorted and I can imagine what was the cause of the problem. Please Tim or Goran let me know something. Ciao I have to thank you for not being around, Fulvio! ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: G Jonsson on March 17, 2011, 11:45:03 AM +0000 Just want to make sure you will remember this one.
It is the last chance of the season 20 to prove we can make a first lap with no incidents, so I trust we will do just that. See you on track. Göran Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: bernie on March 17, 2011, 08:15:06 PM +0000 On this day Sun 20th will be 40 years aniversary married to my lovely wife Ruth , might or might not be racing ::)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: Phil Thornton on March 17, 2011, 09:21:54 PM +0000 Congratulations Bernie!!! :jumpjoy:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 18, 2011, 10:18:53 AM +0000 You get less for Murder mate ;)
Well Done the both of you ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: EvilClive on March 19, 2011, 07:20:34 PM +0000 Big congatulations Bernie!! That just confirms that you are a natural winner in the endurance events :clap: :notworthy:
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: EvilClive on March 20, 2011, 07:52:56 PM +0000 No Password posted for this race ???
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 20, 2011, 08:08:48 PM +0000 No Password posted for this race ??? Because it's on Tuesday? Patience. :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: EvilClive on March 20, 2011, 08:17:51 PM +0000 lol doh!!!! I thought it was tonight!!!
:stupid: :wetfish: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Nov 16 Post by: bernie on March 20, 2011, 08:32:47 PM +0000 lol doh!!!! I thought it was tonight!!! :stupid: :wetfish: So did I ! :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: bernie on March 22, 2011, 09:39:24 PM +0000 about a minuet of qually left and me connection dropped :'(
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 22, 2011, 10:17:36 PM +0000 Was having an absolute blast first chasing Clive (who kept scaring the hell out of me with massively early braking) before putting a rear on the dirt while braking for the first 180.
Rejoined behind Goran who fell off 3 laps later leaving me to chase Fulvio's Fezza. This was slower in many of the corners but would just keep on accelerating on the straight preventing me from getting alongside. After sever laps of ignoring my pressure Fulvio managed to half spin on the last of the tight corners right in front of me - My resulting evasive skid put me about a second back which I knew I could regain with ease in 2/3 laps. Not to be as the engine went pop mid corner the very next lap at mid RPM's as I was getting close - Camshaft apparently :( Maybe I should start using that Lotus Hristo drives as that seems to explode less! ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: maddog on March 23, 2011, 09:43:01 AM +0000 about a minuet of qually left and me connection dropped :'( . . . . That's music to no-ones ears, Bach! Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Al Heller on March 23, 2011, 09:45:32 AM +0000 Frustrating end to a frustrating season. Screen-freeze with 4 laps to go after running competitively in 2nd or 3rd the whole race :censored: I make that my 5th screen-freeze of the year :cursing: :censored: :death:
Aside from the first & last races I was in a handicap chassis all season, so dropping out of the top 4 champ places right at the death was particularly galling – especially as this season I seemed to be the unwitting victim of other people’s accidents rather too often. On the bright side, it was nice to have a more competitive run in the last race & I really enjoyed racing at the sharp end. Bernie scared the life out of me when he spun just as I came to lap him & speared across the track into my path but I managed to brake just in time. Looked to have a podium place in the bag when the freeze struck – feel particularly cheated as it was a bloody hard race & I felt I’d driven rather well. Oh well, that’s online GPL I guess - I do love it but sometimes you really wonder whether it’s worth all the aggro… Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: fpolicardi on March 23, 2011, 10:32:50 AM +0000 Screen-freeze at 4 laps to go for me too. :(
It was a strange freeze cause the screen stopped and the engine sound went slowly down like I had blown it. I was having an interesting race keeping at bay Tim, passing Goran and Tom, avoiding a flying car and battling with Al for third till I missed the braking point of the left hander and dropped down to defend from Goran, then the freeze. Thx to mods for running the season! Ciao Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: G Jonsson on March 23, 2011, 11:09:24 AM +0000 There was a suggestion in chat after the race that we should cut it short by 4 laps, before the freezes, and make the standing after 40 laps the result. What do you all think about that? Even if it means I loose my podium position I am willing to do it if you like the idea.
The race it self was pretty much the same as the whole season for me. Too slow and too many mistakes. But it was fun the laps when I was chasing Fulvio, but of cause I messed up when I was trying to pass. Göran Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: bernie on March 23, 2011, 11:49:50 AM +0000 Quote Bernie scared the life out of me when he spun just as I came to lap him & speared across the track into my path but I managed to brake just in time. Must have been the ghost of Bernie mate , I had been demoted to the roll of spectator :D or was it playbach time :D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Al Heller on March 23, 2011, 12:17:51 PM +0000 Quote Bernie scared the life out of me when he spun just as I came to lap him & speared across the track into my path but I managed to brake just in time. Must have been the ghost of Bernie mate , I had been demoted to the roll of spectator :D or was it playbach time :D Oops humble apologies Bernie :-[ - it was into T1 & I only glanced at Prib as we passed the straight & saw you listed as the car in front but obviously it was one of those weird Prib things! Don't have a replay to check who it was as I got disco'ed - will have to wait for the official replay to see who I should send my laundry bill to :D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 23, 2011, 01:23:20 PM +0000 There was a suggestion in chat after the race that we should cut it short by 4 laps, before the freezes, and make the standing after 40 laps the result. What do you all think about that? Even if it means I loose my podium position I am willing to do it if you like the idea. Can you roll it back to about Lap 3 please? that way I'm 3rd ;) ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Dave Randall on March 23, 2011, 02:20:01 PM +0000 Up until lap 14 that was a terrific race, had a good battle with KingHiro, Al and Fulvio and it was one of the closest races I've been involved in, fantastic!!
Then, whilst running quite comfortably in 3rd, I checked the pit board and used the wrong marker for the turn in, clipped the pit wall and was sent three-wheeling at full pelt across the track. Thankfully my fear of bouncing off the bales into someone's path did not materialise and I was at least relieved to do it solo this time, but hugely disappointed with my lapse all the same. After this incident I watched some of the race and Hristo's valiant attempt to come back at Clive after his excursion, which was thwarted by him putting another wheel on the grass and opening the gap back up to something looking insurmountable. Then, my machine also froze with an ascending engine note, from which I had to do a 'hard' reboot twice before it recovered! Thanks to everyone involved for organising and providing such great competition this season, congrats to the podium for this race and to H once again for the Championship. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: G Jonsson on March 23, 2011, 02:55:41 PM +0000 You mean Dave that you had a screen freeze after you had retired the race? When you were watching, from what position were you watching? Someone`s cockpit or? Was if from the cockpit of one of the drivers that had screen freezes or?
I am quite puzzled about the screen freeze fenomen that is why I ask. Göran Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 23, 2011, 03:12:27 PM +0000 The way you experienced screen freeze and the sound pitch going either up or down is normal, that's how it happens. It picks up the sound pitch at the moment you experience the freeze and keeps extending it to infinity, so it either goes very low or very high. For me it was the latter, with 4 laps to go, just as the rest. Apparently some mutual problem between us, caused by the server end. Also, as I asked and got a positive answer, we all experienced a couple of spikes during practice and race, with the picture jumping for a moment and the sound getting weird before returning to normal, and with cars warping heavily for a second. Go figure...
I had a quite eventful race, but never expected the competition to be so fierce, compared to previous races. The track provides great close racing I must say. Evil was insanely fast and had it not been for getting slipstream from him on my final qualifying lap, I had no chance to take pole. Even had to bump him on the s/f straight to maximize the tow to the last moment, lol. The race was an up and down for me, because I had to push very hard to keep up with Evil and the others, as those with faster cars would easily catch up or open a gap on the straights. I definitely benefitted from slipstream, but it was still not enough to make definitive passes, so it was quite close whenever we raced side by side in corners. Eventually I had a big off at T2 and dropped back close to 10 seconds behind Evil and the rest, then drove on the absolute limit to try and close the gap as there were still over 20 laps to go. It took a while to drop the gap to Tom ahead in 4th from 6 to 5 seconds, but after that it began to come down quicker, combined with the fact that I got better used to the car, and also maximized my braking and acceleration as I got more experience with the track. Eventually I caught up with the drivers in front, but passing was a bit more involved, so we had a hard scrap for 3rd and then 2nd. Evil was about 3-4 seconds up the road though and he was very quick, so it took a couple of laps to bring that gap down to 1-2 seconds. Al managed to keep up close behind all that time, so just when it was shaping up for a great battle for the podium steps, I had my 2nd off in T1 and this time lost a lot more time before I managed to continue. I kept pushing hard all the way though, which allowed me to catch and pass people for 2nd, but Evil was out of reach with 4 to go. Then some of us experienced the screen freeze and that was it. Grats to Evil for excelently driven race and quick pace, and a well deserved win! Thanks to all others for the close racing. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: G Jonsson on March 23, 2011, 03:44:42 PM +0000 No response so far regarding ending the race after lap 40 before the freezes.
If I do not hear anyting about it until midnight tonight I will post the results as it stands like this: Track: Efexx Tue Mar 22 23:28:09 2011 RACE RESULTS (After 44 laps) Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time Diff Problem 1 22 65 evilclive BraBT115 GBR 44 47m59.770s 2 10 King Hiro66 BraBT115 URU 44 48m17.685s 17.915s 3 18 Göran Jonsson66 BraBT117 SWE 44 48m38.382s 38.612s 4 19 nig 66smith BraBT117 IRE 41 48m11.962s 3 lap(s) 5 2 Colin McRae66 Lot33Cli GBR 40 43m47.911s 4 lap(s) 6 38 Al Heller66 BraBT11B GBR 40 43m48.340s 4 lap(s) 7 17 Fulvio Policardi-66 Ferr 246 ITA 40 44m10.313s 4 lap(s) 8 16 Dave Randall-66 BraBT117 GBR 13 14m22.591s 31 lap(s) 9 3 Phil Thornton66 Ferr 246 GBR 9 10m33.638s 35 lap(s) 10 15 Tim Muttram66 EagleT1F GBR 8 8m57.140s 36 lap(s) 11 12 bernie66 darwin Lot33Cli GBR 0 DidNotStart 44 lap(s) 12 21 Göran Jonsson65 BraBT117 SWE 0 DidNotStart 44 lap(s) 13 4 nig 66smith Lot33Cli IRE 0 DidNotStart 44 lap(s) 14 46 2 UKGPL_T7 BRM P261 ITA 0 DidNotStart 44 lap(s) If we take the result from the end of lap 40 the order would be: Evil, Hristo, Al, KingHiro, Fulvio, Göran, Nigel and the rest. Göran Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Al Heller on March 23, 2011, 03:50:58 PM +0000 Well obviously I'd be in favour of declaring the race pre-freeze & I'd wager that Fulvio & H might agree ;) Although Dave had already crashed - he also discoed at the same time as us so we lost 4 drivers simultaneously... Like you Goran I'd dearly love to know why these freezes keep happening because it's seriously affecting my motivation for online GPL at the moment.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: EvilClive on March 23, 2011, 04:26:30 PM +0000 A better end to the season than I had expected. I had missed the race that had been aborted earlier in the season and was somewhat alarmed to see the laptimes that were posted.
By sheer cunning and strategic planning I had dropped out of the Group 1 cars by fluffing ( deliberately of course!!) some recent results and now had the enviable task of choosing between the 2.5 ltr Brabham and the Lotus. My first thought was to take the Lotus and a few laps had me into the mid 1.05’s, but I found the handling was almost at the limit of what I could push and there did not seem much scope for improvement. So, I dragged out the Brabham barge expecting it to be slower and less nimble. However, it had very smooth power delivery and more stable in the corners, although it did not feel as fast it immediately knocked half a second off my PB. Some setup tweaks and I was running mid 1:04’s on full tanks…………..progress! :o) I fully expected Hristo, and a few of the other usual suspects, to be into the 1:03’s and was surprised to be leading the qually with a few mins to go. I could see that my fellow Waza was struggling and positioned myself to give him a helping tow in the last few mins. I just did not mean to give him quite that much of a tow!! The first few laps were very tight and although I felt that I could go a little quicker, I was reluctant to make a move that might take Hristo and myself out of the race, or screw up and allow the chasing pack the chance to squeeze through!! I sat back for a couple of laps and drove defensively in the hope that Hristo would get faster if I left him alone and allow us to ease away……..but that did not work and Al and tim were getting impatient behind me. I was in danger of getting passed ( SHE would not approve of that!) and found that I was having to brake earlier than I wanted to, to be sure of avoiding Hristo on the entry to corners, although he was making marginally quicker exits. I think Tim discovered this problem the hard way. I decided that I had to pass Hristo if only to wind him up and get him to speed up! so I stuck it down the inside at T1 and held a tight line. I hoped that the extra grunt of the Brab would pull us away a little, but al and Tim were sticking with us and H was using the slipstream to launch his own passing moves. We swapped positions a couple of times over the next few laps and failed to drag a gap back to the 3rd place car. Somewhere Tim lost touch, but Al was lurking!! Then Hristo dropped a wheel onto the grass at T2 and speared off into the boondocks ..scaring the crap out of me as I was close behind him!! I think that Al and I both had the same thought..”now’s our chance to get away” and I pushed hard with Al in close company for the next few laps. I’m not sure what happened but I suddenly had a couple of seconds lead over Al and was able to break the tow and ease away. It was about then that I realised I did not have enough fuel to finish the race!!! So I spent the next 20 laps short shifting and trying to keep things smoooooth. Hristo recovered and was closing but I knew I was running a steady 1:05 pace and he must be pushing quite hard, so I waited as long as I dared before turning up the wick again and dipping into the 1:04’s to try and keep him behind. Then he had his second “incident” and I was clear of any hassle all the way to the flag actually finishing with a couple of laps worth of fuel to spare and a much enjoyed win. The early laps were great racing with about 6 cars in close company, all looking for a chance to pounce. Sorry that a few of you suffered disco’s or freezes with 4 laps to go..maybe we need some research into why this is happening more frequently this season? as it does not seem to be circuit related…or does it? Grats to Hristo on winning the Championship for HER…looks like it might be a WAZA 1-2 ( subject to moderation of course ) and thanks to all drivers for a great series of races. Lets do it again next season. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: bernie on March 23, 2011, 05:04:54 PM +0000 Nice one Clive , though you say you didn't have enough gas you sure made up for it in the report :D
BTW How do you know how much fuel you have left ? Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 23, 2011, 05:11:29 PM +0000 Well obviously I'd be in favour of declaring the race pre-freeze & I'd wager that Fulvio & H might agree ;) Although Dave had already crashed - he also discoed at the same time as us so we lost 4 drivers simultaneously... Like you Goran I'd dearly love to know why these freezes keep happening because it's seriously affecting my motivation for online GPL at the moment. Yes, I agree. We've had a lot more freezes in the last 2-3 seasons than in the past, even on tracks which used to be perfectly OK to race on. Personally it cost me a at least one championship and that's really frustrating. As for which results to keep, pre or post 40 laps, I'm not sure how you want to decide about it, Goran. You want all of us who participated to vote about it? Of course because it favours me, I'm supporting the pre-40 laps result, but unless you hear from everyone, I don't see how you can decide on it. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 23, 2011, 05:18:27 PM +0000 Nice one Clive , though you say you didn't have enough gas you sure made up for it in the report :D BTW How do you know how much fuel you have left ? Haha, I was just about to ask the same after reading Evil's report! ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: kinghiro on March 23, 2011, 06:08:07 PM +0000 Had a nice race. had 24 hours + without sleep so my consentration was somewhat sloppy and it cost me almost 10 secs in small mistakes.
Usual result for me,(meaning drop a bit behind qual position then end my race there anyway cause of race dropouts) if we keep the pre freeze results wich I support. battling was tight in front of me and I kept a bit away from it unless one of them was falling behind. Fulvio managed to pass me while I tried to both keep safe distanse and keep fulvio off. Dave passed me into turn one vary early in the race ,but I braked early because tim was going sideways in front. didn t think anyone would pass me then..wasn t that a bit ungentlemanlike dave? ;) anyways thx for a great season. I ll get a third in the champuionship and thats more than I hoped for. :) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: EvilClive on March 23, 2011, 08:14:41 PM +0000 Nice one Clive , though you say you didn't have enough gas you sure made up for it in the report :D BTW How do you know how much fuel you have left ? Haha, I was just about to ask the same after reading Evil's report! ;D Something I have discovered only recently with the newer version of Prib. At the bottom right of the screen ( at least it is on my monitor) ii shows the amount of fuel remaining. Let us assume that it is a 45 lap race. The first 5 laps are frantic and your concentration is fully upon the cars around you. At the 40 laps to go point you are in clear air and can spare the half a second to glance at the fuel left in the tank as you cross the S/F line. Check the fuel level maybe 2 laps later, and if you have more than 20x what has been used then you are OK. I discovered that I was probably going to be approx 1-2 laps short, probably because I had been using max revs in the early battle. By short shifting and trying to carry more speed through the corners I made up the difference I needed and fortunately, because I had a healthy lead I was able to back off in the later laps and come home with some spare fuel. At the time that Hristo was closing in I had calculated that I had just enough to reach the end of the race but if I started pushing hard to stay ahead of Hristo I was in danger of not finishing, so I had to try and concentrate on ultra smooth driving to maintain the pace. simples ;D Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 23, 2011, 08:34:51 PM +0000 Nice addition to Pribluda then, might convince me to use it again just to benefit from that.
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: G Jonsson on March 23, 2011, 11:30:32 PM +0000 Because there were not that much interest in cutting the race short and because it should not have effected the championship standings and because of the rather massive extra work it would have been I decided to post the result from the whole 44 lap race.
Göran Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Hristo Itchov on March 24, 2011, 02:03:53 AM +0000 Grats on 2nd in the standings, Evil! ;D Total Hiki-Waza domination, SHE will be pleased! ;)
Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: FullMetalGasket on March 24, 2011, 11:04:41 AM +0000 Yeah, Pribs had the fuel thing for a while now - very handy for figuring out race fuel loads and staying on top of your consumption in-race.
Although I don't think the Eagle ever needs more than 10 laps worth personally ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Nigel Smith on March 24, 2011, 12:21:39 PM +0000 Good end of season blast there for lots of you. I had the usual start from pitlane as I pushed for a better qually time and missed the start!
Don't know if it has any bearing on the server prob's, but I tried several times to join with the Lotus -as agreed with bernie- but when I clicked the green button to go on track GPL went to small screen in the corner. This happened 3 times and out of frustration I chose the Brab, with no problems. After playing catch-up and playing with the hay bales I realised something wasn't right with the handling and got caught on lap 22-dismal:( Tried to keep up with evil for a lap then lost it big time in front of someone going into t3. After that it was just keep going to the finish. Enjoyed the season but this was a bit of an anti-climax for me- bring on S21. Well done podium and hard luck to all who disco'ed PS Up the WAZA's. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: EvilClive on March 24, 2011, 12:53:28 PM +0000 Well done Nigel, She has been watching your progress and is pleased with your points contribution to the Hiki Waza cause.
Of course, next season SHE will expect more, because all of our success is belong to her. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Dave Randall on March 25, 2011, 12:26:57 AM +0000 You mean Dave that you had a screen freeze after you had retired the race? When you were watching, from what position were you watching? Someone`s cockpit or? Was if from the cockpit of one of the drivers that had screen freezes or? I am quite puzzled about the screen freeze fenomen that is why I ask. Göran Yes Goran, I did have a freeze while spectating. I was in Hristo's cockpit I think when it happened to watch him try to close on his team mate, although I did sometimes jump in with Clive to see what lap times he was putting in compared with H. But I'm fairly sure I was riding with H when it froze. Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: Dave Randall on March 25, 2011, 12:38:47 AM +0000 Dave passed me into turn one vary early in the race ,but I braked early because tim was going sideways in front. didn t think anyone would pass me then..wasn t that a bit ungentlemanlike dave? ;) It was a bit wasn't it, felt guilty for a while but soon got over it! ;D After all, I had to take evasive action and it might have been risky to anyone behind if I lifted! ;) Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: EvilClive on March 25, 2011, 08:26:28 AM +0000 Until now I had always thought that the new button on my dashboard with a "snowflake" symbol was something the Hiki Waza boffins had fitted to my car to give air conditioning during hot races.
"How very considerate of them to consider driver comfort in a hot fundoshi" I thought. When I pressed it during the last few laps of the Effex race I was disappointed to find that it did nothing for the temperature in my cockpit, but it seems to have had a very different form of freezing effect which I had not expected...................... ::) :whistling: :shifty: Title: Re: UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Historic Trophy (66) - Efexx - Mar 22 Post by: kinghiro on March 25, 2011, 09:02:33 AM +0000 can the spectating here and there mess something maybe? just blindshooting
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